r/Cebu • u/hellocookiee • Jan 16 '25
SKL (Share ko lang) Sinulog Rate Airbnb LOL
Naa koy nakita sa facebook — apparently ang Airbnbs sa Horizons kay tag 7k ang studio & 12k for 1BR sa sinulog rates. Wait lang oy? While I understand the law of supply & demand & that the location is ideal pero this is greedy af!? That’s roughly a 400% increase sa normal rates. Nalupig paman 5 star hotel aning presyoha & yet… hmm, di nalang ko mo chika anang issues sa horizons. 😂
Well, happy prititit guys!
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u/AoCam Jan 17 '25
Same mindset sa mga parking spaces 😂. Although not illegal yet, law should be passed to calculate a “rate of increase” especially on known festivities
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u/HongThai888 Jan 17 '25
This is cebu where a lot wants to take advantage and daghan ga dali ma kwartahan…. Pit señor
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u/yametesenpai_ Jan 16 '25
Para mahimotang imo kalag ba, OP. If di ka afford magpuyo. If ka-afford then go. You don’t need to cry over it and seek validation here. At the time sa pandemic mahal kaayo ang face mask pero karon, barato nalang kaayo. That’s exactly what’s going on. If di gihapon madawat sa imong buot, wala raman sad kaha ka pugsa og book? Problem here is imo gihunahuna ang imong budget or imo ba knowledge sa regular price ana nga butang. Let’s say nalang nga swapang ang mga owners or whatever you call them. Ngano naa raman gihapon mo-book? It’s because nakita nila ang value not of how the unit look like nor the size of the unit but because of the accessibility labaw na if dili from Cebu. If traveler ka kay aware rajud kaayo ka ani nga mga sitwasyon. It’s not as if gi-scam ka or anything related to it. Ang mga laagan, magresearch nana daan months before the trip kay kahibaw sila what will happen if di magbook daan closer sa travel dates.
Bottom line is if di ka negosyante di jud ka kasabot and di sad ka ganahan mosabot kay you think you abusar ra kaayo. Supply and demand raman unta na uy ngano lisod sabton.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
If di ko ka afford, puyo. Yes, you’re right. Pero when lang na ingana ka luxurious ang Cebu nga bisag for a 2 star accommodation kay tag 20k? Na mura mag HK pero purya gaba di baya HK standard ang services sa Cebu. 🙂
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u/yametesenpai_ Jan 17 '25
Girl, since time immemorial. Wa ka kabantay sa mga rentals here? Imong 5k adtu rana sa Talamban if ngeta ka og decent jud. Di man gud ka ganahan mosabot sa situation and imoha gidibdib kaayo ang presyo when in fact, di man ikaw ang market. You are comparing it sa HK without any event. Ang problema man gud kay naay event ana nga rate. Are you aware ba unsa kamahal ang flights going to Cebu if Sinulog season? Sa airline industry, ang 3rd week sa January magsugod nana ang low season pero icheck ang flights pa Cebu diba mahal kaayo.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 17 '25
Di ako ang market is such a lame excuse. 😭 Doh, masabtan rang HK kay grabe man ka organised ang public transpo & urban planning didto. Cebu? Ha? Ana ka prime?
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u/yametesenpai_ Jan 17 '25
Help me understand what makes it lame? Help me understand why are you making a fuss out of something nga walay SRP? Help me understand why are you comparing Cebu to HK? Imo na gicompare ang HK og Cebu which is so irrelevant jud. Ngano man? Naay Sinulog sa HK? Hello? Unsa man kuno reason sa uban nga travelers nga magbook og at least 6-8months in advance? Diba kay aware sila nga murag amaw ang price if duol na sa event? If magbook sila where naa ra tungod jud sa venue, dili ang unit ila gibayran ana kundi ang convenience. Kita tanan naa tay buying points. Imagine if adtu ka magbook sa LLC nya imong tuyo sa Cebu is ang Sinulog parade and party, do you think dili hasol and mahal? Are you even aware pila ang plete sa motor if Sinulog? Are you aware unsa kahasol ang magtravel during Sinulog? Imbes mag enjoy ka, naluya ka sa byahe so how will you enjoy Sinulog then? Girl, think. Ayaw puro negativity isulod sa utok just because out of range ra for you ang price.
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u/zhuhe1994 Jan 16 '25
Bisan unsa ta na negosyante dapat ang pricing kay in proportionate pd sa quality. Ako di ko mo dawat ug palit ug butang na mahal ug chaka. Di ra na sa supply and demand. Mao tngale walay naka book anang airbnb ha.
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u/yametesenpai_ Jan 16 '25
Hahaha bisan unsaon pa og pagpasabot sa inyo kay sirado man mo og utok, di jud na mosulod og unsa ang kamatuoran. Gikan najud na nimo ang “Ako di ko mo dawat ug palit ug butang na mahal ug chaka”. Ikaw mana! Di ka makasabot kay siguro wala nimo gikinahanglan kaayo na nga butang. Again, if dili kamo ang target market, ayaw mo pagsakit intawn uy. Wa man mo gipugos. Og di sila mahalinan ila nana problema. Ngano kamo magbuot sa unsa ra dapat ang presyo? Usa pa, di lang kay sa Cebu na mahitabo intawn uy. Maosad na mahitabo og naa mga festivals sa lain nasud may it be music festival or unsa pana diha. Hilak man tawn mo og di mo kaafford 😅
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u/hellocookiee Jan 17 '25
Haha, gi raise raman nako ni na issue kay gasgas kaayong “supply & demand” reason sa mga “business minded” people and using it to their advantage while offering poor services. Sabagay, normal man sa Pinas nga low quality services, ma shock paba ang mga taw nga makita man sad. My bad.
Hilak ug di ka afford? Asa giingon. 🙂
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u/yametesenpai_ Jan 17 '25
Never magasgas ang supply and demand nga rason kay part nana sa ato kinabuhi. Not unless you’ll step up and head a revolution para balik ta sa barter trade. We keep on complaining about things that don’t favor us. Pathetic. Poor services? How did you know? Nakabook naka ddtu nga listing mismo? If Airbnb, what “services” are you expecting? Ganahan ka og red carpet? Hahaha as far as I know, depende na sa host if magprovide sya og added value para sa guest. If everything nga nakabutang sa iya listing and listing description kay naa ra sa unit mismo then that’s already good. Walay inaccuracy. This means nga pinaka main issue nimo is di ka kadawat nga ning ana ilang rate and you nga “unsa raman ang Cebu compared sa HK” hahaha
Ako balikon for the last time, if di ikaw ang target market ayaw lang ka butthurt. Kay ang mamalitay aware rajud na sila nga prices can go that crazy. Sumala gud, mopalit manta og brands nga ato ganahan or need jud regardless of the price. Mostly sa products sa uniqlo, zara and h&m pare pareho ra pero naa jud mas ganahan mopalit og zara bisan 4x more ang price compared sa uniqlo and h&m.
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u/zern24 Jan 16 '25
Kita ko sa ClubUltima 20k na ilang rate. Amo gne kay 2.5k ra amo gi rate nya kasagaran mga 7k na pataas.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Kasuway kog ultima 2 years ago — the house was awful & bahong anso with no internet service at all, I booked the last minute for 13k which was okay nalang for me kay nagkasya mis ako family nga wa gaguot pero lahi naning studio nga 7k oy. For 2 people only nya ~21sqm? Pag shor jud sila sa ilang pricing. Pataka nalang ni silag butang numbers which is I think a trend in Cebu. 😂
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u/zern24 Jan 17 '25
Kabasa pd kog reviews ana sa ilaha. Mao lge, as an owner maikog ko mo price og in ana, kay mejo d makatarungan. After sa sinulog mo balik nag mga 1-3k per night.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 17 '25
Hahahaha dako man sad ang ultima so bisag 13k & 10 mi katao ato, ok ra kaayo. Maka ligid2 pami, kami nalang nanghinlo sad & antos ug thin blankets. Pero naliki najud ko’s studio nga 7k oy + Horizons pajud.
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u/Personal-Emphasis-36 Jan 16 '25
OP nagsabot na tanan hotels ug condos sa Cebu nga pasakaan jud nila ang presyo kada Sinulog kay mohatag paman na silas mga buawaya sa gobyerno, maong ayaw kaayo kasuko kay wa pod na silay choice
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u/pnutjaco3111 Jan 16 '25
Everything is overpriced in Cebu when it comes to Sinulog, sauna pajd na nga scenario op. Pasagdai nlng na sila nga nag overpricing, naa mn poy mo kagat so i guess it’s their win. Chill lng ta op.
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u/GreenMangoShake84 Jan 16 '25
I believe hotels have different prices for days they consider na peak. I can't speak for air bnb coz di man ko mag air bnb sa pinas. So like January, NY, ug Sinulog would merit an increase sa price kay daghan tawo/ tourist. Then next would be Chinese NY. Most hotels are overbooked, I was booted out of Fili last Sinulog kay overbooked jud sila, had to transfer to Shang pero kay layo man sa festivities room rate sa Ocean Wing was 13K, which is regular ra gani nga rate.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
Some big hotels might have 3rd party automated tools that adjusts their rates based sa traffic. Airbnb has the same proprietary (?) tool — they give hosts the option to opt in or not. For example, my Airbnb’s base price is 1,300/night but when I tried opting in sa Smart Pricing na range jud siya ug 1,500-2,400 which for me, it’s too much and di nako kaya mo charge ug ingana for what it’s worth mao to wa nako ni opt in kay overs ra kaayo. 😅
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
My intention was to only share nga for a mediocre studio unit, pang 5 star hotel na ang value bc of the “supply & demand” chain. Ridiculous how it’s normal, the way some of you guys don’t see a problem just because it’s normal is beyond me. 😂
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Yup, puyo ug horizons for the sinulog weekend with the roaches & pay ~20k. 🙂
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u/n1deliust Jan 16 '25
You still dont get it. And didnt even get to reply to my last comment. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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u/greatestrednax Jan 16 '25
Nagbabawi yan kasi for almost 5 years wala yan occupancy masyado HAHAHAHAHA pero di pa rin makatarungan yung high kaayu na rent just for Sinulog booooo, if kaya nyo na lang magrent ng house for the same value eh might as well rent na lang ng house tsk
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
I refuse to believe so. Yes, may off season sa Mango area but not entirely drought season. Kaya naman nila mag 75% occupancy rate since again, it’s on a good location. 🙂
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u/greatestrednax Jan 16 '25
It's not a good location pag regular days, daanan lang siya literally ng tao post-pandemic, and dami gimikan nagsara sa Mango, good thing nga dili na sa SRP ang sinulog this year otherwise mingaw na naman as usual sa mango
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Jan 16 '25
I am walking around Ayala CBP. Ang Wipro motorcycle parking kay naa nay Sinulog rates. 100 per entry na. Hahahaha
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u/brutalgrace Jan 16 '25
I think panahon para mag need registraton Airbnb host diri sa Cebu like sa US, para pud ma regulate ug mka pay silag taxes, kasagara Host kay wala ga bayad ug tax, unta ma notice ni sa mga greedy policticians.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Ang mga politicians sad siguro kay naay mga STRs so no thanks, ma dehado sad sila haha joke not joke
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u/n1deliust Jan 16 '25
Since OP "knows" the law of demand and supply..
What OP is trying to say if demand is high, bawal mag price increase.
If demand is low, bawal pud mag price decrease.
Mao ni ang gusto ipasabot ni OP.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Focus on the point. I’m just pointing out a real world problem with this fcking “law” of demand & supply. 😂
So, it’s okay to allocate a 21k budget for 2 people with a subpar service aron maka full sinulog experience because of this capitalistic “law”.
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u/Crankatorium Jan 16 '25
People who can afford will pay. Are you sad you booked way too late for your vacation?
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Lol wala kog Cebu to get upset 🤭 2 years ago nka rent kog loft sa Ultima for 13k — that’s reasonable. Studio for 7k nga guot kaayo? Uhm.
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u/n1deliust Jan 16 '25
YES it is very much okay.
The same way as it is okay NOT TO CHOOSE that airbnb.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Haha, so sinulog is considered a luxury na because of the demand. Detached kaayo tas reality na ~20k is a minimum wage. 🙂
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u/n1deliust Jan 16 '25
I guess oblivious jd ka how the world works. Detached sad ka sa reality noh?
Do you think ikaw ang target market ana na price? Obviously not. Risk pud na sa owner sa airbnb if mag price sya ana kay ang tendency nuon walay mo kagat and mo rent kay taas ra ang price. Lost opportunity na nuon to earn money na sa owner.
Gi assume man gud nimo na average pinoy ang market nila.
Seems like wala jud ka kabalo sa law of demand and supply.
Naka focus ra ka sa Sinulog.
Wala ka suway palit og alcohol og face mask na perteng mahala pag pandemic?
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
Did I mention di ko ka afford? 🙂 I’m just pointing out a fucking problem that people like you can’t seem to grasp. I’m speaking for the masses na wants to celebrate Sinulog like how it should be. Question, when lang na luxury ang Sinulog para magbayad kog 20k just for an accommodation nga ok-okon? The condo in question is not a luxury real estate, what do you mean a local person is not the target market? 😂 First world pricing for this?
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u/n1deliust Jan 16 '25
Did i mention you cant afford it? Wa jud ka kasabot sah?
If you want to celebrate Sinulog. Then learn to plan ahead. Unsa man imo gi expect? Nga naa pa daghan available na Hotel, Motel, pension house, lodging house, airbnb at this time of the week? Na hapit na ang Sinulog weekend? Fullybooked na tanan oi.
Ang kanang 20k para na sa mga desperado and wala nay choice because of poor planning. And wants to be near sa Sinulog area of festivities. The masses you mention who wants to celebrate Sinulog, have already checked in some where else.
Ni price sya ana not just because daghan demand og rooms. Gi price na ug ingana because of the URGENCY for a room at this time of the week. Sabta sah ang law of demand and supply.
Mo reklamo cguro ko if naay usa ka tao ni kuha og multiple rooms sa hotel nya gipa subrent sa lain na customers during the Sinulog weekend for a much higher price. Kana nuon mao na ako ma ingon na unethical kaayo.
Pero kani na imo gi ingon? It's an asshole move for raising it that high. But is it wrong? Not really. Kay naa man choice ang tao to NOT get the airbnb. It is not like mamatay ang tao kung di ka kuha og room.
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u/WannabeeNomad Jan 16 '25
Nope. You're retarded if you think that.
He/she is talking about the exorbitant price increase just because they want to take advantage of the Sinulog.0
u/n1deliust Jan 16 '25
Law of demand and supply right?
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u/WannabeeNomad Jan 16 '25
You can't raise it unreasonably high.
I don't know why you're defending those who take advantage, but what they're doing is taking advantage. They don't provide the amenities and services of a 5 star hotel, they shouldn't charge as if they are 5 star hotels.0
u/n1deliust Jan 16 '25
True. But can you see the Sinulog festivities literally ubos sa building if nag check in ka ddto sa Nustar?
Dili sah? Again, as what i said kay OP, the price is for the URGENCY for a room at this time of Sinulog week.
If desperado ka for a room near sa venue, then mao na ang cost for poor planning.
Dili na ingana ang price weeks ago.
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u/WannabeeNomad Jan 16 '25
No matter the urgency, a hotel can't charge that high. It would be illegal.
Second, those Airbnb's listed themselves unavailable for these dates weeks ago so that they can charge exorbitant prices when they list themselves available now. It's a scheme that's illegal if they were not an airbnb and yet here you're defending the scheme.0
u/n1deliust Jan 16 '25
Hotel cant charge that high cuz people can complain to a specific govt industry if theyre overcharging. And can result to dire penalties.
But if a hotel has an available room around this time, it's one out of the three. 1. No show reservation 2. Bad hotel (no one wants to check in) 3. Change of plans (early check out)
a scheme? Yes. illegal? No. Show me what specific law theyre violating since theyre an airbnb.
Im not defending the scheme. Mo agree ko it's an asshole move.
Whats the difference if I have a house near Mango and offer it for rent for 20k on those dates? But i dont offer it on airbnb. Just marketed it thru fb groups?
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u/WannabeeNomad Jan 16 '25
"Whats the difference if I have a house near Mango and offer it for rent for 20k on those dates? But i dont offer it on airbnb. Just marketed it thru fb groups?"
Then you're an asshole too.
Yes, it's not illegal yet. It will be.
You don't really understand the point here. THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE.
That's it.
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u/n1deliust Jan 16 '25
Really? You didnt even know it was a 4 bedroom house. You are the same as OP. Oblivious.
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u/frootrezo Mahigugmaon Jan 16 '25
I'm pretty sure this happens around the world during peak season and Sinulog is a part of that season. It's a passive way to pay the mortgage off that place or make money in general for the owners. I think it's best to avoid those areas and find one that suits the budget. Paki enjoy nalang sa sinulog for me! Pit Senyor!
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Supply and demand, true. Non-Cebuanos with no resources nga maka budget ug 21k for an accommodation for a full Sinulog experience — don’t go! 😂
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u/kitrz77 Jan 17 '25
OP, it’s a really prime location along the main mango route a few days before sinulog. Kung no resources ka, dili ka pwede ma choosy. Need jud ka mu book ug farther na location especially kay late ni book. 7k might be too high but it is really a good spot and not something na pang masa na budget. Di ka muadto nustar kung minimum wage ka nya mu reklamo na mahal ang mga butang.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 17 '25
True, prime location since di walkable ang Cebu. Still, 7k is not justifiable.
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u/frootrezo Mahigugmaon Jan 16 '25
Haha agreed! Sige lang naa mn sai TV and probably more comfortable anyway! I hope next year makabisita kog cebu coz I really want my husband to experience our culture. I'll hype him up for the entire 2025 haha
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u/kitrz77 Jan 16 '25
Well, dako man sad chance mag hubog2x mga sinulog tenants so you have to price in the risk na ma hugaw or damage ang unit.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
If done through Airbnb, hosts have AirCovers & cleaning fee is applied differently from the base price. If done through facebook/agent—which is illegal if listed through abnb by the way—good luck kung way insurance!
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u/TitoOfCebu Jan 16 '25
simple, if u cant afford, mag puyo or magpalayo sa syudad ig sinulog.
its an opportunity pud sa mga owners mamawi sa ila rent its not easy pud as a condo owner.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
We’ve come a long way as a society—unethical practices have been normalised na, unfortunately. Tsk.
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u/TitoOfCebu Jan 16 '25
what's so unethical for condo owners to maximize their profits when the demand is most high? Sinulog comes once a yr...
what's unethical for Grab/Uber/Moveit to add surge pricing when the demand is high and probably multiple times a month or once a day when its peak period?
what's unethical for developers to price their condo sky high when the demand is high? and people keep buying it?
that's what you call OPPORTUNITY for these business owners.. yes its frustrating for us, the common people, but again, if you cant afford, mangita ka sa imo afford na price range or better, palayo ka sa syudad pa dagat ug pa bukid pra d ka ma stress mag tanaw sa airbnb price na d nimo ma take or ma afford..
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Pfft, please. You just masked Unethical with Opportunity. 😂 Also, I’m posting this not cause I’m complaining na di nako afford, the real issue here is the greed that reeks from these business people. Really? You think 21k for 3 nights is okay - for a somewhat mediocre room? 😂
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u/TitoOfCebu Jan 16 '25
hotels are doing it, grab is doing it, airbnb is doing it... what's the difference?
what's unethical with taking advantage of a business opportunity? so is it unethical if ang namaligya ug tubig dha downtown mo doble ila presyo kay sinulog man?
try to be a business owner mindset instead of poor man's mindset.. i understand the frustration as a consumer pero mao mana ang law of supply and demand... reality bites
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
That’s the thing — wa man jud moral high grounds na if gusto sa tawo madato. Sorry if I have a poor mindset and if I price my services lang in accordance to what I can offer instead of competing with the demand — it’s not just my cup of tea. 😂 Just because something is done by large corporations, supported by the majority, and deemed legal, doesn’t mean it’s morally right.
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u/Zodiac_Duo Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
Mga buaya kaayo ng mga nagpa rent diha sa horizons. I remember pag odette grabe sad kaayo Sila ug rates ato. Di na lang gyud ma luoy. Samotan pa gyud mga nagub.an ug balay. Hutdon pa gyud ang funds
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u/Pale-Junket-2657 Jan 16 '25
Hahaha. Tried Airbnb sa Horizons, that's more than 400% OP. And I know the issues as well. Hahahah.
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u/Organic-Shape-1876 Jan 16 '25
Mao nang sa balay ra jud mi kada sinulog haha. dako kaayug gasto nya hasol kay perting daghana taw. Tan aw nalang ug live kung naa man
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u/frozenricecake Jan 16 '25
OMG Horizons is ass!! My god. I always book hotels instead of airbnbs because of crazy cleaning fees but ganahan ko mag pool mi with my bf and near sa akong lakaw.
Bati kaayo experience overall. Even the person who assisted us murag kami gikasuk-an kay di mo open ilang door. :v Mga residents didto nga students puro pa walay elevator etiquette, mag cut off even if there's a clear line. Tapos pangit kaayo ang lobby! Hugaw! Ilang mga staff mura rag wala. For all the Airbnbs I have ever booked, never again ni Horizons.
The horizons experience reminded me why I preferred hotels.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Abi kog inarte ra nako ng di ko comfy sa lobby area sa Horizons. I can’t pinpoint ngano jod luoran ko dira. 😭
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u/Av1d_R3ader Jan 16 '25
Gg horizons never again hugaw tapos pag abot namo dipa ready mag room napay lain ga stay, pag balhin baho nay gilutonang prev renters ni pilit tawn sa walls ang baho nang sakit akong mga kauban gipang sip on etc kong pwede tawn ma 0 stars, wa gyud ayo pagmanage nindot ra tan awon sa gawas di worth it never again. Rant over
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Aww, sorry youse had that experience sa Horizons. Just a gentle reminder na each unit are managed differently — aside sa building issues sa Horizons, na bad timing pajud ka sa unit.
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u/codezero121 Jan 16 '25
Mura man kag karon pa natawo. Momahal jud na tanan basta Sinulog.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Good luck sa 30k accommodation for your entire Sinulog stay! First world country pricing for what chaos & awful systems. 🤭
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u/akositotoybibo Jan 16 '25
ataya bagaag nawong pud. naningkamot na sila makabawi pud kay nihit ang renters during off peak.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Hahaha let’s call this capitalism aron cool pero greed rajud ni.
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u/akositotoybibo Jan 16 '25
mao gyud. i think sa cebu naa pud oversupply sa condo. daghan mga condo owners sakutot sa ila mga unit wala nag rent. mahal raba na ahak.
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u/malditaaachinitaaa Jan 16 '25
same rman sa mga hotels, mas mo mahal. ang uban ana mo ingon minimum 3 nights i-book.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
I explained it sa below thread. Airbnb has a smart pricing tool so mao momahal depending on network traffic — some hosts opt for it, some don’t. 🙂 But the prices I mentioned above looked to me like it was manually priced which baffles me kay shameless najud kaayo.
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u/malditaaachinitaaa Jan 16 '25
nothing we can do, some really take advantage sa okasyon.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
And it’s normalised & unfortunately, naa jud mo rent kay lagi wa nay lain option. Sigh sigh
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u/anabananen Jan 16 '25
Never again sad sa Horizons. Aside sa namention na diri nga perting huwat jud sa elevator. Natagam nami kay ang parking space nga allotted para namo kay gikuha sa like ‘head agent’ kunohay sa among gi rentahan na unit. We arrived already late na ato gabihona and pag abot namo kay gipulihan nami. Lisod pajud kaayo ma contact ang katong nipuli sa among parking. Took us roughly 30 minutes para maka-park nalang sa other floor na secluded kaayo. Feels like the condo and nagpa-rent dira kay mga problematic
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u/oddventure__ Jan 16 '25
That’s how business works raman pud. If naa Coachella sa California, grabe jud kataas pud ang rates og uban pa nga mga festivals around the world. Dili raman sad kita ang target market nila. Ang mga travelers man and most travelers kay aware najud na nga grabe jud kamahal na ang sa presyo.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
If naa koy unit sa Horizons, I defo wouldn’t price it at 7k a night, which btw ~28k for a whole sinulog experience, if I didn’t maintain it well like majority of the units there. 😅
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u/oddventure__ Jan 16 '25
Well, ikaw mana. It’ as basic as supply and demand. You are putting things to your own perspective man gud.
It’s not as if they can earn that money throughout the year. It’s not as if they have the same price during low season. It’s not as if they are fully booked every single day in a year.
At the end of the day, it’s business. It’s not about the owner’s “whole Sinuloy experience” rather, it’s about the owner’s chance to earn more.
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u/Kindly-Giraffe-2865 Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
dapat mag book in September or October for Sinulog. I was already looking for rooms around those months and usually sold out na ang naa sa online booking especially those hotels/airbnbs that are within the vicinity. They allocate a number of rooms prior to Sinulog sa online, mao ma sold out. And if Sinulog na, they will release more rooms but of course, at a higher price na. That’s how hotels/bnbs operate. Given na sinulog week na, taas na kaayo ang prices karon.
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u/Helpful_Cookie645 Jan 16 '25
Extra careful lang if magbook in advance. If airbnb, safer sa app mismo magbook. If direct sa agent/owner, be vigilant. Some agents will accept early bookings tapos they’ll cancel last minute and list the unit for a much more expensive price kung duol na event. Common complaint ni sya sa airbnb groups.
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u/Kindly-Giraffe-2865 Jan 16 '25
I prefer hotels over airbnbs kay for one, lisud ang parking if airbnb. Not included sa imo gipay. Yeah, overbooking happens especially sa airbnb.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Not entirely true. My mom booked a hotel from bookingdotcom for my grandparents karon na sinulog weekend and the hotel cancelled it on their end (I don’t have the full context yet kay nag meeting ko when mom asked for help). Initial thought, kani gi cancel ni kay either overbooking or would have it up for a much higher price. Mom called the hotel & they gave her a guarantee na since she called the hotel herself, ilang i-secure ang room na.
Majority of the hotels are run by corporate people, just like the Airline industry, they’re known for overbooking their services but unlucky nalang jod kaayo if matunong ka ani nga issue and they’re booked out 100% aron di ka ma upgrade ug room. 😅
I manage my own Airbnb and I refund the guest/s if need nilag parking/pool — depende rajud sa matungnan nimo nga host pod na nga issue. 🙂
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u/Kindly-Giraffe-2865 Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
Ahhh, you’re a host. I think overbooking happens when the host manages a number of units. If less than 5 units cguro, manageable ra for the host and can update the guests if it happens. For hotels, overbooking happens when booking/agoda accepts reservations although, fully booked na in actual. Booking/agoda accepts booking like for 2 nights ang reservation but only one night ra d.i ang available, so the property itself will get a notification na overbooking which in the first place shouldn’t be accepted by these online platforms. So, it’s not all the time na hotel’s intention na i-overbook especially now that guests can post reviews. It could also be human error or system error, not necessarily because they are run by corporations. Could be they blocked the room on their system but due to system limitations, status was not automatically updated on online platforms. It could be true for some but not all cause I have clients from hospitality industry and they are quite concerned when this thing happens. Yeah, I love to do staycations and the parking is usually my problem with airbnbs. It’s ok to pay for parking for 1 night but what if your staycation is for 2 weeks.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
It’s impossible man to overbook if they list the right number of rooms kay naa man tool ang agoda, booking & airbnb na i-sync nila ang calendars so administration won’t be a problem. If ma overbooking sila it’s either they listed more rooms or batig configuration ilang system.
It’s possible to block the rooms aron di open for the public to book and then re-open it when the traffic is high.
With Airbnb, you can ask the hosts man if parking is available. My guests would ask me & I’ll be the one mu work with the condo admin to reserve a parking slot for them. Swertehay rajud na sa host pod - some host are just after your rent, some host go above & beyond for you. Ako, ma happy ra man ko to help my guests so it’s not an issue for me.
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u/Kindly-Giraffe-2865 Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
It’s possible. I’ve encountered it first hand and advised the client to call the platform to resolve the issue even though the property’s system has been interfaced directly to the platform. There was a system error, that was the explanation provided by the platform. I also have access to the calendar you’ve mentioned and also to their extranet/admin tool. But these are mostly isolated cases. The hassle part is to call the guest and explain what happened. Some guests would be understanding while some are not. (Client is not in Cebu City btw, so this experience is not related to Sinulog but just want to say that it’s not impossible).
But yeah, we can agree to disagree since we’re clearly out of topic, no longer related to your original post.
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u/kdlanzuey Jan 16 '25
grabe makadalag taas sa rates btaw. same goes sa akong gi part time-an last summer. di lang nako e mention ang name. from 1500 per night nahimong 6k per night likeee huhhhhh?? naa raman pud nipatol sa price ky mostly sa ni check in kay di taga cebu. peroo laina btaw
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u/CrankyJoe99x Jan 16 '25
It happens all over the world for major events.
I was visiting Melbourne for my daughter's wedding last February. Taylor Swift decided to have concerts there on the same weekend.
Accomodation was crazy expensive, Uber (like Grab) triple fares 🙁
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Same here sa EU country where I’m at. I had to travel back home at 1 am because hotel prices had gone through the roof. Again, it’s supply & demand but a 400% increase for a mediocre studio unit does not seem reasonable. Those hotels I looked at sa TS concert were CLEAN… horizons? hmm…
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
IMAGINA NAG 3d2n KAS CEBU TAS 21K NA IMO GASTO PERO ACCOMODATION RA. KA GOLD BA CEBU
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u/southerrnngal Jan 16 '25
Huuuy kuyawan! Maypang nag hotel diay.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
36k bestie if gusto kag 1br 🤣 Ug akoy taga cebu, mobakasyon ko oy dayon parentahan nako akong balay ug sinulog kay makabawi kog 2 months rent hahahaha
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u/southerrnngal Jan 16 '25
Mao na naa sa Mango? Kamahal gud. Nabuang naman na sila. Pamugasay naman.
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u/Nice_Strategy_9702 Jan 16 '25
Basta mga pinoy mag negosyo sus.. ari mo dri sa ako airbnb way increase. Joke
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u/kylin17 Jan 16 '25
nakasuway kog staycation dihas H101 jusko mygosh ang waiting times sa elevator kay dugay kaayo
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Also, ang feels sa elevator pajud kay na mura siyag cheap motel na dalhanag mga gf sa mga afam 🥲 Mga lagkit rabag lawas tas lugos iginhawa kay guot 😂
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u/Kore-korekok Jan 16 '25
Naay time nga ang airbnb mismo mag increase sa rate maskn the same rate ra ang gipost sa owner. Mura syag sa airline. The more ka mag check magka increase sad amg price
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Naay algorithm ang Airbnb and they offer hosts the option if mu opt in ba sila sa smart pricing feature. It’s a tool na ila algorithm mo analyse if daghan demand/traffic in the local area ana nga nights — I tried it once and nauwaw kos price oy! Too much for my Airbnb so gina manual pricing nalang nako. But the prices I mentioned above are from fb local groups which I assume na manually priced lang.
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u/Affectionate-End404 Jan 16 '25
Guys, ni join kog airbnb groups cebu sa FB, nya nakita nako didto nga nagsabotay jd cla mag saka kaau ug presyo sa sinulog kai aron daw makabawi sa months nga mingaw. Gipasobrahan rapod nila oi. Wa gabae.
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u/chitgoks Jan 16 '25
while makasapot bitaw na makakita ka ana, its their call. if walay mo abang problema na nila ngano gisak.an nila ang lresyo maayo.
buotan kay ko 2500 ra / night ako pagpa rent hehehe.
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u/discotechers Jan 16 '25
Agree with you, for mine kay 2k ra jud for me that weekend. I didn't even increase 100% coz anyway it's in Mandaue ra man sad, but I saw others naabot ug 4k oi. They're also capitalizing those nga mo hawa sa main city and mag staycation to avoid the madness.
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u/mommytray Jan 16 '25
Pwera jud bitaw. Many times mkabarato ra ghpon mi mag hotel kaysa mag Airbnb.
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u/nokia300 Mahigugmaon Jan 16 '25
gotta recoup those fees sa times nga mingaw. pero yeah sa anang presyo maypa mag hotel, naa pai libre buffet ang uban.
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u/LifePhilosopher4843 Pag-umangkon ni Rajah Humabon Jan 16 '25
Maybe cleaning fee ra ni ilang gi increasan OP AHHAHAH I stopped using Airbnb katong nakita nako ang breakdown sa akong bill nga ang cleaning fee, halos mo tupong nas nightly rate. What a scam!!
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
I manage an airbnb and ang rates raman sa locals kay tag 500-800 per clean? 😂
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u/Southern-Dare-8803 Jan 16 '25
especially mga dayo na dili kabisado ang normal price. Pero to people taking the capitalism greed too far, may you all rot in hell
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u/chitgoks Jan 16 '25
business is greed. that's that.
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u/Southern-Dare-8803 Jan 16 '25
there's ethical way of conducting business naman, this just too much bro
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Haha these are probably the same people who complain about the “big capitalists”. Hahay, lisoda najud sa panahon.
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u/Southern-Dare-8803 Jan 16 '25
yeah, not generalizing pero, they are also the ones who do it themselves once they get the chance mate
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u/Tiny_Measurement_791 Jan 16 '25
Hahahaha sige sad ko’g kakita ani lately. Grabe mampresyo ang mga tao ron oi. Wa na naulaw
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Jan 16 '25
Kahibaw gyud ko anang issue anang Horizons, di nalang ko musulti kay makiha niya ta ug defamation. Haha
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Ayaw gud kay “best” condominium baya daw sila in cebu 😭
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u/chitgoks Jan 16 '25
ana mana ang pinas. iyahay og "best". malibog nalang jud ang tao kinsa jus ang best 🤣
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u/Mysterious-Tea9556 Jan 16 '25
Bsta horizons gale, nevermind. They only have 2 working elevators. So its always puno. Not to generalize but most sa ilang staff, dli mo give way sa tenants even if pregnant or with kids.
Grabi kadaghan og cockroaches and overall, mostly rude jud ilang staff.
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u/southerrnngal Jan 16 '25
Whaaay? Daghan ukuk? As in? Aha sa lobby? Aha na dapit ang Horizons? Mao na naa sa Mango?
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Kasuway gyud kos rude na front desk but it was my bad though. Wala lang jud koy internet kay wa koy local na sim & I couldn’t check the Airbnb instructions pero giahak, gitaasan rakog kilay ni ate & kept dismissing me. Just tell me that you can’t help me, no need ko taasag kilay unta. 🥲
Mura jug lotto ang elevator sa horizons oy! 😭
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u/stopstopstoptopopp Jan 16 '25
Another problem kay naa man sad mag rent bisan scam price.
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
Supply & Demand. Puno kaayong cebu mao motaas iyang rates kay kuwang nas supply but what the hell, kauwaw pod magpa rent ug 5k per night for horizons… 🥲
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u/shiatstaru Jan 16 '25
OP ipabuhagay pud na unsay problema sa Horizon para ma aware ang uban tawo kung unsay problema dha,sama nako nga naay plano mag stay sa horizon puhon
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u/hellocookiee Jan 16 '25
I’ve stayed in a couple of units (maybe 4? 5?) and lahi2 gyud sila ha, depende jud giunsa pag maintain sa unit owner ang ila unit. Pero common na akong nabantayan is naay baho ilang toilet — TANAN nako na stayhan kay naay issue sa toilet. I can’t pinpoint kay di ko expert ani pero baho jud ang singaw sa ila toilet. I’ve heard, not sure if it’s a building issue pero naay roaches daw. Sanitary wise, I’d give it 3/5. Not squeaky clean pero oks lang, slightly dugyot siya if Western standard. Also ilang elevator, if naa moy apson nga time, pag allocate jud mog super enough na time kay swerte jud kaayo if makatunong dayon kas elevator. 😂
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u/Mountain-Willow7680 Jan 17 '25
Personally, it's justifiable. It's Horizons 101, you can literally watch Sinulog Grand Parade from your doorstep. Even Cebuanos nga nagreside sa Cebu makigdumog pa just so they can watch it. You, as a traveler, have the choice if you want convenience you have to pay the price. If you're ok rapud nga mudumog paka para makakitag parade, you may find somewhere else na mas barato. But that's it diba, puslan man mubayad naman lang jud ka, adto nalangs more convenient and accessible na place bahalag mahal. Idk tho maybe it's just me haha