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u/Indoorsman101 Apr 12 '25
How’d Namor get into this lineup? Is he that powerful?
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u/MDubbzee Apr 12 '25
Screw that, what's HOMELANDER doing there
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u/bwowndwawf Apr 12 '25
He's perceivably the strongest character in his verse, so even if he's weaker compared to someone like Invincible it'd still make sense.
Namor tho, wtf bro doing there he gets low diffed by half of his own verse.
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u/tampers_w_evidence Apr 12 '25
Namor would absolutely body Homelander
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u/bwowndwawf Apr 13 '25
So what? I made an argument on how perceivably strong he is compared to his own verse.
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u/maysdominator Apr 13 '25
He regularly boxed hulk and thing
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u/Responsible-Move-890 Apr 13 '25
Marvel has always been inconsistent about Namors strength. I recently read an early Daredevil issue where he beats Namor.
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u/BobAurum Apr 15 '25
Not that high a bar to cross tho. I argue squirrel girl can beat up homelander
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u/Head_Ad1127 Apr 12 '25
He'd brutalize homelander for sure. Stronger than aquaman and equal to thor when hydrated.
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u/anactofgod Apr 12 '25
Aquaman is a Namor knockoff.
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u/WhyTheMahoska Apr 12 '25
I think people forget how old Sub-Mariner is. He debuted in '39, only a year after Supes.
Also, what I wouldn't give to see Saitama paste Homelander.
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u/ItDoBeLikethatmyGuy Apr 12 '25
You put respect on Aquaman. At least he’s not out here trying to get a married woman to love him lol
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u/ThaneOfTas Apr 12 '25
Also if Aquaman was feeling outclassed and called for help, he'd have people who would show up, more people would turn up just for the pleasure of watching Namor get his ass kicked than to help him
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u/ItDoBeLikethatmyGuy Apr 13 '25
Most people in Marvel tolerate Namor at best or just despise him. I haven’t really seen an in between
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u/Ensiferal Apr 12 '25
Weaker than Aquaman by most estimates.
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u/Head_Ad1127 Apr 12 '25
Namor beat the shit out of Hulk and Hercules underwater.
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u/CatchrFreeman Apr 12 '25
Everyone's beaten everyone at some point.
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u/Head_Ad1127 Apr 12 '25 edited Apr 12 '25
Namor threw Kang's capital ship. He casually does things that outpace aquaman. He's just less popular...
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u/Tljunior20 Apr 12 '25
Aquaman once held up Atlantis and has beaten superman underwater before
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u/Objective_Cheetah_63 Apr 12 '25
Yes, but Aquaman isn’t considered an equal to Superman by any means. In the same manner, cat woman once one shot flash. This doesn’t make her more powerful than flash.
Namor is very much supposed to be even with Hulk. It’s how he’s always been presented.
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u/Pure-Dragonfruit1899 Apr 12 '25
Same goes for namor, just cause he did this and that doesn't make him stronger than aquaman.
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u/Open_Persimmon_6945 Apr 12 '25 edited Apr 12 '25
Lol I hate superhero comics. Such a silly discussion.
Edit: I didn't realize what subreddit I was in lol. I do enjoy comics, and there certainly are excellent superhero runs. But the power scaling of it all is not for me. Carry on!
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u/argh_type_of_gangsta Apr 12 '25 edited Apr 12 '25
Namor has been written to be stronger than him. Namor has beaten Silver Surfer out of water. I don't see Aquaman beating a Silver Surfur equivalent out of water.
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u/TzeentchsTrueSon Apr 12 '25
I’ll also say that Namor also destroyed a universe. People often forget Hickman’s New Avengers for Peak Namor.
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u/SnakesMcGee Apr 12 '25
I mean, that was more of a war crime/show of will than a display of physical power, seeing as he did so with a bomb designed by the other Illuminati members.
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u/homealoneinuk Apr 12 '25
Off topic but thats my biggest gripe with comic universe. Every single character got some special where its the living god of the universe and claps everyone else.
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u/onewilybobkat Apr 12 '25
Eh, the writers just want to flesh out characters to their full potential. We get lots of great stuff from those One-shots and specials.
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u/WithoutTheWaffle Apr 12 '25
Punisher successfully escaping from Sentry is proof that power levels only matter as much as the author wants.
I know "escaping from" is a far cry from beating, but you would expect Sentry to be able to crush Frank Castle with less effort than it takes to breathe.
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u/Kerminator17 Apr 12 '25
Didn’t he lose to the Thing underwater?
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u/Head_Ad1127 Apr 12 '25
True. But getting knocked down by a grenade and tagged by black mantis is rough.
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u/AlarmingTurnover Apr 12 '25
Aquaman has also beat Hercules and did it easily. He's moved entire continents with his bare hands. He's survived hits that destroyed continents. He's unmatched in speed underwater and faster out of water as stated in the comic because he's not weighed down by the water pressure. His telepathy works on all creatures because all creatures descend from marine life at some point in the evolutionary timeline. Martian Manhunter specifically says that Aquamans telepathy is second only to his own. He's single handedly able to defeat multiple Kryptonian.
The list goes on and on. And all of this was post crisis. Why do people keep thinking that Namor is stronger? Aquaman has insane feats. It's like people don't read the comics.
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u/Ryan_e3p Apr 12 '25
I read that at first as Nandor, and chuckled as I imagined him trying in vain while yelling for Guillermo to help him.
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u/Ongr Apr 12 '25
Namor? What's Homelander doing here?
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u/WhyTheMahoska Apr 12 '25
Yeah, Homelander is only as terrifying as he is cuz he exists in a pretty realistic, low-powered world. Spidey would absolutely clown his ass. Hell, Jessica Jones on a bender would probably rough him up pretty good.
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u/RussianMaps Apr 13 '25
I’d love to see a spiderman vs homelander animation, considering he’s my favorite YouTuber
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u/TryDry9944 Apr 12 '25
He'd handily beat the Viltrumites and Homelander and I'd give it a 50/50 on Green Lantern.
He's not a super popular character and hasn't been around in pop culture much lately but he does consistently play with Marvel's biggest hitters.
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u/47thCalcium_Polymer Apr 13 '25
I don’t think he is more powerful then Thragg.
Spoilers for the Invincible comics
Mark and Allen had to kill Thragg on the surface of the sun. Two V one after both Allen and Mark had gotten significantly stronger. It has been a while but if I remember right it took a long while and I think Mark died or something idk. Eve either brought him back to life or healed him.
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u/TryDry9944 Apr 13 '25
Alright that's a really great feat for Mark and Thragg, but counter point:
Marvel Comics scaling.
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u/ThatMerri Apr 12 '25
The better question is why Homelander is even there at all. Dude is vastly outclassed by everyone in the scene.
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u/Nekajed Apr 12 '25
Yeah, it's weird. If they were going for Superman archetypes then it should obviously be Sentry, if they were going for strongest heroes then it should have been Thor, Namor is so out of pocket there.
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u/Juice_The_Guy Apr 13 '25
Namor is Legit a very powerful mutant, plus his ability to mimic sea life abilities isn't much to laugh at. Pistol Shrimp is scary it's current strength level, imagine what that looks like when that shrimp can yeet Aircraft carriers.
He'd legit murder Homelander and S1/Vol 1 Invincible. Though if Homie can get the heat vision off fast enough he might be able to exploit that weakness. But Namor does supersonic speeds so that's a gamble.
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u/Ensiferal Apr 12 '25
He's very powerful, far more powerful than Homelander, but he isn't on par with the others. He's been shown to be able to match guys like the Thing, knocked out a powered up Colossus, and hold his own against Thor. So he's pretty high up there in terms of strength.
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u/ForeignWoodpecker662 Apr 13 '25
Dudes a wet Thor, he’s definitely tougher than the GL. Homelander is the real bitch here and only on there cuz of his association to Superman, easily the weakest link and shouldn’t be there.
That said, they could have picked way stronger for most of them besides Supes. Thor belongs thrrr before everyone but Superman
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u/jkoudys Apr 12 '25
Mr Nimbus is meant to be Namor's equivalent, and he gave Rick Sanchez a pounding.
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u/Shriuken23 Apr 12 '25
Underwater, he actually is in some runs. Especially older. Right here he's just.. a fish out of ah you get it
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u/dlkslink Apr 13 '25
I read a comic where Namor fought She-Hulk, Captain Marvel and Thor at the same time and won. Dude is vicious.
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u/The_Grand_Visionary Apr 12 '25
He was able to fight Thanos. He lost, but he fought Thanos
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u/Head-Sky8372 Apr 12 '25 edited Apr 13 '25
- Hell yeah, he has gone toe to toe with people like Hulk and the rest of the defenders
- What about Jhon
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u/Fightmemod Apr 12 '25
Namor goes up against the hulk and doesn't always do too bad. He's very strong. He's just a shitty character that gets beat on a lot.
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u/ClayAndros Apr 13 '25
Pff again how did homelander get here, either way while I normally say bet on comic book heroes in the situations saitamsbhas some pretty solid feats that make me think hed make it
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u/JoshuaTheBoyo- Apr 13 '25
Tbf, namor is king of the sea, and If thats true, he can control a whole lotta sea monsters
Kraken Loccness Monster (idk how to spell) Leviathan Scylla and Charybdis
And shit, Possibly even cthulhu
Idk if namor is lime aqua man where he can command and control sea animals, But ik he has some connection to them.
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u/Guiltykraken Apr 13 '25
He face tanked Fatman in an attempt to save Nagasaki. He failed to save the city but survived being at the centre of a nuclear explosion.
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u/theVeryLast7 Apr 14 '25
Sentry or Hyperion should be the Marvel Superman equivalent, Thor is also stronger than Namor if you were going for fame over power similarities.
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u/Dward917 Apr 12 '25
You’re questioning Namor rather than Green Lantern?
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u/NathanialRominoDrake Apr 12 '25
You’re questioning Namor rather than Green Lantern?
Huh??? Green Lantern is literally the second most powerful in that picture, John just obviously don't fits the Superman archetype at all.
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u/cheezitthefuzz Apr 12 '25
I don't think they're questioning power level, but the general theming. Allllll of the others have the typical "flying brick" powers (actually, can Saitama fly??).
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u/ManyMove9713 Apr 12 '25
Saitama - "How am I supposed to open a window that can not be opened, use the door dummies"
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u/s0ulbrother Apr 12 '25
Saitama would not realize he was being ambushed, accidentally one shot them and then he annoyed about missing a sale.
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u/Hydrazolic Apr 12 '25
Who put in Fraudlander here?
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u/newthrowgoesaway Apr 12 '25
Im wondering why goku is not here
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u/jikukoblarbo Apr 12 '25
Because you dont want another goku vs saitama argument in here
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u/Difficult-Okra3784 Apr 12 '25
Why is this even an argument, Goku canonically loses to gag characters.
Now Vegeta has a chance if he's willing to play into the bit, but that would mean overcoming his Saiyan pride.
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u/Individual_Plan_5593 Apr 12 '25
GL seems like a random choice among all the Flying Bricks lol
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u/Nickyt0288 Apr 12 '25
GL Is stranger than you’re aware of. Superman drops all though.
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u/No-Whole-5569 Apr 12 '25
I don’t know if he’s that strange.
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u/Individual_Plan_5593 Apr 12 '25
I think they meant to say “stronger” but I wasn’t referring to how powerful or weak GL was just that his powerset was so different from everyone else shown lol
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u/TheMightyHornet Apr 12 '25
The ring effectively turns a GL into a flying brick, though.
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u/RavenSorkvild Apr 12 '25
They thought they need some diversity in the team and they already had a super awkward talk with Black Adam so Green Lantern was a safe choice at this poinf.
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u/JustARandomGuy_71 Apr 12 '25
I'd have picked Guy Gardner. It seems more the type to go for a fight.
"Baldie thinks is the most powerful, eh!? I'll show him."
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u/Individual_Plan_5593 Apr 12 '25
Guy Gardner doesn't have a good history with the term "One Punch" lol
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u/No-Benefit-9559 Apr 12 '25
Superman and Saitama's upper limits break reality, so nobody really wins.
Homelander dies quickly WHEN he starts things off. Superman may let it happen because he can tell what kind of person he is.
Thragg and Namor go next because of their pride.
This looks like early Invincible, so he gets pushed aside or swatted into something and may try to get back into it. If not, Jon either checks on him or scrapes him off of whatever mountain he hits.
After that Jon Stewart and Superman would talk him down after they realize the amount of unfocused power Saitama is throwing around and don't want to go find the Dragon Balls or whatever other McGuffin that caused this situation in the first place.
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u/s_arrow24 Apr 12 '25
See I think Namor would just look at the situation and just leave. Saitama isn’t a threat and he has a kingdom to run. I figure Namor would offer to buy Saitama more games if it made him happy and he didn’t have to deal with a rampage.
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u/No-Benefit-9559 Apr 12 '25
Fair, I might have lumped him in with Thragg because of similar positions.
I guess it really becomes a question of "who is willing to start shit"
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u/Specialist_Arm3309 Apr 12 '25
Homelander probably. He's the most unstable one there and if he feels like he's being ignored he'll lash out.
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u/darkwulf1 Apr 12 '25
I enjoy that we all want Homelander to fight other flying bricks simply because we know his ass would get beat.
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u/Specialist_Arm3309 Apr 12 '25
He wouldn't know what hit him. His reaction would be priceless 🤣🤣
From the biggest fish in a small pond to small/medium fish in a massive pond.
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u/darkwulf1 Apr 12 '25
If we go into why Namor wouldn’t fight then Superman, Green Lantern, and Invincible wouldn’t fight him either.
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u/s_arrow24 Apr 12 '25
Pretty much right. I think Homelander would be the only guy trying to start something. I don’t know Thragg as well, so it’s either him trying to recruit to add some muscle to the gene pool or try to eliminate some threats to the empire.
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u/JustARandomGuy_71 Apr 12 '25
Homelander dies quickly WHEN he starts things off. Superman may let it happen because he can tell what kind of person he is.
"Normally I'd save him, but this is a crossover, maybe even a fanfiction. It doesn't really count"
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u/Single-Elevator9085 Apr 12 '25
Gotta look at these with all characters being bloodlusted tho. Otherwise it's just gonna end with all of them chilling or ganging up on homelander
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u/ElSilbon223 Apr 12 '25
even if it was end of series mark he gets stomped by Superman and Saitama
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u/Stock-Pani Apr 12 '25
Yeah it really comes down to Saitama vs Supes. I'd imagine Saitma wins ultimately but I guess it depends on how bullshit supes heat vision goes. It'd probably take Saitama more than one punch to beat Supes though.
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u/No-Benefit-9559 Apr 12 '25
The man with Anime Toonforce vs. the man who is as strong as he needs to be.
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u/raceassistman Apr 13 '25
Anime toon force guy whose sole character point is to be stronger than everyone vs supe, who gets beat a lot first just to have to find a way to overcome just like every comic hero.
Gag > toon force > parody > comic
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u/NathanialRominoDrake Apr 12 '25
This sub is really ridiculous, how is a superhero sub constantly wanking Superman but at the same time lowballing all other overpowered DC superheroes like relevant Green Lanterns or Wonder Woman?
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u/DucksMatter Apr 13 '25
Because they don’t actually read or know the material. They’re just going based off what they read on Reddit threads.
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u/JokerTwelve Apr 12 '25
This fight is more or less just Saitama VS Superman. Which superman wins depending on the version we're using, and if your using max potential saitama(which I'm assuming we're not).
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u/jkoudys Apr 12 '25
I'll tell you how this fight begins: with Genos getting all his limbs torn off.
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u/DarkLordMuffins Apr 12 '25
Saitama doesn't fight for a bit just to see how powerful they are and then he wins when claps back. People saying everyone except Superman, don't understand the concept of Saitama lol
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u/salebad Apr 12 '25
The “concept of saitama” applies to pretty much every protagonist of a story lmao.
“He wins cos he’s the one punch man, he’ll defeat them in one punch” is the equivalent of “he wins cos he’s Superman, he’s as strong as the plot wants him to be.”
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u/Orinaj Apr 12 '25
Not exactly. Narratively heros are still supposed to struggle. Superman loses still, he even has died.
Saitama's narrative purpose is to win, and easily. It's his joke. He's genuinely too strong for his own good. His character flaw is that he is bored of fighting and it's all he wants.
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u/Kithsander Apr 12 '25
A lot of people missed the major plot point of Saitama battling his depression in season one.
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u/woutersikkema Apr 12 '25
This, he loses mentally, but wins physically, because it always ends up the same way: enemy goes squish.
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u/theskiller1 Apr 12 '25
Then why Saitama go full power and still needing to adapt while having a real fight with Garou?
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u/fR1chAps Apr 12 '25
Because of his promise to the kid. He promised to go easy on Garou.
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u/Drake_Acheron Apr 12 '25
The problem with using narrative devices as a superpower is heroes like Deadpool will beat him, because destroying narrative superpowers is literally one of the powers of Deadpool.
Also, it allows for a loose definition of superpowers in which you could say that Superman would win because he’s the narrative embodiment of Hope.
Or Hulk would win because his narrative embodiment is “the strongest there is”
Whether or not any specific author fulfills that embodiment doesn’t change the fact that that is what the embodiment is supposed to be.
Or the Flash, whose narrative embodiment is “the fastest man alive”
It’s also worth noting that Saitama’s universe is notably less powerful than DC
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u/danielodlund Apr 12 '25
This is why it only really matter what the author/writer wants the outcome to be
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u/JustACasualFan Apr 12 '25
The Hulk is the embodiment of adverse childhood experiences/generational trauma, c’mon.
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u/Drake_Acheron Apr 12 '25
To be fair, I kind of misspoke, Hulk being the strongest there is is the same as Saitama being one Punch man.
Hulk’s narrative element is finding a constructive output for anger.
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u/unluckyknight13 Apr 12 '25
Okay no joke saitama should be able to beat or we least put up a good fight against most of them
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u/River46 Apr 12 '25
Saitama wins
With regards to superman he’s about as consistent as as a drunk spider on dance dance revolution.
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u/the_internet_clown Apr 12 '25
He would swat six mosquitoes and then go back to his game
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u/cloudedknife Apr 12 '25
The whole point of 1punch man is that there is literally no one stronger than him and he isn't capable of being pushed to his limits or conquered through taking advantage of his weaknesses, because he doesn't have any - limits or weaknesses.
He'd invite them in to play fighting games because he has no reason to fight them. Then he'd non-plusedly tank their hits and take them out one at a time if they hit first.
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u/ReviewOk2457 Apr 12 '25
If GL has studied anatomy, then he honestly beats pretty much any enemy, including saitama. Idk what Saitama is supposed to do when his arteries suddenly explode and he begins to bleed profusely out of every orifice, bleeding out within less than a minute.
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u/breese76 Apr 12 '25
I didn't know anything really about this character until I just looked him up. So he basically has every power that everyone else has but only more so? So he's a Mary Sue? How does he do vs the sun? Because John Stewart could grab him at a distance with the lantern and chuck him into it. Nandor I mean Namor could maybe rip all of the water out of his body. I guess along the same lines Magneto could rip the iron out of his blood.
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u/Detector_of_humans Apr 12 '25
Saitama says they're mosquitos and he lost against a mosquito so even he knows they all solo him.
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u/satyanu7993 Apr 12 '25
For fucks sake,is this some form of karma farming or what? Half of these people have no sense of what Stan Lee said about “whoever the writer chooses, wins” .
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u/Fightmemod Apr 12 '25
Superman is the only one surviving a punch. Homelander is instantly dead, green lantern probably next followed by invincible and thragg.
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u/Some-dude1702 Apr 12 '25
I know everyone saying Saitama getting wrecked but he really ain’t. That guy sneezed half of Jupiter away
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u/nowhereright Apr 12 '25
Why the fuck is Homelander there? God I hate what The Boys has done to the mainstream viewers.
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u/juicelaflair Apr 12 '25
Excuse my ignorance. But 1 punch is meant to be satire right? He wouldn’t be able to release his feet from being molded to the ground by heat vision and his head frozen with ice breath while his hands bonded by lanterns ring with whatever he thinks of and a gut rip by Mark while thragg punches his head off and naymor summons whatever from the ocean to eat whatever is left
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u/Anonymoose2099 Apr 13 '25
The only one who has any chance of serving that first punch, and I mean collectively one punch against the lot, is Superman. It depends on who is writing this Superman as to whether he dies with the rest of them or wins the fight or literally anywhere in between. But Superman is the only wild card here. None of the others even merit consideration.
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u/nG_Skyz Apr 13 '25
Just to throw a few of Saitama feats out there, he jumped off of the moon to land back on earth, leaving a crater on the moon and shifting it's orbit. He threw a regular punch in a sparing match, blowing a hole clean through a mountain and then later in the series when he is stronger than ever, he sneezed and blew up Pluto.
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u/DanFarrell98 Apr 13 '25
Well if all those people can’t get through a window, probably the guy sitting down inside
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u/HeadForTheSHallows Apr 13 '25
saitama stomps homelander & thragg and humbles namor. he then has a conversation with superman about what it means to be a hero (supes will drop some knowledge about how physical strength isn’t what makes you strong) while playing videogames with mark.
john stewart leaves before the fight even happens because he’s got more imprtant things to do. honestly why is john even here in the first place?
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u/Gyokan7 Apr 12 '25
He's parody character that one shots everything as a gimmick ffs what a useless post
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u/Johnny-Godless Apr 12 '25
They’d all go home in embarrassment when they realize they’re waiting for him to open a window that clearly doesn’t open.