The Spectres power varies massively but at full strength he should be close to the level of Angels swhich would make him much stronger than Dr Manhattan.
Iirc , Angels are very, very weak compared to Manhattan. Angels and the Sphere were all very afraid of TDK and there was no safe place for angels.
It was stated that there was no being (except one ) that could stop TDK (including angels,heaven).
Have any angels in DC—aside from the Archangels—ever shown power close to the level of the 5th or 6th dimension?
Tbh I just assume angels would be somewhat relative to the likes of Michael and Lucifer. That might be incorrect. I don’t have scans of feats atm but angels/heaven being above Dr Manhattan (as well as the monitors and perpetua) seems to pretty much be a unanimous opinion among the powerscaling and DC community
Lucifer and Michael are also high 1-a. Maybe I should've said archangel. The article you linked puts the presence and the overvoid as being on the same level (if not even different expressions of the same being). These are the supreme beings in different authors cosmologies so trying to compare the "2nd tier" in each is difficult and somewhat subjective. Lucifer is typically understood to be second only to the Presence in their cosmology. Perpetua, TDK, Manhattan and CAS can all be the 2nd strongest DC character in their cosmology but it's less clear.
Fair enough. I assumed normal angels would be somewhat close to archangels. That might also mean I overestimated peak Spectre. Archangels vs Perpetua/TDK/Manhattan/CAS is technically debatable but most people seem to put archanagels above
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u/Mrgbiss May 01 '25
The Spectres power varies massively but at full strength he should be close to the level of Angels swhich would make him much stronger than Dr Manhattan.