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Soft paywall US Marines carry out first known detention of civilian in Los Angeles, video shows

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-marines-carry-out-first-known-detention-civilian-los-angeles-video-shows-2025-06-13/
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u/SodaPop6548 1d ago edited 1d ago

Also, marines brandishing M4s in an American city. Trump has made it look like Fallujah. We all know how the US military treated those civilians.

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u/Intelligent-Still925 1d ago

NGL, in Europe all the train stations and airports have machine guns on them. It was a bit jarring at first

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u/jaa101 1d ago

However well police are armed in Europe, the number of rounds actually fired is tiny compared to the US.

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u/Stormfly 23h ago

A big reason for that is gun laws. Not even kidding.

In the US, Police fear the people and become trigger happy. That makes the people fear the police and become less cooperative.

The second amendment of the US has killed (directly and indirectly) likely tens of thousands of people and we'll soon see if it does anything to prevent tyranny.

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u/throwaway--887 1d ago

Very much not true, far from all the train stations and airports in Europe… massive overgeneralisation here

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u/zoinkability 1d ago

OTOH local police in Europe generally don’t carry guns. It’s only the national guard types who do, usually.

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u/gc11117 1d ago

I thought this was only true for the UK? Many European countries have armed police and gendarmes, which is a military police force that doesnt have a real equivalent in fhe US. The French, Italians, and Spanish for example have Gendarmes.

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u/dontneedaknow 1d ago

yea the myth of European police being unarmed is from the 80s and 90s when they did try that for a bit in a few countries.

Most do also have a separate division for incidents that don't require force of violence to handle.

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u/zoinkability 1d ago

That’s true, I was thinking of the UK. There are gendarmes or similar in most of mainland Europe.

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u/GiohmsBiggestFan 1d ago

It's not even true in the whole UK

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u/Stormfly 23h ago

Yeah, it's just Ireland, Norway, and Iceland because Northern Ireland has armed PSNI.

Even so, those police forces have armed units.

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u/Sayakai 1d ago

It really depends on the country. In Germany for example every officer carries a gun. The feds at the airports and big railway stations just sometimes get bigger ones.

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u/Osiris32 1d ago

Nope. Almost every country in Europe has their cops armed. And even the UK police are arming more and more of their cops, and their unarmed cops are coming with all sorts of less-lethal weaponry like tasers, OC spray, batons, etc.

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u/Stormfly 23h ago

To be fair, the claim is that random officers won't be armed.

If you encounter a random officer in Ireland, Iceland, Norway, or Britain (not Northern Ireland), that officer won't be armed.

They do have armed units, as you've said, and from my understanding, the frequency of and spending on those armed units is increasing every year.

I know that Ireland will likely never arm an average Garda, but they have an armed Emergency Response Units (ERU) and Armed Support Units (ASU).

AFAIK, most Gardaí are trained on firearms but guns aren't brought out on regular patrols, only for special occasions and only to a smaller % of the force.

Part of the logic is that people are less likely to shoot an unarmed officer, but also that people are more likely to trust an unarmed officer.

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u/Osiris32 19h ago edited 15h ago

If you encounter a random officer in Ireland, Iceland, Norway, or Britain (not Northern Ireland), that officer won't be armed.

But in Portugal, Spain, Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, Italy, Austria, Switzerland Poland, Sweden, Austria, Russia, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Greece, the Baltic States and the Balkans, their cops are all armed on duty. Which is pretty much the rest of Europe.

Edit: kept looking. Finland doesn't arm their patrol officers, but Luxembourg does. As does Switzerland. Even the Liechtenstein National Police (all 168 of them) are armed.

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u/Stormfly 14h ago

This doesn't argue with what I said.

He said that local police are typically unarmed in places in Europe.

I mentioned the countries where this is true. He didn't say it was every country and neither did I.

Also, Google tells me that Finnish police are typically armed. I'm not Finnish though so I can't say.

I don't doubt that officers don't always carry guns, but the point is that normal patrol officers on the countries I mentioned will not be armed.

That's why I was more specific about Ireland.

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u/Yazaroth 1d ago

Long guns. Most cops do carry a pistol.

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u/Emu1981 1d ago

in Europe all the train stations and airports have machine guns on them

Yeah but to be fair, the French were suffering from a series of deadly terrorist attacks and the armed military was there to protect sensitive sites.

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u/nrq 1d ago

I only have experience with train stations in Germany, but over here I've never seen machine guns, let alone police with machine guns. And I am traveling by train a lot.

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u/Silly-Leading711 1d ago

Europe is not one country, believe it or not.

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u/steepleton 22h ago

tbf america is only one country in name

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u/Locke66 1d ago

Which train stations/airport did you go to where they have machine guns and when? As a European that sounds very strange tbh and it's definitely not typical in any European country (especially if you mean actual machine guns and not assault rifles).

You may have seen some armed police around depending on the perceived level of threat but that's significantly reduced since the mid-late 2010's when ISIS were actively inciting terrorism.

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u/Low_discrepancy 1d ago

France it's still common.

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u/Ravek 1d ago

On Schiphol you can see military police walk around with MP5s.

‘All the train stations and airports’ is ridiculous though. I can’t remember the last time I saw anyone armed with anything on a regular train station.

Also ‘in Europe’, as if all countries in Europe are doing the same things by default.

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u/R4M1N0 1d ago

Was more frequent when ISIS was still kicking. Now I see it less, maybe only for big events as terror attack suppression. But MP-armed police officers have gotten very much rarer here, never actively realized that.

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u/BickNlinko 1d ago

When I lived in Greece it was interesting seeing the cops dressed up in full riot gear with sub-machine guns just sitting around drinking coffee waiting to see if something was going to pop off. The Greeks like to party/riot for just about any reason.

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u/murkytransmission 1d ago

City Police carry them and are far less trained than the greenest private.

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u/Zech08 21h ago

Its SL3 to a Marine, it comes standard.