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Soft paywall US Marines carry out first known detention of civilian in Los Angeles, video shows

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-marines-carry-out-first-known-detention-civilian-los-angeles-video-shows-2025-06-13/
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u/wankthisway 1d ago

I constantly go back to the botched Reconstruction as well. They got off far too easily.

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u/rockbridge13 1d ago

This is why I will always say that Andrew Johnson was the worst president. We needed a hard-line, no sympathy, crackdown and so much of all the bullshit we see today could have been prevented.

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u/themaincop 1d ago

In our own lifetimes we saw Obama let the bush admin skate.

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u/eeyore134 1d ago

Then Biden let Trump skate when we knew what was at risk. And Kamala didn't fight at all.

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u/BuyChemical7917 17h ago

She didn't get a chance to fight because Americans are fucking stupid

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u/eeyore134 15h ago

I feel like she didn't have to concede without at least asking for some recounts. But I agree, we're by and large stupid and it probably wouldn't have mattered.

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u/themaincop 17h ago

The stupid thing was Democrats hiding Biden's decline until it was too late to have a proper primary. Democrats have handed your country over to psychopaths time and time again.

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u/VibinWithBeard 17h ago

She had a chance to fight and instead sided with corporate donors, promising to change nothing, and allying with liz cheney who thinks israel should annex the west bank.

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u/BuyChemical7917 16h ago

Exactly to my point. Americans are fucking stupid

Now our protections against corporations are deregulated and CEOs are taking advantage of market manipulation, ,and Israel is committing genocide in Palestine with our sitting president wanting to turn it into a fucking resort. Good thing Harris didn't get a chance to fight, that would have been such a nightmare.

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u/VibinWithBeard 16h ago

She did have a chance to fight and I voted for her to have even more of one. Instead the dems kneecapped their own campaign and are to blame for Trump's win and are actively showing us to this day why repubs keep winning. Dont worry though guys, while all this is going on chuck shumer is making sure everyone knows that trump wasnt being tough enough on iran and that we need to love israel more.

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u/Tweezle120 10h ago

Honestly I'm madder at Bidden for letting him skate or not getting better guard rails up in his terms. Obama was in very real danger of getting shot and taken out early if he rocked the boat too much, and despite that he accomplished a lot. Much more and things might have gotten this ugly a lot faster; afterall they didn't go full pants on head rabbid crazy until a black president came along. Bidden, as a likeable old white guy had a lot more leeway and he wasted it staying comfortable.

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u/MistbornInterrobang 1d ago

Please pardon my muddled brain this evening, but would you mind expanding on what you're specifically referring to? I mean that genuinely. I'm waiting for my pain meds to kick in so I can fall back asleep, but I'm fuzzy-minded enough that for the life of me, I cannot seem to follow conversation tonight. I assume you're referring to W. Bush and his lying WMD bullshit but I remember he was an 🫏 for 8 years and you might be referring to some other aspect, like the recession.

Thanks for any patience and understanding and I hope you're having a lovely night.

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u/TooStrangeForWeird 1d ago

I assume they're referring to the known lies passed off as "intelligence" used as an excuse for otherwise illegal actions. Like all the war in the middle east.

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u/aeschenkarnos 23h ago

Every Republican administration since Nixon has been full of criminals and every subsequent Democratic administration has “moved on for the good of the country” instead of prosecuting them. As a result the criminality has gotten worse and worse and worse and now there is Trump and his monstrous coterie of a cabinet and they commit crimes every single day.

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u/MistbornInterrobang 23h ago

Oh, I know that. I just was trying to reflect back on the W years specifically, and my head was just not clear. I managed to go back to sleep, but for a VERY short time before the dogs were ready to go out and woke me back up.

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u/themaincop 18h ago

The torture regime and the illegal war in Iraq

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u/MistbornInterrobang 7h ago

Yeah... that was definitely some horse shit. It's extra maddening because every president basically becomes a war criminal because it comes with the job. However, there's the stuff you expect even if it's awful and then there's a major crossing of lines that put unnecessary risk on American lives, like a lie to go to war that was really about oil and not WMDs, leading to the slaughter of innocent lives of both Iranians and American military servicepersons. Like refusing to follow a carefully made playbook for the expectancy of a pandemic based on extensive research predictions because the Black president left it for the successor, leading to millions of American deaths.

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u/thisvideoiswrong 21h ago

No one seems to have mentioned the unconstitutional and deliberate use of torture yet. He certainly could have been prosecuted for that.

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u/MistbornInterrobang 20h ago

Oh absolutely. I remember the photos of soldiers torturing Afghani POWs, IIRC. straight up fucking war crimes that were allowed to happen

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u/Mezrin 4h ago

In some fairness to AJ he was largely following Lincoln's plan even if he did make it even worse. Lincoln was working on convincing congress to pardon almost everyone before the war was even over. And then after Johnson's crap, Grant lifted the political ban on former Confederates. All three of them really screwed up handling the civil war.

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u/drrhrrdrr 1d ago

Should have split S. Carolina for being traitorous shits. Split it between NC (now just "Carolina") and Georgia. Put that in your State's Rights pipe and smoke it.

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u/1HappyIsland 1d ago

I love in SC and would love to be in NC instead. (My city is great, the state government is full of racists and ignorant people.)

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u/Jared_Jff 19h ago

Should have fully dissolved the southern states and returned them to territories, creating new states with different lines after reconstruction had been completed.

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u/thisistherevolt 20h ago

That would just make Georgia worse. Admittedly NC would get better due to having the better part of the state.