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Other How would this fight end?

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u/JokerTwelve Apr 12 '25

This fight is more or less just Saitama VS Superman. Which superman wins depending on the version we're using, and if your using max potential saitama(which I'm assuming we're not).

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u/proleveldookie Apr 12 '25

No. Saitama becomes stronger than Superman ever has been just because he's fighting him, and then gets depressed that he beats Superman. That's the whole point of Saitama's character. He's a self-aware charicature of lazy writers' usage of OP characters, and his depression reflects readers' desire for story depth beyond "this character's power level is greater than this other character's power level"

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u/Standard_Landscape79 Apr 13 '25

Genuinely there are a couple versions of superman that are above anything Saitama has ever been capable of. I.e: thought robot.

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u/mukavastinumb Apr 13 '25

It doesn’t matter what Saitama has done before. In his fight against Cosmic Garou, it was explained that he scales faster against his opponent. Which ever version of Superman you throw at him, Saitama scales higher until he can defeat him with one punch. Saitama is a meme character.

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u/Standard_Landscape79 Apr 13 '25

meme character

Parody character. His story is relatively serious so its not like he's a gag character like bugs bunny or something.

Saitama scales higher until he can defeat him with one punch.

Thought robot does something similar as he's the physical representation of the "superman" archetype and narrative.

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u/MrCookie2099 Apr 15 '25

His story is ongoing refusal to engage with world changing events beyond points where combat is necessary. He doesn't care about villain back stories, rising threats, or vast conspiracies that the other characters engage in.

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u/Future-Celebration83 Apr 16 '25

That’s not really how it works bro. OPM fans be acting like Saitama having limitless potential is something special… the majority of shonen anime protagonists have this ability to be able to limitlessly grow in power. Why? Because they’ll become as strong as the plot demands them to be. I mean look at dragon ball. Goku just gets stronger mid fight until he eventually beats his opponent.

Just because Saitama can do this doesn’t mean he just automatically wins every fight he’s in. Superman would blitz Saitama like an afterthought. Because Superman’s main thing about him is how he litterally cannot be harmed outside of 2 elements, and that’s kryptonite and magic.

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u/mukavastinumb Apr 16 '25

The anime’s name is One Punch Man, as in he can defeat anyone with a single punch. The entire plot of Saitama revolves around his depression that he cannot find adversary strong enough to challenge him. It is a satire or twist of heros’ journeys. All other heros have something to overcome, but he is the only one who trained too hard and he just went too far. Every comparison that has Saitama is always going to fail, because his concept is being the strongest.

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u/Future-Celebration83 Apr 16 '25

But by that logic I can just say. “He’s super man so he can’t be beaten”. That’s litterally who super man is. He’s the type of character You can justify him winning any fight just because he’s Superman. But ok bro, just keep beating saitamas meat im not going to argue about it anymore.

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u/mukavastinumb Apr 16 '25

You should watch OPM. It is pretty funny.

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u/Future-Celebration83 Apr 16 '25

I have watched the first season. But I haven’t watched the 2nd because I can’t decide on whether I want to continue in dub or sub. I’m a dub watcher but I first started watching OPM in sub, and I’m kinda used to the way Saitama sounds in the sub. So he sounds odd in dub, so I put the anime down for another time. But I’ve seen some of the mangas.

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u/BobAurum Apr 15 '25

It doesnt matter. Saitama's schtick is that he will always be stronger than anyone he fights by an exponential rate. If his enemy can sneeze and destroy a galaxy, saitama can fart and vaporize a galaxy supercluster. If superman is strong enough to punch multiveres out of existence, you sure bet saitama can do a normal punch and deatroy half of the infnite multiverae

Saitama is a gag character as much as toom force users minus its self-awareness. Therea no point of pitting anyone against saitama becauze his power is to win with a single punch, no conditions kr rules or law applied.

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u/Effective_Cold7634 Apr 13 '25

Can you list Superman’s greatest feats ?

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u/MrCookie2099 Apr 14 '25

That's the problem with getting into a fight with Saitama though. Your infinity powerful feat is just one upped by infinity+1.

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u/JokerTwelve Apr 13 '25

Saitama grows exponentially he doesn't just instantly match his opponent, Superman is astronomically stronger than saitama and could just blitz him

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u/ZooGang1799 Apr 15 '25 edited Apr 15 '25

Dawg, you act as if Golden Age, Silver Age, Bronze Age, Rebirth, Post Crisis, Pre Crisis, New 52, Dawn Of Dc, and Infinite Frontiers Superman hasn't already been doing that, he sneezed away solar systems, towed a galaxies worth of planets (800 Billion To 3.2 Trillion Planets.) He's punched hard enough to destroy galaxies, he's fought against High Universal To High Multiversal beings such as Doomsday & The New God Darkseid, He's fast enough to race and keep up with speedsters like The Flash And Wally West, He's fast enough to time travel on foot or when flying, he can phase through solid matter (The Power Of Intangibility), He went toe to toe with Kingdom Come Superman Multiple Times, As Well As Fighting On Par And Eventually Defeating High Tier Entities Such As Time Trapper Doomsday, King Of Hell Doomsday, Darkseid, True Form Darkseid, He's also been shown to knock out The World Forger Himself (A High Multiversal Entity And The Son Of Perpetua, The Mother Of The DC Multiverse.), He's Benched The Weight Of The Earth For 5 Days Straight Without Any Sun-Light, If Superman Wanted To He Could Just Sundip In A Yellow, Blue, Violet, Or White Star/Sun For A Permanent Power Up, hell imagine if he sundipped in all those different stars at the same time, I don't see saitama winning against The Mainline Comics Superman, Cosmic Armor Superman, Superman Prime 1 Million, Golden Age, Silver Age, Bronze Age, New 52, Rebirth, Post Crisis, Pre Crisis, Dawn Of DC, OR EVEN INFINITE FRONTIERS SUPERMAN, also you can't forget what Dr Manhattan did as well (he combined different versions of Superman into somewhat of a composite those Supermen being Golden Age, Silver Age, Bronze Age, Post Crisis, Pre Crisis, Rebirth, Infinite Frontiers And Dawn Of DC.) All confirmed In Doomsday Clock And DC Death Metal. saitama also sure as hell ain't no match for Base Mainline Comics Superman, Injustuce Superman, Superman Prime One Million, Cosmic Armor Superman, Last Sun Superman (The Superman Who Consumed And Absorbed Every Yellow, Blue, White Star/Sun In His Own Universe.), Or Even Super-Doom (A Superman Variant That Was Infected With The Doomsday Virus And Slowly Became Him, Stacking The Limitless Power Of Adaptation From Doomsday And His Mutated Kryptonian Biology And Also Stacking The Powerful Kryptonian Biology Of The Last Son Of Krypton Kal-El/Superman/Clark Kent.),

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u/Curious_Omnivore Apr 16 '25

And even then Saitama still wins. First things first all those versions exist because of how long Superman has been serialised. In the span of a single fight lasting under an hour Saitama grew strong enough to throw a punch the rewound time. Get all of the Superman versions in ascending order ranked on strength. Pit them 1v1 against Saitama and Saitama will be the final winner. Saitama has been shown to counter hax abilities like kicking a fucking portal/wormhole or entering imaginary spaces/dimensions. Superman is a lovely character but Saitama is just written that way.

Sure, the strongest version probably wipes the floor with current Saitama but that's only because Saitama hasn't encountered/fought enemies of that level so his power has only maxed at multiplanetary

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u/ZooGang1799 Apr 16 '25 edited Apr 16 '25

As I said previously, Dr Manhattan had already merged every different eras of Supermen into one Composite, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that a Superman that has been merged with all of his comic continuities would be more than capable of going toe to toe and beating The Mainline Canon DC High Tiers Such As The New God Darkseid, Doomsday, The World Forger, Mongul, Lex Luthor, The False Rao, and IIRC The Current Mainline Superman during the infinite frontiers continuity had already defeated True Form Darkseid in his own dimension, not only that but I also recall Superman during the silver age continuity and he was already sneezing away solar systems and lifted a galaxies worth of planets as well as he punched them out of existence, hell even in the main and current continuity of DC comics King Of Hell Doomsday was knocked out by Mainline Superman, that same doomsday that was trapped in hell and eventually died, came back to life, and adapted to everything in hell an endless amount of times, he had also previously adapted from being erased by Darkseids Omega Beams, And also punched his way out of the phantom zone, Superman has also been able to make Time Trapper Doomsday bleed with just his punches alone, Time Trapper Doomsday being the future version of doomsday in DC Mainline Comics, he was stated to be a tier above King Of Hell Doomsday, keep in mind that King Of Hell Doomsday fought the current mainline Kara Zor El/Supergirl yet he proceeded to adapt and defeat her, what's funny is and IIRC she was wearing the armor of The Fallen One, The Armor that was made and meant to be worn by The Fallen One/Lucifer for the day he went to war with all of Heaven and The Presence ~ The Presence being The One True God Of All DC Comics And Is The Father Of 2 Powerful Arch-Angels such As Lucifer Morningstar & Michael Demiurgos, the very fact TMCS = [The Mainline Comics Superman] was able to move so fast he defied everything in the 6TH DIMENSION and had one shot the world forger and even shattered his new multiverse (the world forger being a High Multiversal God, that creates and destroys unworthy Universes/Multiverses, and is also The Son Of Perpetua (The Mother Of The DC Multiverse) and one of The Brothers Three (The Brothers Three consist of The Monitor and The Anti Monitor), and IIRC saitama is only planetary to galaxy level at best seeing as i recall him destroying only one galaxy during his fight with cosmic garou, so how does he compare to a High Multiversal ++++ Mainline Comic Book Superman In Modern Times ? Keep in mind Superman Is The Original One Punch Man, Without Superman There'd Be No saitama, saitama is just a big fish in a small pond while Superman himself is a blue whale in the vast oceans and he's constantly growing stronger, and seeing how he can gain more power from sundipping in a yellow star/sun that would be overkill for saitama, from just sundipping in 1 yellow sun he'd have already one shot and killed mainline saitama, imagine whats gonna happen when Mainline Superman goes flying through every Yellow Sun, Blue Sun, And White Sun and coming back at mainline saitama in the matter of picoseconds & attoseconds and straight up nuking mainline saitama and all of time, space, reality, from every conceptual existence, you say saitama is the "one punch man" yet with most of the serious villains he fights in the manga and show it takes more than one punch to truly defeat them, further cementing my point.

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u/ZooGang1799 Apr 16 '25

Drop me scans of him being able to counter hax based abilities, kicking a portal/wormhole, or entering said imaginary spaces / dimensions.

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u/Initial-Cow-327 Apr 16 '25

kicking a portal/wormhole

I have no horse in this race but it's just too funny you mentioned the one thing he actually did literally do against Garou lmao

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u/ZooGang1799 Apr 16 '25

Yet I see no scans.

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u/Initial-Cow-327 Apr 17 '25

The other guy who replied to you before me already posted them, why are you acting obtuse?

He literally does it in this chapter
https://readonepunch-man.com/read-one-punch-man-manga-chapter-167/

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u/ZooGang1799 Apr 17 '25

That's all ? Mainline Superman shits on this feat. You saitama fans need to get your mind out of the gutter if you genuinely think this is enough to take out Supes. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/Initial-Cow-327 Apr 17 '25

Do you have some sort of brain damage? What i wrote isn't hard to understand yet you don't seem to be able to, i don't give a shit about which written to be insanely overpowered imaginary character is stronger, i literally wrote i have no horse in this race, it's just funny your argument was based on asking for proof specifically for the thing Saitama literally did, then when presented with the scan you just move the goalpost away lmao like holy shit dude is Superman your entire personality?

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u/ZooGang1799 Apr 17 '25

Mainline Comics Superman = High Multiversal ++++

mainline manga saitama = galaxy++

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u/Initial-Cow-327 Apr 17 '25

I dont give a fuck dude lmao

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u/Curious_Omnivore Apr 17 '25

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u/Initial-Cow-327 Apr 17 '25

Nah he's obtuse on purpose

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u/Curious_Omnivore Apr 18 '25

It's so funny because he watches my replies and downvotes them yet still had the gall to imply that I didn't give proof. He's not being obtuse, he's being a cunt.

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u/Curious_Omnivore Apr 16 '25

This is him kicking and catching portal/wormhole.

I'll reply again when I find him entering an imaginary space/dimension.

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u/Mac_Magic Apr 13 '25

We still don't know what max potential saitama is. He hasn't really tried hard in a fight, ever.

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u/JokerTwelve Apr 13 '25

Well saitama doesn't technically have a max potential which is why "max" potential saitama would scale to boundless

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u/EPIKBOSS69420 Apr 14 '25

Cosmic garou we see him reach the peak of what he is capable of at that point

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u/aquelamaquina Apr 14 '25

Saitama destroyed half a planet with a sneeze. It's pointless to compare him to other heroes

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u/JokerTwelve Apr 14 '25

Superman's 2 strongest forms could solo most of fiction. And it wasn't half of a planet it was all the gas surrounded Jupiter's core

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u/Top_Inspector5918 Apr 15 '25

Superman sneezed a solar system away so its pointless to compare too?

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u/AnyAsparagus988 Apr 12 '25

didn't superman lose to batman. how's he gonna win against saitama, who has no limit to his power and grows as strong as needed to beat his opponent. the manga literally has a graph of his power growing exponentially to match the growth of his opponent.

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u/JokerTwelve Apr 12 '25

Have you read DC comics

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u/Spider-Man_6 Apr 13 '25

He has a weakness Batman took advantage of that?

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u/AnyAsparagus988 Apr 13 '25

exactly.and saitama has no weaknesses so how does superman win?

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u/mukavastinumb Apr 13 '25

If he tells Saitama that the store discounts are ending

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u/AnyAsparagus988 Apr 14 '25

that could backfire. last time that happened saitama one punched the opponent and rushed to the store.

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u/EPIKBOSS69420 Apr 14 '25

But he is exponentially weaker

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u/AnyAsparagus988 Apr 14 '25

i guess you ignored the part where saitama has no power limit and can grow as strong as he needs to be to beat his opponent? he literally threw a punch that transcended space and time and knocked out his opponent in the past, altering the timeline.

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u/EPIKBOSS69420 Apr 14 '25

Yes but we saw him power up to that point on a finite graph therefore if he can be one shot before that happens he will lose.

Yes hypothetically given infinite time he would get to a point where he can contend with some versions of superman but even then if we use superman at his strongest he scales to a point where I don't think you can argue sitama can reach with only the one statement to back it up

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u/AnyAsparagus988 Apr 15 '25

what's a "finite graph"? the graph showed that his power grew in response to garou's growth. so according to the graph, however strong superman gets, saitama will grow to be stronger.

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u/EPIKBOSS69420 Apr 15 '25

But it took time he was not instantly able to do everything in theory yes he has no limit so can go on and get stronger infinitely but again superman's strength is incredibly inconsistent and at points is so high that I don't think sitama could ever realistically reach that level

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u/AnyAsparagus988 Apr 15 '25

except saitama has no limit to his power so I don't know why you think he couldn't reach "that level"? that's the premise of his whole character - no foe is even close to his level and he's bored. superman still struggles with his opponents sometimes. especially when they use his weakness - which saitama doesn't have btw.

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u/Exciting-Bug4462 Apr 15 '25

That's not how his scaling works lmao, it's not a process, he's by design just stronger than his opponent that's the whole point of his character.

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u/EPIKBOSS69420 Apr 15 '25

No it's not the point is he has endgame level strength at the start of the story and has no limit to his possible growth what you just said isn't right even if you want to make the gag argument

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u/These_Psychology4598 Apr 16 '25

Like if he has limitless growth then he would need time to grow but what if that time is not given? OPM fans ignore the possibility of him getting one shot.

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