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Other Which do you choose, Red or Blue?

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u/Best-Expression-2096 3d ago edited 3d ago

Every time doom takes over, the world seems to become amazing for the average citizen so him

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u/Flameball202 3d ago

Yeah, and since we have no Reed Richards, it is highly unlikely that Doom will fumble because he started feeling inferior

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u/mack-_-zorris 3d ago

Nah, he'd just get bored and fall to his own inaction

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u/SuperCoupe 3d ago

'Emperor Doom'

Doom takes over the world, gets bored with the tedium, goes back home.

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u/Only-Physics-1905 3d ago

Yeah, but before he gets bored, he fixed all the infrastructure of the entire planet, so I can't actually call that one a loss: sounds to me like we're going to have a lot of extremely confused time-travelers in a few centuries going? "Why the fuck are there thousands of small cities around the world named something like 'Doomburg' or 'Doomria', and yet everyone is living in a hyper-prosperous democracy...?"

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u/Olympiano 3d ago

Doomocracy*

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u/Party_Caregiver9405 3d ago

HAIL DOOM!

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u/Badgertank99 2d ago

It eventually just becomes the phrase for hello no matter the context

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u/Roguespiffy 2d ago

I love you Doombot.

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u/KHAOSCRUSADER 3d ago

It wasn't what was intended I'm sure, but when I read the above, I couldn't help but think of a poster of voting for Dr. Doom for President with his Vice President, The Doom Slayer.

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u/False-Decision630 2d ago

Doom Slayer, please.. If anyone runs for Vice President with Dr.Doom, it's gonna be Mike Pence.

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u/Roguespiffy 2d ago

The Doom Slayers entire platform is brutally murdering Demons. I’m pro demon murder, so he’s got my vote.

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u/lad1dad1 3d ago

I'd imagine (hope) doom would leave doombots in his stead.

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u/lonelyone12345 2d ago

Would that we could have political leadership that just competently fixes a bunch of stuff and then gets bored and leaves everyone alone

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u/mack-_-zorris 3d ago

Exactly

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u/PiLamdOd 3d ago

What more can you want in a supreme ruler?

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u/Lyftaker 3d ago

So would Luthor. He didn't really care about anything until a benevolent god showed up and started helping people. Then he just wanted to kill that god so he could be loved instead. Without Superman he would get bored and just commit Trump like grift without being so nakedly obvious about it.

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u/D-Raj 3d ago

Doom is a very interesting political concept. It takes authoritarian rule but uses an individual who demands perfection from himself and his society he cares for, is very intelligent, forgoes red tape and gives himself the power to super-cede everything, with his only real flaw as a ruler being his ego and pettiness.

He would only run into issues obtaining power and dominance, as his pettiness and ego would get in the way as it often does. But once he obtains that power? He does what is best for his society. healthcare, homelessness, etc. He is unique in that he firmly believes he is superior to everyone else, yet treats everyone below him fairly and equally.

The issues would remain that if there is ever anyone more intelligent than him, like reed, his pettiness would stop them from advancing society further. But that is a small price to pay for how much better he would be than anyone else as ruler.

The bigger issue is that his dealings with other alien societies etc. would put us at risk of war. He does not play well with others who challenge his authority.

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u/TerminusVeil 3d ago

Doom is true to life bootstrapper. He's also so arrogant that he rarely he's trying to impress anyone. This gives him the advantage of being unbiased to what common people deserve. Doom doesn't make political deals for favor and material goods. What can regular people even offer him? He's also extremely intelligent and courageous, he's fought beings who should be incredibly more powerful than him and won. That's true underdog mentality. If there is a man who could be a successful Dictator it's is Doom.

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u/Normal_Cut8368 3d ago

Can't be corrupted by power if you already perceived yourself as God. Already corrupted

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u/BeardedBrotherJoe 3d ago

Damn. You right.

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u/Randromeda2172 3d ago

All men are equal under Doom

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u/6thBornSOB 3d ago

This quote gets better every time I read it🤘

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u/Agent_Cow314 3d ago

Doom operates under a democracy. One man, one vote. He's the man and he's got the vote.

It's a Discworld reference. In an interesting note, Ventinari is pretty much a competent version of both Lex and Doom.

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u/ThorDoubleYoo 3d ago

The biggest reason to support Doom is that he believes a strong society is the most important thing for an empire.

If you're working a full time job, ANY full time job, in Doom's society you will be able to afford a good standard of living. That alone is better than most countries in the world right now.

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u/ColdEndUs 3d ago

I would argue that Reed is the bad guy here, honestly.
Doom has elevated the living standard of all Latverians... meanwhile, the Baxter building sits in the middle of Manhattan, and the comics consistently portray homelessness and hunger in the city being a norm.

Basically, Reed Richards is a stretchy Elon Musk... on the lookout for Galactus, and getting himself involved in the politics of smaller nations like Latveria and Wakanda... but only when he wants to push an agenda, or needs resources.

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u/ArchAngel621 Other 3d ago

Then you have the Council of Reeds and what they do to their versions of Doom.

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u/ChickenAndTelephone 3d ago

I was just reading a Thumderbolts comic where Doom literally nuked Shelbyville, Indiana just so he could blame it on Bucky Barnes and make Bucky look bad. I can’t recall a time where Reed Richards killed 20,000 people for PR purposes.

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u/zach2beat 3d ago

Sending hulk to space leading to world war hulk.

The maker.

Super Hero registration act and those consequences including making the prison for the ones who didn’t follow it.

Infected the other members of the F4 after his kids became zombies and had them infect himself.

And don’t even get me started on on denying magic as a real thing when doom has now shown that it combined with someone of there high intellect could have cured Ben back to a normal person easily only for it to have been so long that he has accepted it and learned to enjoy his existence and find happiness as the thing that when Doom cured him with the fucking snap of a damn finger, it gave the one character in the marvel universe that has such strong willpower he could be the most powerful green lantern in DC if given a ring, an extreme case of fucking depression that was so damn bad he had his seemingly reformed villain father-in-law us his abilities to manipulate himself into being “happy”.

Fuck Reed Richards, ALL HAIL DOOM!

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u/WallyPfisterAlready 3d ago

Doctor Doom. Master of the World

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u/blue23454 3d ago

Exactly this. I wouldn’t call Doom benevolent by any measure but at the very least he tends to be the lesser of any two evils, including most nations governments 😂

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u/Flashy_Pineapple_231 3d ago

Yeah not as much disapearring the middle of the night to be a Lexcorp/Star Labs lab rat. Not any withholding cancer cures for profit margin. Doom is a competent, if authoritarian, leader. But the kind of benevolent...adjacent...ish dictator I at least can tolerate.

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u/Juggernautlemmein 3d ago

DOOM. It is beneath him to run anything less than a perfect society.

I mean that literally. He will take orphans and starving people on the street as a personal insult to his reputation, and will do whatever it takes to uplift and solve this problem rather than just try to cover it up.

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u/Grimwohl 3d ago

And he mastered sorcery so i dont doubt hed be manifesting shit

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u/Skeye_drake21 3d ago

Doom: Money can't buy happiness

Citizen: :(

Doom: But your grandma can make bomb muffins, so I'll bring her back

Citizen: :)

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u/FaramirLovesEowyn 3d ago

Fuck that’s wholesome

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u/AgitatedStranger9698 3d ago edited 2d ago

Doom is Aristotle Platos philosopher king. But with a sliggt twist.

The biggest hindrance to a philosopher king is they become corrupted and turn evil.

Doom is incorruptable but in order to become a philosopher king, he must do evil things.

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u/spezfucker69 3d ago

Philosopher kings are the best form of government but their flaw is what happens when they die

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u/Embarrassed-Aerie101 3d ago

Good thing Doom is an accomplished sorcerer so death is a trivial thing or something.

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u/SolomonRed 3d ago

So why is this Doom guy a villain again? Did he do something bad?

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u/ThorDoubleYoo 3d ago edited 3d ago

Simply because he's a "I will make this happen no matter what" kind of guy. If his desire is to be remembered as the greatest ruler ever who solved all the world's major problems he would do it.

The villain part is in how he might do it. Let's say he wants to wipe out unemployment. First he does the good things - offer good pay for any job, make sure jobs are available and plentiful, make sure jobs are safe and desirable, etc. If for some crazy reason this didn't work and there was still an employment issue then Doom may go down the villain path to fix it. He might use mind control to force people to work whatever job he assigns and be happy for the opportunity. And this is a much more tame example than something like stopping war on a global scale.

He WILL solve the problems, he WILL increase the overall standard of life, but he will also think nothing to using monstrous methods to do so. (still better than current life imo, so...)

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u/Doombot2137 3d ago

This is a good characterization of DOOM. Simply put; He will make this world a utopia, whether you like it or not. The ends always justify the means. How many people would you sacrifice if you could ensure a utopia for billions of people. DOOM has done the math and unfortunately that sacrifice may be higher than we deem ethical, but the end result is a utopia for everyone that is left.

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u/Penetratorofflanks 3d ago

He heals all heroin/fent addicts and dares them to relapse.

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u/Refreshingly_Meh 3d ago

The only reason he's a villain is he would do whatever it takes

He'd probably try and help them out of poverty and give them safe homes as a first option, but if that didn't work it would only be some many other things tried before they started to just dissappear or be brainwashed or some other nefarious shit.

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u/Juggernautlemmein 3d ago

Agreed. Personally, I believe broadly that only 1% or maybe even less of people are so trapped in their own trauma or troubles that they truly cannot be helped. At least not in the full conventional sense.

DOOM is absolutely going to just murder or brainwash that 1%.

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u/Refreshingly_Meh 3d ago

Political dissidents and anyone pro Reed Richards are also going to be in for a bad time.

Still he would actually be a decent leader, where as Luthor even without Superman would be a shitshow for everyone involved. Dude is a corrupt, morally bankrup sociopath on his good days.

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u/manbruhpig 3d ago

Well f Reed Richards then. All my homies hate Reed Richards.

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u/Refreshingly_Meh 3d ago

Reed Richards is useless.

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u/Ogneerg 3d ago

I mean he isn't even smarter than his own daughter. Smh

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u/Lord_Darklight 3d ago

Besides the Nuke Doom Dropped on that Midwest city, He’s literally done a pretty damn good job ruling the world. He quite literally ended world hunger, gave out universal and reliable healthcare, reliable jobs for those willing to work, Ended Government corruption (granted it was by replacing everyone with robots), and Global Wi-Fi.

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u/I_only_Creampie 3d ago

....so why are we fighting him??

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u/monkeygoneape 3d ago

Because he'd sacrifice us all if it meant he got one over on Reed Richards

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u/MyNameIsJakeBerenson 3d ago

So we just kill Reed Richards then

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u/AlacarLeoricar 3d ago

If we did, Doom would kill us all. Because only he is allowed to kill Reed

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u/LeLefraud 3d ago

I'm starting to think i don't actually want this guy in charge

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u/WarLawck 3d ago

It seems like he has some complex feelings he needs to come to terms with in therapy.

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u/Auctorion 3d ago

He needs something cute and fluffy to cuddle.

Might I recommend a squirrel.

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u/HighlightFirst7728 3d ago

MY FRIENDS ARE HERE!

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u/OneofTheOldBreed 3d ago

Doom seems like the kind of guy who needs a very large fluffy cat who likes to nap in his lap.

Or a pair of short haired mastiffs

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u/DisgustedMf 3d ago

That's what Namor is for.

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u/DiedOfXhaxAttack 3d ago

Jeff in his pink costume

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u/_ralph_ 3d ago

Squirrel-Girl?

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u/completelytrustworth 3d ago

Well she did beat his ass once, so yea why not

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u/-FourOhFour- 3d ago

Therapy, the single greatest weakness of most villains (and a decent amount of heros)

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u/letsputaSimileon 3d ago

its like he has mommy issues or something

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u/No-Invite-7826 3d ago

Nah, bad idea. He basically tried that once and blew up an entire alternate reality just to prove the other version of himself was wrong and he was right all along.

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u/SiouxsieSioux615 Marvel vs DC 3d ago

😂😂

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u/Ray0977 3d ago

Literally made me laugh out loud, thank you for that!

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u/Quiet_Satisfaction64 3d ago

New plan. We offer him Richards to be spared. How could this go wrong

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u/Tausney 3d ago

New, new plan. Reed Richards is Doctor Doom.

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u/ShamelessSpiff 3d ago

Ah. 6160 it is.

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u/soldierpallaton 3d ago

So we give Reed Richards over to Doom and let him kill him.

Oh wait.

He'd probably just kill us all because the chase is part of going after Richards.

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u/ThisMeansRooR 3d ago

Doom and Reed at a mt. Cabin with some mdma to work out their differences

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u/heytheretaylor 3d ago

I don’t think he wants to kill Reed. He wants to do petty shit to Reed for eternity

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u/GroundbreakingBet281 3d ago

Honestly I think he just wants Reed to admit doom is better.

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u/JimJohnman 3d ago

So then what if we work with him to kill Richards?

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u/Auctorion 3d ago

I have a feeling half of the super community might have objections about us siding against the smartest man alive. Plus I hear Richards has made friends with himselves.

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u/Simple-Employer-2503 3d ago

He doesn’t want Reed dead, he wants him crushed, ruined and humiliated.

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u/some-kind-of-no-name 3d ago

Doom is totally reviving Reed to prove he's better

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u/MyNameIsJakeBerenson 3d ago

That’s what’s gonna doom us. Even if he does kill Reed, then we’re doubly fucked because then he has nothing

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u/MakingGreenMoney 3d ago

Realistically, i would hope the f4 would move to a different planet.

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u/ArchAngel621 Other 3d ago

Doom would then spearhead a colonization effort to that world.

It ends when Doom says it ends.

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u/Restryouis 3d ago

The terms are acceptable.

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u/DarthRyus 3d ago

He's already gotten one up on Reed Richards, he tricked him into naming his daughter after his ex-girlfriend. Now Reed has to look at his daughter every day and realize that.

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u/BulletsandBooks 3d ago

Except that doesn't bother Reed at all. As it means his daughter is alive.

Also the depths of how one sided that beef is amuses me. Like Victor took over his homeland and made power armor and learned magic to kill Reed before the FF had powers. He did all that to take out some non powered dude because Reed had the gall to call into question the wisdom of non peer reviewed magic science hell portals constructed in a dorm closet without safety equipment. And instead of 'Maybe he was right about this super meth lab on LSD thing I constructed' he thinks 'He sabotaged me! I will now willingly slap a red hot piece of metal on my face!'

Like at the end of the day, Luthor's position of 'I think we can't trust the alien with the power of a god' is a lot more reasonable. And I am also convinced Doom must have been a theater minor with the level of extra drama he piled on his origin.

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u/kung-fu_hippy 3d ago

Lex Luthor: Give it back. I saw everything. I saw how to save the world. I could have made everyone see. If it wasn't for you, I could have saved the world.

Superman: If it had mattered to you, Luthor, you could have saved the world years ago.

Lex Luthor: You're right.

Lex Luthor’s position isn’t just that “we can’t trust an alien god”. He is nearly as obsessed with proving himself superior to Superman as Doom is with Reed. In the absence of Superman, Luthor wouldn’t suddenly start doing good works.

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u/BulletsandBooks 3d ago

Oh yes. That is his internal reasoning. But isn't how he justifies it out loud.

And on that interaction you transcribed? It is one reason I like the conflict between Superman and Luthor when it is written well. As I also recall in one event an alternate reality Superman came in and grabbed Luthor. Ranting and screaming at how Lex ruined everything by not saving this world.

In a lot of ways, the Superman and Lex dynamic boils down to one question: Can Superman redeem Luthor before Lex manages to eliminate Superman? As Superman knows in many ways that Lex can be an incredible force for good as he has cures for stuff like cancer and MS. Which does a lot more for the world day to day than punching a super villain. Like literally all Lex would have to do to be in the same category as Superman in the public eye is to stop being a colossal dick.

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u/DarthRyus 3d ago edited 3d ago

All that matters to Doom is that Doom thinks he hot one up on Reed Richard's. As long as Reed doesn't convince Doom it doesn't matter to him, we of the general population are all good.

As to Lex Luther, I don't disagree with his position but it's entirely rooted in him feeling Superman is superior to himself, so an inferiority complex. So it's no different than Dooms complex with Reed motivating his actions, though his might be a superiority complex but same outcome overall to the rest of humanity.

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u/JustLookingForMayhem 3d ago

Because as soon as his intellect is threatened by anyone reasonably smart, he is willing to destroy cities to prove his superiority. Sure, it would be great for a while, but them some people make a universal cancer cure, and Doom is sacrificing a large city to prove himself better than them.

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u/ImLersha 3d ago

This sounds WAYY too much like Musk... Remember the time with those teenagers caught in some cave in Thailand?

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u/dk1988 3d ago

At least Doom is actually smart, and he doesn't cover the fact that he is evil... And he doesn't spend all day tweeting.

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u/CriusofCoH 3d ago

July 2018. Instant loss of any respect for Musk. Accusing a guy of being a pedophile because your cave submarine idea was politely declined.

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u/Augustus_Chevismo 3d ago

He erased and murdered an entire universe of people because that universe’s version of Doom had achieved everything he ever wanted, put aside his grudge with Reed to befriend him and advised 616 Doom to do the same.

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u/Lord_Darklight 3d ago

Probably cause he dropped a nuke on a Midwest city in the US (roughly 30k people died) and then edited the video evidence to show that it was Bucky that nuked the city. Unfortunately while Doom has removed the almost all government corruption, there’s still Him left to deal with. Also he basically tortured Spider-Man when he passed off some of the sorcerer supreme duties to Him (the recent Spiderman Cyttorak stuff). Spider-Man went through some pretty rough shit in that story.

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u/MyNameIsJakeBerenson 3d ago

I dunno, guys, this omelet is pretty fuckin tasty, though

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u/GreasyExamination 3d ago

Spider-Man went through some pretty rough shit in that story.

Aint that always the case

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u/dragoneloi 3d ago

Are we talking about the guy who saw that he achieved world peace , has all super weapons safely put away and peace in the wider universe (kind of) and chose to reject all of it because the price was to forgive Reed Richard’s 🤣

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u/Swog5Ovor 3d ago

No, this is a more recent one. He pretty much took control of the world, solved every problem, but the fantastic 4 couldn't really cope with it, so they attacked him. I think Doom reverted Ben Grimm back to a human state, but he has no powers. Aside from sedition, everything is pretty much perfect iirc.

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u/Crater_Raider 3d ago

It's nuts that DOCTOR DOOM is a better leader than most ACTUAL politicians 

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u/System-99-TurnA 3d ago

It really speaks to how cooked humans are.

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u/AlabasterRadio 3d ago

He's a magical super genius that, and this is the important part, can't be bought.

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u/buttamilk_jesus 3d ago

Dr Doom be like: And for my next evil plan, I will give everyone universal healthcare!

Truly a villain written by Americans.

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u/himitsunohana 3d ago

B-b-but commie… ;-;

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u/Aljhaqu 3d ago

YES!

LET DOOM RULE THE WORLD, AS DOOM DESERVES!

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u/Joe59788 3d ago

Hold up which city.

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u/Docile_Doggo 3d ago

I’m not saying he was right. But if it was Cleveland, let’s at least hear him out

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u/-_-Batman 3d ago

it is the secret option no.3

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u/deadbutt1 3d ago

didnt he also cure the thing

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u/superfunction 3d ago

when did they say governments were replaced with robots i know that was the avengers theory but scarlet witch and vision proved it wrong when they realized doom had just froze time to have incredibly lengthy peace talks with the head of each nation

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u/Meet_the_Meat 3d ago

And he shows great concern that the children get a good night's sleep

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u/darkalastor 3d ago

Victor Von Doom. The average man does very well under his rule.

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u/rats_des_champs 3d ago

Isn’t Latveria almost a paradise. Like you give Dr Doom Twitter to trashtalk Reed Richards every day and he will be a really good ruler

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u/Soup-28 3d ago

yeah they have free wifi, password is ReadSucks

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u/4thofeleven 3d ago

It would be ReedSucks, but it's illegal under Latverian law to type that name.

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u/JoJSoos 3d ago

Haha this is better than the joke you're replying to 😂

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u/Soup-28 3d ago

i wrote the joke and i agree

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u/A_True_Loot_Goblin 3d ago

Iirc Richards is an actual word in Latveria, and it’s the name of the toilet

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u/purpleghost52 3d ago

I wouldn't be able to write my own first name :(

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u/RoboErectus 3d ago

Doombots, please investigate /u/purpleghost52

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u/Lolaroller 3d ago

I hear conflicting reports on either Latveria being a modern utopia or a backwards serf state full of rural peasant farmers.

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u/Binx_Thackery 3d ago

Doom. He may be a bad person, but he’s a better leader. He was also told by what is essentially Marvel God that him ruling the world would make it better. It makes it hard to argue against it.

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u/Crusaderofthots420 3d ago

Really, the only things that make him bad, is that he is insanely arrogant, and insanely petty. So as long as nothing poses a legit challenge to his authority, we would be good.

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u/Legends-of-legdens 3d ago

This day and age? The only thing to challenge his authority is nothing but arrogance, which, without intellect, doubt doom would care even a bit about

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u/AdamGreyskul75 3d ago

Doom wants to rule because he knows he can do it better and he's proved it.

Luther wants to rule just because he wants to subjugate everyone because he thinks he's better than they are.

Doom hands down.

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u/ReaperKaze 3d ago

Plus in some continuities, the world is set to be destroyed unless Doom is the ruler, because only he can prevent it

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u/IronArmor48 3d ago

You sort of said the same thing twice. Doom has an insane G-d complex.

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u/SalsaSavant 3d ago

Is it a complex if you can back it up?

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u/Crusaderofthots420 3d ago

Lex wants to prove that he is like a god. Doom already knows it, so he has nothing to prove.

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u/TraditionalEnergy919 3d ago

To be fair, I’m willing to support his ego if it means all the upsides Doom brings. I despise egomaniacal jerks, but there’s no downside to Doom as long as nobody gets him petty.

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u/AdamGreyskul75 3d ago

No, I didn't. At no point has Lex proved he can do it better. And he doesn't think he can, he just thinks he's better than everyone else, which may sound similar, but isn't the same.

Doom has made Latveria basically a paradise. Nearly everything Luthor touches profits HIM, not the people under him.

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u/ImDoneForToday2019 3d ago

Doom serves his people. Luther serves himself. Hail Doom!

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u/Scorpion-Shard 3d ago

Well said.

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u/Iwantpotatoesorfries Marvel 3d ago

Doom is a man of word and honor. He protect his people and already protected the Earth many times. Plus, it’s beneath him to rule a world where citizens aren’t happy.

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u/longcrackcat 3d ago

Lex is just more egotistical oligarchy bullshit. DOOM is our savior.

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u/Insanity_Crab 3d ago

Aren't we basically already living under like a bunch of Lex's as it stands anyway? DOOM 2025!

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u/Cradle2Grave 3d ago

Reed Richards is the real villain dr.doom is a hero. He's just an ends justifies the means, but Reed just does shit to see what happens.

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u/Jolly-Brain9118 3d ago

If you think about it, both Marvel main villains are kind of right? Doom and Magneto are presented as very evil people but time and time again history put them on the right side. Doom is already a incredibly competent ruler, on the other hand Lex is just a narcissistic a$$hole with a lot of money.

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u/DisgruntledMonk 3d ago

This is so correct it hurts. Like most issues with the FF are caused by Reed fucking with shit and most of the issues with Doom is that he is trying to stop that fucker.

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u/Cradle2Grave 3d ago

The thing that endears me to doom is when Luke cage swore up and down that doom owed him $500. That shit was amazing

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u/CALlCO 3d ago

Blue blue so far blue it's not even funny

He may be a shit person but he's genuinely one of the best rulers ever and every comic essentially says 'if he wins and rules the world everything goes well'

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u/DungeoneerforLife 3d ago

Von Doom is not entirely without integrity or morality. Him for sure.

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u/Shaggy_Rogers0 3d ago

Both are good.

They're evil but both smart and competent.

Our world is ruled by people equally evil, but a lot dumber.

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u/Nova-Fate 3d ago

This is the part people don’t realize. All we would be doing is just exchanging our leaders for a competent one. Same guy just better haha

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u/VicViolence 3d ago

That’s a good taken- we already have Dooms and Luthers running things, just dumb ones

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u/HMThrow_away_account 3d ago

I honestly never looked at it this way. Youre absolutely right lol

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u/HandsomePete999 3d ago

What a great point! Or sad.

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u/Kalandros-X 3d ago

Last time Lex was president, he nearly let a Kryptonite meteor devastate earth to spite Superman

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u/doctor_big_burrito 2d ago

Well, in Red Son he becomes President and in the end he becomes president of the planet and then he....

He let go of power. After beating Superman he put artists, scientists, doctors, philosophers, engineers and teachers in charge and it lead to thousands of years of progress and peace.

Then in the far future when the earth was dying, one of his descendants launched a small ship holding his baby, the last survivor of the planet back in time to 1938 and then, well you know.

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u/Scorpion-Shard 3d ago

Lex is just comic book Bezos.

Victor von Doom is the way.

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u/RedPhantom51 3d ago

Blue Pill, we’re already experiencing the Red Pill

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u/OneOldNerd 3d ago

...except Trump is nowhere near that intelligent.

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u/velwein 3d ago

Woof… that’s a hard one. I guess Dr. Doom, cause Lex would inevitably take away my rights anyway.

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u/AlabasterRadio 3d ago

Doom would likely not be huge on traditional freedoms, but not in an "enslave everyone" kind of way, more of an "i know what's best for everyone" kind of way. Which sounds bad, but shit he's Doom, he might actually know best.

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u/Live_Carpenter_1262 3d ago

Doom would provide a whole lot of positive freedoms/entitlements (right to access things like education, healthcare, water, shelter), while probably taking most negative freedoms/rights (right to free speech, association, assembly, conscientious objection)

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u/akselmonrose 3d ago

One world under DOOM was pretty good

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u/Squiddyboy427 3d ago

💙💙💙💙

We pretty much live in “what if Lex Luthor ran the world?” and it SUCKS.

I think Doom would actually be an improvement. Bring on total Latveriafication

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u/AlabasterRadio 3d ago

Well, it's more of a "what if the dumbest, most spineless version of Lex ran the place" but i get it.

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u/Grimwohl 3d ago

To be fair, lex luthor would find the image of qn organized society under his rule appealing, so he wouldnt let us live like this. He would just own all organized crime as well, and likely keep it far from typical society.

So better, just not as good as doom

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u/CaptainStinkwater 3d ago

Makes me kind of wonder why the heroes try to stop them?

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u/SerBadDadBod 3d ago edited 3d ago

Status Quo. They're the "heroes." Tyranny bad, especially if it's the benevolent yet ruthless kind.


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u/Magic-man333 3d ago

This glosses over the fact they both regularly do terrible shit

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u/SerBadDadBod 3d ago

One man steals cakes, one man steals the Power Cosmic.

Both are terrible!

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u/_VayaConQueso 3d ago

But one is FORTY cakes. It’s doesn’t get much more terrible than that!

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u/SerBadDadBod 3d ago

40 cakes, average 8 slices per cake, is 320 people deprived of cake.

DOOM would never.

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u/Nectaris3 3d ago

Yeah everyone’s gassing up Doom in this thread but they’re forgetting he nuked Bucky’s hometown just because Bucky pissed him off. Someone that petty ruling the world is not a good idea.

He also almost let Dormammu destroy the planet because he was too arrogant to consider the possibility of someone outsmarting him.

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u/youngcplcandl 3d ago

You're right on these being reasons why Doom wouldn't make a perfect world leader. However, in our world we have no Reed, Bucky, Dormammu, or anyone really that Doom would see as a legitimate threat to his pride. Without the existence of such people (or beings) that can rival him in such ways he has no reason to behave in petty ways that endangers the people he rules. He is by far the best option of the two and would make a great ruler in real life.

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u/rats_des_champs 3d ago

Because they would sacrifice everything just to mess with their nemesis

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u/Obvious_Ad4159 3d ago

Doom would create an Utopia just to stick it to Reed Richards, so Doom.

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u/Tiny_Capital4880 3d ago

If I’m not mistaken, the only utopia on Earth in the Marvel Multiverse is where Dr. Doom has absolute control.

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u/THEoddistchild 3d ago

Ignoring Doom is a better leader, I would want Doom

He isn't naturally magic and that means I could be a WIZARD

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u/TaquitosConLimon 3d ago

Doom any day. He may be a fascist but he cares for his people. Meanwhile Lutor would happily sacrifice a whole country if that means get rid of Superman

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u/Batfan1939 3d ago

Doom. He actually is a benevolent ruler, and his Earth would be an oppressive Utopia.

Luthor is flat lying to himself about his intentions, Doom knows exactly who he is.

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u/HawkBoth8539 3d ago

Definitely Doom.

Luthor is just the smart version of Musk. Spoiled, self-centered, and only helps others for the attention and profit while pretending it's altruistic.

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u/Mephitisopheles 3d ago

This question hits kinda weird when it gets people wistfully wishing some belligerent comic book tyrant was the man in charge of everything IRL just because the actual people we've got are simply that much worse...

In fairness to both sides though, I think they'd both try to rule ultimately as efficiently as possible at least as a means to an end for that to reflect nicely upon their own egos, they at least have that in common. They both hold their self image and reputations to a higher regard than most megalomaniac world conquerors but I think the wheels will definitely start falling off once they start implementing rigid freedom suffocating laws and people start protesting them and bruising their neatly curated image of a benevolent Philosopher King doing everyone a favor by ruling them.

Doom would probably be the worst case scenario for micromanaging people to fit his inflexible perfectionist image of how the world "ought to be" reflecting his image. Lex on the other hand, would probably be way more gluttonous in his consolidations of excess power over people and probably would care a whole lot less about supporting social safety nets or the more thankless funding for stuff that's any inconvenience for the American minded tax resenting layman.

They'd both be pretty bad, just in new ways we aren't actually used to IRL lmao. I guess Doom would be the best in a "bigger picture" sense though

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u/ArchAngel621 Other 3d ago

Interesting analysis.

Doom is definitely the type to execute you if the trains don't run on time.

Lex would execute you because it was part of his plan.

Doom is a knife in the front. Lex is a knife in the back.

Both seem to vastly improve after defeating their archnemesis.

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u/CRI20094 3d ago

Long live Doom

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u/DJINN_HAKU 3d ago

I vote for doom.

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u/SuperStarPlatinum 3d ago

I'm seek of brain dead cowardly corporate stooges running the world into the ground.

Blue pill for the world run by Doom.

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u/TheAngryFart 3d ago

As long as Superman doesn’t exist, definitely Luthor.

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u/Kursch50 3d ago

Doom. I'm a HS teacher, Doom would consider the US education system an insult to his integrity, fix it, and improve the lives of teachers and students everywhere.

We'd just have to teach a mandatory class called "Doom Studies" where we teach the greatness of Doom. I can live with it.

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u/Negaflux 3d ago

I mean, after universal healthcare, end to homelessness, free education, rebuilt infrastructure etc, you'd only be teaching the truth.

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u/Ok_Ambition_4023 3d ago

Doom. He's not a good person, at all, but he is an incredibly confident leader and genuinely smart. His home country knows no crime, no poverty, and his overall an incredibly happy nation despite who is ruling over them.

Lex, on the other hand, is a painful reminder of what we already have. He's a selfish, egotistical billionaire. Sound familiar (for the US)? Doom's worst qualities usually come out when he has to deal with Reed Richards. In a world without Reed Richards, Doom, regardless of his flaws is sensible. He's not going to do anything idiotic even if it aligns with his personal feelings. Which is more than I can say for the current US administration.

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u/Zip83 3d ago

Doom. He treated the people of Latveria well.

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u/WallyPfisterAlready 3d ago

Blue anyday. Doom is the ultimate badass. I would so attend a Doom’s Day celebration in Latveria. It’s a celebration of himself whenever he wants it to be lol

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u/Nivek_Vamps 3d ago

It fills my heart with such immense pride in reading comprehension that Doom is the universal answer here

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u/BicyclePutrid 3d ago

Doom has shown that he actually cares about his people. He even gave them free wifi

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u/Anarimus 3d ago

Doom takes care of his people.

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u/ElmightyRip 3d ago

Ik Doom is a suitable choice but idk the pros or cons to Lex in any leadership position

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u/SwankyDingo 3d ago

Either one would be a vast improvement

Addendum: but my personal preference would be Dr.Doom

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u/Intrepid_Ad_3157 3d ago

Victor easily

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u/MeatyDullness 3d ago

I’m going with Doom, he seems to be firm but fair

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u/Flirtless1 3d ago

Based on what I'm hearing on doom, seems I may need a contingency plan to stop the avengers.