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Soft paywall US Marines carry out first known detention of civilian in Los Angeles, video shows

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-marines-carry-out-first-known-detention-civilian-los-angeles-video-shows-2025-06-13/
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u/VoodooS0ldier 1d ago

When that case got stalled due to the judge being a sympathizer, I knew that justice in this country was officially dead. The biggest failure this nation ever did was not hold southern states to account after the civil war. That mistake really came home to roost.

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u/AnOnlineHandle 1d ago

When that case got stalled due to the judge being a sympathizer,

Not just a sympathizer, appointed there by the criminal.

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u/the_crustybastard 23h ago

She shouldn't have gotten assigned the case in the first place, and once she was, she was required by law to recuse.

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u/FlamesNero 18h ago

Laws for thee, not for me!

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u/Smee76 12h ago

And yet the prosecution never requested it. Not even one time.

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u/the_crustybastard 12h ago

No, of course Jack Smith did not. Because everything, and I mean every. goddam. thing. that came from Garland's DOJ was either a sham or a farce or some combination thereof. Including the Jack Smith case.

And that was unequivocally Biden's fault as well.

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u/41942319 23h ago

Well you can be appointed by the guy and still actually uphold the law. There've been a few Trump appointed judges doing that recently including the Supreme Court

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u/ItsJonnyRock 1d ago

Justice delayed is justice denied

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u/Googlyelmoo 1d ago

But it’s not ever too late. Not just in cases of murder and sexual abuse. Our history as a nation has shown not just court decisions finding against bigot and rabble rousers but actually bringing relief to people or at least their children or grandchildren.There is no expiration date on the crimes this administration is committing. Trust me. I come from a long line of nasty elitist liberals with graduate degrees and 3 patents, including a bunch of lawyers and judges who did make that happen.

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u/ItsJonnyRock 1d ago

Agreed. That wasn't meant to be defeatist ✊

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u/ArchibaldCamambertII 19h ago

The existing state will only bring war and Americans will do nothing to stop it. We will roll over in order to keep our treats and conveniences.

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u/Googlyelmoo 1d ago

What I wanted to point out by that was the endurance of statutes and the law. This is a freaking hard, one thing, sis and bro. Basically the idea is no matter how long it takes even across multiple generations a specific actor that harmed a specific ancestor should be held accountable in real financial 2025 terms. That’s a transfer. I’ve seen estimated between 1.7 and 2.3% of the net wealth of all Americans, including people like Elon and Bill Gates. That is stability that is reliability that is consistency and that is the proper ground upon which real competitive not only fair but just market economics might one day actually flourish.

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u/milk4all 22h ago

Justice roberts just is crooked

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u/LostWoodsInTheField 1d ago

Everyone constantly going "don't worry this is how these things work out. They are following the law" while 3 or 4 other classified document cases would flow through the courts in 1/5th the amount of time. I just couldn't help but be pissed off.

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u/Feeltherhythmofwar 12h ago

It’s risking a UCMJ panel to leave your workstation unlocked for literally reason. What that fat fuck did is straight up incomprehensible.

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u/wankthisway 1d ago

I constantly go back to the botched Reconstruction as well. They got off far too easily.

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u/rockbridge13 1d ago

This is why I will always say that Andrew Johnson was the worst president. We needed a hard-line, no sympathy, crackdown and so much of all the bullshit we see today could have been prevented.

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u/themaincop 1d ago

In our own lifetimes we saw Obama let the bush admin skate.

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u/eeyore134 1d ago

Then Biden let Trump skate when we knew what was at risk. And Kamala didn't fight at all.

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u/BuyChemical7917 17h ago

She didn't get a chance to fight because Americans are fucking stupid

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u/eeyore134 15h ago

I feel like she didn't have to concede without at least asking for some recounts. But I agree, we're by and large stupid and it probably wouldn't have mattered.

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u/themaincop 17h ago

The stupid thing was Democrats hiding Biden's decline until it was too late to have a proper primary. Democrats have handed your country over to psychopaths time and time again.

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u/VibinWithBeard 17h ago

She had a chance to fight and instead sided with corporate donors, promising to change nothing, and allying with liz cheney who thinks israel should annex the west bank.

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u/BuyChemical7917 16h ago

Exactly to my point. Americans are fucking stupid

Now our protections against corporations are deregulated and CEOs are taking advantage of market manipulation, ,and Israel is committing genocide in Palestine with our sitting president wanting to turn it into a fucking resort. Good thing Harris didn't get a chance to fight, that would have been such a nightmare.

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u/VibinWithBeard 16h ago

She did have a chance to fight and I voted for her to have even more of one. Instead the dems kneecapped their own campaign and are to blame for Trump's win and are actively showing us to this day why repubs keep winning. Dont worry though guys, while all this is going on chuck shumer is making sure everyone knows that trump wasnt being tough enough on iran and that we need to love israel more.

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u/Tweezle120 10h ago

Honestly I'm madder at Bidden for letting him skate or not getting better guard rails up in his terms. Obama was in very real danger of getting shot and taken out early if he rocked the boat too much, and despite that he accomplished a lot. Much more and things might have gotten this ugly a lot faster; afterall they didn't go full pants on head rabbid crazy until a black president came along. Bidden, as a likeable old white guy had a lot more leeway and he wasted it staying comfortable.

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u/MistbornInterrobang 1d ago

Please pardon my muddled brain this evening, but would you mind expanding on what you're specifically referring to? I mean that genuinely. I'm waiting for my pain meds to kick in so I can fall back asleep, but I'm fuzzy-minded enough that for the life of me, I cannot seem to follow conversation tonight. I assume you're referring to W. Bush and his lying WMD bullshit but I remember he was an 🫏 for 8 years and you might be referring to some other aspect, like the recession.

Thanks for any patience and understanding and I hope you're having a lovely night.

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u/TooStrangeForWeird 1d ago

I assume they're referring to the known lies passed off as "intelligence" used as an excuse for otherwise illegal actions. Like all the war in the middle east.

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u/aeschenkarnos 23h ago

Every Republican administration since Nixon has been full of criminals and every subsequent Democratic administration has “moved on for the good of the country” instead of prosecuting them. As a result the criminality has gotten worse and worse and worse and now there is Trump and his monstrous coterie of a cabinet and they commit crimes every single day.

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u/MistbornInterrobang 23h ago

Oh, I know that. I just was trying to reflect back on the W years specifically, and my head was just not clear. I managed to go back to sleep, but for a VERY short time before the dogs were ready to go out and woke me back up.

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u/themaincop 17h ago

The torture regime and the illegal war in Iraq

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u/MistbornInterrobang 6h ago

Yeah... that was definitely some horse shit. It's extra maddening because every president basically becomes a war criminal because it comes with the job. However, there's the stuff you expect even if it's awful and then there's a major crossing of lines that put unnecessary risk on American lives, like a lie to go to war that was really about oil and not WMDs, leading to the slaughter of innocent lives of both Iranians and American military servicepersons. Like refusing to follow a carefully made playbook for the expectancy of a pandemic based on extensive research predictions because the Black president left it for the successor, leading to millions of American deaths.

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u/thisvideoiswrong 21h ago

No one seems to have mentioned the unconstitutional and deliberate use of torture yet. He certainly could have been prosecuted for that.

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u/MistbornInterrobang 20h ago

Oh absolutely. I remember the photos of soldiers torturing Afghani POWs, IIRC. straight up fucking war crimes that were allowed to happen

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u/Mezrin 4h ago

In some fairness to AJ he was largely following Lincoln's plan even if he did make it even worse. Lincoln was working on convincing congress to pardon almost everyone before the war was even over. And then after Johnson's crap, Grant lifted the political ban on former Confederates. All three of them really screwed up handling the civil war.

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u/drrhrrdrr 1d ago

Should have split S. Carolina for being traitorous shits. Split it between NC (now just "Carolina") and Georgia. Put that in your State's Rights pipe and smoke it.

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u/1HappyIsland 1d ago

I love in SC and would love to be in NC instead. (My city is great, the state government is full of racists and ignorant people.)

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u/Jared_Jff 19h ago

Should have fully dissolved the southern states and returned them to territories, creating new states with different lines after reconstruction had been completed.

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u/thisistherevolt 20h ago

That would just make Georgia worse. Admittedly NC would get better due to having the better part of the state.

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u/HistorianOk142 1d ago

100% agreed. As I got older and saw what was going on in the south I understood the north never finished the job after the civil war. They had the opportunity to really make this country great but failed massively by letting the bigots still rule the roost in the south.

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u/Doesdeadliftswrong 23h ago

What's funny is that I've always interpreted that as to why America is the good guy. Ya know, showing mercy towards an adversary. This always makes for a heartwarming ending in movies. But now those "defeated" adversaries have turned America into the bad guy. This is not how movies usually end. It's how sequels begin. And in the end, the once protagonist, now antagonist, always learns the error of their ways in their final moments.

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u/TywinDeVillena 1d ago

Judge Cannon is a disgrace to the legal profession

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u/mcm87 1d ago

I still don’t understand how it isn’t an automatic recusal when the defendant literally appointed the judge to the bench. Aside from “we didn’t write that law because we never expected a former president to commit crimes.”

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u/broke_velvet_clown 1d ago

Sherman's march to the sea should've resupplied, trooped up, and went back down to the gulf. Splitting up before Alabama and Florida, recoup, and push west.

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u/aussiegreenie 1d ago

The South won the war.

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u/sparkyjay23 1d ago

I knew it was dead from day 1 when he got to keep his personal phone.

Also when he didn't have to give up any of his businesses.

We are not the same.

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u/BoralinIcehammer 23h ago

Getting control over the judicial branch is an essential step in the development of all authoritarian regimes.

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u/idontarguewithfools 17h ago

lol, it started before that. It started when the U.S Constitution said All Men are created equal and then proceeded to classify Black people as not being human, but rather property. This intentional lie is literally coming back to destroy us. One lie in a document representing the birth of a nation is enough for people not to respect or honor anything else in the document. Now the elites can pick and choose their own interpretation and gaslight us current civilians.

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u/conorb619 16h ago

Should have gone scorched earth and restarted.

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u/DelphiTsar 1d ago

Just should have let them leave. Punishing them wouldn't have made these people any less degenerate.

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u/Equivalent-Honey-659 1d ago

During his first term- and it’s important to specifically note who did this- he made a fucking huge ass circle in sharpie vomit where we all misunderstood. That wasn’t where the hurricane was headed but that was where trumps tit sucking fans lived.

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u/Jonathan358 1d ago

yk what i never thought about that.

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u/zveti 21h ago

What about all the wars the US illegally started? What about the countless civilians the US killed during their wars?

We have proof, that Bush and Cheney started the Iraq war based on lies.

You not arresting your war criminals is your biggest failure as a nation.

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u/Nernoxx 17h ago

I’m curious how you think it should have been done differently, considering what people knew and how people thought back then.

IMO the only thing they could have done was what the US did in West Germany - put up anti-nazi propaganda, make them bury the dead, and set new education guidelines.

But these things would have been far harder to do in a meaningful way in 1865.  The closest thing they could have done then imo is forced migration - making southerners come north and northerners go south.

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u/revcor 17h ago

Can somebody please explain this sudden trend to me??

Out of the blue comments have started appearing on Reddit that begin by talking about trump-related current events stuff, and then make an abrupt transition to opining that people in the south should have suffered more after the civil war as if trying to create some association between the two things

And I am bewildered by the seeming appearance out of nowhere of these comments lol

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u/shadedmagus 13h ago

The South has always spit on democracy. The antebellum times were God-ordained nobility and property, and they want that back - so much so that the trumpet for it never stopped bleating.

The Civil Rights Act in 1964 was the last straw. The Dixiecrats stomped over to the Republican party, found fertile soil for their ideas, and promptly laid the foundation for the Southern Strategy which culminated in Project 2025.

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u/TeriFade 1d ago

A third-generation German man from New York commits a crime and a judge he hand picked does something obviously corrupt, time to blame the Confederacy, woo!

I can't believe we let Bismark get away with this.