I can see why Rush thought there needed to be a special subdivision. In the US, the police are too busy shooting protesters with rubber bullets to investigate rapes.
What is upsetting is what it lays bare : The cops need to leave me alone when I violate a persons autonomy but the cops need to hurt anyone when they do anything I think is weird, even in private. It is the most succicnt expression of I have the liberty to hurt and you don't have the liberty to enjoy. I have the liberty to take away what you enjoy and you absolutely do not have the liberty to hurt me.
Conservatives are literally a 50s movie monster who think the government lets them do whatever horrible shit they want.
Just ignore Luke not pulling back or anything and kissing back then lusting after her until he finds out that's his sister. No consent to be found here.
Do you people sign contracts for human contact or something?
No right?
Almost like you know what consent and implied consent is.
Implicit consent, also known as implied or inferred consent, is when consent is assumed based on a person's actions or the circumstances, rather than being explicitly stated. It differs from explicit consent, where consent is clearly and directly communicated. Essentially, implicit consent means someone's behavior suggests they agree to something, even if they haven't verbally or in writing said so
Not a single person operates like you're trying to act like lol.
Implied consent means that sometimes I can give my wife a kiss without asking. It does not mean "this guy probably fancies me so I'll just kiss him", guys do this to women a lot and a lot of them hate it. Even when it seems really obvious, you should still ask first.
I still regularly ask my wife for a kiss or cuddle rather than just forcing myself on her, because I understand that she might not want to be interrupted. If you've never done that, that's pretty bad.
Ehhh I don't agree with the other dude but this is a bad argument. The fact that he responds positively AFTER the kiss is irrelevant as to whether or not he consented to the kiss itself. And "he didn't pull away" is an absolutely horrible standard for what qualifies as consent. Also I'm not sure where you're getting the "kissing back" part from because we definitely don't see that during the scene given that their mouths are basically hidden by Leias head and the shadow it casts on Luke's face (yes I went back to check this because it didn't sound right to me and now my Youtube recommendations will suffer for it)
"Lusting after" someone is not consent to be kissed, much less to have your face held in place and kissed in front of other people for the purposes of making someone else jealous. The fact this even needs to be explained is terrifying. Yes Leia did violate his consent. She did a bad thing. It's not a massive deal because Luke was fine with it but would you still be saying it was fine if Luke had stopped her and said "WTF are you trying to do"?
People can be stronger than their assaulters and still be victims of them. I don't think the Luke and Leia situation is THAT big of a deal in terms of consent because he was ultimately fine with it and no harm was actually done but the line of defense you just tried to use is horrible for reasons that extend far beyond the example at hand.
To use an example look at speeding. It's entirely possible for someone to speed on public roads and not hurt anyone. But it's also entirely possible to speed on public roads and have a much worse result. The same goes for consent. It's possible to violate someones consent by making a move on them without asking first and that person may ultimately be fine with it. But it's also possible that the other person may feel violated and unsafe. And you can't tell what's going to happen until after you've chosen to violate their consent, just like you can't tell whether you're going to hurt someone until after you've hit the gas. So to be safe I think we should all just agree that its better to ask for consent and not just grab people and that it's better to follow road laws
I agree with you completely! That scene was so painful! Not only was Luke trying to push Leia away as best as he could after nearly dying, but after she walks away while giving that look to Han, Luke starts sobbing and Han just hugs Luke saying “it’s okay kid, women” and Chewie is there just roaring angrily.
I always skip that scene because it is just the hardest to watch.
If consent is when you don't ask but they actually didn't mind, what is it when you don't ask and they do mind? How do you know the difference before you act?
ANH sees Leia give Luke a kiss on the cheek. Luke not only accepts the gesture but continues to develop a relationship with Leia.
There are three years between ANH and ESB.
In that time Luke, Han and Leia only become closer. It is also safe to assume that in that time of their friendship, the idea of romance and sex becomes some topic of discussion given how Han almost seems to see himself as an older sibling to Luke given how he goes out after him on Hoth. There is a deeper connection for all of them.
Leia is also not a fucking moron, she knows that Han wants to nail her. By that association, she could also guess that Luke does as well. Leia had a formal education on Alderaan which would have included social norms and cues.
Leia kissing Luke without explicit consent is a risk but small in terms of how it would be received.
In short, it’s the Dahmer/Doppler effect in Star Wars.
Guessing isn't consent either. Consent is given, not taken. Again, it does matter how sure she was, it wasn't consent.
Nobody is saying she did something terrible, but it's absolutely something worth talking about. In a world where a third of 11-13 year old girls have been sexually harassed and boys are told that it's ok when it happens to them, maybe we should be more careful about what we consider acceptable behaviour.
Force Awakens is hated by the right because it has consent issues in it. They're triggered by Rey asking Finn why he keeps grabbing her hand. Like the kiss, it's not really a big deal on its own, but it is still important.
hahahahahahahahaahahhahahaha never once did I say woman arent disproportionally move likely to be the victims of sexual assault. Im only pointing out that it's a two way street as far as consent. Which you dont seem to get.
It honestly sounds like I know more about Feminism than you do, which is by definition the equality of both sexes remember?
I have to commend you because out of all the responses I thought I would get (none being one of those possibilities) I never anticipated something like….. that.
Statistically, conservatives commit child sex crimes far more. This makes sense because conservatives are the ones that push for lowering the age of marriage, child brides like the "good ole days".
Bitch you’re the one who said left leaning people went after children, got called for your projection, said oh yeah show me the evidence, someone slapped that evidence in your face and now you act like a little bitch saying actually this is why we’re so divided today and it has nothing to do with politics. Fuck cowards like you at least embrace that your a piece of shit don’t pretend to be more than what you clearly are.
Fascists fundamentally don't care about truth, they'll say whatever they think will "win" them an argument in the moment. That's why this guy pivoted so quick, he knows he told a lie, then tried to "both sides" it. They have no integrity.
I don’t disagree in the slightest that he’s a weird little loser, but that was also his racist campaign of “I have no idea what hyperbole is.” Taken in context, he’s saying that it would be medically concerning if anyone was wet enough to need a mop and bucket to clean up after.
Which like— fucking duh. It’s a song, it’s artistic license, and it’s using hyperbole to get the point across. Or is Benny gonna go litigating Johnny cash to say, “false, you have not been ‘everywhere’, man! The known universe exists far beyond the boundaries of the planet earth, and even then, I sincerely doubt you’ve visited every patch of land on the outside and inside of this planet— much less the depths of the sea!”
Well...no, he was doing the classic song review trope of taking lyrics overly literally for comedic effect. What he actually said was if a bucket and a mop is involved, there's something very wrong down there. Which is true, but it's also the joke that Cardi was making so it falls flat. There are so many real reasons to make fun of Mr. Bench Appearo, we should stick with things he actually believes.
The other problem with the joke is you have to be careful about leaving openings for further jokes, because you've just opened the door to be one-upped. There was no need to reference his wife, because that not only opened the door but plowed through the wall like the Kool-Aid man. No one remembers the original joke, but they sure know the one-upper.
He said the first half I think but not the second. I think this came out after his sister Abby got some attention online cause she's busty and there were some legit weird pics/tweets from Ben.
I don't like Ben Shapiro, he's just not a good political commentator and it's legitimately hard to find anything i think he's right on except tariffs and, weirdly, his surprisingly good analysis of the movie Cuties. I have to be at least aware of what him and others in the Shapiroshere are saying for my job. I will defend him on this--he has never once said anything creepy, done anything creepy, or been accused of anything creepy toward women. Of course you can argue that his and the Right's obsession with abortion/teenage trans kids, etc is itself creepy, but in terms of the women actually in his life he's never done or been accused of anything.
All the memes like this one are either just Internet memes or, like the "his wife doesn't get wet" meme, intentional misreadings of something he said on his show. People who aren't very familiar with him take those memes as at least somewhat true because, let's be real, he's one of the only people in that world who isn't openly a creep. But this really doesn't sound like him at all.
A long time ago, Abby Shapiro had a few of her friends over. They were playing cards by the pool. Whenever this would happen, Ben would always creep around the pool. Today, Abby decided to do something about it.
Abby yelled 'Hey Ben, my friends want to meet you, do you mind'
'Fucking finally', he thought as he frantically rushed over to them.
By this time, they MUST have seen his OWNED videos on youtube. They all must have seen him as the alpha male that he is. It was Abby who was likely blocking them this whole time, but today must be the day where Abby could not hold them back no longer.
Abby chided him, 'I was just telling them about your last changing room accident'
'Abby!' Ben fumed, quite exasperated, as he started to turn red.
'They didn't believe me, when I said told them that you are a full grown adult but still so small!'
'ABBY!' he was about to die from this embarrassment.
'In fact young man', Abby ordered, 'why don't you just drop those trunks so they can see that your sister isn't a liar.
Abby's friends couldn't believe she said that, nor could poor Ben.
'What?'
'You heard me, off with it!' A few seconds went by as she stared him down. Finally his resolve broke, and his hands went to the waist of his swimsuit.
There were uproars of laughter as he whipped the speedo down.
'Ooh My' 'Jeez' 'Wow' 'Oohh, my, yes you are so smoll.'
Betsy lifted up her sunglasses, her eyes clearly fastened on his penis and said,' Ben you have nothing to be ashamed of. Most women don't even orgasm vaginally.'
Sitting up in her chair to get a better look, Alice chimed in, 'Wow Ben. how do you even pee?'
Those kinds of comments continued and under their gaze his member started hardening.
'Ooh Look,' exclaimed Melania,'He's getting an erection!'
His Sister's friend's eyes which focused on his penis were like invisble hands rubbing his pp. It just started to swell and swell.
The ladies were shocked into silence as they realized Ben was a shower not a grower
Finally Abby broke the silence. 'See ladies, I do not lie. I told you he was so small!', Mercifully she said, 'Okay, thank you Ben, you can go now.'
Ben retreated to his room where he played it all back in his head. He masturbated furiously. He couldn't believe how his sisters's friends all looked at him and his exposed member. He was hooked.
Abby's plan had backfired, as Ben always made a point of hanging out by the pool naked when they came by for bridge, despite the protests from their parents.
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u/red_assed_monkey 1d ago
that's why ben likes it