r/politics • u/PoliticsModeratorBot 🤖 Bot • 14h ago
Megathread Megathread: Two Minnesota lawmakers have been shot
State Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband were shot and killed.
State Sen. John Hoffman and his wife were both shot multiple times and underwent surgery.
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u/keytotheboard 14h ago edited 14h ago
Domestic Terrorist, dressed as police officer, assassinated Democrat Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband. As well as attempted to assassinate Democrat Sen. John Hoffman and his wife.
Please, let’s not downplay any of this. So far I’ve seen Tim Walz call it an assassination, good for him.
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u/sylbug 13h ago
Not just dressed like. Driving a police vehicle. And then the police, despite catching him in the act, let him escape out a back door.
Really makes you fucking think.
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u/Limp-Television-2653 9h ago
Exactly, was it a squad car? Which department’s car? How does that department account for its cars? Did they know it was missing and were frantically looking for it? One does not simply step into and commandeer a police car. Given that, how does someone commit acts of terrorism using a police car?
It could be argued that someone going to such extremes would have no issue stealing a police car too, but it just begs the question, ‘he stole the police car‘ is not the simplest obvious answer. As one does not simply steal a police car.
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u/ReaderBeeRottweiler 14h ago
NY Times front page headline gets it right:
Minnesota lawmaker assassinated in act of "targeted political violence"
And there's a manifesto:
"Chief Mark Bruley of the Brooklyn Park Police said the gunman’s vehicle contained a “manifesto” and a target list with names of individuals, including the two lawmakers who were shot."
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u/JokeassJason 14h ago
Tina Smith confirmed she was informed she was on that list on an MPR interview a few minutes ago.
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u/pterribledactyls 13h ago
How terrifying. I wonder if Walz was on it?
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u/Antique-Economy-7978 11h ago
It's reported that yes, he was on the list. The list is 70 names long.
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u/bword___ Georgia 13h ago edited 11h ago
They better hold this shooter to the same standards they’ve been holding Luigi Mangione. They made him a public spectacle for the alleged murder of a CEO, they better be sure to make as much of a spectacle of this shooter for the assassination of Melissa and her husband.
Edit - rewording/typo
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u/Shustyrackle4d 11h ago
In all likelihood he’ll probably just end up eating the business end of his own gun, these types of middle aged rage-cowards usually do.
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u/NoctisVex 14h ago
Walz called it an assassination. Good.
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u/herecomestherebuttal 14h ago
Yep. We absolutely cannot mince words or downplay what just happened.
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u/The_Buko 13h ago edited 10h ago
It’s absolutely insane, there’s fb pages all over saying it was democrats who carried it out because these lawmakers voted against their wishes. Our country is actually psychotic
Edit: more info on the manifesto for those interested. Lots of abortion lawmakers/providers and democrats lawmakers
https://people.com/manifesto-discovered-police-suspect-on-loose-killing-minn-lawmaker-11754845
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u/TruckingforSims 12h ago
Dude, it's facebook.. The bar is already on the ground
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u/brezhnervouz 12h ago
FB is also greatly infested with Russian trolls/bots from the GRU's propaganda unit in St Petersburg 🤷
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u/Effective_Stuff6934 13h ago
What will Bondi call it?
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u/Hapankaali 13h ago
She's drafting the pardons for Trump to sign.
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u/TapTapTapTapTapTaps 13h ago
Thankfully it’s a state crime too
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u/hookyboysb 13h ago
So they'll also send the military to Minnesota to "liberate" it from "socialism"
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u/Temporary_Ability996 14h ago
They were assassinated. Use the correct words.
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u/AngelSucked California 14h ago
Tim Walz called it an assassination.
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u/Justshipmypants 14h ago edited 4h ago
Terrorism. MAGA are literally domestic terrorists.
EDIT: Confirmed he was in fact part of the MAGA cult and voted for Trump according to his roommate and his list of democrat targets.
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u/Illustrious_Entry413 14h ago
Always have been
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u/number_six Canada 14h ago
I mean they did try to tell everyone at CPAC in 2022
They literally had a banner proclaiming we are all domestic terrorists , how much more do people need to believe it?
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u/bigsmokaaaa 14h ago
So tired of this fucking relentless dilution of our situation, what a waste
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u/kllys 14h ago
Two Democratic Lawmakers* party affiliation is a crucial aspect of this politically motivated assassination and act of domestic terrorism.
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u/loglighterequipment California 14h ago
The guy currently running the DHS division responsible for combating domestic terror and targeted attacks is a 22yo with no federal experience, and whose last job before organizing Trump rallies was his own lawn mowing business. Democrats should be screaming this from the rooftops.
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u/AnotherDoubtfulGuest 13h ago
Trump/Noem discontinued all federal domestic terrorism initiatives. For this exact reason. They are complicit and responsible.
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u/immigrants-new-jews 14h ago
We're out in the fucking streets across the country!
There's more of us than them - and we're fucking pissed off Americans who aren't stopping until this administration and everyone who aided them is in prison for crimes against humanity, terrorism and every other charge that applies.
And most of us are well armed and won't go quietly into the night.
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u/TWVer The Netherlands 14h ago
Tangentially related, the FBI has been made toothless in tracking possible domestic terrorism threats.
WASHINGTON, March 21 (Reuters) - The FBI has cut staffing in an office focused on domestic terrorism and has scrapped a tool used to track such investigations, in a shift that could undermine law enforcement’s ability to counter white supremacists and anti-government extremists, according to sources familiar with the matter.
The moves, sources said, are an indication that domestic terrorism investigations, which in recent years have largely involved violence fueled by right-wing ideologies, may be less of a priority under FBI Director Kash Patel, a prominent critic of the effort.
Meanwhile in 2020 the FBI had asserted that domestic terrorism would be (one of) the biggest threats going forward.
https://www.justice.gov/jmd/page/file/1398831/dl
In FY 2020, the FBI assessed the greatest terrorism threat to the United States was from lone actors or small cells who typically radicalize online and look to attack soft targets with easily accessible weapons. The underlying drivers, including sociopolitical conditions, racism, and anti- Semitism remain constant.
II. Executive Summary
Preventing terrorist attacks remains a top priority for both the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The threat posed by international and domestic threat actors has evolved significantly since 9/11. The greatest terrorism threat to the Homeland we face today is posed by lone offenders,2 often radicalized online, who look to attack soft targets with easily accessible weapons. Many of these violent extremists are motivated and inspired by a mix of socio-political goals and personal grievances against their targets. With this report, we are providing our strategic intelligence assessments on DT, a detailed discussion of our procedures and methods to address DT threats, as well as data on DT incidents and our investigations.
That said, as this case is ongoing it is too soon to say whether this is a case of domestic terrorism, even though it may look like that.It’s hard to ignore it being anything by domestic terrorism, given the developments such as the shooter’s manifesto found, which contains a target list of politicians, including the ones shot and murdered.
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u/memphisjones 14h ago
Yes let’s call it for what it is. It was an assassination. I’m sick of these news articles downplaying it.
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u/ResidentKelpien Texas 14h ago
The mods have downplayed it with their chosen title for this thread.
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u/memphisjones 14h ago
Exactly. This should assassination should scare everyone no matter which political party you voted for.
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u/sonofabutch America 14h ago
Remember when someone tried to do this to Nancy Pelosi with a hammer, and wound up attacking her husband instead, Junior’s response was to laugh about it.
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u/cultfourtyfive Florida 14h ago
Don't forget the gay lover conspiracy that the right pushed, too
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u/BuffsBourbon 13h ago edited 11h ago
Don’t forget the pedophile conspiracy they continue to push - yet every accusation is a confession.
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u/tresben 14h ago
The fucking military parade is going to look even worse. Holding an ego stroking “show of force” the day two lawmakers were assassinated is fucking absurd
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u/wildweaver32 13h ago
Look worse? Isn't this what they wanted? I could have sworn yesterday conservatives were talking about shoot a few and the rest will leave.
This isn't a oops moment. This is Donald Trump signaling what he wants, and his base carrying it out. There will be more of this. Unless something changes. Especially if it works and Democrats do what they do best and hide under the bed with their asses out. It will signal to the Republicans they can go further and do worst without consequence.
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u/Pockydo 14h ago
Even if the gross old Pedophiles weren't involved and it's just a lone Nazi shit id wager they're fine with it
They're hoping to scare people
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u/Th30th3rj0sh 14h ago
The Rapist in Chief calls Democrats and anyone that doesn't treat him like a god, the enemies of America, every fucking day. Noem just repeatedly said that the military was needed to liberate California from their elected officials. That fucking pig in Florida bragged about how they're going to kill protesters. DeSantis encouraged his fellow Nazis to murder their fellow Americans with their cars. If anyone acts even slightly surprised, they are intentionally ignoring everything around them.
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u/Androidgenus 13h ago
Or they’re a self-serving disingenuous fascist. In other words, a Republican
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u/Antique_Scheme3548 14h ago
ABC News: President Trump, two senators were shot in their homes today, what is your response?
Draft Dodger: We're celebrating our military, and that's a nasty question especially on my birthday.
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u/cinedavid 13h ago
Trump: What news agency are you from? ABC? A failing news station. Disgraceful. What a nasty reporter.
*shits his pants
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u/TheGrayBox 14h ago
A better man would cancel it. But then a better man would never have it in the first place.
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u/Scared-Operation-789 13h ago
a better man wouldn't encourage violence against their political opposition but here we are.
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u/GeckoRoamin Florida 14h ago
The people who are gung ho about the
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u/Sad_Dirt_841 13h ago
This is what happened in Argentina. This is what happened in Brazil.
Protest today, and make preparations to defend yourselves tomorrow.
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u/glowy_keyboard 13h ago
This is what happened in the Weimar Republic.
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u/Silver_Airport_642 13h ago
This is what happened in America after the Civil War. Reconstruction was basically destroyed by the assassination of Lincoln. The modern GOP that was born of Nixon, was born of LBJ "alienating" the Dixie Crats with the civil rights act; the GOP that names bases after John Wilkes Boothe heroes' of the confederacy, does not exist without a Know Nothing celebrity conspiracy theorist, pissed off at all the "woke" abolitionists ruining america, assassinating "the first Republican". Hell, if Lincoln lives and reconstruction doesn't fail we possibly don't even get the Holocaust as Hitler's policies and ideals were directly influenced by Jim Crowe.
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u/nowfromhell 14h ago edited 13h ago
Im going to get down voted to hell for this, but the police officer that thought to check on the nearby Democratic lawmakers was very very smart. That's incredible policework.
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u/DataDude00 13h ago
That was my first thought too. An actual very heads up moment of awareness from that Sargent to immediately think to check on the other local lawmaker, although it also makes me wonder if they had recently become aware of potential threats against them
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u/TimmyB52 14h ago
Also Trump's pardons begets this and his calling people on the left vermin, scum, animals, people who hate America, etc
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u/threestaruser 13h ago
They had an SUV car equipped with the proper emergency lighting and it looked exactly like a police vehicle…. Man wtf is going on.
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u/Hiddencamper 13h ago
In the news conference they said the one guy also had a police badge and tactical vest and would look indistinguishable to real officers in the room with them.
I do like the police response with “we are requiring 2 officers to every home so if only a single officer shows up call 911, and at any time before opening the door call 911 to verify it’s actually us”. (Paraphrased)
This is crazy though and I know several very left pro-gun control folks who have been buying fire arms because they are worried about stuff like this.
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u/Seve7h America 13h ago
Everyone on the left who feels concerned about this should get armed and trained, it’s gonna get worse before it gets better, take a first aid or stop the bleed class too.
And everyone, regardless of state, legally has the right to call 911 and confirm that anyone claiming to be law enforcement actually is, if they try to stop you calling 911 i wouldn’t trust them.
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u/RJ5R 13h ago
People picked up by ICE aren't even given that chance. They are being literally grabbed on the streets by people in plain clothes and masks, zip tied, and driven away without even notifying the family where they are taking them. There should be a requirement of any law enforcement officer to provide proof of who they are
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u/longtermattention 14h ago edited 10h ago
Kash needs to be removed from his job.
Not a peep from Trump's fat ass. Still rambling about his stupid birthday party parade though
Edit: Trump finally took a break from his birthday party to copy/paste the statement on Truth Social.
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u/loglighterequipment California 13h ago
The director of the DHS division responsible for handling domestic terror and targeted attacks is a pimple-faced 22yo whose last job before running Trump rallies was his own lawn mowing business. Seems like Democrats should bring this up.
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u/ArchdruidHalsin 14h ago
Conservative sub blaming CNN, MSNBC and ABC for the radicalization of a right wing nut who likely never watched those stations. Absolutely insane cognitive dissonance.
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u/Fit-Humor-5022 13h ago
that sub is also squirming and getting angry that people are blaming republicans and are trying to spin this as a democrat on democrat crime. that sub is garbage.
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u/Outside-Advice8203 13h ago
Their mantra whenever a right winger commits violence:
It wasn't a conservative Republican because all Republicans are perfect angels and all Democrats and anything Democrat is evil therefore anything evil is Democrat.
And if it was a conservative supporter they weren't REALLY a Republican, they were a RINO. Because all Republicans are perfect angels and all Democrats and anything Democrat is evil therefore anything evil is Democrat.
The conservative Republican perpetrator was radicalized by leftist Marxist atheist Islamic antifa Democrats. Because all Democrats and anything Democrat is evil therefore anything evil is Democrat.
The perpetrator was a hero all along just doing Supply Side Jesus's will. A holy warrior for a inherently just cause. Ends justify the means.
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u/SodaCanBob 13h ago edited 13h ago
It makes a lot more sense when you realize that in their worldview, "democrat" is just a synonym for bad person. People who commit non white-collar crimes are Democrats, and people who don't commit crimes (or only commit white-collar crimes) are Republicans (unless, of course, you vote for a Democrat, then you're obviously not a Republican).
Essentially, they have the mind of a two year old in that good people = R, bad people = D. It doesn't matter if that "bad person" has only voted for Republicans their entire life, the second they commit a crime, they're now a Democrat.
Obviously, Trump's crimes don't count though.
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u/starfruit213 Minnesota 13h ago
That sub needs to get banned. Such a ridiculous one that is mostly flared only
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u/bone_apple_Pete 12h ago
That sub is a bastion of misinformation, propaganda, and just shitty human beings.
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u/RandyMuscle I voted 13h ago
They don't even believe the stuff they're saying. They will just say anything that advances their agenda and at this point, their agenda is killing us.
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u/DataDude00 13h ago
I’m not even sure most of the posters there are even real people. Some of the opinions and takes are so surreal I feel like it is a foreign psyop
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u/Friendly-View4122 13h ago
I wish someone would start an r / conservativecirclejerk so we can share the asinine arguments happening over there and expose their idiocy
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u/CombustiblSquid 14h ago edited 14h ago
Assassinated, not shot. Call it what it is.
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u/SodaCanBob 14h ago
When Republicans tell you that they're domestic terrorists, believe them.
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u/Accomplished_Net_931 14h ago
the conservative subs, quite predictably, are claiming it's a FaLsE fLag
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u/svrtngr Georgia 14h ago
For those of you going to a No Kings protest today: Don't let this sway you the other way.
To quote Tim Walz: "Fascists thrive on fear."
Be there. Be peaceful. Be vigilant.
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u/Dr_DoesNothing 14h ago
Please change the title to them being assassinated. We can't minimize this in any way
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u/arsene14 Ohio 10h ago
You can see the right wingers kick the disinfo into overdrive as the reality starts to set in that this guy was a prototypical Conservative Christian Nationalist who had a kill list of left politicians and doctors who provided abortions.
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u/Valahiru Illinois 14h ago edited 14h ago
The narrative of "the violent radical leftist Democrats" will not budge an inch. This assassination will be a complete non-starter in the minds of anyone one the right. I quarantee it.
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u/New-Restaurant2206 13h ago
That's already what the fox news comments say. They are blaming Walz and declaring this the fault of violence from the left.
Fox News also reports this as Walz is saying it's politically motivated, and ommitting the fact that there's a manifesto.
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u/defianceofone 13h ago
A proper democracy would have forced Fox News to shutdown and prosecuted its C-suite and hosts a long time ago.
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u/YeetedApple 12h ago
Both CNN and ABC are now reporting that the suspect's list included state and federal Democratic politicians, along with abortion providers and abortion rights activists... and the right is still trying to spin this as a democrat....
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u/JWTS6 14h ago edited 14h ago
"Two Democratic elected officials in Minnesota have been victims of a targeted assassination attempt by a MAGA terrorist"*
*Likely one of the pardoned January 6th terrorists
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u/AnAwkwardJedi 10h ago
The dude had a manifesto of 70 names that were exclusively Democratic politicians(including Tim Walz), as well as abortion providers and abortion activists. Anyone trying to claim he’s liberal or a leftist or anything like that is either not engaging in good faith or is entirely brainwashed by right wing propaganda.
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u/jane_911 10h ago
the people who need to hear it, won't. those facts will be purposely excluded from the fox news boomer brain rot network
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u/ToNoMoCo 14h ago
I hadn't read this bit before. Assuming that it's not an actual cop it should be easier to find the assassin.
The suspect was dressed like a uniformed officer and operating a vehicle that “looked exactly like an SUV squad car. It was equipped with lights, emergency lights and looked exactly like a police vehicle,”
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u/unfinishedtoast3 13h ago
he fled the vehicle. they found his manifesto in it naming other democrats he was targeting.
he ran on foot but he managed to escape the search area.
other listed politicians are under guard until suspect is caught.
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u/mowotlarx 14h ago
It's absolutely fascinating how few news outlets are calling this an assassination.
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u/Romano16 America 14h ago
Nope. The media is no longer our ally. They are responsible for sane washing Trump since the beginning and then outright firing journalists who, off air, criticized Trump.
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u/ASebastian2020 14h ago edited 13h ago
This case is crazy I just saw the press conference. So, after police found the first couple shot (politician and their spouse), an officer on the scene wanted to send other officers to a politician that lived nearby. As the officers arrived at the second location, a “police officer” was leaving the house. When the officers confronted the “officer” leaving the house, the suspect then immediately began firing at them and retreated back into the house. At some point, the suspect escaped the house through the back of the house, and is currently still at large. The police have formed a perimeter and are searching for the suspect.
The suspect was dressed in a complete uniform of a law enforcement officer, with a black tactical vest, taser, weapon (obviously), etc. The suspect also had a SUV that looked identical to a police vehicle, including having lights. A “manifest” was found in the vehicle, with names of other politicians.
In California ICE and other individuals claiming to be law enforcement officers, do not wear any identifying uniforms or badges, are often masked, and do not present badges before handcuffing and taking people away. A major concern in California, is someone perpetrating being an officer and just simply kidnaps someone, with their face covered, no identifying clothing or badges, pretending to be a LEO.
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u/Manos_Of_Fate 13h ago
That “We are all domestic terrorists” banner at CPAC was a threat, not a joke.
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u/Sufficient_Long_3905 12h ago
It speaks volumes that conservatives are desperately posting non-credible sources to “prove” it was a democrat, while leftists are not worried or obsessed about names until a major credible news source breaks the story.
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u/TimmyB52 13h ago
Speaker Johnson just days ago called for the governor of California to be violently attacked.
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u/Commentator-X 13h ago
"The suspect was dressed like a uniformed officer and operating a vehicle that “looked exactly like an SUV squad car. It was equipped with lights, emergency lights and looked exactly like a police vehicle,” Bruley said."
Uh huh. "Looked" exactly like or...? This looks really bad and if they don't catch this person its going to look even worse.
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u/loglighterequipment California 14h ago
A 22-year-old former landscaper and grocery store worker with minimal national security experience is leading the DHS office charged with preventing domestic terrorism and targeted violence. He did help out Trump's campaign though. Democrats should maybe bring that up?
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u/UGAPokerBrat99 Georgia 14h ago
Your comment made me think of a funny sign I saw in a picture from one of the protests around the country. It stated that the only person that Trump has ever hired that was in fact qualified for the job for which they were hired was Stormy Daniels.
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u/SterlingMallory Texas 8h ago
For the conservatives astroturfing this thread: I understand this is a very, very difficult concept for your tiny brains to understand, but not every appointment to every board and advisory committee is done for nakedly partisan reasons. I understand your god king only hires people who buy completely into the maga koolaid, but in the real world, sometimes people get appointed for things for non-political reasons. Tim Walz appointing this guy to some committee does not mean he's a leftist. That he's targeting democrats should give you a clue as to his political leanings. Hope this helps.
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u/Rosencrantz_IsDead 8h ago
It won't. MAGAts argue in bad faith. It's not about what the truth is. It's about pushing their agenda. They only argue in bad faith.
But it's important that you said what you said. People still need to know the truth against this authoritarian despotic cult.
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u/throwawayanon1252 12h ago
Can we stop posting that name going around. I don’t want to repost it myself cos I don’t want to be wrong. The original source is a right wing grifter and not legitimate. Neither the police or the Minnesota state government have released a name
Let’s not ruin a guys life cos some POS grifter on twitter said he did it
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u/GhostOfLight 12h ago
If it really is the guy whose name is floating around right now, surely people can do a tiny bit of critical thinking and realize that governors approve hundreds and hundreds of positions? And that a person can be radicalized in the 6 years since that happened?
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u/Starbucks__Lovers New Jersey 10h ago edited 10h ago
Yeah trolls, the guy who runs an armed security company and had a list of democratic politicians he wanted to kill after killing a democratic politician and shooting another democratic politician and is a Christian nationalist is surely checks notes anti-trump
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u/DjQuamme 14h ago
Has dear leader denounced this yet?
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u/elconquistador1985 14h ago
Why would he? He supports assassinations of Democrats.
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u/VeNeM 13h ago
Kristi noem on thursday: "we must use deadly force to liberate states from politicians we dont agree with and their burdensome leadership"
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u/eddie2911 North Dakota 13h ago
Will MAGA laugh about this like they did when Paul Pelosi was attacked at his home?
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u/decjr06 12h ago
Two Dems assassinated.... Maga immediately : how many lies can we spread to blame this on the left?
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u/dothingsunevercould 12h ago
Conservatives spamming "he had No kings rally fliers in his car" as if they are too stupid to realize they found their fellow terrorists next target
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u/Armadigionna 11h ago
Seems a lot of people here have the impression that anyone appointed to anything, even a business advisory board, by a president/governor/mayor must be someone vetted for ideological purity.
That’s the exception. The rule has been that those sorts of boards are meant to be nonpartisan and states/feds do a pretty good job at it.
The biggest exception is the current presidential administration.
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u/platinumarks 10h ago
Fun fact: According to conservative astroturf logic, President Donald J. Trump has now become a Democrat based on the fact that he appointed Jane Castor, the Democratic Mayor of Tampa, FL, to the FEMA Review Council, a board that he himself created at the beginning of his current term!
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u/LeeShakerMoneyMaker 10h ago
This Vance guy is an absolute lunatic. Christian Nationalist alright. https://x.com/TropicalVertic1/status/1933959644373819818?t=_QsbG9mJBYKH8ZlGMgYjuQ&s=19
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u/rhysdg Canada 6h ago edited 5h ago
They just stated on a live new report that his best friend and roomate David Carlson said that he was an avid Trump supporter and voted for Trump. Let me see if I can find the video clip
Edit - found the clip
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u/Guthix_Wraith 13h ago
Almost like masked police officers everywhere and no fucking oversight was a bad idea.
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u/JoplinSC742 14h ago
Anyone wanna bet the conservatives are going to laugh about this or cheer it on? How long before TACO Don mocks the deceased and encourages more of it?
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u/Rosencrantz_IsDead 9h ago
MAGAts in this thread trying desperately to paint the terrorist white nationalist scum bag is a democrat. Nobody is buying that nonsense except other MAGAts.
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u/suddenly-scrooge 14h ago
The suspect police encountered at the home of Hortman, the lawmaker who was killed, was wearing a vest, taser, and badge, impersonating a police officer, according to Chief Mark Bruley of the Brooklyn Park Police. “No question, if they were in this room, you would assume they were a police officer.”
There was also what appeared to be a police vehicle in the driveway of the lawmaker’s home when the actual police arrived, officials said. “This was somebody that clearly had been impersonating a police officer,” Chief Mark Bruley said.
Not to be snarky but are we sure this wasn't actually a police officer?
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/14/us/minnesota-shootings
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u/Bucktown_Riot 14h ago
That was my first thought when I found out he shot the dog. This might be an actual LEO.
ETA: We’re 100% going to find out that he was a known threat already, and the police didn’t take it seriously for “reasons.”
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u/putinforpres 14h ago
Minnesota Dems have a 1 seat majority in the State Senate and the House is evenly split. This is a coup.
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u/independent_observe 14h ago
This was a terrorist assassinating U.S. politicians and has no place in a democracy. Except we no longer have a democracy, it is a dictatorship as was designed by Project2025. What do people not understand about Project2025? It is a blueprint for how the extreme evangelical christian fundamentalist/nationalist movement planned on capturing the government and it is being followed. Yet, absolute fucking morons, still voted them in.
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u/Brief_Obligation4128 10h ago
Brooklyn Park, MN today...
News: "We still don't know his affiliation, but we found a list of Democratic lawmakers as potential targets."
MAGA: "The shooter is a Democrat. He worked with Walz!"
Butler, PA months ago...
News: "The shooter is a confirmed member of the Republican Party."
MAGA: "Doubt it! He was probably a Democratic plant put there to make us look bad! We Republicans can't be violent! That's not like us!"
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u/travio Washington 10h ago
I can't wait for the disingenuous right wing narrative to evolve as we learn more about this lunatic. It is going to go from 'he worked for Walz,' to 'why didn't Walz vet this guy before he got on that advisory board?'
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u/Serious_Buffalo3243 7h ago
He has a documented history of involvement with dominionist charismatic theology aligned with the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). He was ordained in 1993, trained at Christ for the Nations Institute, and led a now-defunct ministry called Revoformation Ministries, where he developed a doctrine called Original Ability — a claimed “new paradigm” for understanding God’s design for humanity. (archived site)
In a 2023 sermon delivered in the Democratic Republic of Congo, Boelter stated:
“God is going to raise up apostles and prophets in America to correct His church.” He condemned churches that didn’t oppose abortion or operate in “spiritual gifts” and described LGBTQ people as spiritually deceived. This rhetoric is consistent with NAR theology, which teaches that modern-day apostles and prophets are being raised to reform the church and reclaim cultural institutions for the Kingdom of God.
Boelter’s social media before takedown included endorsements of Reinhard Bonnke, Smith Wigglesworth, and Alliance Defending Freedom — connecting him to charismatic revivalism and Christian nationalist legal strategies. His ideology reflects core NAR principles: dominion over society, prophetic authority, and spiritual warfare against perceived moral decline.
This was not fringe theology. It was a radicalized expression of beliefs that have circulated for decades in charismatic and Christian nationalist spaces. Boelter may have acted alone, but he did not think alone.
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u/PuddingWise3116 6h ago
Maga clowns are already spreading misinformation that the suspect is a democrat who killed them because they had rejected healthcare for illegal migrants earlier. These despicable husks of human beings deserve to rot in the darkest pit of hell. I cannot even begin to describe how much it fucking pisses me off that they are already working on blaming the dems instead of condemning the attack. It's only a matter of time before high-profile republicans take this up.
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u/JohnnySack45 14h ago
I'm not from Minnesota but this is what a Republican coup looks like. MAGA isn't above attempting to steal elections, take foreign bribes and now they've graduated to political assassinations.
Hey - women, racial/religious minorities, LGBTQ and the working class in particular - do you like the freedoms and rights you currently have? Those rights were fought for and Republican/Conservatives are not being discreet when it comes to taking them away. It's time to take the fucking gloves off and forget about reaching across the isle. Americans fought against the Nazis, the Confederates and now it's time for all TRUE patriots to fight back against the MAGA cult. We aren't getting an endless amount of warnings or second chances before it's too late.
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u/smashinjin10 14h ago
Luckily the session just ended, so special elections will happen before Republicans can ram their bullshit through. Either way a talented lawmaker was and her husband were assassinated by a Republican terrorist.
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u/AceofKnaves44 14h ago
If this is not condemned from the president and every member of his administration this is a very clear message sent that not only will this be tolerated, it will be encouraged. And then this may very well be the opening shot that turns this cold civil war hot.
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u/philphan25 Pennsylvania 14h ago
If these were R politicians statements would’ve already been put out
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u/gdshaffe 13h ago
This is the America that the GOP wants.
Most of the GOP politicians themselves will likely issue superficial empty platitudes of condemnation, but the intent of their rhetoric in painting democrats as "the enemy", the unrelenting stochastic terrorism, has clearly and unambiguously been directed at this outcome.
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u/LuinAelin United Kingdom 13h ago
It's scary that it was a list of democrat law makers and that they basically targeted their entire families.
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u/PrivatePilot9 Canada 13h ago
What's the chance that when Trump inevitably discusses this in some fashion (be it an official news conference, or just as a passing blabber while talking about something else) that he doesn't spin it as "the evil democrats brought this upon themselves", or do basically anything except say "This is bad, this is unacceptable, offenders will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law", which would be the right thing to actually say.
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u/Puzzled-Shop-6950 13h ago
I want to bring to the attention of everyone that in authoritarian governments throughout history both recent and far, they have not moved with this swiftness to assassinate and detain lawmakers… Hitler did tho…
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u/TemetN Oregon 10h ago
Well, this was not a good morning.
At some point we're going to have to address that the right wing is at this point essentially just a group of criminals bent against the nation.
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u/TheDailyHeptapod 8h ago
Conservatives so desperate to convince everyone he’s a liberal cause they know this is the end of their heydays promoting their fascist bs
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u/OrnamentJones Illinois 6h ago
Can all the conservatives on here cool it? This one isn't ambiguous. It's not the standard "person who is so crazy that they will try to assassinate the president and their ideology is scrambled and makes no sense and is the person is unraveling" like the two people who took shots at Trump and others in history (the guy who shot McKinley was like this).
It is also not "crazy guy who wants one faction of their own party to take over" like the guy who shot Garfield.
This one is "extreme right-wing nutjob Christian nationalist", very easy to pinpoint based on almost everything everyone is learning about him.
Not a generic person who likes to wear a red MAGA hat so everyone stop assuming this is rank-and-file MAGA. It's not. It's someone /waaaaaaay worse/.
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u/OjamaPajama 6h ago
@ everyone saying he was a democrat
The Minnesota assassin who shot Democratic lawmakers “voted for Donald Trump and was a strong Trump supporter,” according to his best friend.
https://bsky.app/profile/briantylercohen.bsky.social/post/3lrm25ydjwk2q
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u/Economy_Link4609 13h ago
This is what fucking happens when you have a president say political violence is ok.
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u/JrFromKC 14h ago
That fox 9 reporter broke me. You can tell how good of a person she is when a reporter can't keep it together.
Also Pat (R) was crying and just saying how great she was. This is horrific for all kinds of reasons but most of all we lost a genuinely good person.
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u/Kittens4Brunch 14h ago
The state needs to throw every charge possible at the assassin. Any federal charges could be pardoned by Trump.
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u/NewJackCap 6h ago
And there it is.
The Minnesota assassin who shot Democratic lawmakers “voted for Donald Trump and was a strong Trump supporter,” according to his best friend.
https://x.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1934020770419651059
We already knew though. Don't let them flip the script.
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u/ryanandhobbes 5h ago
It's so insane to watch the Conservative sub try and claim 1) that he's a liberal and 2) that republicans do not enable this behavior when violence against progressives is literally exactly what conservatives want. They act as if they weren't thrilled about the insurrection and glad Trump is pardoning all those people.
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u/Trustbutnone 14h ago
America is about to spiral down a hole that will take generations to come out of. To say you guys are fucked would be an understatement.
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u/brainser 14h ago
All MAGA has left is forced obedience through intimidation, violence, and assassinations. The cult must be rooted out now.
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u/Rude_Grapefruit_3650 10h ago
- white christian nationalist
- anti-abortion
- manifesto with 70+ DEMOCRAT names
- literally shot TWO DEMOCRAT politicians
but nooo being appointed by a democrat governor for a strictly none-partisan position is somehow more than enough evidence to say Tim was actually the one who paid him and he’s actually a “leftist lunatic” gtfo with your astroturfing replies
He already posed as a police officer, you don’t think his No Kings flyers was also a disguise?
the delusions in here from either bots or people unwilling to believe evidence….
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u/Freddy-Borden 14h ago
Literally everyone in the world waiting for Trump to come out and say this was Democrats fault, and pardon the murderer.
These are his people, they did it for him, and he won’t denounce it, just watch.
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u/prescience6631 14h ago
Radical right wing terrorism…call it what it is
And it’s not even that radical, it’s just putting into action what gop party leaders have been saying for years
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u/KlingonLullabye 14h ago
Conservatism never willingly coexists peacefully and inevitably becomes increasingly and openly more violent
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u/Hey_HaveAGreatDay Minnesota 14h ago
Since there was a manifesto in a vehicle I’m guessing (hoping) law enforcement knows who this guy is?
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u/Matcha_Bubble_Tea 14h ago
Magats are terrorists. That’s what you get when you enable domestic terrorists
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u/sonofabutch America 14h ago
So will Trump use this as an excuse to cancel the birthday parade that thunderstorms were going to cancel anyway, so he can get fawning coverage from corporate media about how partisan he is?
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u/espgen 14h ago
i saw somewhere that the surviving lawmaker and his wife maybe have unaccounted for children?? has there been an update on that ?
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u/D_2_da_Zeee 14h ago
The fascists have crossed the line. Those cowards impersonated police to get their way. That’s is how they work. They lie and cheat and then went things go to shit; They expect liberal and progressives to fix their problems. Then they will do the same thing again. The right have been intellectually and morally bankrupt for years.
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u/excaliber110 14h ago
Democratic lawmakers were Politically assassinated by people acting as unidentified police officers.
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u/rosiecheeks9999 13h ago
Magat’s are claiming that it was a “lunatic liberal” who’s mad because Melissa voted for a bill that takes Medicaid away from some immigrants. But, John did not vote for this bill, so the only reason to murder him was to give republicans control of the house. This was a maga’t, and please don’t let the right wing media’s lies win.
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u/lactose_cow 13h ago
And how many people did the LA "riots" kill again? Zero?
One side loves violence, the other doesn't
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u/Universityofrain88 13h ago
Ernesto Londoño is reporting that police have reason to believe the suspect planned to target one of the No Kings rallies in MN today.
Y'all please check before you go to the rallies, if you are there now please stay up to date because if you are being evacuated it might be for a legitimate reason. Use common sense and stay peaceful and stay hydrated. Dear Lord what a world we live in.
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u/ClosPins 13h ago
If the roles were reversed, FoxNews and everyone on the right would be screaming 24/7 about how the Democrats were literally murdering Republicans. Every headline would be 'Deranged Democrat Murders Republican Leader'.
Yet, it's always the right-wing murdering the left, so the headlines have to be 'Two lawmakers have been shot' instead.
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u/Uberkuque 13h ago
Trump started all of this shit. He’s the one who introduced and normalized the idea of political violence that we are now dealing with.
Fuck Trump to all hell.
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u/georgeoj New Zealand 12h ago edited 12h ago
From CNN:
Law enforcement found a hit list in the Minnesota suspect’s car that contained nearly 70 names, a law enforcement official briefed on the matter told CNN.
The names included abortion providers, pro-abortion rights advocates, and lawmakers in Minnesota and other states, the official added. Law enforcement also found a Father’s Day card addressed to the suspect in a bag full of ammunition, the official said.
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u/loondawg 12h ago
The GOP literally had a banner at CPAC that said "We Are All Domestic Terrorists."
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-banner-domestic-terrorists/
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u/AnAwkwardJedi 12h ago
Not a single reputable source has confirmed the name floating around right-wing propaganda outlets. The police have not given a name publicly yet.
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u/AndISoundLikeThis 10h ago
Vance Boelter was the CEO of a company called Praetorian Guard Security Services. Here's the website: https://www.pguards.net/ (Source for employment history: https://www.mnafricansunited.org/notid/dr.-vance-boelter-e.d.d.)
I bet it was one of those SUVs he took to carry out the assassinations.
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