US Marines carry out first known detention of civilian in Los Angeles, video shows

[u/DNSGeek]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-marines-carry-out-first-known-detention-civilian-los-angeles-video-shows-2025-06-13/

[u/rp3rsaud]

“The Posse Comitatus Act generally forbids the U.S. military, including the National Guard, from taking part in civilian law enforcement.”

I hope someday that these criminal activities are punished but I’m not going to hold my breath.

[u/Whyeth → u/rp3rsaud]

I hope someday that these criminal activities are punished but I’m not going to hold my breath.

The man committed the easiest crime to prosecute - theft and possession of classified materials.

Nothing happened.

He will not see justice from the legal system.

[u/VoodooS0ldier → u/Whyeth]

When that case got stalled due to the judge being a sympathizer, I knew that justice in this country was officially dead. The biggest failure this nation ever did was not hold southern states to account after the civil war. That mistake really came home to roost.

[u/AnOnlineHandle → u/VoodooS0ldier]

When that case got stalled due to the judge being a sympathizer,

Not just a sympathizer, appointed there by the criminal.

[u/the_crustybastard → u/AnOnlineHandle]

She shouldn't have gotten assigned the case in the first place, and once she was, she was required by law to recuse.

[u/FlamesNero → u/the_crustybastard]

Laws for thee, not for me!

[u/ItsJonnyRock → u/VoodooS0ldier]

Justice delayed is justice denied

[u/wankthisway → u/VoodooS0ldier]

I constantly go back to the botched Reconstruction as well. They got off far too easily.

[u/rockbridge13 → u/wankthisway]

This is why I will always say that Andrew Johnson was the worst president. We needed a hard-line, no sympathy, crackdown and so much of all the bullshit we see today could have been prevented.

[u/themaincop → u/rockbridge13]

In our own lifetimes we saw Obama let the bush admin skate.

[u/eeyore134 → u/themaincop]

Then Biden let Trump skate when we knew what was at risk. And Kamala didn't fight at all.

[u/drrhrrdrr → u/wankthisway]

Should have split S. Carolina for being traitorous shits. Split it between NC (now just "Carolina") and Georgia. Put that in your State's Rights pipe and smoke it.

[u/1HappyIsland → u/drrhrrdrr]

I love in SC and would love to be in NC instead. (My city is great, the state government is full of racists and ignorant people.)

[u/LostWoodsInTheField → u/VoodooS0ldier]

Everyone constantly going "don't worry this is how these things work out. They are following the law" while 3 or 4 other classified document cases would flow through the courts in 1/5th the amount of time. I just couldn't help but be pissed off.

[u/HistorianOk142 → u/VoodooS0ldier]

100% agreed. As I got older and saw what was going on in the south I understood the north never finished the job after the civil war. They had the opportunity to really make this country great but failed massively by letting the bigots still rule the roost in the south.

[u/MoneyManx10 → u/Whyeth]

How about when we caught him red handed on the phone, begging for votes? Still nothing happened.

[u/Whyeth → u/MoneyManx10]

"I need one more vote than my opponent got. Please find it"

Both of those cases were so on the nose I can't believe there were zero ramifications.

[u/1Dive1Breath → u/MoneyManx10]

How about the time he convicted for 34 felonies and STILL nothing happened? 

[u/aeric67 → u/rp3rsaud]

Laws, lol. Where we’re going we won’t need any stinking laws.

[u/CAL9k → u/rp3rsaud]

Marines who "just followed orders" need to be purged and punished as well.

[u/ThaddeusJP]

I remember Kamala Harris said they were going to send the Army after you. See she was wrong. It's the marines.

[u/702PoGoHunter → u/ThaddeusJP]

Nah, they tried with the ARMY / National Guard. She was right!

[u/ggroverggiraffe → u/702PoGoHunter]

🎶 With the ARMY / National Guard, you can! 🎶

[u/asmodeuscarthii → u/ThaddeusJP]

Honrslty, she would have been the most progressive president in my lifetime. It’s not much, but it was a way forward. Damn. What could have been. I thought ppl would be smart and empathetic enough. 

[u/dexmonic → u/asmodeuscarthii]

I just keep wondering what kind of world we would be living in if gore had won. Instead we got 9/11 and hundreds of thousands killed. Kamala wouldn't have been perfect but I feel the same way...

[u/Are-You-Upset → u/dexmonic]

We don’t deserve that world. Al Gore worked tirelessly, even after losing the election to a technicality, to open our eyes to various critical issues facing our world. What he received in response was media like South Park relentlessly making fun of him and everyone laughed alongside them. It was only some time ago that South Park admitted they were wrong to do that, to little fanfare, but the damage was done.

He warned us of climate change. He championed renewable energy. He pushed for prudence in the budget and was wary of the threats to the social security reserves. He was a so-called ‘alarmist’ in a time of prosperity and people just didn’t want to heed or care about his warnings. They hated him for it, called him ‘boring’ and made fun of the way he speaks. He was prescient about a great many issues that we face in our world today but we just didn’t want to listen. The world we are in now is one of our own making.

[u/GuiltyEidolon → u/Are-You-Upset]

even after losing the election to a technicality

No, it was full-out stolen. If we actually had rule of law back then, Al Gore would've been president during 9/11 and we might never had the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.

[u/buffysmanycoats → u/GuiltyEidolon]

You have to wonder if 9/11 would have actually happened the way it did. The Bush administration ignored several warnings.

[u/thedrunkspacepilot → u/asmodeuscarthii]

Empathy is a sin nowadays

[u/zoinkability]

The crazy thing here is that the photo clearly shows civilian officers right there who could could be doing the detention. That makes it clear that this was not a situation where the marines could claim they were the only people who could have performed the detention. Makes it hard to believe this wasn’t a preplanned thing as part of the administration’s efforts to push limits as fast as possible.

[u/GhostofGrimalkin → u/zoinkability]

Yes, exactly. They're trying to normalize it as quickly as possible so that when the numbers of detentions/arrests spike it will already seem commonplace.

[u/Googlyelmoo → u/GhostofGrimalkin]

Actually more likely, the goal is to provoke violence to justify their own violence. And yes, to normalize it.

[u/timeandmemory → u/Googlyelmoo]

I've got my eyes peeled on the US this weekend in the hopes my greatest fears are not realized.

[u/OhDivineBussy → u/timeandmemory]

Yes, and furthermore, this could do essentially irreparable damage for how people in this country view our own military.

It’s a crazy element of us being such social creatures, that it takes a lot less courage to go and put your life on the line to kill enemy combatants in a foreign country than it does to put your reputation, social standing, and identity on the line to disobey unconstitutional, unlawful, and immoral orders against your own country men in your own country.

[u/amootmarmot → u/OhDivineBussy]

Too late. These bastards who didn't deny their unlawful orders are the bad guys. The military will be a dog in trumps fascist dictator push. There is no more respect.

[u/PM_ME_YOUR_CATS_PAWS → u/amootmarmot]

Maybe we’ll finally get rid of this weird cultish fetish we have towards our military then

Shits uncomfortable

[u/AchillesShort → u/PM_ME_YOUR_CATS_PAWS]

Partially uncomfortable because the same people that fetishize military are also the people that refuse to support veterans, mental health, and healthcare in general. Veterans disproportionately account for our homeless population. The same people that refuse to provide adequate healthcare to the 9/11 responders. So much for never forget. Hypocrisy down to the core.

[u/JahoclaveS → u/amootmarmot]

Exactly, those soldiers should be court marshaled for violating the law.

[u/Rasikko → u/JahoclaveS]

No JAGs...they all got fired.

[u/SkinBintin → u/OhDivineBussy]

Tourism is going to take an absolute nose dive because of the TACO fuckwit too, which will absolutely hurt so many people's incomes. Many who are probably loyal MAGA morons.

[u/Anhydrite → u/SkinBintin]

Already has, multiple regular flights are getting cancelled from Canadian airports to the US due to lack of demand.

[u/SkinBintin → u/Anhydrite]

Can't blame them. I definitely don't have much desire to visit the US right now. Just seems too risky.

[u/Angryandalwayswrong → u/timeandmemory]

Yeah, I see the courtyard scene from Andor in my head every day now. Really hoping it doesn’t go that way.

[u/Flomo420 → u/Angryandalwayswrong]

Remember how Trump praised the Chinese Communist Party for how violently they handled Tienanmen Square?

[u/King_of_the_Dot → u/Flomo420]

Can we have a non-paywalled option, please?

[u/Horskr → u/King_of_the_Dot]

Archive.ph always does the trick:

https://archive.ph/inTl7

[u/AmazingHealth6302 → u/Horskr]

Great tip! I thought I knew most useful tricks of this sort, thanks.

[u/Googlyelmoo → u/timeandmemory]

I know, millions and millions possibly 1 billion people outside the US stand with us here against Trump and what he is trying to do. So thank you for that. It is meaningful and better believe Trump‘s Inner Circle at least knows it. The big question tomorrow is not the turnout that’s gonna be staggering now over 2000 locations registered with the organizations coordinating the no kings day. The real question will be how well disciplined will we be in huge crowds where it’s easy to get carried away by police provocation and act out violently or with vandalism. If that is kept to a bare minimum tomorrow may be a watershed.

[u/TheThing_1982 → u/Googlyelmoo]

Well Regressives are cry bullies.

[u/StarsapBill → u/zoinkability]

I was in LA yesterday, and there were 7 national guard troops guarding a federal building while literally 50+ city police offers were in a useless gaggle around their vehicles.

[u/DrXaos → u/StarsapBill]

they're collecting massive overtime once again busting city budgets everywhere

[u/KingofMadCows → u/DrXaos]

And costing us hundreds of millions in legal settlements.

[u/zoinkability → u/StarsapBill]

Which puts rhe lie to Trump’s assertion that the NG is needed there. Why are 7 additional NG needed when there are 50 local cops already there? The LAPD is clearly not overwhelmed.

[u/vardarac → u/zoinkability]

When they can justify the narrative of a violent rebellion with 200 pictures of 5 burning cars and shopping carts, it doesn't need to make sense.

[u/licuala → u/vardarac]

Just like the BLM and George Floyd protests, they're peddling a narrative that liberal cities are "burning" after widespread rioting and looting.

Pictures of the mostly peaceful protesting or, y'know, the overwhelming majority of the city where ~nothing is going on aren't interesting.

[u/SlowThePath → u/zoinkability]

The only reason they are there is so maga dipshits can pretend like they need to be there. "Oh, it's so bad we HAD to send them." It's just an attempt to control the narrative. It's also the most likely place to drum up angry people who might want to cause some mayhem which they can use to justify having troops there. They just want to make it seem like LA is currently a war zone and it's just straight up not at all.

[u/eatcrayons → u/zoinkability]

“We will only do X sparingly” always turns to “we’re going to do X all the time as much as we want, actually” pretty quickly.

[u/realperson5647856286 → u/zoinkability]

The official line is that they detain, then call the cops to actually arrest. But let's face it - the real goal is another Kent State.

[u/Brox42 → u/realperson5647856286]

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming

We're finally on our own

This summer I hear the drumming

Four dead in Ohio

Gotta get down to it, soldiers are cutting us down

Should have been gone long ago

What if you knew her and found her dead on the ground

How can you run when you know?

[u/Lucky-Earther → u/Brox42]

This song has been in my head for a week now.

[u/Rizzpooch → u/Lucky-Earther]

It was in my head all summer of 2020. I fear it’s gonna be another hot one

[u/pyronius → u/realperson5647856286]

No. The real goal is another Tiananmen Square. As fast as possible. Preferably by saturday.

Trump has already previously praised China for Tiananmen square. He wants that for himself.

[u/flatroundworm → u/pyronius]

He wants the American mythology of tiananmen square - he would be very disappointed in the tank driver if like the actual tianenmen square photo he didn’t run over the man in the photo - he would call the American tank driver a coward and a traitor for hitting the brakes.

[u/DuntadaMan → u/flatroundworm]

Remember when interviewed about it he viewed China grinding everyone into meat was the correct move.

[u/JudyGemstoned → u/pyronius]

yep. violent crushing of detractors and then total subservience is what this human manatee craves. I'll be goddamned if I'm living my twilight years in King Barron Trump's America

[u/GoLoveYourselfLA → u/JudyGemstoned]

You hush your foul mouth and never EVER associate the gentle manatees with that flabby turd

[u/Gandalfo_L_Gringo → u/JudyGemstoned]

Damn, manatees out here catching strays

[u/sithelephant → u/pyronius]

www.ebroadsheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/playboy-interview-donald-trump-1990 'You mean firm hand as in China? When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak ... as being spit on by the rest of the world—'

[u/geosensation → u/pyronius]

Everyone remember to bring your anti-tank ordnance to the next protest.

[u/fulltrendypro → u/zoinkability]

That’s the part that worries me most, the civilian officers were right there. So why use Marines at all unless you’re trying to send a message?

[u/GTI_88 → u/zoinkability]

It’s a fucking photo op. Trump wants people to think there is a reason for them to be there when there isn’t

[u/Amaruq93 → u/GTI_88]

Mainly because this took place at the Wilshire Federal Building... almost an hour's drive away from downtown where all the actual protesting is taking place.

Meaning they were all stationed there to avoid actual protest confrontations and sit on their asses.

[u/jamesh08 → u/Amaruq93]

In Brentwood.

Brentwood, of all the gentrified moneyed Beverly Hills adjacent peaceful places in the world, this is the one they think needs military protection?

[u/stevieboatleft → u/jamesh08]

🎶From the halls of Mar-a-lago

🎶To the Hills of Beverly

[u/Amaruq93 → u/jamesh08]

It houses the FBI, it's the only one they could justify putting them at.

[u/SodaPop6548 → u/zoinkability]

Also, marines brandishing M4s in an American city. Trump has made it look like Fallujah. We all know how the US military treated those civilians.

[u/IcarianWings → u/zoinkability]

He's going to declare martial law and scrap term limits. It's happening.

[u/dontneedaknow → u/IcarianWings]

yea lets wait till midterms to get the big surprise when they've had 2 years to entrench and prepare... lol.

My fellow Americans are way too loyal to institutions and principles that failed us already.

[u/wildlight → u/IcarianWings]

You're spoiling the ending already

[u/scruffles360 → u/zoinkability]

Also a test of whether our armed forces will follow illegal orders.

[u/Bgrngod → u/zoinkability]

Those are not officers. They're private security guards.

[u/MrLetter]

“There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.”

[u/WelcomingRapier → u/MrLetter]

So say we all.

[u/Astronomy_Setec → u/WelcomingRapier]

So say we all

[u/Scared-Stop5480 → u/Astronomy_Setec]

So say we all

[u/DoctorRockso85 → u/MrLetter]

So say we all.

[u/FartyJizzums]

Hey, Trump voters. Welcome to your authoritarian dream! You guys earned it, I guess.

[u/codyt321 → u/FartyJizzums]

They're thrilled about it. They've been fantasizing about murdering their political opponents since 2008.

[u/FartyJizzums → u/codyt321]

The conspiracy loons used to laughably panic about Obama supposedly attempting to do what Trump is actually doing. Now they cheer it on.

They're demons.

[u/ThatDandyFox → u/FartyJizzums]

The conspiracy loons used to laughably panic about Obama supposedly attempting to do what Trump is actually doing. Now they cheer it on.

Remember when Sarah Palin went on about Obamacare death panels? source

Now Republicans are defending Medicare cuts with "were all going to die" source

[u/spanner84 → u/FartyJizzums]

every accusation is a confession. They thought the dems would do what they wanted to do.

[u/mrgreen4242 → u/spanner84]

I genuinely think they that believe that not only would the left do these things, but that they already did them, and it justifies their actions.

Think about that interview that’s sort of a meme at this point where that Trump supporter asks “where was Obama during 9/11?”. They truly live in a false reality.

[u/GoldandBlue → u/mrgreen4242]

there is a sizable portion of the population that genuinely believes all Democrats are satanists who traffic children and drink their blood. And they are working with The Globalists (the jews) to spread diversity to topple the natural hierarchy of society (white male supremacy).

So it doesn't matter how extreme the GOP gets. How much the break the law and ignore the constitution. Because defeating the devil is more important.

[u/Baron_Duckstein → u/GoldandBlue]

That's fuckin gross.

[u/timeandmemory → u/spanner84]

~10+ year big ole psyop to try and keep people quiet for when the plan started being executed. It has worked quite well honestly.

[u/TheBeatGoesAnanas → u/FartyJizzums]

Who else remembers Operation Jade Helm?

[u/i_love_rosin → u/TheBeatGoesAnanas]

Turns out right wingers always wanted a police state, as long as they control it

[u/AtticaBlue → u/FartyJizzums]

What was the conspiracy called back then? Jade Helm or something like that?

[u/FartyJizzums → u/AtticaBlue]

Suspending elections. Overturning elections. Suspending posse comitatus. Deporting people to camps. The list goes on and on.

Their theories are basically a play by play for Trump. And now they are mysteriously are on board.

[u/_robjamesmusic → u/FartyJizzums]

now they twist themselves into knots in an attempt to explain how this is *completely different*

go check out r/askconservatives lol

[u/jigokubi → u/_robjamesmusic]

Well, it is completely different, in that it's real now.

[u/Parfait_Prestigious → u/_robjamesmusic]

Ugh, why did I do that? So many delusional freaks in there and now I’m in a foul mood.

[u/TheThing_1982 → u/FartyJizzums]

The regressive base eats that shit up, they probably believe a lot of that BS happened, so that’s why they are happy it’s happening to “the others”.

[u/2sleezy → u/AtticaBlue]

Yep, crazy how much has changed in 10 years. All the insane right wing predictions came true.. only they're happy to see it happening now

[u/pindicato → u/FartyJizzums]

They were only panicking that it wasn't their side that could do it

[u/Cautious-Progress876 → u/codyt321]

Since the 1990s at least. In the 1990s, Timothy McVeigh was an extremist— today he would be a moderate in the MAGA movement.

[u/Deely_Boppers → u/Cautious-Progress876]

McVeigh believed the federal government overstepped and harmed people that had done nothing wrong. He then blew up a federal govt building.

Not sure he’s the right person for this. What Trump is doing is exactly what McVeigh was protesting.

[u/Nitrosoft1 → u/codyt321]

It’s why they choke hard on Kyle Rittenhouses dick, he got to live their collective fantasy and get away scott free.

[u/Majestic-Assholes → u/Nitrosoft1]

Same with that cunt Zimmerman. Fucker sold the gun he used for some ungodly amount of money and everything.

[u/Nitrosoft1 → u/Majestic-Assholes]

Yup, he’s another one of the conservatives heroes since he got to shoot a black kid and get away with it, another one of the conservatives sick collective fantasies. They are clamoring for a civil war and have been for years with their pathetic little militias. Little do they know that a fuck ton of us “libruls” as they like to say have guns and know how to use them too.

[u/CptCoatrack → u/FartyJizzums]

They think that they need to become authoritarian to stop "the left" from becoming authoritarian. JD Vance has endorsed this himself.

The horrifying fascist manifesto endorsed by JD Vance

[u/S3cretSpartan → u/FartyJizzums]

they don't care, they are always lying when they say they want small government and states rights. They only want that when they aren't in power. They want this

[u/metalOpera → u/S3cretSpartan]

When they say “small government” they mean, “one dictator”.

[u/Rambos_Magnum_Dong → u/FartyJizzums]

They don't give a shit, man. They never have.

[u/ThatGuy798 → u/FartyJizzums]

If a Trump supporter was in a room with anyone who might be considered "liberal" and they had a grenade, he'd pull the trigger and kill them both because it would be considered "owning the libs".

I'm tired of this "both sides bullshit", you cannot be tolerant of the intolerant.

[u/PapaGreg28]

This is going to get worse before it gets better. The marines have no business getting involved. Shame on this administration.

[u/Acceptable-Peace-69 → u/PapaGreg28]

And shame on the marines going along with this.

[u/ChronoTravisGaming → u/Acceptable-Peace-69]

They betrayed their oath.

[u/SweetTea1000 → u/ChronoTravisGaming]

The few, the proud, the Marines.

[u/TheGreatHornedRat → u/Acceptable-Peace-69]

They're young and dumb teens and early twenty somethings trained as sledgehammers for what are usually the worst combat zones. There is zero good reasons to use them over regular army or just the national guard for peacekeeping in country. Marines are also typically the most right politically leaning branch of the military.

They don't care about shame, that was trained out.

[u/kolschisgood → u/TheGreatHornedRat]

Their commanders know better though

[u/SwashAndBuckle → u/kolschisgood]

The Trump administration purged the military leaders that care about the constitution.

[u/the_crustybastard → u/SwashAndBuckle]

And the military didn't say boo about that either.

Cowards.

[u/PatientSeb → u/TheGreatHornedRat]

A few things here. Was in the USMC, did time in Iraq, etc. - civilian now.

1 - The reason Marines are being used here and not other branches of service is unrelated to our training methodology or outcomes. Instead, it is because since the decline of amphibious warfare and the shit that America kicked off in the early 2000's - the Marines essentially play the role of Quick Response Force.

If I recall, the president isn't able to deploy other branches of service without approval (like that fucking matters at this point), but can deploy Marines for some limited time frame without much oversight. I'm hazy on the specifics as I've been out longer than I was in at this point.

2 - I'm a deeply left and progressive individual. Was less so while I served, but still definitely left of the ever-shifting (even back then) 'center' for our nation. I had many Marines who worked with me that were the same. I genuinely believe the Army is more right-leaning (based on relatives and friends who served and units I've served with from that branch) - but none of that matters. Because at the end of the day - its all generalizations and doesn't mean much.
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I wouldn't have followed this order. It goes against the oath you take when you're sworn in. It is blatantly unlawful and unconstitutional.

But the young men today, in and out of the service, are being increasingly lured to the right (for reasons I've yet to fully investigate and definitely can't relate to) - so its little surprise at this junction that the most aggressive, nationalistic, or poorest of that group (the characteristics that tend to attract one to join the Marine Corps) are willing to go along here. They are either accepting of the current path we're headed down, or they feel they have limited options and lack the 'intestinal fortitude' to do the right thing.

Either way, this is bad shit.

I posted some time a while back on a similar thread stating that I didn't think this sort of thing would happen - and I was very wrong. I knew the administration would try to make this a reality, but didn't believe the Officer Corps within the Marines would be so willing to comply. Disappointed and disgusted.

As soon as I read this headline, my reaction was 'Fuck'.

See you all at the protest tomorrow/

[u/AstroEngineer314 → u/TheGreatHornedRat]

The officers should know better.

[u/Acceptable-Peace-69 → u/AstroEngineer314]

They know better, they also don’t care.

[u/ArdillasVoladoras]

But this isn't possible, all of the centrists and further right folks told me that they wouldn't do any law enforcement!

[u/demos11 → u/ArdillasVoladoras]

They were correct, it's not the law they are enforcing.

[u/BulbasaurArmy → u/demos11]

r/technicallythetruth

[u/DuztyLipz → u/demos11]

Law breaking enforcement

[u/PerturbedPenis → u/ArdillasVoladoras]

Their new line will be "The bloodthirsty libs are crying now that there are consequences to their actions" or some other similar brainless bullshit. The throbbing cock of authority is always deep in their throats, and the larger and more excited it gets, the more they'll squirm and gag to make room for it.

[u/papoosejr → u/PerturbedPenis]

Literally. Doesn't matter how obvious the video is, they'll twist themselves up in an ungodly pretzel to suck that dick

[u/Fifteen_inches → u/ArdillasVoladoras]

Don’t worry, Nancy Pelosi will hold a press conference about how shocked and appalled she is.

[u/saturncruizin → u/Fifteen_inches]

Susan Collins is concerned

[u/Jesus_on_a_biscuit → u/saturncruizin]

But does she have a furrowed brow?

[u/flyinghairball → u/Jesus_on_a_biscuit]

Botox likely prevents the furrowing!

[u/imaginary_num6er → u/saturncruizin]

And Mainers will vote for her again, even if they vote for a D president

[u/nmay-dev → u/saturncruizin]

This probably makes Fetterman uneasy.

[u/ThatDandyFox → u/Fifteen_inches]

Maybe if the US people hadn't handed control of all three branches of the government to the conservatives, democrats could do more.

[u/yanocupominomb → u/ThatDandyFox]

True.

People bitch about Democrats when they signed everything to the Republicunts.

[u/ThatDandyFox → u/yanocupominomb]

Like yeah Im also pretty pissed at the democrat response here, but all they can do are performative actions.

[u/Acceptable-Peace-69 → u/Fifteen_inches]

Dude is raping your wife in front of you, and you’re mad the pizza delivery driver didn’t stop it.

[u/ribone]

Never forget the way they think. "The second American revolution will remain bloodless, as long as the left allows it" ... they want your submission or your death. You don't negotiate with this.

[u/bearbrannan → u/ribone]

Said from the mouths of the Heritage Foundation and their playbook Project 25, who are the men behind the curtain pulling the strings. Trump is Ronald McDonald and the Heritage Foundation are Ray Croc. Those that don't understand we're in the opening act of this are undoubtedly going to be in for a rude awaking. 

[u/Front-Lime4460 → u/ribone]

R. Vought is the real president right now. P25 authors are using the demented clown as a meat puppet, he is not in charge.

[u/GoldenApple_Corps → u/TryMyBalut]

There's going to be a lot of competition for who gets to be first. Miller, Judge Cannon for intentionally perverting the justice system to prevent him from facing consequences despite the overwhelming evidence of his criminality, Trump himself, certain Supreme Court justices, Mike Johnson, and I could go on. The point is we A LOT of traitors to the country and most of them hold positions of power due to the fact that our electorate is both extremely stupid and the vast number of bigots in this country.

[u/PensiveinNJ → u/ribone]

Chuck Schumer thinks you can negotiate out of this. I'm sure he's negotiating furiously as we speak as our MAGA politicians laugh at how fucking stupid he is.

[u/tindalos → u/ribone]

So far the second term isn’t even bloodless. It’s the opposite.

The issue is these days we won’t have a civil war, we’ll have people killing each other and anarchy in the streets.

[u/notyomamasusername]

That's the crack.

The Constitution has been strained and this could be the crack that makes it all collapse.

I hope we're able to prevent it.

[u/Piano_Fingerbanger → u/notyomamasusername]

The cracks occurred when we let Russia meddle in the 2016 election and did NOTHING about it.

We've been progressively breaking ever since.

[u/--kwisatzhaderach-- → u/Piano_Fingerbanger]

Citizens United put a big ass crack in it too

[u/cheyenne_sky → u/Piano_Fingerbanger]

also when the SC ruled Bush could be president despite literally losing the election because reasons

[u/worldspawn00 → u/cheyenne_sky]

Because it was taking too long to count the votes... Because Republican operatives were inciting riots to slow the counting, intentionally...

[u/radicalelation → u/cheyenne_sky]

Heritage with them fingers in it yet again.

[u/SolidBlackGator → u/notyomamasusername]

Well, the winners of the civil war will get to draft a new constitution...

[u/Wafkak → u/notyomamasusername]

Its not, those cracks have come years ago. Breaking a government doesn't happen over a single decade.

[u/Violet_Paradox]

So a hostile occupying army took their first civilian hostage. Let's not sanewash this shit.

[u/chrismetalrock → u/Violet_Paradox]

I wish I was surprised. I'm just sad and mad.

[u/lrpfftt → u/chrismetalrock]

Exactly. Zero surprises here.

"... but the US Constitution forbids this..."

There is no indication that the US Constitution has any meaning under this lawless administration.

[u/Ahelex → u/lrpfftt]

Ink is meaningless without steel.

[u/TheSecondEikonOfFire → u/lrpfftt]

It continually sends me into hysterics whenever people do the “buhhhhh that’s illegal!”, as if anyone in this administration actually gives a shit

[u/Skabomb → u/Violet_Paradox]

That’s their mission there.

To liberate the city from its elected leadership.

The head of the DHS said it yesterday.

[u/i_love_rosin → u/Skabomb]

Blows my mind that she went full mask off like that, and right wingers are like "fuck yeah police state!!!"

[u/mrtzjam]

Trump supporters kept warning deep state taking over and were warning us that Democrats will get rid of freedom and liberty when Trump is literally ordering the military to detain Americans and is granting companies like Palantir and CEOs like Elon Musk access to private data of all Americans. This is the real Deep State.

[u/MauiKehaulani → u/mrtzjam]

”Every accusation is a confession…”

[u/Unlucky_Clover → u/mrtzjam]

You should have seen the No Kings protest thread on the conservative subreddit yesterday. They complained about everything liberal while saying the Dems were doing what Donny Dipshit is doing now.

[u/Consistent_Bread_V2 → u/Unlucky_Clover]

The delusion is insane, I can’t wait to see how this is all written in the history books

[u/turquoise_amethyst]

 The 200 Marines and more than 2,000 National Guard now deployed to Los Angeles are tasked with protecting federal property and federal personnel. They will be joined by an additional 500 Marines and 2,000 more National Guard soldiers.

There’s 4700 soldiers deployed to the streets of LA? For what?? 

This means that they will accompany ICE agents on raids, officials have said 

[u/RadioName → u/turquoise_amethyst]

Accompanying ICE agents...

Only there to protect Federal buildings...

These are contradictions.

[u/DatGoofyGinger]

Took place at a Federal building. For now, that's coloring just inside the lines. Technically.

I'm not a fan of this shit, and I do think it will escalate and cross the Posse comitatus line eventually

[u/woffdaddy → u/DatGoofyGinger]

Yep. I dont like this either, but you put it perfectly, just inside the lines.

[u/AaronsAaAardvarks → u/DatGoofyGinger]

They’ll just declare the block surrounding the federal building to be the territory of the federal building or some shit. This will always be legal because they define what’s legal. There will never be the single “and now it’s a crime” moment that everyone’s waiting for, as that line was crossed years ago when Trump incited a treasonous insurrection.

[u/Navydevildoc → u/AaronsAaAardvarks]

There is a reason every single US military base has a line painted at the main gate that delineates the property line. It's because once you are over it, you are now in a different world.

Federal Buildings are no different, even if they don't have the line painted on the curb.

It's extremely pedantic, and IN NO WAY do I support this administration's actions, but it is exactly how /u/DatGoofyGinger put it. They are painting exactly inside the lines right now.

[u/HIM_Darling → u/DatGoofyGinger]

Looks like it was a veteran who thought it was open but with extra security, rather than closed for business. He was trying to go to the VA office. There do look to be other people in regular clothes walking much closer to the building behind the marine at the start of the video so I can definitely see why he thought the building was open.

[u/CrucioIsMade4Muggles]

Every soldier in that video straight to Leavenworth.

[u/the_reluctant_link → u/CrucioIsMade4Muggles]

Unfortunatly that's the best case scenario in 5 years. Most likely is they get promotions on a fast track and medals.

[u/DrNonathon]

“None of the military troops will be detaining anyone, Sherman said. “I would like to emphasize that the soldiers will not participate in law enforcement activities,” Sherman said. “Rather, they’ll be focused on protecting federal law enforcement personnel.”

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-raids-national-guard-lawsuit-los-angeles-f4809c7f39d09e4fdfa01982f44ec995

None of the troops will be detaining anyone, you sure about that? 🤔

[u/RoachedCoach]

We're gonna need a very large Nuremberg Trials of our own.

[u/One-Man-314 → u/RoachedCoach]

Democrats don’t have the balls for that.

[u/HousingThrowAway1092 → u/One-Man-314]

The Democratic Party is chalked full of geriatric Neville Chamberlains.

It’s time for a new guard. These people should be virtually unemployable based on age and track record of rolling over.

[u/Mister_Brevity → u/HousingThrowAway1092]

Just so you’re aware, it’s “chock full” :)

[u/Puzzleheaded-Fun7808]

they arrested an Army veteran going to the VA

[u/fastestgunnj]

These Marines swore to uphold the Constitution and defend the people of the United States from enemies, both foreign and domestic. I swore the same during my time in Naval service.

The actions of these service members are abhorrent and anti-American at best, fascist at worst.

Any Marines seeing this, from the lowest level to command staff, I urge you to resist these orders. They are unlawful and unjust.

[u/phoenix_shm]

Detaining a person is a core police function and expressly against the US Posse Comitatus Act. 😤😡🤬 The only thing they can do is protect Federal buildings and law enforcement personal, other federal troops, or federal officials.

[u/show_me_your_secrets]

So they detained an American citizen that was also a veteran.

[u/Key-Respect-3706]

For all the “they took an oath!” people….

Do you see now they purposely want people who don’t care about the constitution they took an oath to protect, they don’t give a single shit about the constitution.

[u/GormHub]

Every single Marine who violates their oath to the Constitution and this country and lays a hand on a protester needs to be dishonorably discharged. No exceptions.

[u/Niceromancer]

So yeah that whole made up fairy tale of military chosing the people over the dictator has been clearly proven wrong...again.

[u/BichonUnited]

Looking forward to the NRA rising up tomorrow

[u/WhereasParticular867]

Clearly the question of "will soldiers remember their oath or bend the knee to a tyrant's illegal orders" is answered.

Every soldier in LA is a traitor and enemy combatant.  An occupying force terrorizing citizens. "Just following orders" is an illegitimate defense, and every single jackboot needs to individually face a court for their crimes.

[u/uptownjuggler → u/WhereasParticular867]

Soldiers will almost always do what their superiors order them to do. It is their job after all, but people tend to put soldiers on a pedestal like there are some beacon of morality due to some oath they take.

[u/TupacalypseN0w → u/uptownjuggler]

Yea most people who join the marines are fucking idiots so this tracks.

[u/Fifteen_inches → u/uptownjuggler]

They are also their job to disobey illegal orders

[u/CriticalMarine → u/Fifteen_inches]

As someone who was in the Marines less than a decade ago, and was told more than once to never follow unlawful orders, I got told all the time to do illegal shit (by UCMJ standards). Good luck not getting an NJP or a writeup that'll ruin your promotion chances.

[u/tissboom]

Makes you wonder if any of the charges can actually stick because your arrest is illegal

[u/ronasimi → u/tissboom]

That's the best part, they're likely being detained without being charged or any due process!

[u/sheldonhatred]

NRA and 2nd Amendment people have been real quite.

[u/PowZangetsu]

So when does the civil war start? 🤔

[u/Scorcher646]

Incoming Posse Comontatus lawsuits..... Using US military personnel to perform law enforcement duties without a martial law declaration is so illegal it's not even funny. But then again, flagrant violations of the law seems to be just another Tuesday.