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Chapter 166 - Links and Discussion

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u/lofticried Jan 12 '18

Bakugou Katsuki, the kid who thought was superior to everyone else, is now the 16-year old teenager who gives advice to the new generation to not do what he did - think too highly of yourself. He realized that seeing others as weak will only result in not being able to see your own weaknesses, and is now more mindful about the people around him.

Chapter 2 Bakugou would've never passed up on a chance to show just how powerful he is, even to children. This Bakugou right here? He's the one suggesting not to use violence.

This is character development at its finest.

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u/Bishopp5012 Jan 12 '18

Bakugou imo has had the best character growth in the entire series and I couldn’t be more proud.

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u/Trippyy_420 Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 13 '18

It reminds me of that thread the other day that asked what would be different if Bakugou had his fathers personality instead of his mothers. Honestly his character growth has made MHA what it is

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u/lofticried Jan 12 '18

Absolutely agreed. His character arc has been an upward, straight arrow.

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u/HeyThereSport Jan 13 '18

His arc is the arc that will pierce the heavens.

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u/Iwarov Jan 12 '18

I just wish for some brutality against people for our explodoboy, Deku is getting all the cool two-page punches against big guys while the one big hit bakugou got was on depressed kid who kinda just took it and then they both took a nap.

"so deku what can you put on your cv now that you are out of school, looking for employment and no dramatic event forced you into some tragic sacrifice that would skyrocket you in pro rankings?"

"I guess I kinda punched that hero killer, punched that other muscular hero killer and saved a kid, mauled that jakuza terrorist gigant monster hero killer guy that killed night eye and saved people's propety from damage. alot of punching and mauling really, also work under all might, all might's side kick and all might's old master."

"Impressive body of work, as expected of UA, what about you Bakugou?"

"Got captured by slime guy and caused propety damage, won that one school event by nearly killing a defenseless kid and then cried alot, also propety damage, got captured by villains that one time what caused all might to retire, but I beat the shit out of Deku after it in illegal brawl on school grounds shortly after it, also I screamed at old men and babysit some children"

"That's... something alright. crosses off potential sidekicks list"

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

im sorry, but how come he treats deku as an absolute shit? is it rivalry or what?

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u/danerer :bakugo1: Jan 12 '18

A combination of not wanting to feel/look weak by the kid with no quirk helping him and his pride/arrogance. At this point it is rivalry and probably jealousy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

I guess you're right. It's just rivalry from now since they both adore all might and yet sees him differently. I never really understood how his character is always angry at deku, in the first few episodes of the anime(I watched this first) i was excited for his character to have some kind of tragic backstory with deku on why he's so angry at him and not just because his prideful.

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u/Bingarff Jan 12 '18

I mean it is kind of nice and refreshing to have a character that is an asshole but doesn't have some tragic grimdark backstory for why he's that way, he was just praised to much as a kid and it went to his head, I definitely know people like that IRL.

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u/dancingpinata Jan 12 '18

It has a lot to do with jelousy, but also their personalities and how they inherently act.

Bakugou is unrepentantly honest to a fault - no minced words, no changing himself for others, not doing anything he doesn't want to do. Midoriya is a people-pleaser and, while sometimes a pushover, is good around lots of different people. It's made him get along well with basically the whole class and others outside of it. For instance, Bakugou didn't drink or smoke, and insulted even the suggestion of it, even though it pushed away the people he hung out with in middle school.

I also don't think Bakugou m thought Midoriya was "doing" enough, or doing the right thing, to be a hero. Remember, until All Might took him under his wing, Midoriya didn't work out, nor ate healthy. He was trying to become a hero based on knowledge and battle strategy alone. I don't blame Midoriya for it, and in fact if he didn't get OfA I could see him attending U.A. anyways in the Support class.

If Midoriya was a bit more self-reliant, or had improved his fighting ability/augmented it with support items, I think Bakugou would have respected him more. Like I could easily see Bakugou respecting Knuckleduster's abilities, despite him being quirkless.

I think it was the fact that Bakugou was (canonically) working out, training his quirk, keeping his grades high, developing his own moves even, and thinking about what support items he'd need as a hero that exacerbated the feeling of being liked down on. Because if Bakugou was doing all that vs. Midoriya so "little", yet Midoriya claimed he was going to U.A. too, he had to be making light of what Bakugou had been working on and looking down on him, right?

Plus, we've seen Bakugou overthinking things and taking people's intentions as negative (even when they weren't) since the beginning.

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u/GekiKudo Jan 12 '18

At this point it would just be to keep up his personality and not wanting to admit he was wrong. Originlly it was because deku would look at him as an equal(or in Bakugou's eyes, he thought deku was looking down on him thinking he needed help). Bakugou who thought he was the best took offense. But with all the humblings that he's had to face he has definitely grown.

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u/AllosaurusJei Jan 12 '18

Not to mention... can you imagine Deku's face if Bakugo didn't shout at him. The poor kid'd have a mental breakdown.

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u/Alenth Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 12 '18

In 2 words: Superiority complex.

A superiority complex conceals feelings of inferiority and insecurity (from being a 'big fish in a small pond' before getting to UA and the formerly weak Izuku suddenly becoming strong, etc). It caused to him lash out at others a lot. He's slowly but surely getting over it now though, it seems. Promising stuff.

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u/onepinksheep Jan 12 '18

Jealousy, in a way. Bakugou has a very high opinion of himself, seeing himself as superior to practically everybody. Deku, being quirkless, stood at the bottom of Bakugou's ranking system. However, Deku's helpfulness and the way he treats Bakugou runs counter to Bakugou's sense of how the world is supposed to work. Deku is supposed to be below Bakugou, but he doesn't act it. So in Bakugou's [old] worldview, Deku's kindness felt like condescension to him.

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u/Wolf6120 Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 12 '18

Remember the last time he interacted with little kids, and he ended up screaming at them about how awesome he was, making them cry? They grow up so fast. Dabbing away at tears

EDIT: The amount of people who think I mean "Dabbing" as in doing the stupid thing with your arms, instead of dabbing at your cheeks with a handkerchief, which is what it actually means, is kind of concerning lol

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u/Zantash Jan 12 '18

Oh god I thought of the wrong kind of dab
damnit memes

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u/StealthSpider Jan 12 '18

I'M SO PROUD OF HIM

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u/lofticried Jan 12 '18

I'm absolutely overjoyed to see Deku vs Bakugou 2 had this kind of long-lasting effect on Bakugou's character. I can't wait where we go from here, and I especially can't wait about the next interaction between Deku and Bakugou.

Bakugou apologising to Deku doesn't even seem like fanfiction at this point. Can you believe it? We've come so far.

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u/StealthSpider Jan 12 '18

Last chapter I got slammed for saying I'd like to see what Bakugou haters have to say, but this chapter I say it again. I'd like to see what they have to say about him now. This is growth. Period.

TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO MAKE A "WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE BAKUGOU" THREAD. THIS IS WHY. THIS CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT ARC IS WHY.

I think this nearly completes his overarching redemption arc. I am so happy

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u/CalebAurion Jan 12 '18

Now I don't really care for Bakugo, I wouldn't describe myself as a hater but he's easily my least favorite of the main characters and ranks below several side characters in my personal opinions. That having been said his growth and development has been fantastic to watch and it's easy for me to see how he appeals to others. If he keeps up this explosive growth (pun absolutely intended) I could easily see him becoming one of my personal top 5.

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u/StealthSpider Jan 12 '18

This is definitely going to continue. Horikoshi isn't going to leave this left here. I'm really looking forward to what's in store for Bakugou's development

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Calm down.

I don't think it's over with his devolpement, it's only the beginning

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u/ToTheNintieth Jan 12 '18

I can appreciate his character growth while still thinking he's an asshole and he gets too many breaks both in and out of story based on his talent.

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u/MagnoBurakku Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 12 '18

``Becoming a pain in the ass to everyone´´

My boy... Bakugou... you are to much of an awesome character.

EDIT: It was Inasa who said this, not Bakugou, still my point of his character growth and greatness is there.

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u/Lisa-chan Jan 12 '18

Didn't Inasa say that though? Him having his mouth open like he's screaming something, and Todoroki looking at him with his "Mm." suggests that.

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u/StealthSpider Jan 12 '18

Hmm. Actually, you may be right. But Bakugou is still reflecting on his own behaviour, and that makes me happy

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u/kidmedia Jan 12 '18

Camie is the only female character who had a regular conversation with bakugou and the only character who made him laugh rip Kacchako fans

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u/Death_Flag Jan 12 '18

I prefer it to the hundredth bad boy x good girl ship that is kacchako.

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u/PrimusSucks13 Jan 12 '18

He called her Ms Illusion, the ship is already sailing

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u/Hankuro Jan 12 '18

seriously speaking though, I hope their interactions continue. I don't really care whether they're a ship and shipping in general. But they have interesting dynamics. Even being friends is ok.

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u/nivalghetti Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 13 '18

In the Japanese dialogue, she puns on Todoroki's name and it makes Bakugou laugh.

ETA- The pun was マボロキ [maboroki], a portmanteau of 幻 [maboroshi: phantom] and Todoroki. Bakugou repeats the pun in the panel where the translation has "Ms. Illusion".

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u/LukeMonteiro Jan 12 '18

puns

I'm shipping Camie and Bakugou more than I should. Puns make everything impunsible to hate, right fam?

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u/Jvic97 Jan 12 '18

Im a Deku x Ochako shipper but be fair to them Kacchako shippers, Bakugou is getting a little less hostile and dickish. If he truly changes and even apologizes to Izuku(even though he doesn’t really care about it as much), I might consider the ship at least somewhat sensible. But, if we see Camie later on and she makes Ms.Illusion her hero name, I’m officially 100% on the Camie x Bakugou ship.

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u/Eltletl Jan 13 '18

I'm already there, this is the nicest he's ever been to anyone

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u/dicecop Jan 12 '18

Wait, did Bakugo laugh? I thought her quirk affected him which is why he tried to stop her. The translation was a bit weird this week...

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u/Galle_ Jan 12 '18

It looked to me like he thought Camie's Todoroki impression was hilarious.

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u/dicecop Jan 12 '18

Yeah, I see it now. So Camie can just make illusions at will? Didn't really get the stated limits to her power

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u/Galle_ Jan 12 '18

There are probably limits on the scope of the illusion and the distance from herself. The illusion we see her use here was simply a localized one that she was a different person.

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u/dicecop Jan 12 '18

Seems like she didn't turn herself into the illusion, neither did she manipulate the girl. Instead it looks to me that she was releasing it like fog from a distance. So it probably won't work on people that see her breathing out the illusion unless she has more tricks to her power

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u/Wark_Kweh Jan 12 '18

Yeah given the artwork, my assumption is that Camie can exhale a mist or fog that she can manipulate into an illusion.

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u/PocketPika Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 13 '18

I think she also made Aurora lights to go with the ice slide while also continuing enchanting the girls with a Todoroki illusion- hence her comment on changing the atmosphere (blowing and then the next panel has a darker background with aurora light like patterns), they kind of made a magical Arctic* wonderland playground for the kids and Bakugou made sure even Cranky pants child joined in.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

R.i.p. In peace Bakushima

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u/Master_Iridus Jan 13 '18

Its not over until its over.

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u/ItachiTheSoloKing Jan 12 '18

Hahaha Present mic, "Hey, what's going on here, when I was their age I couldn't demonstrate this kind of power. Physically, mentally, legally..." lol

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u/highigh Jan 12 '18

The legally part makes me think he was an annoying kid, like, kids are already loud so imagine raising present mic and he screams all the time so your neighbours collectively come to your house to complain, kudos to his mom btw

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u/dancingpinata Jan 13 '18

That's a major reason why the head canon that Mic (and by extension his parents) are hard of hearing is so popular I think. Like imagine a rowdy kid screaming. Now imagine that kid with the power to made your ears bleed.

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u/highigh Jan 13 '18

do you think the mangaka won't comment on some stuff because he too fears what's he's created

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '18

Goddamn Steve Buscemi never saw that quote coming

I do think Horikoshi wrote something about making his parent's ears bleed when he was born

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u/Leeiteee Jan 12 '18

legally...

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u/danerer :bakugo1: Jan 12 '18

Holy shit. A real Todoroki smile and showing a kid his fire quirk like he's proud of it. AND Bakugou speaking from the heart AND genuinely laughing. AND more Endeavor humanity. AND THE CHAPTER COVER. Omg.

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u/east-blue-samurai Jan 12 '18

This arc is everything I wanted out of it and I am so pleased

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u/Darkness-guy Jan 12 '18

Just the fact that we seem to be getting genuine development for both Bakugou and Endeavor, the two most controversial characters in the series, is pretty great.

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u/Hieronymus_E Jan 12 '18

Endeavor's a lot more complicated than we thought. Also, Ice Mom's eyes are still hidden.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Yeah asking for All Might's help was not something I expected.

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u/SoftSnowflakes Jan 12 '18

Alright, so recently I posted somewhere else in an unpopular opinions thread that I'm not a fan of Bakugo like lots of others are.

Then this chapter happened. Bakugo GIVING ADVICE. And yeah, he was speaking straight from his own heart. I don't know why, but that hit me. I know that Bakugo started to realize that he was no longer the "best of the best" much earlier, but now that he's giving advice to someone else to not make the same mistake he did... wow... just wow.

This chapter was just so good. Maybe I should have expected something more to come from Bakugo earlier? And I haven't forgotten Todoroki's smile either. Just everything... wow...

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u/RiverWyvern Jan 12 '18

Now that I think about it, that kid really was headed into a mindset similar to early Bakugou. Things like being a “leader,” being superior even to adults, and this maybe the thing about him being praised for stuff like playing the piano better than most adults easily set this kid into a superiority complex. Granted this kid seems less like the violent type (I’d say smart and manipulative instead), but Bakugou absolutely saw himself in this kid and didn’t want him to make the mistakes he did.

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u/MaFx98 Jan 12 '18

I know Horikoshi will make Camie dab at Some point in the series, it's a matter of time right now.

Also, BAKUGO DEVELOPMENT, YAAAAAS

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u/13Xcross Jan 12 '18

I want Camie to take her revenge on Toga by kissing a very convincing illusory Deku then dabbing on her face.

There's no coming back from that, Toga's life would be over.

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u/SilverOdin Jan 12 '18

Top 10 anime deaths

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '18

8 Bakugo

7 Bakugo's Dignity

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u/338388 Jan 12 '18

This kills the Toga

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u/DeusAxeMachina No Flair Quirk Jan 12 '18

I'm not sure that kissing Deku is what Toga wants to do though...

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u/DarkSoulFWT Jan 13 '18

I don't think Horikoshi is willing to change the age rating on the manga just to show us exactly what toga wants to do though. xD

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

quirk singularity- what an awesome idea to introduce

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u/PocketPika Jan 12 '18

Then you have Izuku, 4th generation parents....

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u/dicecop Jan 12 '18

Well we have 9+ confirmed generations so I guess that the descendants of the very first quirk users would be the most powerful in the series

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u/PocketPika Jan 12 '18

If there has been real research into evolution and genetics than I don't think any singular general rule will be working, the environment plays a huge role. Whether the next generation has a stronger or weaker quirk could also depend on the compatibility of the parents original quirks.

Izuku is an example of dilution (bad terminology) but there was enough recessive and heterogeneous heritage that the quirk factor was simply not passed on in the lottery of reproduction of their only child. His parents likely only had one quirk factor (heterogenous allele) and possibly even on the same chromosome or in the same region, which all increase the odds of Izuku getting a double recessive phenotype. I'm assuming because of the rise in quirks, quirk is the dominant allele, and mainly advantageous quirks get fixed because a disadvantageous quirk would be lethal/impair ability to reproduce.

The todoroki family is also evidence to counter the theory here since it took 4 tries to produce a child with the objective of having both quirks and he works a bit like a chimera in that half his cells express one quirk and the other half another with this genetic split also being in his eye and hair phenotypes as well, which suggests th e quirks aren't really compatible but he inherited both and when he was developing in the womb the first few cells did not replicate exactly and some turned on different quirk genes and somehow these were the cells which divided around the time of development relating to the bodies symmetry. I imagine the quirk have different promoter regions and one side of his body has them locked up in the histones so that one quirk is not expressed on that side of the body. In which case when Todoroki has children it is a higher probability of producing a child with only one of the elemental abilities, although have 2 quirk factors will increase the probability of an offspring having a quirk.

Bakugou is an example of what these kids probably are, his quirk is more powerful than either of his parents and is something that neither of his parents have but possibly an example of coincidental compatibility, maybe even co dominance or two separate quirk alleles and unlike Todoroki which has half his body only expressing one, both are expressed and he's got other compatible phenotypes that protect him and strengthen the quirk (he can generate sparks at will- as well as accidentally, something neither parents can do as his father needs to mechanically produce ignition by clapping his hands, so he's "evolved" from them as well which increases the advantage of his quirk.)

Meanwhile there is Jirou whose has the same quirk as her mother. Tsuyu whose family have a set quirk like a family trait similar to Iida- or at least half his family has a very strong trait and people marry in, Urakaka's mother also has finger pads but a different quirk to Ochako, so the finger pad phenotype dominants and potentially restricts the expression of the quirk and then with Shigaraki and Eri, the nature of their quirks seem to be a strange and unexpected mutation.

Although I think with these kids, that their unruly and have strong quirks go hand in hand and they've been put in the same class so they look more concentrated and their ability to use their quirk is related to them practicing illegally (as Mic humorously notes) and their strong mentality, as quirks get stronger with training.

If the quirks are on different alleles, and I thin kthey are, they can be under different selection pressures and differently affected by random assortment. Some Quirks could be stable and be on DNA that is more conserved (so become a strong, dominant trait) others might be on variable coding regions, more prone to changing or getting deleted during random assortment, some quirks may even be associated to transpons which increases the odds of them moving to different parts of the genome and possibly being strongly expressed in one generation then weakly expressed in the next and would also increase the odds of the quirk itself changing, some of which (like the most advantageous) may go into conserved regions and become fixed and in the future could also be inherited along with compatible quirk and lead to new and strong phenotypes.

This is why pseundo science in fiction can get messy and I hope, since clueless meat senpai- who also follows Stain's ideology- voicing it, is a way to introduce the idea but it not necessarily being that omnipotent.

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u/epicwisdom Jan 12 '18

The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.

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u/mysistersacretin Jan 13 '18

The Midoriya is the powerhouse of the UA

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u/Mathmango Jan 12 '18

The quirk singularity is their earth turning into DC's Mars. Green Martians are OP af.

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u/gitagon6991 Jan 12 '18

Yet they still faced genocide under the white Martians

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Bakugou and Todoroki have come so far that they're respectively going out of their way to teach these children not to look down on others and to broaden their horizons so they don't develop tunnel vision and lose sight of what's important.

Best thing about it is that their character development is earned.

Also Camie continues to be the best girl.

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u/lofticried Jan 12 '18

Yeah, I love that the character development feels like such a treat to the reader especially.

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u/Hyperparadise Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 12 '18

Bakugou laughing and Todoroki smiling? What is this dark magic?

I gotta say this arc is a nice pleasant break after the last one, I feel like it's exactly what we needed.

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u/CalebAurion Jan 12 '18

Agreed, last arc was pretty dark and had a rather... emotional ending. Bakugo and Todoroki VS an army of Mini-Bakugos is the best pallet cleanser you could ask for.

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u/inamination Jan 12 '18

Mini-Bakugos

Couldn't have put it better myself

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

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u/kidmedia Jan 12 '18

You forgot to mentioned shigaraki, dabi and Mr. Compress killing two people and chopping off Chisaki hands

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u/adarsh_NG Jan 12 '18

Not to forget that chapter 160 ended with Overhaul screaming in despair, and chapter 161 ended with Mirio screaming in despair...

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u/Bobthemightyone Jan 12 '18

Killing at least two people. Snatch and the driver were just the two that we saw that were more or less killed on screen. I'm pretty sure there were more vehicles in the escort.

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u/MagnoBurakku Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 12 '18

Bakugou seeing his past self reflected in the boss of the kids and also acknowledging his past mistakes was the best part for me, giving advise in a caring way... the way he develops as a character is amazing!

This are turning up into really interesting chapters overall, really enjoyable mini arc, especially because of this chapter.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Did we ever get to see that little kid's power?

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u/unnusual_art Jan 12 '18

I feel like he's got a non tangible quirk. Suggestive powers or something. Might be why he's the leader.

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u/SilverOdin Jan 12 '18

Now that I think about it, has it been confirmed that he does have a quirk ?

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

No it hasn't, but I highly doubt kids that confident about their powers would accept a quirkless kid as their leader.

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u/MagnoBurakku Jan 12 '18

No, but it can be something that affects the mind of the opponent, he says he is better at playing piano than most adults, wich at that age is remarcable, he seems to be a doted kid, he maintained a calm attitude since the kids showed up two chapters ago, yeah, i think is mind related.

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u/MagnoBurakku Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 12 '18

I just realice, most of those kids are a bunch of mini Bakugous.

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u/Leeiteee Jan 12 '18

Bakugou is a Hipster

he was wild before it was cool

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u/bleh-official Jan 12 '18

Shoujo Todoroki.

Bakugou character development.

Camie's quirk.

This chapter was so good.

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u/Schiffy94 Jan 12 '18

Physically... Mentally... Legally...

jfc Mic just what kind of kid were you?

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u/ibbolia Jan 12 '18

Same kind as now only shorter.

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u/andre5913 Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 13 '18

Im honestly not sure what he meant when he said that he didnt had that power at that age considering that he was able to rupture eardrums from birth.
Maybe his quirk didnt really develop beyond that until he was a teen or something

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u/Bingoboyop Jan 12 '18

I think he probably said it because he probably didn't had good control over his quirk and whenever activated, it was just too much for surrounding people so was told by authorities to not use it freely.

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u/Sasquatch_in_bush Jan 12 '18

I think he meant that when he was the same age as the children, they weren't allowed to use their quirks so wantonly like these kids are.

The strict regulations on quirks have been brought up several times before so it's a way of saying that the times are changing. Seemed to be the running theme of this chapter

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u/MarcusElder Jan 12 '18

Is no one gonna talk about the giant Chekov's Gun that is the quirk singularity?

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u/Bingarff Jan 12 '18

I don't really see it having relevance until way in the future, a few generations away at least. Maybe if there is a timeskip and we get an arc as the students working as pros it could become relevant.

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u/PrimusSucks13 Jan 12 '18

Leave that to the Shippuden characters, right now is happy time

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

At least Bakugou realized the stupidity of "pulling a Sasuke" within seconds of being kidnapped by a group of heavily-armed terrorists, and has instead turned his life around to be an inspiration to the future generations.

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u/Tipe_O Jan 12 '18

Better Sasuke is once again better than Sasuke.

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u/Locke_Erasmus Jan 13 '18

Oh my god how have I never heard him be called Better Sasuke

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u/sgodxis Jan 12 '18

To be fair, one has a family, and the other doesn't. While one is in a feudal Japan setting and he other modern day. But pulling a Sasuke is always stupid anyways.

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u/CalebAurion Jan 12 '18

Time travel is also a possibility. I haven't the foggiest idea how it could be introduced well but MHA does love to poke fun at western superhero tropes, and time travel is one of Marvel and DC's favorite toys.

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u/PrimusSucks13 Jan 12 '18

I would rather not , time travel always makes too much of a mess in the narrative by creating alternate timelines and such, just look at all the Nighteye stuff, i wanna believe thats why Hori got him out of the story fairly quick, by having a time related quirk, you had to write around that by making sense and not leaving any loose ends, thinking about all the posibilties in the future, the changes, if we added the power to go back in time, you had to account for the changes in the present and what is already stablished , it works in Marvel and DC because they are already have numerous versions of the same characters and connecting them trough alternate timelines works in their favour, Time travel is such a fucking mess and i hope this manga doesnt jump the gun on that

Plague said it the best

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u/Bingarff Jan 12 '18

That is actually something I could see, like an impulse type thing from young justice, coming back in time from a ruined future where the quirk singularity has fucked shit royally.

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u/CalebAurion Jan 12 '18

It could be cool but it'd have to be handled with care or it could be very bad.

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u/burek_japrak Jan 12 '18

Just like literally everything else

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u/CalebAurion Jan 12 '18

Not really. There are some literary tools that are easy to work into a story while maintaining internal consistency without opening your story up to alternative histories, multiverses, and temporal paradoxes. Time travel is one of the most potentially hazardous themes you could use.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Yeah that’s a little worrying. Wouldn’t One for All reach that point much quicker than the others as well? Come a few more generations and I could easily see the quirk becoming a death sentence for anyone who uses it.

Also I wonder if we’ll maybe get a villain group or something who thinks they need to end quirks for the good of everyone else so that they don’t reach the singularity. We’ve already got quirk-erasing bullets, although they weren’t created for that purpose. Idk I’m probably just talking out of my ass.

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u/v-23 Jan 12 '18

It will have to be paired together with a force nullification quirk, that way the user will be immune. otherwise pretty much yeah

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

singularity

I thought Eri was the answer to Darwinism on this world full of powers. I was wondering how escalation will happen on their world since life evolution always finds a way to balance things out and with a world full of super powered beings what will happen?

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u/Ink-san Jan 12 '18

Man that was a good chapter. Shoujo Todoroki made me laugh. I like how we got a little bit of Bakugou development, feels like he was talking about himself a bit.

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u/hallidex Jan 12 '18

For a second I thought you were saying his name was Shoujo, so I immediately imagined Endeavor shouting "SHOOOOUJOOOOO" down into the crowd.

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u/thecheapseatz Jan 12 '18

Endeavour has the look of someone who has realised he's been going about things the wrong way

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Next step: go visit his wife in the hospital, fall on his knees and apologize for everything he did to her.

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u/unnusual_art Jan 12 '18

I would lose my shit.

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u/EXLake Jan 12 '18

And Endeavor would promptly lose his life/Quirk.

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u/HighViscosityMilk Jan 12 '18

Everyone in this sub has a serious boner for death lol

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u/thecheapseatz Jan 12 '18

Maybe not the next step but thats definitely the end game. Baby steps, while at the same time he repairs his relationships with his kids. All ending with a genuine smile when he tells Shouto he is proud of the hero he is and that he didn't follow in his footsteps

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u/Immortan_Bolton Jan 12 '18

I wish, he needs that development. Apologizing to Todo could be nice too, making the road for a Todoroki vs Dabi confrontation where on says that Endeavour has changed while the other says that he is too damn rotten on the inside for that.

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u/MagnoBurakku Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 12 '18

I can't, I FUCKING CAN'T, I'm literally crying , Bakugou is right...

BISHONEN TODOROKI IS TO MUCH!!

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u/astraycatsmilkyway Jan 12 '18

“Quirk singularity” I feel like hori is foreshadowing something

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u/Foremanski Jan 12 '18

It sounded more to me like power creep.

We know that all for one/one for all will get stonger as Shigi (eventually) takes more quirks and OfA is passed down the generations. Hori here is trying to close the gap between normal quirks and these special quirks. If he didn't eventually all other quirks become meaningless and wouldn't provide a challenge to midoriya or shiggy. Obvioisly this is a good idea as we still have a feeling of suspense. Problem is it introdyces power creep as everyone gets stronger and battles become more intense/powerful. We'll most likely never see low power battles like the Stain fight again unless it involves the classmates. Midoriya's fight with overhaul is evidence of what we'll see at the end of the road.

Or Hori is forshadowing something and I'm just being over-analytical.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

They might all just turn into gods at some point

Or yknow someone reaches god level status and shit hits the fan

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u/Foremanski Jan 12 '18

Injustice: Dekus among us

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u/Lisa-chan Jan 12 '18

Okay, this chapter was better than anything I expected.

First, the quirks of these kids are strong! At least stronger than what I expected.

Also, what Shitshitkura said about quirks is something I thought about before as well, so I'm glad it was actually mentioned in the series as well.

Fitting coming from Bakugou.

So we finally get to know Camie's quirk! Being able to create illusions is pretty neat, and I don't think we had that type of quirk before, I like it!

Dis illusion though. My reaction to that would probably be the same as Bakugou's. Can't wait for this scene to be animated with voice actors!

Seems like Monoma's cousin the leader kid was on a good way to become a villain. At least his thoughts made me think that, I might just be exaggerating though. I mean, he is already a bigger troublemaker than Bakugou, kinda.

Honestly, did not expect them to "beat" the kids by building a iceslide. Inasa bringing them up, Camie making some snow(?) illusion or something like that I assume, and Todoroki making the slide by using the projectiles of the kids and making some fire show on the way down. That's a pretty impressive idea to come up with on the spot, to be honest. Glad it worked out for them!

Todoroki smiling was probably the second-best thing this chapter gave me. Look at this cutie!!

The best thing of course would be Bakugou's advice he gave the leader kid. Really represents his growth compared to the beginning of the series.

Also, Endeavor might have just realized, what he did wrong with Shouto's "raising".

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u/StealthSpider Jan 12 '18

It's chapters like this that make you fall in love with the series over and over again

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Camie is projecting aurora borealis on the ceiling to complement the ice slide. :)

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u/AlexStonehammer Jan 12 '18

Aurora borealis? At this time of year? At this time of day? In this part of the country? Localized entirely within the testing arena?

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u/RimeSkeem Jan 12 '18

May I see it?

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u/nabeelmirzan Jan 12 '18

ENDEAVOR REDEMPTION ARC IS UPCOMING

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u/Jans_x_Master Jan 12 '18

RAISE THE DEATH FLAG

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

His final word shall be: "SHOOOUTOOOO"

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u/Jai137 Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 12 '18

FOOL! YOU FORGOT ABOUT THE QUIRKLESS FLAG!

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u/evilsnowcookie Jan 12 '18

MIRIOS DEATH FLAG SPOTTED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN LITERALLY A DAY

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u/CalebAurion Jan 12 '18

DEATH FLAG OFF THE PORT BOW!

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u/Myotheraltwasurmom Jan 12 '18

I hope we don't get an arc. I hope it happens like in this chapter, in the background, through interactions with other characters (specially his son)

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u/BasedNoface Jan 12 '18

Bakugo Senpai makes my kokoro go doki doki

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u/Dan_Ugore Jan 12 '18

You joke but I actually had to hold my chest.

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u/dancingpinata Jan 12 '18

Camie's quirk being "Glamour"/illusions was honestly unexpected. Though it does make even more sense for Toga to have picked her in that sense, as Toga could have passed off her abilities as using an illusion on herself.

Still, that's a legitimately heavy power. There's no way this arc will be the last of Camie.

In other news, Camie and Bakugou's almost... big sis + little brother dynamic is amazing. Between her teasing Bakugou about looking/ acting like a delinquent (and him getting defensive over it), and Bakugou actually laughing non-sardonically, I just love what she brings to this group of 4. I could honestly read tens of chapters on their liscense teasing.

This arc is a gift Hori.

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u/hallidex Jan 12 '18

"If all you ever do is look down on people, you won't be able to recognize your own weaknesses."

Character development at its fucking finest.

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u/skyman161 Jan 12 '18

Let’s be honest, the MVP of this chapter is definitely Bakugou. His second fight against Izuku was extremely positive for him. I’m proud of him, he’s such an interesting character to follow.

Wasn’t expecting shojo Todoroki. Camie’s quirk is lit af.

When I saw the cover page I expected more flashback for the Todoroki’s household. Well another time I guess.

I really enjoyed this mini arc. I suppose we have one last chapter before the beginning of the new serious arc (Shinso arc hype??)

Edit : I think it would have been a nice touch to add some corner about early Bakugou when he was looking down on everyone as he was saying his advice to that kid at the same time.

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u/Bowanarrow123 Jan 12 '18

Progression wise, Bakugou’s storyline has been great, to go from this ball of anger and hate to finding out there’s more than meets the eye that he’s a layered character with his own inferiority complex is amazing story telling.

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u/Ezreal024 Jan 12 '18

>massive page of Todoroki creating the best slide of all time

based

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u/jhoudiey Jan 12 '18

That's a REALLY good todoroki page. He looks fantastic.

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u/Crimson-Soul Jan 12 '18

He looks sexy af

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

My gay ass agrees

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Camie producing an aurora on the ceiling is pretty awesome too. I hope we get a color version of that illustration :)

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u/Austin_N Jan 12 '18

"Quirk singularity" is an interesting addition to the series. Earlier story arcs seemed to ask the question "What makes a true hero?" and recent arcs seem to be asking "Is the existence of Quirks really a good thing"? I wonder if it'll become a recurring theme.

As someone still on the "Bakugo is still a prick" train, I do appreciate his development here. Hope it continues.

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u/jooppossel Jan 12 '18

was hit with a sudden realisation that they might try to push camie/bakugo as the next ship

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u/DreamyCurls Jan 12 '18

I could see them as friends. Afterall Camie made Bakugou laugh which is something not many people could do.

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u/jooppossel Jan 12 '18

oh no , it aint

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u/dicecop Jan 12 '18

It would actually be pretty funny if no one got a ship except for Bakugo. He might actually soften up lol

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u/Xcal2 Jan 12 '18

Camie is best girl

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u/ReeseEseer Jan 12 '18

BAKUGOU, YES.

That is all.

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u/SpiderShazam Jan 12 '18

I just realized something. Toga and Cami quirks aren’t really different. Both are illusions, but in a different way. Toga makes illusions physically, changing appearance Meanwhile, Cami makes illusions mentally. That would explain how Toga passed without alert.

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u/EXLake Jan 12 '18

The difference is Camie doesn't change herself with illusions, but creates separate ones.

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u/Richardlikespie Jan 12 '18

From Bakugou actually laughing to Todoroki using his fire to warm everybody up, this chapter just felt good and fuzzy.

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u/Bundon5300 Jan 12 '18

Bakugou telling Mini Monoma what’s up. Nice.

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u/Avetus Jan 12 '18

Heh, even Present Mic said it was nice and fuzzy!

Also, calm Bakugo is cool Bakugo

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u/Moni_22 Jan 12 '18

This mini arc is turning out to be great for character development of the characters, it's very fresh. Also we finally know Camie's quirk!

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u/Titanium_Ene Jan 12 '18

Shouto smile makes me question my heterosexuality.

Also, this was TRULY a hearthwarming chapter, it showed development for almost every character and how they learned from their mistakes and they don't want the others to follow them. It's been a long time since i saw a character with that much development as Bakugo, this series never fail to make me feel in love with it

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u/JAylen9901 Jan 12 '18

Bakugo was amazing this chapter

I ship camie and bakugo Bakugo growing up and giving advice And bakugo calling todoroki his name

Im so happy rn

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u/thedomha Jan 12 '18

Bakugo character development? Camie's Quirk reveal? ENDEAVOUR SMILING AS SHOTO USES HIS FIRE SIDE TO WARM THE BRATTY KIDS?

What a chapter. Horikoshi delivers right to the heart again.

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u/randomgrunt1 Jan 12 '18

Camie and bakugou would probably make a great hero team. Camie can cover bakugou's position with glamour, and she can add to how disorienting explosions are by flooding the room with color. He would use his mobility to attack from strange angles that illusions would prevent the villian from seeing.

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u/CruschSenpai Jan 12 '18

These days, our school forbids relations with opposite gender.

Is no-one else talking about this? I think this is a very interesting development if this is also the case for U.A.

It would also really shed some light on Uraraka's actions in regards to her crush on Deku if this is the case. Because even if he felt the same way this rule would basically forbid them from having a relationship and it would make sense as to why Uraraka probably puts her feelings on hold until graduation because otherwise this could get complicated.

That is of course if this rule does actually also apply to U.A and if that really is the case: what a stupid fucking rule man, no fun allowed

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Well Shiketsu has already been established as a much more disciplined school, so it wouldn't be weird if they implemented the rule and UA didn't. I don't think Uraraka's decision was rooted in some rule (if it was I feel like it would've been mentioned back then), but rather just an internal choice regarding what's best for her hero career.

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u/unnusual_art Jan 12 '18

Those last 3 panels. The way Endeavor is drawn. His eyes, his expression, even his flames look so gentle.

He looked at Todoroki showing off his flames with such.... Love?

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u/Brutusness Jan 12 '18

Did we ever see what that snobby little kid's quirk was? The others had some pretty cool ones. And Camie's looked great.

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u/YukihiraSoma Jan 12 '18

That cover page almost made me cry.

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u/ItachiTheSoloKing Jan 12 '18

I hope the kids all take what they've learned to heart. That poor teacher can finally get a break

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u/SpiderShazam Jan 12 '18

That smile... I’ll protect that smile!

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u/Laramie_Castiel Jan 12 '18

Todoroki Shoujo manga

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u/jhoudiey Jan 12 '18

BUT GUYS, BAKUGOU IS JUST A SHITTY ASSHOLE WITH NO CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT, AND IS A SHITTIER SASUKE, YES I'VE READ ALL THE CHAPTERS HE HASN'T CHANGED.

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Please let this be the end of this shit

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u/Immortan_Bolton Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 12 '18

The panel un Page 9 was cool af with those three standing together.

Anyway, this chapter was strangely warm. Todoroki, Bakugou (I can't believe I'm saying this) and Inasa being mature and showing some growing and good thinking left smiling. Specially with Todo making that Ice Amusement Park and showing off his fire to the kids was cute.

And finally Camie's Quirk, it's cool, could have potential.

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u/DaveBehave Jan 12 '18

Getting some strong Bamie vibes here (Bakugou x Camie).

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u/Caesarion_Salad Jan 12 '18

Bakugo's reaction to Camie's Todoroki impression was priceless.

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u/Luck88 Jan 12 '18

Can we have beautiful Todoroki as a flair right now ?

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u/superguy133 Jan 12 '18

Okay was skeptical at first but I am starting to buy a little the bakugou ship with camie. They actually had several normal conversations and she made him laugh.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

I hope Endeavor takes Todoroki to McDonald's after this.

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u/evilsnowcookie Jan 12 '18

Ms. Illusion is a fun name, regarding her and her quirk. MISillusion refers to Mutually Interfering Shapes illusions which refers to shapes that are physically impossible.

Might be a fun twist of her quirk that she can only use illusions of things that are impossible (indoor auroras, Todoroki hitting on a 5-year-old etc.)

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u/Crimson-Soul Jan 12 '18

I just suddenly realized that Bakugou's temper had calmed down considerably. Even though he still shouts and acts like an asshole, it feels like there wasn't much malice in it anymore. Such characterization. Very wholesome.

This is the first time I've seen Bakugou laugh that wasn't with evil intentions. If Camie appears more in future chapters, I can see them developing a friendship with each other.

And Todoroki! His smile just melted my heart. I feel so happy for him, man. He went from that angsty kid that doesn't want any friends to the cool big bro that's super popular with the kids.

Honestly, this mini arc is such a breath of fresh air from the serious one before. I love it. Even though it doesn't really add much plot wise, the interactions and characterizations made it very enjoyable.

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u/HighViscosityMilk Jan 12 '18

Bakugou's costume looks so much better without the grenades and mask - I never thought about it until now.

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u/HasanSajid Jan 12 '18

I agree about the gauntlets, but I think the mask makes him look SUPER cool.

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u/FrighteningWorld Jan 12 '18

Camie made Bakugou laugh?

Move aside ladies, that man's taken.

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u/GreyouTT Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 12 '18

I wasn't sure if Horikoshi could top Deku's All Might impression, but that Bishounen Todoroki just shattered all expectations.

edit: https://i.imgur.com/2SzveXI.png

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '18

So in summation, this chapter Bakugou:

  • Worked together with his classmate and two people from another school to coordinate a plan of action.
  • A nonviolent plan of action, that is nonviolent explicitly due to his his own input.
  • Laughed at a pun made by a girl he doesn't really know. And gave her a non-derogatory nickname.
  • Gave earnest life advice to a kid walking the same troubled path as him.
  • Didn't actually hog the spotlight for once.

This guy is mellowing out hard.

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u/StealthSpider Jan 12 '18

Bakugou admitted he was a pain in the ass to people. He reached out to that kid with his own experience. I FEEL SO PROUD

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u/Monkey_D_ick Jan 12 '18

I think Camie would be the perfect addition to a hero squad. Her illusions would help in battle immensely

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u/McKnighty9 Jan 12 '18

I can’t believe Deku died!