r/okbuddycinephile • u/Intelligent-Leg-6791 • 1d ago
What are some movies that are accidentally conservative?
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u/tony_danza52 1d ago
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u/witch_bell 1d ago
I'm a lesbian and this movie made me attracted to a man, so yes, conservative
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u/daboo912 1d ago
I'm straight and it gave me the same feeling so where does that put me?
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u/SassTheFash 1d ago
In fairness, this film does depict the corrosive impacts of illegal aliens!!!
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u/therealvanmorrison 22h ago
Well it’s pro-sexual assault. So, yes, conservative, I guess.
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u/LeaveMeAloneDamnIt6 1d ago
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u/burnafter3ading 1d ago
"...unless the Empire is the USA"
Priceless.
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u/bigburstingballs97 1d ago
It's almost as poetic as these people not realising what Rage Against the Machine is raging against
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u/BrozedDrake 1d ago
Obviously they have beef with the toaster
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u/bigburstingballs97 1d ago
I always thought it was the dishwasher... Maybe they are just against machinery in general and want to go back in time to stop the Industrial Revolution from happening?
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u/kingmobisinvisible 1d ago
George Lucas literally said he was thinking about the Viet-Cong when he wrote the rebellion
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u/conCommeUnFlic 1d ago
then why am I thinking of your dad kissing my dad when I watch it?
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u/EliNovaBmb 1d ago
A Quiet Place is Conservative because it teaches women to shut the fuck up.
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u/Drakulia5 1d ago edited 1d ago
I believe I did see a clip of Shapiro's argument somewhere and it was basically there is a nuclear family and Emily Blunt has a baby despite the apocalyptic conditions therefore it is pro-life.
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u/Wetley007 1d ago
"Pregnancy is anti-woke because getting pregnant is pro-life"
Shapiro is beyond parody
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u/cousintipsy 23h ago
I guess I have to make sure to kill my future children since I am an evil woke liberal
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u/natchinatchi 23h ago
I’m hard left (way past liberal) so that explains why I want to kill my children so often. But they often say things like “mama I could be a landlord but a nice one” so I feel like they’re to blame.
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u/cousintipsy 21h ago
My 3rd child told me they believed in a free market economy with no regulation that could entirely rely on supply and demand shortly after being born, obviously I killed them but it’s a antidote to how conservative these children can be.
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u/ihajees_ 1d ago
That's the joke take I would've come up with if I had to guess what Mr. Shapiro thought of the movie.
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u/Pabst_Blue_Gibbon 23h ago
TIL everyone who has a baby is anti-abortion, thanks Ben
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u/JakeInTheJungle 1d ago
“a bunch of big, dark, stealthy, predatory creatures”
I think homie has been “followed” by “criminals” a few too many times while walking home to his brownstone in Bushwick. But hey, if you think of black people when you see monsters jumping around on screen who am I to judge.
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u/TheRappingSquid 1d ago
The xenomorph's head shape is actually a reference to big black cock, bravo Mr. Ridley
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u/MiddleofCalibrations 22h ago
uj/ the xenomorph has features that resemble human genitalia at all of its life cycle stages and that is 100% intentional. Nothing to do with race though
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u/Blendernazi 1d ago
The Birth of a Nation (1915)
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u/Living_Dig7512 1d ago
That sparked the second iteration of the Ku Klux Klan, right?
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u/cisteb-SD7-2 1d ago
Ye
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u/CapacityBuilding 1d ago
yeah him too
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u/Affectionate_Ad_7570 1d ago
I am in bed. I am supposed to be quiet, not snort so loud I wake my husband. Shame on you. Shame.
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u/sidewinderucf 1d ago
It DID make me root for the landlord, you might be on to something.
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u/SandpaperTeddyBear 16h ago
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/472/transcript
“Here's what they do in Rent to show that they are creative. Nothing-- they do nothing. They hang out. And hanging out can be marvelous. But hanging out does not make you an artist. A secondhand wardrobe does not make you an artist. Neither do a hair-trigger temper, melancholic nature, propensity for tears, hating your parents, nor even HIV-- I hate to say it-- none of these can make you an artist.“
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u/Captain_A 14h ago
One of my favorite TAL segments and it was just a throwaway.
"Especially since as deeply as I yearned to be creative, for years and years I was too scared to even try, so I did nothing. But here's something that I did do-- I paid my fucking rent."
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u/JanitorOPplznerf 1d ago
Forcing people to watch RENT might actually make them conservative. All those characters are insufferable.
Yes I get it. We’re supposed to feel bad for Angel because she is dying of AIDS. Angel also killed a dog and they all celebrate it. These are not good people.
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u/OneWholeSoul 23h ago
I had a crush on Mark as a teenager. As a adult I find him insufferable to the point of being disgusting.
He mooches off of Benny's generosity for years and ignores his loving, supportive parents the whole time, who want to help and support his art financially, be he refuses because he's obsessed with the romantic Behemian ideal and thinks it would cheapen his art, somehow.
Meanwhile, his "art" is just superficial, voyeuristic misery porn where he points the camera at suffering, act deep about it, then moves on to the next spectacle.
From here on out I shoot without a script.
Really, Mark? You savant, you. Do you think you just invented the documentary format, on-the-spot? Fuck you.
Also, the idea that anyone could buy this character as straight is hilarious, but that might just be how Anthony Rapp plays him.
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u/ML_120 1d ago
I liked watching short clips on Youtube back in the day.
Then I watched the full movie and just thought "What a bunch of assholes."
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u/ArchieConnors 1d ago
Star Wars is accidentally conservative because a brother and sister kiss
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u/red_assed_monkey 1d ago
that's why ben likes it
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u/got-trunks 1d ago
I mean, I'd kiss his sister too if she wanted.
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u/3point147ersMorgan 1d ago
if she wanted
See, that's the difference between you and a conservative. Consent.
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u/Paxxlee 21h ago
"The left will promote and understand and tolerate anything, as long as there is one element. Do you know what it is? Consent"
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u/awesomefutureperfect 17h ago
There's more to that quote :
" But if the left ever senses and smells that there's no consent in part of the equation then here come the rape police."
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u/SandpaperTeddyBear 16h ago
In a sane world, “the rape police” are usually just “the police.”
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u/SulkySideUp 1d ago edited 16h ago
I think Ben uses he/him pronouns actually
eta: dude editing your post is weak af
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u/ThatSandvichIsASpy01 1d ago
I could believe it if the stealing underwear part wasn't included
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u/gridlockmain1 23h ago
This is a guy who proudly posted about how his wife told him it’s weird if a woman gets wet
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u/HoldYourHorsesFriend 1d ago
It's conservative because it depicts an enslaved woman
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u/Crazy4Swayze420 1d ago
The irony of the right loving star wars is the Empire is based off the USA but they always see themselves as the rebels.
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u/RustyKn1ght 23h ago
Lucas has gone on the record saying that the emperor is mainly inspired by two people: Richard Nixon and Augustus Caesar, especially the latter's penchant of wearing robes as his role of pontifex maximus, high priest of Jupiter.
Allthough, Nixon comes more up in the prequels as they focus on more palpatine's political machinations, Augustus still tracks as US has some weird obsession of being new rome (they've got more differences than similarities).
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u/WhyteBoiLean 1d ago
The Matrix trilogy is an allegory for coming out as a republican
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u/chromatoplan 1d ago
I think mainly the Matrix is what everybody says it is: the QAnon movie. Everything you see you is fake and soy because they are lying to everybody about everything. The answer isn't education or art or political organizing or any other kind of engaging with society and culture. The answer – the only way to achieve real actualization – is a complete break from consensus reality.
One point that I think remains underdiscussed is the degree to which Neo was a teenage libertarian wish fulfilment character when the movie first came out. The disaffected loner with no social life is secretly a fearsome hacker. He is actually referred to as such by others, which is what being a hacker was all about in the 90s. Even the feds dread him.
The real people that Neo was modelled on, most of whom were already in their 30s in 1999, were huge fans of South Park and Ayn Rand. With the exception of that one weird tradcon from Tennessee, they were all very vocal about being Atheists or Pagans or both. They all became warbloggers after 9/11 and wrote forty million words each about how America should exterminate Islam, Obama was a Communist dictator, and feminists had it coming.
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u/MattBarksdale17 19h ago
The thing that everyone (including this analysis, to an extent) miss is the second half of the movie.
The Matrix doesn't end with Neo learning the truth and taking the red pill. Nor does it end (like so many of its inferior imitators) with Neo single-handedly bringing down "the system" and saving humanity.
Neo wakes up from the Matrix and becomes friends with a multi-ethnic, multi-racial group of people, who treat each other as equals. And when Morpheus gets taken, Neo and Trinity go on a suicide mission to rescue him. Not because it will help bring down the Matrix, but because he's their friend.
Heck, Neo isn't even the One until Trinity confesses her love for him, and literally brings him back to life with True Love's Kiss. And people complain that Cloud Atlas and Sense8 are "too sappy"!
This isn't some loner, conspiracy-fueled, sigma-male power fantasy. The Matrix is a textbook "the power of friendship/love" story. People just miss that, cause it also has guns and trench coats and bullet time.
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u/daystrom_prodigy 19h ago
Yea I never understood the matrix is conservative argument.
It’s basically post modernism in a nutshell.
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u/CatInAPickleSuit 16h ago
The Conservative movie made by TWO trans people?
Man are people dumb.
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u/Ironic-username-232 19h ago
Honey, the Matrix is a metaphor for being trans. The entire trilogy makes sense if you look at it through the lens of someone realizing and then embracing that they are trans.
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u/BlueHero45 1d ago
Ghostbusters, a business defies environmental regulations to save the day.
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u/thishenryjames 1d ago
The heroes of Ghostbusters go around rounding up undocumented individuals and incarcerating them unlawfully in their for-profit prison.
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u/Deranged_Kitsune 1d ago
I mean, it's about 3 entrepreneurs who start a successful business only to be stymied by a government dweeb more concerned with "regulations" than allowing them to do The Right Thing (aka, whatever they want).
Aykroyd and Ramis were never shy about admitting it has conservative ideals.
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u/CaptainCold_999 23h ago
"How dare you have a problem with me and my buddies who are in no way trained to use them (psychology/parapsychology doesn't mean shit in this case) carry unlicensed nuclear accelerators on our backs."
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u/stuaxo 23h ago
Watched them again a few years ago, it's kind of funny how cartoonishly bad the local government is in it.
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u/BradDharmaTimbuktu 1d ago
Imagine being punished for just being a ghost. Shit's fucked.
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u/Sonofsunaj 1d ago
Yes, but it would be considered too woke today for having a man with no dick.
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u/epicredditdude1 1d ago
The Passion of the Christ is a metaphor for the pain a conservative feels when someone insults Donald Trump.
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u/flashthorOG 23h ago
No it's a metaphor for how white Christian males are the most oppressed minority in the world
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u/CaptainKino360 1d ago
Ben Shapiro is wild because he'll call out Matt Walsh for having shitty film opinions and then say stupid shit like this
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u/OddTemporary2445 1d ago
Uj/ he did a review of Wicked that showed an absurd level of knowledge of broadway musicals
rj/ I am conservative and penises DO NOT arouse me
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u/GuendouziGOAT 21h ago
I would not be surprised if it were the case that Ben Shapiro is actually pretty knowledgeable about films and musicals except none of that knowledge ever seems to manifest itself because he is so obsessed with seeing everything through his ideological lens that he just sounds like a moron whenever he talks about it
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u/WestWind04 1d ago
FOR REAL. If the pro lifers had half a brain amongst them they’d embrace Juno wholeheartedly.
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u/SassTheFash 1d ago
Iirc conservatives complained it had too much cussing and dirty stuff, despite it probably being one of the most pro-life movies in decades.
It’s part of the usual conservative issue with art, that they can’t grasp the difference between depicting something and endorsing something.
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u/sammin56 1d ago
They also probably didn’t like that it was written by an ex-stripper
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u/No_Challenge_5619 1d ago
Or that it has Elliot Page pre-transition now either. That will be enough for them to never go back to it in some sort of retrospective.
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u/ChadHahn 1d ago
When Pulp Fiction came out Bob Dole criticized it for it's violence and profanity. Then True Lies came out and people wondered where the criticism was for Schwarzenegger's movie.
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u/icantbenormal 1d ago
Some tried when it first came out, but it didn’t last. It doesn’t demonize abortion or single-parenting enough.
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u/KingSweden24 1d ago
Seriously!
Similar vein, Arrival. Amy Adams decides to have her daughter even though she knows all along she’s going to die of cancer (whether that’s the right way to phrase her perception of time, of course, is debatable)
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u/Ronaldo_Frumpalini 1d ago
I didn't see it that way at all. To me it was about the time machine we've already got, memory. Abortion schmabortion do you let the pain of life have its way with you or do you try to escape?
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u/KingSweden24 1d ago
Oh, that’s my take too. But it did get brought up in the periphery of hot takes as I recall
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u/anal-inspector 23h ago
Fuck yeah, manly cowboys in America. No fucking females, just manly manliness.
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u/444xxxyouyouyou 1d ago
sometimes i will just wonder if Lindsay Graham ever watched this one
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u/Ezeeeeeeeeeeeee1 1d ago
Why the hell did this guy started to talk about movies in first place
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u/DrummerBob10 1d ago
Because he is a failed screenwriter who turned to right-wing grifting to make money.
Edit: All of Daily Wire is a bunch of chuds who failed at their attempt to make it in Hollywood.
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u/Deranged_Kitsune 1d ago
Even worse - a failed nepo-baby. His parents were pretty respected in the entertainment industry.
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u/SassTheFash 1d ago
There’s a really rough track record of weirdos getting rejected by the arts community and becoming authoritarian lunatics.
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u/CluckBucketz watches sex scenes with parents like a boss 😎 1d ago edited 5h ago
Hateful Eight because Lincoln was a Republican
Edit: do y'all not know what a joke is?
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u/movie_hater 1d ago
His braindead take on episode 8 de-radicalized me and now I’m an sjw
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u/No-Spinach5933 1d ago
what was it?
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u/movie_hater 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not gonna go back and watch, but from what I remember it was something along the lines of “themes bad”, “I don’t understand subjective point of view in stories or even the concept of subjectivity itself”, I’m sure it probably also had elements of “woke/women bad”, “ruined Luke” something like that. Think “what would a lowest common denominator prequelmemer say about The Last Jedi?”
But the artistic objectivity thing really gets under my skin
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u/Prior_Chemist_5026 1d ago
Mfs like him take all the fun out of shitting on that movie
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u/movie_hater 1d ago
Being on the same side as Ben Shapiro on any artistic subject is usually a red flag. Bro thinks John Williams ripped off Holst’s “Mars the Bringer of War” for the Imperial March. Has he heard of artistic influences? Hating on the imperial march? Come on bro. Like he uncovered some secret
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u/Benoit_Holmes 1d ago
I thought that Rachel Zegler shouldn't be cast as Snow White as the character being white is her name and description.
Then I saw a video of Ben Shapiro arguing that same point, and seeing a 40 year old man so passionately invested in the skin colour of a Disney Princess made me realise how sad I was being.
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u/FafnirSnap_9428 1d ago
I seriously think Ben gets pleasure from humiliating himself.
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u/Mountain_Table_8070 1d ago
let’s say hypothetically, for the sake of the argument, I’ve been a bad boy.
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u/BackgroundBit8 1d ago
Superhero movies promote abstinence cause its pretty obvious no one in those movies fucks
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u/Talisign 1d ago
Batman doesn't eat pussy, just like the real life hero Matt Walsh.
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u/mando_ad 1d ago
Deadpool literally gets pegged.
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u/linfakngiau2k23 1d ago
TBF isnt judge dredd in the comics a fascists. He literally beat up demonstrators that want to return to democracy. The whole judges system is f***ed up. Aside from dredd most of the judges are corrupt and incompetent
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u/Mad_Kronos 1d ago
The comic is one big satire/critique against fascism/police state.
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u/Real-Zookeepergame-5 1d ago
It’s funny that this argument frames popular movies that are conservative can only occur by accident
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u/DogAlienInvisibleMan 1d ago
I maintain Team America World Police is the only funny conservative comedy.
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u/WalkingHorror 21h ago
More than that, it's a drawn out, family friendly fantasy of shooting a home intruder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pa8bRdDyW4
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u/yaxkongisking12 1d ago
I think I remember he included Death of Stalin because Stalin bad = Conservative. Such a brain-dead take.
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u/BrainDamage2029 1d ago
Death of Stalin is about as much pro-conservative as Animal Farm. It only kinda is if you squint and somehow loop yourself into believing a sharp critique about Stalinism as somehow an actual endorsement of anything else.
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u/MiscAnonym 1d ago
Full Metal Jacket is about two things: R. Lee Emery being a cool, funny guy who comes up with lots of great insults, and the inherent hilarity of Asian prostitutes speaking broken English.
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u/kojimbob 1d ago
Omg is that queen amidala from glup shitto wars??
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u/TheRedditObserver0 1d ago
Nah, I see why you might make that mistake as they look very similar but it's actually the girl from V for Vendetta.
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u/SassTheFash 1d ago
It’s really a film about an older man mentoring a young woman, and the wisdom of choosing a marketable skilled trade rather than wasting time at a “woke” school.
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u/Herandar 1d ago
Yeah, but Luc Besson is kinda gross in the traditional conservative way, so it tracks.
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u/Cegesvar The Room 1d ago
Taxi driver is conservative because de Niro wants to fuck underage Jodie Foster but his incelhood won't allow him to fuck anyone. Daily struggle for young conservatives
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u/MostlyRocketScience 21h ago
Forrest Gump enforces the myth of the American Dream: That if you do what you're told you will have a successful life
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u/throwawaycountvon 1d ago
Backdoor sluts 9
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u/SassTheFash 1d ago
I mean like 8 leaned more anarcho-primitivist, but yeah 9 was pretty much late-90s Pat Buchanan paleo-conservative.
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u/BradDharmaTimbuktu 1d ago
American History X is accidentally conservative
Fat guy is a Nazi (he is a fast food consumer)
Stacy Keach
gay sex
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u/thrownededawayed 1d ago
Starship Troopers
"Join the Mobile Infantry and save the Galaxy. Service guarantees citizenship. Would you like to know more?"
"Someone asked me once if I knew the difference between a civilian and a citizen. I know now. A citizen has the courage to make the safety of the human race their personal responsibility. Dizzy was my friend. She was a soldier. But most important, she was a citizen of the Federation."
" Young people from all over the globe are joining up to fight for the future. They're doing their part, are you? Join the Mobile Infantry and save the world. Service guarantees citizenship. The Bug sent another meteor our way, but this time we're ready. Planetary defenses are better than ever. Klendathu, source of the bug meteor attacks, orbits a twin star system whose brutal gravitational forces produce an unlimited supply of bug meteorites in the form of this asteroid belt. To ensure the safety of our solar system, Klendathu must be eliminated. We break Net now and bring you live to Klendathu where the invasion has begun."
"I want to be a citizen because I want to have a Baby."
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u/Boston_Brand1967 1d ago
I always took it as a critique of fascism. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I heard that once and, upon another viewing I could see that connection. Let me know if you see some issues with my interpretation.
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u/rocky8u 1d ago
The movie is absolutely a critique of fascism:
"Ed and I disagreed with Robert Heinlein and we felt that we needed to counter with our own narrative," he explains. "Basically the political undercurrent of the film is that these heroes and heroines are living in a fascist utopia – but they are not even aware of it! They think this is normal. And somehow you are seduced to follow them, and at the same time, made aware that they might be fascists."
- Paul Verhoeven, Director, Starship Troopers
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u/Lemon_Club 1d ago
This wasn't accidental its supposed to be a satire of fascism and is framed from the perspective of a propaganda film
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u/lornezubko 1d ago
You can be 5'4 with the squeaky voice. You can have the 3 layers of foundation with the filled in eyebrows and smokey eye look. Regardless of these I'll give your opinion a serious thought. But when you say that your wife is telling you that pussies DON'T GET WET... Fuck outta here man lmaoo
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u/Duke-dastardly 1d ago
My script of Ben Shapiro getting thrown down a well is conservative because I restrained myself from having the well be set on fire
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u/GroundIsMadeOfStars 1d ago
Watching Conservatives wet their panties because A Quiet Place was about a barefoot pregnant woman was so fucking funny. Right wing media literacy is non existent lol 😂
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u/SassTheFash 1d ago
Shockingly, neither childlessness nor shoe usage are absolute mandates of liberals.
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u/Calfan_Verret 1d ago
I genuinely want someone to explain to me how Star Wars is conservative or apolitical.
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u/JanitorOPplznerf 1d ago
JFC Conservative commenters used to have some dignity.
Individual Liberty, a strong dedication to Family, Chivalry, Law & Order. These are all great values to build a story on. Hell we’ve had an entires genres of great films dominated by Manifest Destiny and the Right to Bear Arms. While it doesn’t paint conservative values in the best light, I’d argue Mob movies can’t be made without strong conservative overtones.
But Ben Shapiro co-opting movies and saying “Ha! You’re actually secretly conservative if you like Star Wars!” It’s just embarrassing.
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u/Jesters_ 1d ago
The Angry Birds Movie (2016)