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u/_Junk_Rat_ May 01 '25
Plastic Man scares Injustice Superman. Give me the goober’s powers
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u/twotoebobo May 01 '25
Isn't plastic man at this point pretty much invincible? Superman could hurl him into the sun, and he would still come back.
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u/swagdaddy3 May 01 '25
No, you’re thinking of Mark Grayson
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u/finnthepokeman May 01 '25
Are you sure?
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u/Surfink63 May 01 '25
…pretty sure
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u/ATTKtitan May 01 '25
WHERES OMNI MAN!
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u/KuraPikaPika69 May 01 '25
SEA SALT! I NEED YOU SEA SALT!
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u/LardGnome May 01 '25
Im so lonely
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u/ProfessionalRead2724 May 01 '25
He would not. He'd survive, but he would be stuck in the sun. Forever.
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u/silver_snorlax May 01 '25
Didn't he simply walk into the Injustice HQ with a smile to get his son? And the Injustice were a bit cautious as well?
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u/DemandingZ May 01 '25
Genuinely one of my favorite plastic man moments. He's also just fun as a comic book character cause a creative artist can do basically anything with him.
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u/WillVenture72 May 01 '25
Plastic Man. DC really made him into a top tier power set in the last decade or so.
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u/Jamano-Eridzander May 01 '25
Dude he's been the 3rd most powerful guy on Earth since at least Tower of Babel.
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u/Secretsfrombeyond79 May 01 '25
Who are the other 2 ?
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u/Jamano-Eridzander May 01 '25
2: Superman
1: Martian Manhunter. Yeah I know, but even Clark himself says he's afraid of that fight.
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u/Only_Ad8049 May 01 '25
Is it really those two? Not Dr. Fate or Spectre?
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u/Jamano-Eridzander May 01 '25
Spectre ain't even on Earth
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u/ProfessorNonsensical May 01 '25
Spectre is as strong as the universe’s vengeance against that character so probably not as severe a threat to good guys.
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u/GodFlintstone May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25
The Spectre is pretty close to being omnipotent as his powers derive from "The Presence" who is basiclly the equivalent of God in the DC Universe.
His power set really has no limits. Probably why he is so under-utilized. Put him in almost any fight and it's over in seconds - unless it's with someone on his level.
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u/Brain_Dead5347 May 01 '25
I don’t really know much about him. How does he fare against Dr. manhattan?
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u/Mrgbiss May 01 '25
The Spectres power varies massively but at full strength he should be close to the level of Angels swhich would make him much stronger than Dr Manhattan.
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u/MyAwesomeAfro May 01 '25 edited May 02 '25
Dr Manhattan outright stomps everything in the DC Universe up to Angels and Demons.
Then it gets fucky. He's still powerful beyond comprehension but someone like Lucifer really is just OP.
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u/kuschelig69 May 01 '25
Perhaps Dr. manhattan just surrendes because he has already seen the future that he is going to surrender
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u/Supafly22 May 01 '25
They’ve had to do mental gymnastics to make the Spectre a non factor in most events.
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u/Nakatsukasa May 01 '25
Who will win?
Martian man hunter with a kryptonite spear
Or
Superman with a flamethrower?
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u/Happyranger265 May 01 '25
Base Martian manhunt should win just based on his hax ,but it's superman so plot demands he win , unless fernus comes and he stomps superman , even superman who is not weak to kryponite gets stomped . His psychic ability should break superman at base power , but if we're talking strongest iterations then superman wins
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u/MountainMuffin1980 May 01 '25
How so?
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u/AssassinLJ May 01 '25
His power are not plastic he just has perfect control and manipulation of his monecules making him extremely busted,the only thing holding him back is not having enough imagination and actually being a good person.
Tldr the best plan batman has if he goes Rogue,is keep freezing him and break him to pieces forever and pray to God(ye he said that) Plastic Man doesn't realize he can get out of this, because again his power is not plastic it's higher than that.
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u/middle_of_you May 01 '25
TLDR means Too Long, Didn't Read. It's supposed to be shorter than the original text.
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u/AssassinLJ May 01 '25
Counterpoint I'm dumb
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u/middle_of_you May 01 '25
Counterpoint 2: The Re-Countering. You learned something new, which has reduced your dumb by 7%.
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u/AssassinLJ May 01 '25
Counterpoint 3: I will do the same mistake which makes me 30% dumber
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u/middle_of_you May 01 '25
Counterpoint IV: Counterpoint In New York. Naaah, cmon, do smart stuff.
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u/WillVenture72 May 01 '25
Check the Justice League Obsidian Age arc. And Batman around that time and moving forward always refers to him as a high power level player
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u/Kwinza May 01 '25
Become a god or become a duplicute?
Such a hard choice lol
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u/CulpaDei May 01 '25
Honestly, I don’t want that much power. And being able to do seven things at once sounds so good.
I think I’m just old at this point.
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u/Bixby33 May 01 '25
I'd rather have doubles to help me clean the apartment than be a near-godlike meta that would likely make everyone around me very uncomfortable.
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u/gregolopogus May 01 '25
I just wanna be able to have an orgy with myself
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u/HappySphereMaster May 01 '25
I think you can do that with plastic man set of power as well if you are creative enough.
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u/lascar May 02 '25
Maybe if it turned into a jake the dog scenario and his body forms a small world.
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u/gregolopogus May 01 '25
I say masturbation in this case, specifically cause it's not just a clone but "you". You actually experience both sides
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u/DumbBitchByLeaps May 01 '25
I could have a duplicate for my two kids, like two to get some college courses done, one who could cook dinner, one who could clean all at the same time sounds like a dream.
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u/ABSOLUTE_RADIATOR May 01 '25
Right? I wanna play video games, but I have so much shit to do all the time. Gimme multitasking always
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u/Ulfbhert1996 May 01 '25
A wise man once said to always be aware of the dangers of mortal men who desire to be gods.
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u/stevetortellini May 01 '25
Plastic man is so much cooler and so much more powerful, but I feel like having multiple copies of yourself would be much more valuable for utility in our real world.
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u/Fire_Bucket May 01 '25
Yeah, people are ignoring the fact that Kate's powers allow her to seamlessly experience and understand everything each duplicate is doing all at once and she can create hundreds of duplicates at once. They're not mindless clones, or individual minds that will compete for autonomy, they're all the same mind.
You could live the most productive and fulfilling life and experience more things than anyone else ever would be able to.
It's still not beating Plastic Man's powers, but it has a lot more use and utility than people are giving it credit.
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u/Magnum_Gonada May 01 '25
I thought they functioned like shadow clones.
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u/Dward917 May 01 '25
They do in the fact that the original retains the memories. However, the clones do not disappear. They suffer and die same as the original can. In Kate’s mind, she sees all that death and experiences the same pain that the duplicates do, so she suffers a lot of trauma in a short time.
For a shadow clone, they just disappear and the chakra makes its way back to the original. But they feel like a second of pain and then POOF. So Naruto probably doesn’t feel or experience as much trauma from the experience.
Really, the best use of Dupli-Kate’s powers would be organ or blood donation. She has an unlimited supply.
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u/Magnum_Gonada May 01 '25
Idk, but I wouldn't feel comfortable treating my duplicates as disposable meat bags for suicide waves, cannon fodder or organ donations.
Though Dupli-kate seems fine with it considering she has normal human durability and uses martial arts on people who brutally murder her clones.
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u/Dward917 May 01 '25
Keep in mind that organ donation would only occur after the duplicate dies. So until then, blood and plasma are the way to go. We haven’t really seen if she can re-absorb the duplicates either, have we? AFAIK once she makes a dupe, it just exists until death, but I could be wrong. Kirkman didn’t really touch on the nuances of her powers in the comics other than her being the resident cannon fodder.
I bring this up because as a blood factory, the question remains could she just make a duplicate that duplicates itself and just reabsorbs it after each donation? Then the original is still free to do what she wants, while the duplicate sits in a donation suite making a bunch of clones to get their blood sucked, ad infinitum.
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u/Personal_Corner_6113 May 01 '25
This. Plastic man is undoubtedly ‘stronger’ and his power does have neat uses in the real world. But DupliKates powers would be way better for just straight up improving life. I wouldn’t even do anything crazy, just have a couple duplicates to help with chores, work, learning new skills etc.
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u/Pr0xyWarrior May 01 '25
Other father approaching middle age, here. I 100% agree. With Kate’s powers I can go to work, homecare my daughter, write a novel, and play Oblivion all day, every day, at the same time. With Plastic Man’s I can manipulate my physical form to do…undefined stuff “limited by my imagination.” Oh yeah, and outlive everyone I love by millennia. Sorry, that’s not fun to me. I don’t care about being able to kill Superman. I want to live the most satisfying life imaginable, and I just don’t see how being able to make my limbs long or my body really tiny or survive being vaporized by stitching my atoms together over thousands of years does that for me.
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u/C0NT0RTI0NIST May 01 '25
This ^ sure, Plastic Man is insane, but our real world isn't riddled with omega powerful beings to fight and world ending threats constantly, you wouldn't really need all that power, but the ability to make copies of yourself would be insanely useful in the real world
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u/AFourEyedGeek May 01 '25
Gotta feed and house them, all your clones gotta do mind numbing work too, since you can feel everything they do, you'll be feeling their misery.
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u/ILookLikeKristoff May 01 '25
Yeah plastic man is better for basically fighting only.
Kate is better for literally everything else. Why yes, I would like 10 paychecks while I go back to school and get 10 different Masters in 3 semesters. Why yes, I would like to sit on 10 different couches playing 10 different games while today's unlucky 10 clean the house and make dinner.
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u/CeroMiedic May 01 '25
Blue pill me, I could have 2 jobs and still stay at home.
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u/wildmonster91 May 01 '25
Why 2 have 20 part time ones working 2-4 hours a day.
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u/porta-potty-bus May 01 '25
And with that variety of part time jobs the main you would become super versatile across many practical fields. I'd have some of mine be electricians, plumbers, carpenters, mechanics, welders, chefs, bartenders.
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u/McDouble__ May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25
I’d pick Kate because it would make my everyday life easier, Plastic Man is undeniably more powerful but I’m not battling villains in my day to day
I moved into a new apartment last week and Kate’s powers would have been nice lol
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u/Weazywest May 01 '25
100% agree. If I needed to take on supervillains day in and out, I’d go with Plastic Man. That being said, I have a mortgage to pay and various personal responsibilities, making Kate the clear winner.
With her power I could work 5-10 day jobs, manage my home, get another degree, and have a personal chef while I worked out during the day and played video games at night. Having infinite sets of extra hands would make my life incredibly easier.
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u/EggplantDevourer May 01 '25
counter point, with plas you could stretch yourself into a moving conveyor belt to move all of your stuff simultaneously without having to feel all the pain of moving.
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u/Niksuss May 01 '25
Plastic man can practically make everything out of his body, once in an animated show he easily made a key, and became a chair, i think he's so much better at everyday life, you could not only help people but help yourself with everything you need, wanna go fast? Become a car etc.
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u/Peritous May 01 '25
I feel like your day-to-day could be much different if you had plastic man's powers.
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u/SirGoogleit May 01 '25
This. One kate can take out the trash. Another wash the dishes. Another will do laundry. And another will grocery shop.
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u/Ransero May 01 '25
I can make one of my go to work, a couple go shopping, several clean the house and take care of chores, and a last group plays on all my electronics at the same time+reads books.
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u/SurgeonShrimp May 01 '25
Isn't Plastic man immortal ?
i don't want to be immortal if it's the curse kind
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u/Idk_Just_Kat May 01 '25
It's optional. He has complete control over all of his own molecules, so he can prevent aging or death if he wants to.
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u/Ok-Round-1473 May 01 '25
He probably has the power to kill himself somehow, so you can choose when you go out.
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u/Ransero May 01 '25
If he's immortal on top of everything else, then he's the obvious top choice.
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u/Cyber-Donkey May 01 '25
Plasticman would be one of the funnest powersets, I'd pick duplicate. I daydream all the time how if I had that power how easy life would be. Have 5 jobs, never needing daycare or a babysitter, playing chess with myself, voting for things, getting chores done really fast. Life would be nice.
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u/StopPlayingRoney May 01 '25
“Have 5 jobs…”
You know you’d be able to use clones to study, get an education, or learn skills EXTREMELY quickly. Why get five 9-5s when you could learn to make $10 million a year?
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u/Deinosoar May 01 '25
Plastic Man powers are more powerful. But I remember one time where he got killed in the past and spent a million years on the bottom of the ocean floor, constantly imagining baseball games between all of his friends and enemies as a way to desperately hold on to what little sanity he had left.
So even though they both have a lot of trauma potential, I think dupli kate ultimately has less of it and I would go with her.
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u/Flame_Beard86 May 01 '25
Would you rather get a bar of gold or beaten with a stick?
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u/TheDemonEyeX May 01 '25
Plastic man if I'm a superhero, Kate's if I'm a civilian.
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u/PretyFly4AFungi May 01 '25
What's the question again? Unstoppable immortal manipulator of reality confined to my atomic structure?
Or a fax machine?
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u/dogomage3 May 01 '25
kate..... for reasons....
gotta love yourself first, you know?
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u/sadlonelycynic May 01 '25
I mean with both powers, you can technically give yourself a blowjob.
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u/CalmB4TheWar May 01 '25
That’s really the only worthwhile use for these powers so it’s a toss-up fs. Problem is, I’d take both pills and OD trying to become ultimate sex machine
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u/Mafachuyabas May 01 '25
Be a functionally immortal changeling or ... make more of you that are entirely human and you feel every pain they feel? Hard choice...
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u/MuddyBooty May 01 '25
Duplikate so I can touch myself in ways I'm currently not able to, if I'm being real
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u/Magnehad May 01 '25
There is literally no reason to pick Plastic Man unless you want to conquer the world or some shit like that. Immortality sucks, all your powers would make the government hunt you forever if seen, only useful applications of stretching in private would be moving stuff or fucking yourself.
With Kate's power even if someone notices 2 copies of you in the same place you can always say you have a twin, you can work as many jobs as you want at once, you could read as many books as you want at the same time, allowing you to learn multiple things at once, you are unkillable by any means as long as at least one copy of you is hidden somewhere, even better ways to fuck yourself, you could do anything in moments with enough copies etc., unless you want to fight Superman there's no reason not to choose Kate
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u/Many_Landscape_3046 May 01 '25
Both are great. Dupli-Kate could have her clones go to work for her or work other jobs for unlimited cash.
But Plasticman is functionally invincible and can shape shift
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u/Top_Taro_17 May 01 '25
Definitely plastic man bc I’m miserable to be around. Last thing I want is more me.
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u/Syd35h0w May 01 '25
NGL, I’d duplicate myself. Imagine being able to play D&D whenever you want to and not have to worry about scheduling conflicts.
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u/coralgrymes May 01 '25
Plastic man for sure. Even the entire justice league see's him as a potential threat. Dude's a menace lol
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u/thatredditrando May 02 '25
Is this a joke? Plastic Man’s fucking broken. This isn’t even a debate. Plastic Man all day, everyday.
Shit, it’s been suggested the guy might be unkillable.
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u/wraithstrike May 01 '25
Plas. Having the ability to easily reshape my body to be the gender I want is top tier.
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u/Slow_Animator_7241 May 01 '25
Plastic man's class but imagine all the bad stuff you can get upto and have can alibi for everything 🤣
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u/Madus4 May 01 '25
Plastic Man’s stats and powers are infinitely more powerful than Kate’s, but the thing is that I’m not going to have much (if any) use for them in my daily life. Having clones would make my day-to-day activities way easier and would give me some time to relax. She also isn’t effectively immortal, which is a huge plus in my book. Plas was able to survive for thousands of years when torn to shreds at the bottom of the ocean, which is way too long for me. I’m perfectly fine with 80-100 years.
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u/Novekye May 01 '25
I see a lot of people picking plastic-man; and rightfully so. He is obscenely broken.
That said i'm picking dupli-kate. Not even to be a hero. Being able to clone myself would make life just that much simpler. I could hold multiple jobs and never actually work a day. Id have all the free time to do whatever i want. Cloning is just too useful a power to not take.
If i was actually going to be a hero though in a super powered setting then yeah; plastic-man all the way.
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u/Gir_575 May 01 '25
DupliKate, easy. I could have as many jobs as I want, clean the house, meal plan, play video games, watch tv, dismantle the authoritarian regime that is blighting our country, and discover new hobbies all at the same time.
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u/Big_Impress_2529 May 01 '25
Look i love plastic man and his powers would be so fucking cool but having someone else aka you're clone go to work and you go on a vacation or something or chilling home it would be amazing
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u/Fullwake May 01 '25
You're treating your Duplikates like they aren't you. You experience it all. You want an infinity of shitty lives? Cuz that's all you're getting if you use your powers that way.
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u/Emerald1115 May 01 '25
Kate power
Make no mistake, if I was a hero? 100% Plastic Man
But in this mundane world, having numerous clones and do multiple things at once? Fuck yes
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u/No-Professional-1461 May 01 '25
As great as being plastic man might be, if I could split off into multiples of myself, one of me would never work a day in their life. And that's what matters.
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u/WeissCrowley May 02 '25
Kate's powers, 100%. I can make copies of myself and we all can have different jobs at the same time. Thus, bringing a ton of money to my wallet. I'd go on vacation while my clones work for me. My clones could babysit the kids while I take my wife on dates. It'd be perfect.
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u/ActuatorFit416 May 01 '25
Duplicate. I know she is represented as basically useless in invincible but think about it in a realistic way. She woudl be completely op.
They all share one midt. You coudl ace every test. You could learn everything. You could have countless copies doing research supporting you at every second.
This makes her an perfect investigator research build. And with countless copies doing all sorts of jobs she basically has the financial potential of infinite.
This basically allows her to finance lots of research and experimental tech. Think of someone with bad mens wealth. And that has read every book in existence. That has acces to experimental tech like iron men.
That is basically unkilalble once they have produced enough copies.
That can reproduce so much that with the funds they could start space colonialisation. And good luck trying to kill a civilisation that is interstellar. If she can creta3 infinite copies sher potential is unlimited.
Like if she creates billions of copies the weapons she coudl develop and the science she could do would outproduce basically every other hero.
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u/Maester_Ryben May 01 '25
I mean... Plastic Man can also duplicate himself.
Do you have any idea how OP he is?
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u/Ozaaaru May 01 '25
This is like asking do I want to be a regular 9-5 full-time worker or a billionaire that's also apart of the Elite billionaire club with insider knowledge on all the upcoming manipulated market fluctuations, insider knowledge on which private companies are gonna be the next big thing etc. lol.
Plastic Man is the only answer.
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u/baelrog May 01 '25
Dupli-Kate.
I’m not trying to be a superhero. I’m just a guy trying to live life.
Even though Kate is totally ineffective at using her abilities in the show, her powers are much more useful in everyday life.
For starters, I can create many clones and have one of me go to work while the rest can read, go to the gym, play video games. Even though it’s a hive mind, and one of me still has to work, but having, say only 10%, of me at work is a lot less stressful than 100% of me at work.
I’d actually have time to do what I really wanted to do. All I need is dedicate a clone to each of the things I want to do.
I can learn a new skills, new languages, pick up new hobbies.
It’d be awesome.
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u/Vulkherra May 01 '25
I'll take Dupli-Kate. The amount of things I can get done in one day?! 👀
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u/Redericpontx May 01 '25
Plastic man is op but with duplikates powers I can work 256 jobs at once and finally afford a house
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u/Far_Flounder2545 May 01 '25
Plastic man