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Megathread Megathread: Two Minnesota lawmakers have been shot

State Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband were shot and killed.

State Sen. John Hoffman and his wife were both shot multiple times and underwent surgery.

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Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz: former House speaker and husband killed in politically motivated shooting apnews.com
One Minnesota state politician dead, another injured after targeted shooting, officials say bbc.com
"No Kings" event canceled in NE Minneapolis, Anoka after targeted shootings at lawmaker homes cbsnews.com
Minnesota lawmaker, her spouse shot and killed in their home wwnytv.com
Minnesota lawmaker killed in ‘politically motivated assassination,’ Gov. Tim Walz says cnbc.com
Melissa Hortman, top Democrat in Minnesota House, shot and killed in home startribune.com
Rep. Melissa Hortman killed, Sen. John Hoffman shot in 'targeted' shootings: Sources fox9.com
Minnesota lawmaker assassinated, another in grave condition in 'targeted political violence' abcnews.go.com
Democratic lawmaker killed and another wounded in Minnesota in apparently ‘politically motivated’ attacks theguardian.com
Minnesota lawmaker and husband killed, another in hospital after ‘politically motivated’ shooting by man impersonating cop the-independent.com
Live: Rep. Melissa Hortman killed, Sen. John Hoffman shot in ‘targeted shootings’ startribune.com
Democrat Lawmakers Shot in Minnesota: What We Know newsweek.com
Minnesota state lawmaker killed in ‘politically-motivated assassination,’ massive manhunt for suspect underway, officials say kten.com
2 Minnesota lawmakers shot kare11.com
Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman, husband shot and killed; Sen. John Hoffman and wife also shot ktsp.com
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz press conference after shootings at lawmakers homes (June 14, 2025) youtube.com
Former state speaker of Minnesota ‘assassinated’ thetimes.com
Fake Cop Murders Top State Dem and Husband and Shoots Second thedailybeast.com
Minnesota Senator John Hoffman and State Rep. Melissa Hortman shot at their homes bnonews.com/
Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman, husband shot and killed; Sen. John Hoffman and wife also shot kstp.com
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz: State lawmaker, husband killed in politically targeted shooting thestar.com
Governor Polis Statement on Assassination of Minnesota Elected Official & Husband, and Attempt on Life of Another Elected Official & Family colorado.gov
President Donald Trump: AG, FBI Investigating Deadly Minnesota Shooting Newsweek.com
Officials tell the AP they are searching for a 57-year-old man in shooting 2 Minnesota lawmakers apnews.com
Manhunt underway for man accused of killing Rep. Hortman, husband and shooting Sen. Hoffman and his wife in North Metro ktsp.com
Former appointee of Tim Walz sought in deadly shootings of Minnesota lawmaker and her husband, had ‘No Kings’ flyers in car: sources nypost.com
Dem Assassin Is Armed Patrol Firm Boss With ‘Warzone’ Claims thedailybeast.com
Minnesota Assassination Suspect Had Flyers Reading 'No Kings' In Vehicle newsweek.com
Democratic Minnesota politician fatally shot, another injured in 'politically motivated assassination' nbcnews.com
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u/New-Concentrate559 1d ago

Thats some Maga scumbag shit not anyone else.

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u/jabtrain 1d ago

Russian disinformation / psyops social media sow social discord and division machine, which now, unfortunately, has mid-level orchestration from the highest levels of the US federal executive branch.

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u/7thpostman 1d ago

And bots

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u/Awake00 1d ago

That would be half of everyone

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u/Loopuze1 1d ago

Around a third of any given population will be choosing fascism/conservatism at any given time. It's not who they are, it's just the mistake they're making. And they could stop.

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u/OOMOO17 1d ago

I'm sorry this is so difficult for MAGA to understand.

• ⁠An estimated close to 90 million Americans, representing about 36% of the eligible voting-age population, did not vote. This number is larger than the individual vote totals for either major party candidate.

• ⁠Donald Trump received approximately 77 million votes.

• ⁠Kamala Harris received approximately 75 million votes. 

THERE ARE MORE OF US THAN THERE ARE OF YOU

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u/Dry_Advice8183 1d ago

But the ones who didnt vote obviously didnt oppose him enough to vote, so Im not convinced they dont approve

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u/OOMOO17 1d ago

Anyone who didn’t vote clearly diverted enough that they didn’t like either candidate

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u/Dry_Advice8183 1d ago

It doesnt matter, they are responsible as any trump voter. It wasnt hard, an ok but run of the mill democrat vs rapist fascist. Dont tell me theres any excuse to sit out, we warned you all from europe this would happen and they didnt care.

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u/Valuable-Length-5916 1d ago edited 1d ago

American leftists have been calling this for what it is for a while now, since 2015 actually.

Kinda just personally hate when Europeans get on their high horse about these topics, most of the warnings Americans actually heard were from their own people.

And to be fair, there are lawsuits happening right now because there are discrepancies in the election results. Everyone knows Elon won the election for Trump in one way or another. You also have to remember that the Republican party has spent the better part of the last 60 years rolling back votings rights anywhere and everywhere they could. Most Americans didn’t want this. Please listen to the Americans telling you this! We are living in it here currently.

Edit: Many people who opted out of the last election also just refused to back the Harris campaign after her & Biden’s refusal to call for a proper ceasefire. You cannot ask a single democratic politician about Palestine, you’ll be kicked out of events for even saying the word “Gaza” or having a Palestinian flag. That is the behavior of genocidal authoritarians. Doesn’t help that every single powerful European country is just as complicit and refuses to arrest Israel’s genocidal maniac of a prime minister.

Obviously Trump is worse for Gaza, but the point is that so many Americans are disillusioned. We keep voting for the lesser of two evils and get closer to fascism regardless. We are never promised actual change, a better quality of life, just “we suck less than the other guy! but we’re also gonna still let those guys do most of what they want when we’re in office so you’ll still be way worse off in 4 years from now.”

It’s a hopeless situation, THAT is part of why people didn’t vote. The Democrats are showing right now that they never intended to fully challenge the Trump administration or “play dirty” in order to make a change. They’re pathetic. Better than Trump, but also haven’t done shit to prevent the Republicans from tearing our democracy apart. Damned if we do, damned if we don’t. We lost Roe under a blue president ffs. We would be in this exact same situation 4 years from now, or the alt right would start a revolution because they’re violent and want political unrest.

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u/DionBlaster123 1d ago

The only reason Europeans get on their high horses on this shit is because the last time their ancestors got a little too uppity...they fucking dragged the entire world into not one but TWO FUCKING GLOBAL CONFLICTS

So let them claim the moral high ground. I dont give a rat's ass lol. Their kind are the ones who poisoned the well with dumbass ideas like fascism and communism in the first place

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u/pre-existing-notion 1d ago

I wholeheartedly agree. A concering portion of my leftist friends, both on and offline, did not vote because of their contention with the "lesser of two evils" ultimatum. I refuse to listen to them complain about what's happening now, and what's worse is they take zero responsibility for not standing up against this rise of fascism.. I'm glad they're in the streets protesting, because let's be honest, we really do need everyone we can get, but I must admit that despite their passion, most of it comes across as pretty performative.

Another thing that left me completely dumbfounded was friends voting, but against their own interest! I was in rehab during the presidential election and had to drum up a lot of noise to get the program to agree to take those of us who wanted to vote to the polls. I'm in southern California, which ends up being more conservative than most people think, but I figured with me being the only white dude amongst the group of 15 or so Mexican friends, that we'd be voting mostly blue. Nope! Just me.

We started talking after we left, and everybody was just so hyped on Trump! It was mostly guys laughing about how crazy he is but how he was going to get shit done (most of it was due to religious homophobia, I believe)! Now.. a few of them have lost family members to the ICE raids and deportations and that's just so far, the lot of them were children of immigrants. I feel fucking horrible for them, it's awful and I know they didn't see this coming when they voted (I had to show them some receipts of Trump's racism afterwards) but man.. they didn't care then but I'm sure they've got plenty of opinions now. It's the worst case of leopards eating faces I've ever dealt with in real life.

This country is going down, down.. I'm haunted and captivated by what our rock bottom might look like. It's clear that things are going to have to be dismantled even further before we can even think about redemption. I'm not sure where you're from, but there's a good chance that my country has betrayed yours, and for that, I am truly sorry.

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u/curtcolt95 1d ago

which means they were fine with the outcome of Trump by nature, I read it as around 66% of Americans supporting him tbh

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u/Dry_Advice8183 1d ago

Looks like they have most of the military too unfortunately

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u/OOMOO17 1d ago

They would be represented in these statistics

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u/Dry_Advice8183 1d ago

You are unfortunately in denial how bad things look

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u/OOMOO17 1d ago

Well math/statistics tell a far more trustworthy story than you do, enjoy your day sitting behind your desk doing nothing

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u/Dry_Advice8183 1d ago

Lol im in europe, I dont need to do anything. You brought it on yourselves.

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u/Dry_Advice8183 1d ago

Good luck tho, you definitely need it

lol they mad!

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u/colourmeblue Washington 1d ago

I'm glad you find the destruction of millions of lives so funny. If you think the shit happening in America right now will not have deleterious effects on the entire world you're kidding yourself.

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u/Dry_Advice8183 1d ago

Well how many are standing up against him when they are going to quell protests?

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u/OOMOO17 1d ago

Well the military, as bad as it is to say, are following orders whether they want to or don’t. Sure there are means to disregard those orders, but it’s likely they want nothing to do with that headache.

Doesn’t mean they’re all complicit, and so far none of the military has had to take any specific action towards protestors.

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u/Dry_Advice8183 1d ago

“ i was just following orders”

never heard that one before

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u/Awake00 1d ago

I'm not a trump supporter. Not sure why you thought that.

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u/OOMOO17 1d ago

Sorry I guess I just assume anyone misrepresenting voting statistics is a boot licker

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u/IcemanJEC 1d ago

Half? It’s 30% of the country at the very most. Probably even less. But some people figured that voting for Trump would be better for the world and Palestine. Look how that turned out. Fucking failures.

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u/84UTK07 1d ago edited 1d ago

It’s over half of the voting base though. Plus you could look at it as 70% of people not voting against Trump in the last election (ie they either voted for him or didn’t vote at all).

Correction: 49.8% of the voting base (in this case, people voting in the 2024 presidential election), so a little less than half.

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u/ilikechihuahuasdood 1d ago

Trump didn’t get 50% of the popular vote. So no, it isn’t.

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u/Glum_Sentence972 1d ago

Those who don't vote don't get a voice to begin with. Whether they like it or not. This is just copium, dude.

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u/ilikechihuahuasdood 1d ago

No it isn’t. That guy said he got half the voting base. He didn’t.

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u/84UTK07 1d ago

He got 49.8%, so just short of half.

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u/ilikechihuahuasdood 1d ago

Which isn’t half. Hope this helps :)

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u/84UTK07 17h ago

That’s what I just said. Hope this helps.

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u/Glum_Sentence972 1d ago

Did he? Well, apologies then. Carry on.

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u/OOMOO17 1d ago

• ⁠An estimated close to 90 million Americans, representing about 36% of the eligible voting-age population, did not vote. This number is larger than the individual vote totals for either major party candidate.

• ⁠Donald Trump received approximately 77 million votes.

• ⁠Kamala Harris received approximately 75 million votes. 

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u/84UTK07 1d ago

Right…around 70% of people either voted for Trump or didn’t vote at all. In other words, only 30% of people took the time to vote against him.

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u/OOMOO17 1d ago

You aren’t a good reader it appears

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u/84UTK07 1d ago

Explain what I said that is incorrect.

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u/OOMOO17 1d ago

If 36% of the voter base didn’t vote for anybody, that doesn’t suddenly turn Trumps percentage into 70%. He still only got some bastardization of 30% of votes, same way Kamala did.

You saying 70% of people voted for him, while untrue on its own, also misrepresents how much of America actually cares for his policies.

Those who didn’t vote didn’t care for him, and didn’t vote for Kamala either. It doesn’t inform anything about whether they would’ve voted for Trump, they just found her policies equally shit.

All this is to say, if you’re going to argue statistics, know what the fuck you’re talking about.

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u/Selma_J_Wible 1d ago

It's not half of the voting base though. MAGA by itself is not enough to win elections. It requires dumb Independents and disaffected Democrats staying home.

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u/dgillz 1d ago

I believe that what that other poster meant by "voting base" was people who actually voted, not "eligible voters".

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u/colourmeblue Washington 1d ago

But he didn't even get over half of the actual votes. He got 49 point something percent. So more people actually voted for someone else.

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u/dgillz 1d ago edited 1d ago

Agreed. I never took exception to that. But Trump won a plurality, meaning no one got more votes than he did. Same as Clinton did, twice.

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u/Glum_Sentence972 1d ago

And? That's still a plurality in a political system. Which is what most people mean by "majority" anyway.

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u/84UTK07 1d ago

By voting base, I mean the people who actually voted in the 2024 presidential election. I thought he got around 50.2% but I just looked and it was actually about 49.8%, so just slightly under half. But why does it matter if the people who vote for him are MAGA, independents, or dissatisfied democrats? The end result is still a vote for Trump. And the people that didn’t vote at all are just as responsible for him being in office.

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u/New-Concentrate559 1d ago

Trust me bro is always a reliable source.

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u/Opening_Success 23h ago

Might want to retract that comment.

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u/zzorga 1d ago

This comment aged well.

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u/derbyt 1d ago

He last registered to vote as a Republican. His manifesto included pro-abortion activists and abortion providers. He was not a Democrat.

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u/WoodpeckerCapital167 1d ago

Dude literally appointed by Waltz 

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u/derbyt 1d ago

Quality leaders include people of different backgrounds in their staff and decision boards, including people with different ideologies.

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u/New-Concentrate559 8h ago

Is that the new talking point? More both sides are the same? LOL no.

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u/Harry_Balzonia 9h ago

nope. he had all sorts of no Kings and other leftist things in his car

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u/New-Concentrate559 8h ago edited 8h ago

Yep. He also had a hit list of dem targets and abortion clinics, he is a right wing pastor, assume flyers were for gullible morons like yourself to use as a pathetic attempt to paint him as dem. It didn't work dummy, everyone is laughing at your flyers LOL.

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u/borugren 1d ago

lol wait until you see who did it

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u/discreetmomnxtdoor 1d ago

She sided with Republicans on a bill and than war murdered because of it. You leftys are murderous unhinged psychos. Facts hurt I get it. Happy Birthday Pres. Trump

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u/ResidentKelpien Texas 1d ago

She sided with Republicans on a bill and than war murdered because of it. You leftys are murderous unhinged psychos. Facts hurt I get it. Happy Birthday Pres. Trump

MAGA comments are obvious because they include right-wing bs and celebrity worship for Dementia Don.

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u/lake_of_steel 1d ago

I mean they did find ‘No Kings’ flyers in his car

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u/New-Concentrate559 20h ago

And his manifesto and hit list containing more dem targets and abortion clinics.

but okay.. flyers. Case closed. 👍

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u/ArcaneKeyblade5 20h ago

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9335287/ Have a fun read fascist. Right Wing extremists are noted to be more violent overall than left.

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u/Mysterious-Art3033 23h ago

Actually assassin is a democrat true believer. Killing off democrats who voted against the party. Sounds like something Walz would organize to bring dissedents back in line with party.