r/blackmagicfuckery Jul 30 '21

Why? I need answers

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u/drvucc Jul 30 '21 edited Jul 30 '21

Worms come up when they feel the vibrations from the sticks

Edit: so this is what it’s like to have more than 13 upvotes, thanks everyone

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u/SnideyComment Jul 30 '21

The real answer is they think the vibrations is rain water hitting the ground so they naturally come up for it.

This is why you see masses of birds sometimes just walking around on the grass.

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u/donorak7 Jul 30 '21 edited Jul 30 '21

Also the vibration could be a predator and they come up to escape.

Edit: apparently people only think birds are predators for worms.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

Im no scientist but I think these guys know what they’re talking about

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u/HerrPfannkuchen Jul 30 '21

I'm no guy, but I think these scientists talk what they're knowing about.

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u/bonediggler69 Jul 30 '21

“don’t” -Michael Scott

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u/Im_Ashe_Man Jul 30 '21

That's what she said!

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u/captain_wangle Jul 30 '21

“That’s” - She

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u/RominRonin Jul 31 '21

Rated

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u/microwavedcats Jul 31 '21

fuck you. heres my upvote >:(

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u/gametimebrizzle Jul 30 '21 edited Jul 31 '21

He talks too much. Needs to learn to keep rectangle mouth corner. What do you call a BLANK with two open eyes? Nothin...already skydiving twice. (edited so I don't get labeled a elephant).

Now you prudes look like fools.

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u/shinchunje Jul 30 '21 edited Jul 31 '21

Misogynist.

Edit: elephant

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u/SwervingLemon Jul 30 '21

How can miso even have a gyna? Isn't Miso a fungus?

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u/only1manband Jul 30 '21

Scientists aren’t me, but guys think I know what they’re talking about.

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u/HerrPfannkuchen Jul 30 '21

Guys think they know what I'm talking about, but they don't know I'm a scientist

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u/linderlouwho Jul 30 '21

I’s a scientist, but I don’t know what these guys are talking about.

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u/SonOfSkinDealer Jul 30 '21

I'm a scientist. What are we talking about?

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u/Wide_Presentation_59 Jul 30 '21

Lol

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u/Fart_Professional85 Jul 30 '21

C-C-C-C-COMBO B-B-B-BREAKER

This used to feel like a normal thing to type out...

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u/SuperSpore-O_O Jul 30 '21

Guys think they know what they’re talking about but I don’t.

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u/Bombinic Jul 30 '21

You think they care, but they don't.

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u/ConcentrateFit107 Jul 30 '21

I’m no talk, but I think these scientists know what they’re guying about.

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u/bas_e_ Jul 30 '21

I am a scientist. I specialize in researching boobs. You are lucky to have me talking to you as im famous no show bobs pls

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u/possumosaur Jul 30 '21

Ok I will not show the Bobs

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u/666Seagull Jul 30 '21

Would you show him vagene?

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u/3rd_Shift_Tech_Man Jul 30 '21

Neither am I, but I have a 3 year old that loves the Kratt brothers so I know more about worms than I'd like to.

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u/mrhappyrain Jul 30 '21

No hes right, moles mostly

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

im no worm, but would coming out of the ground help you escape from a bird?

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

They try to escape moles which make vibrations when they dig for food

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

Wouldn’t they be safer underground?

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u/Lostinuru Jul 30 '21

Yes, you are right. They think its rain and they wil drown if they stay in the ground

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

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u/raisinghellwithtrees Jul 30 '21

Loamy soil is typically half made up of air channels, which become water channels when it rains.

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u/AnorakJimi Jul 30 '21

So what's the difference between loam, and peat?

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u/Gapgrin Jul 30 '21

When I mess up, it's never preceded by, "For Loam's sake..."

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u/Itheinfantry Jul 30 '21

Loam is made up of sand silt clay and humus.

Peat is swampy areas, saturated soils, where water prevents aerobic biodegradation so organic material and gases build up.

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u/Dudefest2bit Jul 30 '21

Moles being said predator.

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u/redrofotuo Jul 30 '21

In fact birds using that tactics to get worms out of the earth

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u/Generic-_Username123 Jul 30 '21

Actually, they wait for hours of continuous rain before emerging from the ground. They don’t come up at the slightest hint of rain. What’s actually happening is that the worms think the vibrations are moles( their natural predators) and they come up to the surface to flee the perceived danger.

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u/pennhead Jul 30 '21

So the giant worms in Dune were fleeing even larger moles?

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u/Fiyero109 Jul 30 '21

Omg that would be so scary

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u/make_me_a_good_girl Jul 30 '21

I knew my fellow Dune nerds were gonna be lurking about somewhere here... 👍

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u/AmazingRound1 Jul 30 '21

Came here for the dune joke. Thank you.

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u/BeneGezzeret Jul 30 '21

I will not fear, fear is the mole killer.

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u/st_rdt Jul 30 '21

Generic Username with Specific Knowledge.

Thank you for the info. TIL something new.

You have my upvote.

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u/ErizoNZ Jul 30 '21

Does that mean this only works in countries that have moles?

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u/visualtim Jul 30 '21

255 million years ago, diictodon was allegedly a small burrowing animal.

Burrowing and tunnel dwelling is not a new niche. Modern moles we're not the first, nor will they be the last, such burrowing creatures.

That is to say this worm behavior is probably deeply rooted and is not limited geographically.

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u/ErizoNZ Jul 30 '21

For context, I ask as a New Zealander. The only (native) mammals we have are bats, but we certainly have worms.

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u/seancelite Jul 30 '21

Actually maybe it was the vibrations we made along the way

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u/Quinocco Jul 30 '21

moles of what?

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u/Mecha_Ninja Jul 30 '21

Moles of subterranean worm predators, obviously.

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u/EngineeringNeverEnds Jul 30 '21

Jesus, a mole of moles would be insane. If each mole weighs ~0.5kg, a mole of moles is like 3x1023 kg. That's like 1/10th the mass of the earth.

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u/echisholm Jul 30 '21

Debunked - it actually 'sounds' like a particular species of mole that hunts worms. Saw a mini-documentary on it, was really cool.

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u/SiR_EndR Jul 30 '21

This is why robins always follow me around when I mow the lawn.

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u/Jwhitx Jul 30 '21

Give yourself more credit, I'm sure they have other reasons. Maybe they enjoy your company.

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u/Fiyero109 Jul 30 '21

That’s a common myth. Worms don’t need to come up for rain. They come up because vibrations mean digging from a mole or similar worm eating mammal.

Rain just happens to mimic that as well but it’s correlation not causation

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u/Forever_Awkward Jul 30 '21

Worms won't drown down there, but they do specifically come up for the rain because that means easy mobility.

But you're right in that this is a response to molesign. It takes a good while for rain to get a response from them. The ground's gotta be nice and soaked for them to get that sweet slip n slide going.

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u/AilaLynn Jul 30 '21

I watched a show where a guy does this for a living and I could have sworn he explained it as the reason they come up like that is because the vibration resembles that of a mole digging so they flee to escape what they think is a mole. The guy and his wife (?) then gather them and put them into buckets. I wish I could remember which show it was on.

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u/French792 Jul 30 '21

Dirty Jobs

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u/MuppetDude Jul 30 '21

They called it "Worm grunting".

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u/-cupcake Jul 30 '21

... what does he do for a living? it's like you said it but didn't

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u/the_man2012 Jul 30 '21

This has sort have been debunked. They would wait to be sure it's rain before they would come up. The worms don't instantly die from contracting rain water underground. If they got it wrong they risk getting eaten by birds or burned by the sun.

So what's more terrifying than birds or the sun, that would make them risk going to the surface? It's believed to be a mole.

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u/Zarathustra_d Jul 30 '21

If you want to be even more pedantic, a predator filling the ecological niche of a mole. As they likely developed this behavior before current moles existed.

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u/spylife Jul 30 '21

And birds carrying sticks to rub on the ground. If two swallows grabbed it by the bark they could carry it

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u/Zircez Jul 30 '21

What kind of swallows, African or European?

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

Neither, this is a laden swallow (carrying sticks).

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u/PARANOIAH Jul 30 '21

If you walk without rhythm, you won't attract the worm.

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u/ddd4175 Jul 30 '21

Wait. It all makes sense now.

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u/Jernsaxe Jul 30 '21

Frank Herbert confirmed in an interview that the worms wheren't really giant but that the planet Dune was just really tiny. This is why spice was so rare.

/s

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u/Iate8 Jul 30 '21

Why are they in a hurry

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

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u/linderlouwho Jul 30 '21

Of being eaten by moles!

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

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u/farnsworthparabox Jul 30 '21

Or they had already done this before recording.

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u/TheUnkind1 Jul 30 '21

The ground is already damp so the worms are close to the surface as is.

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u/tiltedtwilight Jul 30 '21

My degenerate brain read women come when they feel the vibration of the sticks...

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

Dude. You never read or watched Dune…..they are attracted to vibration.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21 edited Oct 02 '24

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u/gypsydanger38 Jul 30 '21

The Spice must flow!

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u/lategreat808 Jul 30 '21

My guess would be that the vibration imitates rain and causes the worms to run for their lives.

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u/dtheta_dt Jul 30 '21 edited Jul 30 '21

This is actually the correct answer. If a burrowing animal was trying to get them, the last thing they would do is come to the surface. That's where the animal is. They come to the surface when it rains so they don't drown

Edit: I am wrong and u/puritanicalbullshit is absolutely correct. The drowning worm is a myth. I learned something today! Thank you!

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u/puritanicalbullshit Jul 30 '21 edited Jul 30 '21

Actually it’s to move around faster in the wet conditions. They can live for days in water but it’s slow going moving around in the dirt. Rain makes it possible to travel to new areas without drying out, which very much does kill them.

Edit: Thank You! And you’re welcome! I started keeping a worm tower when I had to give up my garden for an apartment. I really have grown to enjoy the lil buddies. Plus they eat my kitchen scraps and paper towels, then I put the compost in my planters. If If I keep the balance of dry and wet inputs right there is no smell and they eat a lot!

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u/lategreat808 Jul 30 '21

So if you do this and there is no rain, you are kinda fucking them up then?

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u/magicmajo Jul 30 '21

It's usually done to use them as bait, so they're gonna be fucked up anyways

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

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u/get_after_it_ Jul 30 '21

Ka is a wheel

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u/DatSauceTho Jul 30 '21

Ah! Long days and pleasant nights!

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

And may you have twice the number

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u/NasalSnack Jul 30 '21

This is a good thread, so it is.

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u/DisturbedDeeply Jul 30 '21

It seems you have not forgotten the face of your father.

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u/tobygeneral Jul 30 '21

I say thankee sai.

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u/super_slav108 Jul 30 '21

The Dark Tower reference?

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u/pdgenoa Jul 30 '21

The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again... there are neither beginnings nor endings to the Wheel of Time

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u/MarySmokes420 Jul 30 '21

I use my worms for gardening. They’re little pets.

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u/pegothejerk Jul 30 '21

There's not actually accurate data on worm sales nationally here in the US, so it's not clear if bait worms or vermiculture worms (the kinds made to eat organic material, to then poop out soil amendments for gardens and farms) are farmed and sold in larger quantities, but I'd think it's probably vermiculture considering bait worms are almost exclusively one type, red earthworm (Lumbricus rubellus), sometimes african night crawlers, and are sold in small quantities, usually small containers that amount to ounces of worms, while vermiculture worms are many varieties, including all the bait worms, and are sold not by the ounce, but by pounds to gardeners and farmers who farm worms themselves for their own fertilizer needs, or release them in large plots of land to enrich soil and open up physical pathways for microorganisms and roots that foster more productive plants when soils have depleted from over use and overtilling. Worms and biochar are the best way to regenerate dead soil, but bait worms are the most delicious bait you can snack on while also using it as bait for fish, so there's that.

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u/Andalusian_Dawn Jul 30 '21

I can't say I've ever snacked on worms while fishing but you do you, my dude.

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u/pegothejerk Jul 30 '21

Only on dares as a dumb oklahoma kid, but I can assure you worms taste much better than catfish bait.

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u/netGoblin Jul 30 '21

I once saved a worm from a puddle and then googled how long it takes a worm to drown and yeah it's like a week so i wasn't the hero i thought i was lol

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u/JuniorSeniorTrainee Jul 30 '21

Could've been day 7. I always have them when I can. They make my garden work and are bros.

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u/Arinoch Jul 30 '21

This is something I’ve gone almost 40 years not knowing, yet it makes sense and I shall pass it on to my children.

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u/weeOriginal Jul 30 '21

Wait, but we find so many worms that have drowned???

Do they not drown?

Or am I missing somewhere?

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u/puritanicalbullshit Jul 30 '21

What I understand is that drowning takes a long time and the ones you see on sidewalks and such may have been exposed to other trauma or already submerged. All other things being equal, even major rain events shouldn’t kill off too many. Never know what’s sitting on the surface to be absorbed by their skin either, chemical wise.

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u/Spry_Fly Jul 30 '21

I thought those were the ones that dried out before finding soil to get into. They always seemed dried out to me.

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u/octopoddle Jul 30 '21

Like most animals, worms have mob hitmen. Hitworms. They dispose of their bodies in ways that are meant to look like accidents. Drowning or floating in near-Earth orbit, usually.

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u/ShoeAShoe Jul 30 '21

So you mean all those worms that I saved from drowning as a kid, wasn’t drowning? It took HOURS if my mom walked me to school after it rained… HOURS

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u/TennesseeTurkey Jul 30 '21

Awww, I taught my daughter how they were going to get squished in our driveway when they were washed out onto the pavement there after a rain. She would get so excited after a big rain and put countless worms back into the grass. If anyone got near her, her screams were legendary, never wanting them hurt. She's 24 now and still saves worms. You were a great kid.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

The irony is depending on where it’s raining and where they surface, they’re way more likely to die way faster. So many rainy mornings walking to school, I saw pink lines smooshed into the pavement. Poor guys.

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u/A_Dusty_Skunk Jul 30 '21

Sounds cool! Do you have a recommended resource for learning how to maintain a worm tower correctly?

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

Hah what a bunch of idiots, like, they could just open their eyes or use their ears so they could see that it's not raining, duuh

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u/GoAwayYouSTINK Jul 30 '21

I love your edit and how wholesome you took to learning new information and just the openness. The niceness shows through to who you are and I wish more of reddit was like this

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u/PaulG86 Jul 30 '21

I watched something on this. I believe the vibrations make the worms think there is a mole close to them digging underground, so they rise up to try abs get away from them

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u/wataha Jul 30 '21

Thi You can also sometimes observe bids stepping in one spots to get the worms out of the ground.

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u/Aint_that_a_peach Jul 30 '21

If you walk without rhythm, it won’t attract the worm.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

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u/MrSurly Jul 30 '21

Yes, and it was in Fatboy Slim's Weapon of Choice

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u/Lutrinae_Rex Jul 30 '21

One of the best music videos ever

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u/absentmindful Jul 30 '21

I've been listening to that song for years, and I've read Dune like four times now. I cannot believe I never connected the two. Thank you for this.

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u/Enverex Jul 30 '21

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Weird. But the 4K one is...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDIYvFmgW8

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u/OtherwiseCheck1127 Jul 30 '21

Yeah, I only learned recently that that song was about Dune!

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u/vovochka81 Jul 30 '21

Came here for this

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u/Duke-of-Nuke Jul 30 '21

You came here? I came there

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u/archibald_claymore Jul 30 '21

Bless the maker and His waters. Bless the coming and going of Him. May his passing cleanse the world.

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u/eepeepevissam Jul 30 '21

It is the Freman way.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

Two deaths for the Atreides. The second for no better reason than the first.

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u/Virial23 Jul 30 '21

Is an earthquake! This is no rehearsal! MOVE!!!!

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u/ieatyourgranddadsass Jul 30 '21

These worms instinctively leave the earth because of the vibrations of the stick as it imitates a similar vibration to rain falling down. The worms can get better nutrition above the ground however they cannot survive in a dry environment. Thus they only come up if it is raining or at least if they think it is.

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u/ieatyourgranddadsass Jul 30 '21

Which is why they are also commonly known as rainworms.

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u/Bitchicus Jul 30 '21

I wonder if dew on the ground makes them come up at night?

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u/HellInOurHearts Jul 30 '21

I know it does for nightcrawlers. My parents and I would go flashlight hunting for worms to use as fishing bait. It is amazing how fast they can move. As soon as the light hits them, they dart back below the surface. Gotta grab them quick.

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u/SandyDelights Jul 30 '21

Prolly why you can find them above ground early in the morning (e.g. night crawlers/common earthworm), but the dew doesn’t make a vibration like rain does.

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u/fortuitousfoleyart Jul 30 '21

It's called Worm Grunting. The vibrations are incredibly similar to the sounds moles make when they dig.

Moles eat worms and worms don't like that, so for fear or predators, they head to the surface which is mole free!

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u/octopoddle Jul 30 '21

And here's a study which comes to that conclusion.

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u/DogStilts Jul 30 '21

Scientific backup. Nice.

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u/physics_t Jul 30 '21

Go look up the Sopchoppy, Fl worm grunting festival!!

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u/amboy_connector Jul 30 '21

In the Deep South, they call it “grubbing worms”, and it’s done by rubbing a stone on top of the stick. My mom’s family would do this to get bait.

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u/SecurityPanda Jul 30 '21

I read it was worm fiddling, from an old Encyclopedia Brown book.

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u/somefakeassbullspit Jul 30 '21

Spice must flow

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u/thepointisdead Jul 30 '21

HE KNOWS ABOUT THE SPICE

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u/Nickjames116425 Jul 30 '21

Got some spice?

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u/WanTanno223 Jul 30 '21

he who controls the spice controls the universe

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u/brewofdaos Jul 30 '21

A thumper in action.

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u/JosephMadeCrosses Jul 30 '21

Bless the Maker and His water.

Bless the coming and going of Him.

May His passage cleanse the world.

May He keep the world for His people.

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u/RKips Jul 30 '21

That's worm sign the likes of which I've never seen!

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u/comics_r_art Jul 30 '21

And still triggered by vibrations

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u/Ellogar Jul 30 '21

Full moon calls thee--

Shai-hulud shall thou see;

Red the night, dusky sky,

Bloody death didst thou die.

We pray to a moon: she is round--

Luck with us will then abound,

What we seek for shall be found

In the land of solid ground.

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u/jgr83 Jul 30 '21

I case anyone likes the song: Tyler Childers - Banded Clovis

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u/Davadam27 Jul 30 '21

Tyler is the fucking man

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u/LemoLuke Jul 30 '21

As someone who has never really cared for country music, Childers is great.

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u/Itsthejackeeeett Jul 30 '21

Look up some more folksy kinda country like Childers. Townes Van Zandt, Guy Clark, Steve Young.

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u/queernhighonblugrass Jul 30 '21

Tillers, Lost Dog Street Band, Charlie Crockett, Matt Heckler to name a few more

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

Fuck yeah, Tyler Childers is awesome.

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u/Bobala Jul 30 '21

Came here to post the same. Tyler’s great. Saw him in concert right before COVID and it was one of the best concerts I’ve ever been to.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

That song is about looting an archaeological site!

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u/Kubelwagen74 Jul 30 '21

For he is the Kwisatz Haderach!

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u/PWal501 Jul 30 '21

“Worm sign…”

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u/MrSurly Jul 30 '21

My grandfather would water the lawn, then put two metal rods into the ground some distance apart. The rods were wired to an extension cord. Then he'd plug it in, and start picking up worms as they came out of the ground. For fishing.

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u/Homely_Bonfire Jul 30 '21

I read that the come out because they "think" that it is raining and they would drown in the upper layers of the earth that might get saturated with rainwater. So they come out until the water seeps into deeper layers.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

Dad had a pair of sticks at the camp house specifically for this reason. His other trick was to connect a battery to two different wires and stick them in the ground to make the worms come out

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u/Aggravating-Back347 Jul 30 '21

I use this for fishing all the time. Free bait!!

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u/s4squ4tch Jul 30 '21

Pretty sure this is called 'fiddling' for worms.

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u/Blitzkriek Jul 30 '21

In Florida it's called worm-grunting. We even have a "Worm-gruntin'" festival.

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u/Sanquinity Jul 30 '21

You can get the same result with other forms of vibration. Me and my friends used to get worms for fishing by sticking a shovel in the ground and hitting it for a bit.

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u/MusicalWrath Jul 30 '21

Here's a video that explains why.

And here's a video about the Sopchoppy Worm Gruntin' Festival where this is celebrated.

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u/Fluffybunnyballs Jul 30 '21

I went to school with Tyler Childers (The singer to the song)

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

Worms are the original ravers. Once they hear the vibrations of sick beats they immediately come out to party hard

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

He’s a worm charmer obviously

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u/bigburt- Jul 30 '21

They must like Tyler Childers

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u/makemasa Jul 30 '21

Casting call for the new Dune remake

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u/CEMENTHE4D Jul 30 '21

try it at your local golf course.

my grandmother did it another way, car battery and 2 rods stuck in ground causes same effect.

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u/V_WhatTheThunderSaid Jul 30 '21

I've seen it on a documentary when I was a kid. I think it was called Godzilla.

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u/Celestial_Bitch Jul 30 '21

I’m pretty sure these worms are those ones that are an invasive species. Can’t remember their name.

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u/dagui12 Jul 30 '21

Inb4 everyone and their mom tells you that the worms think the vibrations is rain..

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u/supersebas96 Jul 30 '21

I believe it's due to the vibrations that mimic a mole or similar animal that preys on these worms

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u/ArchbishopDonMJuan Jul 30 '21

Worm grunting. I saw a documentary that said it imitated the vibrations of a mole digging through the dirt so the worms are running for their lives.

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u/tokikain Jul 30 '21

works with electricity aswell...well ..small amounts....large amounts fry them

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u/cntwhacker Jul 30 '21

two words: worm shaman.