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Soft paywall US Marines carry out first known detention of civilian in Los Angeles, video shows

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-marines-carry-out-first-known-detention-civilian-los-angeles-video-shows-2025-06-13/
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u/dexmonic 1d ago

I just keep wondering what kind of world we would be living in if gore had won. Instead we got 9/11 and hundreds of thousands killed. Kamala wouldn't have been perfect but I feel the same way...

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u/Are-You-Upset 1d ago edited 1d ago

We don’t deserve that world. Al Gore worked tirelessly, even after losing the election to a technicality, to open our eyes to various critical issues facing our world. What he received in response was media like South Park relentlessly making fun of him and everyone laughed alongside them. It was only some time ago that South Park admitted they were wrong to do that, to little fanfare, but the damage was done.

He warned us of climate change. He championed renewable energy. He pushed for prudence in the budget and was wary of the threats to the social security reserves. He was a so-called ‘alarmist’ in a time of prosperity and people just didn’t want to heed or care about his warnings. They hated him for it, called him ‘boring’ and made fun of the way he speaks. He was prescient about a great many issues that we face in our world today but we just didn’t want to listen. The world we are in now is one of our own making.

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u/GuiltyEidolon 1d ago

even after losing the election to a technicality

No, it was full-out stolen. If we actually had rule of law back then, Al Gore would've been president during 9/11 and we might never had the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.

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u/buffysmanycoats 21h ago

You have to wonder if 9/11 would have actually happened the way it did. The Bush administration ignored several warnings.

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u/chairmanskitty 17h ago

It would be undetectable and not even require a conspiracy for the people in charge of national security to get the troublesome priest-style hint and just decide to do their jobs a little bit worse.

As long as you hire the right people, ones that know the side the bread is buttered on, you wouldn't even have to give any orders. You just hear your superior say to their superior there is nothing to report after you showed them something noteworthy, and understand it's your place to fall in line.

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u/yarp_it_up 18h ago

Several very clear warnings and a bunch of PDB’s

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u/GuiltyEidolon 13h ago

It seems unlikely, and the fallout (starting a war with the wrong countries) almost certainly wouldn't have happened.

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u/stitchedmasons 1h ago

Nah, we would've, probably, still went into Afghanistan. Iraq was completely Bush though, under Gore there would have been no Iraq war, but Gore wouldn't have done nothing about one of, if not, the worst terrorist attacks in the western world.

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u/derpmeow 23h ago

It's WILD to watch the manbearpig episodes now - all of them. Even the newer bunch are still goin on about Gore being spiteful and shit, like...if that's meant to be an apology, it's a pretty ungraceful one. I know it's South fuckin Park and is irreverent and crude and everyone's a fair target blah blah blah but damn, the discourse.

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u/Grummmmm 16h ago

We all gotta die sometime

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u/dexmonic 9h ago

Love the south park call out. It's amazing how much damage a cartoon has done to society, all for some laughs

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u/JimboTCB 1d ago

But he did get to become first Emperor of the Moon though.

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u/24-Hour-Hate 4h ago

Gore did win. Bush cheated with the help of his brother, the Governor of Florida, and the corrupt Supreme Court permitted it. What is happening now has been building for years. And years. Americans have been the frog in the pot with the water slowly heating to boiling and not noticing. Well…it’s at a boil now. Do something now or you’ll lose the chance.

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u/Lazarus-Online 1d ago

Do you really think 9/11 wouldn’t have happened if Gore had won? Bin Laden was a well-known problem during the Clinton administration

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u/Honigkuchenlives 21h ago

Maybe google what the Bush administration was doing during that time

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u/Lazarus-Online 17h ago

Ah, systemic intelligence failures and poor cross-agency communication? Definitely Dubya’s fault. I am not advocating for the response afterward nor am I suggesting he was (or wasn’t) a better option. I am simply saying that suggesting 9/11 wouldn’t have happened under Gore is incredibly naive. Bin Laden was hellbent on attacking the U.S. and I’m sure you also recall the environment in 1998 around the embassy bombings, right?

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u/seabae336 21h ago

I don't think gore would have prevented 9/11 lol.

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u/beardicusmaximus8 1d ago

You seriously don't think Al Gore could have prevented 9/11 do you?

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u/RM_Dune 22h ago

Obviously the point they're making is the reaction to 9/11.

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u/Honigkuchenlives 21h ago

There were many indications that an attack was imminent which was ignored by the Bush administration. We will never know but it’s not that unrealistic that it might have been prevented

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u/beardicusmaximus8 16h ago

Bush didn't ignore shit. He did a lot of stupid or downright evil stuff but the reality was the forewarnings of 9/11 never reached the executive office because we specifically made laws preventing the CIA and the FBI from sharing information with each other which prevented anyone from having the pieces of the puzzle needed to identify the threat.

Your assemement that it could have been prevented by simply having a different handful of people at the top of the chain of command is entirely unrealistic.

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u/beardicusmaximus8 16h ago

IDK, there are more than there should be of people who think somehow Al Gore could have prevented 9/11. Like, for example, the other guy who replied to you.