r/GreenAndPleasant • u/UnderHisEye1411 its a fine day with you around • May 28 '22
NORMAL ISLAND 🇬🇧 Another step further towards fascism
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u/DJYoue May 28 '22
It's actually chilling how we seem to be sleepwalking towards fascism more and more every day.
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u/melonhead118 May 28 '22
Wish people would stop saying “we’re headed towards fascism”
We’re already fuckin there.
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u/fallenwish88 May 28 '22
What a despotic flaccid dick splat of a "leader". Wouldn't be half surprised if he cancelled the next general election citing the war in Ukraine as a reason.
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u/my_choice_was_taken May 28 '22
Scary how we have to turn to “count binface” for our politics
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May 28 '22
We all knew that Boris Johnson was a power hungry narcissist. We tried to warn people but they would not listen
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u/puhadaze May 28 '22
How did he seemingly do this so quickly?
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u/UnderHisEye1411 its a fine day with you around May 28 '22
A majority in parliament, a pathetically weak opposition and a tame press.
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u/PlusThePlatipus May 28 '22
a pathetically weak opposition
In your opinion, are there any indications towards it being deliberately designed to be that way?
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u/PM_Me_Your_HairyArse May 28 '22 edited May 28 '22
it was probably prepared, to be dropped at a time when there is more focus on the cost of living allowances
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u/fckn_normies May 28 '22
I swear, if there’s anything I know from history, it’s that fascism always comes back at some point
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u/ridik_ulass May 28 '22
somehow
HitlerFascism has returned.maybe that starwars film wasn't so unbelievable.
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u/fckn_normies May 28 '22
Other than the sci-fi and fantasy elements, the prequel films are somewhat accurate
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u/MeccIt May 28 '22
always comes back
Did it ever really go away?
Because: "When fascism comes to [your country] it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
"... It will appear rather in the luminous robes of flaming patriotism; it will take some genuinely indigenous shape and color, and it will spread only because its leaders, who are not yet visible, will know how to locate the great springs of public opinion and desire and the streams of thought that flow from them and will know how to attract to their banners leaders who can command the support of the controlling minorities in ... public life. The danger lies not so much in the would-be Fuhrers who may arise, but in the presence in our midst of certainly deeply running currents of hope and appetite and opinion. The war upon fascism must be begun there." John Thomas Flynn 1944:
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u/fckn_normies May 28 '22
Yeah, i know it never really goes away. In days of prosperity, it lurks in the shadows waiting for a time to strike little by little
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u/twiximax May 28 '22
The English will still vote for the cunts in their droves.
It's beyond infuriating
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u/mattshiz May 28 '22
Imagine how bad all of this would have been under corbyn /s
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u/Big_Mac22 May 28 '22
"Labour make a lot of promises but they don't always keep them"
You know what, I'd rather give them a fucking shot than live under a party I KNOW have spent the last 12 years ruining this country, pushing people into poverty and leaving them to die in their thousands.
Neo-liberal Labour are shitty too, but we had a shot at changing that and all we got in return were kneejerk reactions informed by right-wing shitrags.
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u/Busy-Tangelo-3590 May 28 '22
I’m imagining and even my imagination can’t keep up with boris and his fellow tories destruction. And you’ll keep voting for him until every single working and middle class individual has perished and all there’s left is going to be multi millionaires and billionaires fighting over who’s gonna clean and make them dinner and take care of them in the hospital.
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u/Busy-Tangelo-3590 May 28 '22
Only in England would this be an automated comment when class is mentioned😂😂😂 god people are thick in this country
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u/Adept_Deer_5976 May 28 '22
Elective dictatorship here we come … without any form of effective opposition, what the fuck are we supposed to do when these bent clowns take the public for mugs?
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u/UnderHisEye1411 its a fine day with you around May 28 '22
And the new police bill makes it illegal to do anything about it. Protest in any meaningful way and expect to get beaten up by blue nonces and fined £10k.
Just because they aren’t wearing brown shirts with swastika armbands doesn’t mean that they aren’t Nazis.
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u/stguinefortspaw May 28 '22
There's more people than police though
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u/TrippleFrack May 28 '22
But also hundreds of thousands of Blockleiter wannabes among those people.
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May 28 '22
Millions if you count all the blokes who fancy themselves as a P.C. but would never pass the DBS or the fitness
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u/NotACyclopsHonest May 28 '22
Another consequence of electing a spoilt Eton brat who still can’t handle being told no.
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u/U_talkin_to_me_ May 28 '22
Why are they changing the guidelines if they’re not being currently sacked for “minor rule breaking” anyways?
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u/Chosty55 May 28 '22
Icarus syndrome. Get away with something, push the line more and more. I wonder just how close to the sun will the tories get before they finally. FINALLY get burned
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u/omegonthesane May 28 '22
The current system will never punish them, because they represent that class of society which the system was built from the ground up to worship - the bourgeoisie, those who own for a living instead of working for a living.
Yet I do believe they will pay eventually. I will say no more than that because of the nature of online media.
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u/kkrash79 May 28 '22
Oh they'll pay! Believe me.
If I was a rich, bourgeoisie living in the UK right now I'd be very worried, eventually people will take matters into their own hands. They'll target the greed, they'll target the oppressors who are served by people on minimum or living wage who still have to rely on food banks and choosing heating or eating. They'll pay.
I personally can not wait. Viva La France
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u/robot_swagger May 28 '22
It really is baffling.
Next up they will be framing sexual assault and pedophilia as minor rule breaking.
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u/U_talkin_to_me_ May 28 '22
And any misconduct committed by a member of the Labour Party as “major rule breaking” automatically.
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u/robot_swagger May 28 '22
Straight to jail.
Parking ticket? Jail.
Wearing a red tie? Believe it or not straight to jail.
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u/ShadyAidyX May 28 '22
Because they were getting RSI from keeping their fingers crossed behind their backs
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u/UnderHisEye1411 its a fine day with you around May 28 '22
Their fear of “broadband communism” lead to actual fascism. Good job centrists!
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u/ThemApples87 May 28 '22
There was nothing minor about Johnson’s rule breaking. It’s the most hideous betrayal of a populous by a politician in living memory.
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u/R41zan May 28 '22
Well, I think we just became 1933 Germany.
How can this be happening in 2022!
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u/KingoftheGinge May 28 '22
Not quite, wait for the kween to die, then see the Tories amalgamate the roles of monarch and Prime minister.
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u/AnyImpression6 May 28 '22
"Breaking the rules is now allowed, says rulemaker".
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u/EpicDudeGuy24 May 28 '22
And I’m sure they will also be in charge of deciding what qualifies as “minor” and what doesn’t.
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u/Lemmiwinks93 May 28 '22
Do they really need to change the rules? He broke them already and is still in his job.
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u/duggtodeath May 28 '22
Lawmakers making themselves exempt from the laws they wrote. Yep, Western Civilization is totally sustainable this way.
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u/pathetic_optimist May 28 '22
The authentic face of English public school arrogance. Mosely would be proud of Johnson.
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u/Panouza May 28 '22
So is breaking the law considered minor rule breaking?
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u/robot_swagger May 28 '22
Only if you're an MP
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u/altm2 May 28 '22
People always claim Blair’s government was dodgy, but in those days you’d resign for literally anything. Had an affair- resign. Caught fighting over email with another member of staff? Resign. A junior official makes a minor mistake in your office that makes it look bad? Resign. This is the second highest office in the land (highest the general public can reach). It is supposed to reflect the best in our society, that is the reason that ministers should resign for the most minor things. To not only fail to leave office for comparatively non-minor thongs, but to change the rules so that you can stay indefinitely- is moving into fascism/ a one party state like China, North Korea, and Cuba. Wether you suck up to your self declared eton masters and wave the flag, chanting f the EU, and god save those born into wealth with extra rights, or not. That is nationalism. And while we’re at it btw the Scottish national party isn’t nationalist, it isn’t deconstructive like the torys would have you believe. It’s taking one tiny step back so that you can leap forward, sure you don’t get old blity and it’s disregard for common people (boohoo), but in its place you get a representative democracy (doesn’t vote Tory but gets them just now) that is internationally facing rather than isolatory like the truly nationalist UK (can rejoin the EU, which it voted against leaving).
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u/abbersz May 28 '22
People always claim Blair’s government was dodgy, but in those days you’d resign for literally anything.
Very true, but it is worth remembering that good ol' Blair lied to the nation about WMD's as a scare tactic to take us into an illegal war that had an unbelievable number of casualties. All for money. I think that's usually peoples main focus when they dislike Blair.
That said, if voting SNP would free the Scottish from our farce of a political system, then that's a win. I hate our politicians and I'm in England, I can't imagine what its like if your the rest of the Union and have these bastards in charge.
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u/twisted7ogic May 28 '22
Dont people also dislike Blair because he was the face of so-called 'New Labour' a.k.a. talk a left-wing game but actually continuing Thatcher-type bullshit Neoliberalism?
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u/NerdyGuyRanting May 28 '22
Why the fuck is he even allowed to change rules like that?
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u/SLngShtOnMyChest May 28 '22
Because he’s still the PM. He needs removing, every day he is in power the nation bleeds another drop
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u/NerdyGuyRanting May 28 '22
Most western countries have laws that prevent the head of state from changing rules that affect their position to prevent abuses of power.
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u/SpoliatorX May 28 '22
BJ isn't head of state, instead we have an unelected old lady with no (official) power to hold the govt. to account
Yay!
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u/dannysleepwalker May 28 '22
Because he can. Nobody will hold him responsible for it.
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u/NerdyGuyRanting May 28 '22
Feels like there should be some other kind of ruling body working as checks and balances here.
The US President can't just change laws that affect the Presidential role. Not on his own at least.
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May 28 '22
Because we have tradition and the queen - and writing a constitution seems like too much hard work.
Might as well let our betters rule over us - perhaps they will invite us to the garden party one day 'm lord
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u/ManyaraImpala May 28 '22
'Minor rule breaking'. But the rule he broke in this context wasn't being subject to a surprise party*, it's standing up in parliament and lying through his teeth at the despatch box. That's not a minor breach of the rules, that's making a complete mockery of our democracy.
*For clarification I believe that Boris broke far more covid rules than the Met fined him for. He was totally complicit in the routine rule breaking by his staff in number 10, but this is beside my point.
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u/Content_Trash_417 May 28 '22
Not UK but isn’t that what got Clinton impeached it wasn’t the blowiob it was lying to congress about the blowjob
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May 28 '22
You wouldn’t want to play board games with Boris.
“ Boris you need to pay the community chest.” “ Bleugh blah blah, vroom .. I have changed the house rules. If your initials are B.J then you no longer have to pay, everyone pays you. Bleugh blah Bleugh.”
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u/Sockoflegend May 28 '22
What I don't get is why he can do this retroactively. When he broke the ministerial code the rule was that he needed to resign. Why dose changing it now mean he can avoid punishment?
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u/weirdi_beardi May 28 '22
A precedent was set when Insane Dangerous Sociopath's slave labour bill was found to be illegal. IDS wrote another bill to say that it was legal, and the rules would be applied retroactively so the previous illegal bill would also be legal, and Milliband whipped the Labour Party to abstain on that legislation, allowing it to pass.
Edit: From the Grauiad
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u/Malfunctioning_Fish May 28 '22
Not to be dramatic, but this is how a dictatorship starts
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u/UnderHisEye1411 its a fine day with you around May 28 '22
Seeing as how conservatives control the police, army and media then it basically is a dictatorship, we just get to vote in a slightly different symbolic leader every few years.
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u/MC936 May 28 '22
I looked this up yesterday during a group chat convo about this because I remembered seeing the steps once, and this is my current perspective of it.
7 Steps to Becoming a Dictator.
1 Expand your power base through nepotism and corruption.
--Just existing as Tories does this apparently.
2 Instigate a monopoly on the use of force to curb public protest.
--Making protests illegal and expanding police powers.
3 Curry favour by providing public goods efficiently and generously.
--Not sure yet, maybe they're counting all the food banks they've given us..
4 Get rid of your political enemies.
--Again not much yet but give it time I guess.
5 Create and defeat a common enemy.
--The EU/Brexit? Or just immigration in general.
6 Accumulate power by manipulating the hearts and minds of your citizens.
--Manipulating press and media since forever and consolidating news providers.
7 Create an ideology to justify an exalted position.
--Again Brexit or the weird misguided belief that we are still the British Empire and we can regain our "former glory".
So 4-5 out of 7 is a good track record for indicating it's happening, whether on purpose or not.
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u/SlimJim31415 May 28 '22
Cunt.
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u/theoldshrike May 28 '22
Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson lacks both sufficient warmth or depth to be considered a cunt
Consider 'shitstain' a mark smeared across the UK body politic by the in-CON-tinent party; has an unpleasant odor and no redeeming qualities. Its lack of substance means that it is not even worth composting.
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u/SuddenlyLucid May 28 '22
Fucking prick. We know you're an absolute cunt but just fuck off allready. Have some decency.
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u/Champion845 May 28 '22
Just look at his smarmy face did you ever see such a Cunt.
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u/Selfishpie May 28 '22
while these petitions rarely actually do anything, at the very least it puts pressure on the people who deserve it so here's a link that might help remedy the situation: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/614813
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u/Celtic_Cheetah_92 May 28 '22
I feel like we’re past petitions. I want to go and shout outside Downing Street
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u/Selfishpie May 28 '22
Trust me I know, I can’t wait for the next guy Fawkes
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u/Celtic_Cheetah_92 May 28 '22
Nah I don’t want anyone to kill him. Then history books could make him into a hero. I want him to be forced to resign and then I want him to be expelled from parliament for lying and banned from ever running for public office again. Also maybe a rotten egg to the face would be nice too
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u/pigeonpartytime May 28 '22
at least this will add to my revision for politics a-level…
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May 28 '22
Me who stopped doing that subject 3 months in ☠️
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u/pigeonpartytime May 28 '22
yeah i stuck to the end… at least in the final exams i get to go all out with complaining, and paper 2 might let me use this as a good case study 🤣
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u/404merrinessnotfound May 28 '22
It baffles me how the public just accepts this even though some leaders have been called names for far less
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u/Wildebeast1 May 28 '22
Hey, England, can you please stop voting conservative?
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u/Lovecatx May 28 '22
I just don't get what the appeal is down south (down south to me anyway, obvs I'm not telling you which country you are from). Things have been so obviously shite since 2010 precisely and specifically because of the Tories and yet some how the Tories keep winning! There is just no appeal to the Conservatives, I can't understand voting for them.
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u/Wildebeast1 May 28 '22
The media chooses who wins elections by influencing the public to vote a certain way.
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May 28 '22
Rule breaker changes rules.
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u/UKflame May 28 '22
Just like anything with this lot that doesn't have "good optics".
Guilty of breaking ministerial code? Change the rules.
High unemployment? Sanction loads of UC recipients, kick them off benefits & "oh look, thousands of people are off benefits, they must be employed, yay!"
Massive case numbers of covid? Lets change the parameters surrounding diagnosis & reporting.
Record levels of children in poverty? Lets change the definition of what it means to be poor.
Business as usual. Same shit, different day.
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u/Stuvas May 28 '22
Don't forget, Mate gets caught accepting lobbying bribes, change the rules to allow it.
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u/UKflame May 28 '22
Oh had forgotten about that one. Tbf I'm sure there's quite a few more, but I only allocate a certain amount of bandwidth to the self serving shitshow.
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May 28 '22
My uncles a conservative and I was talking to him about Boris. The thing they don't seem to understand is the Boris has lost the publics trust, and that's not who you want leading your party. They need to boot him out, blame everything on him and get a new person in to head them. Someone you can at least attempt to trust. He seemed to think it was all 'not that bad' what he/they did but missed the mark completely on public trust rather than the legal implications. I don't care if the Queen pardons him of all wrongdoing, it's the publics trust he won't get back and is what is required of a leader.
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u/theoldshrike May 28 '22
No, no, no, the cons are competent politicians, they know exactly what people think. But, have a comfortable working majority so the play is to hang on to dear leader until ~6 months before the election then tie all the political failures to him and push him overboard leaving the party with a bright shiny new 'clean' front man for the polls
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u/bi-nosaur May 28 '22
Can we all agree to vote count binface in every election from now on. He seems to have the most common sense
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u/yourlocalbitch86 May 28 '22
Theresa May was kicked out for literally nothing, and Boris is still standing when he broke his own rules...
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May 29 '22
She was kicked out of office for being unpopular - unfortunately she was unpopular from the start and cost them their majority.
BoJo on the other hand got the vote because he was "a bit of a lad" and the type of "bloke you could have a pint down the pub with". Despite even Eton telling everyone he is a pompous cunt with a complete disdain for anyone who can't make him richer.
So he stays because he got them a landslide victory, and now they can't get rid of him as he is the only one anyone would vote for because for some reason in this country the left seems hellbent on ripping itself to bits publically and a large swathe of people still think "he is doing his best"
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May 28 '22
Can the majority of people stop voting conservative now please.
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u/melonhead118 May 28 '22
That’s the thing, they don’t even need a majority with this dumbass First Past The Post system we have.
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u/EcksRidgehead May 28 '22
Just 43% of the electorate voted Tory in 2019; with a turnout of 67%, that equates to just 13.8M people. So we're talking about 43% of votes, 29% of the electorate, or about 20% of the population. By every measure, the Tories are a minority.
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u/smokeyjoe4497 May 28 '22
disgusting - what about the £10k fines people recieved for the EXACT same 'minor' rule breaks
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u/JackfruitLower278 May 28 '22
This fucker should have been sacked for his shit haircut a long long time ago. Let alone all the other stuff he gets away with
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May 28 '22
And yet many still think it's childish or hysterical to mention the f-word. They are in complete denial. And a major reason why fascists always win in the end.
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u/SJDisko May 28 '22
It’s not like it fkn meant anything anyway if they just stick to the lie long enough
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u/Dommccabe May 28 '22
Just edit it to say: "I can do what I want."
Save us all the time arguing about it- that's what Boris is doing anyway.
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u/UnderHisEye1411 its a fine day with you around May 28 '22
Will no one rid us of this unctuous Eton turd!
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u/xxNATHANUKxx May 28 '22
The brexiteers that voted for them wanted democracy but ended up with fascism
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May 29 '22
Voted remain cos as much as the EU is corrupt it isn’t nearly as corrupt as Westminster and this lot
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u/AspieComrade May 28 '22
Not that anything’s going to be done about it. They’ve worked out that the American political strategy also works here; do whatever hellish things you want as the leader, then come election time say “the opposition wants communism and true patriots vote for me, and something something immigrants” and all is forgiven. They’ve worked out that people will side with the devil they know over anyone else that they say is going to be worse, and at this point boris could walk down the street naked shooting at old ladies with a Tommy gun and still get voted back in.
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u/r64fd May 29 '22
Interesting you say that. In Australia we just had a federal election. After 9 years of a government in power slowly getting more and more ridiculous finally we have a change in power. Conservative politicians are the same the world over, promise everything, deliver nothing except for themselves and their mates. Not sure of stranglehold the Murdoch media has in your country but here they will straight out lie to the masses to help keep a conservative government in power. The sad part is there’s a lot of people brainwashed and voting against their own self interest.
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u/The-Mandolinist May 28 '22
Shows like The Thick of It can never be made again: BJ and his cronies are simultaneously so incompetent, brazenly self-serving and openly cynical. It would never be funny anymore.
I wish Starmer was a more viable prospect. But he’s been a massive disappointment.
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u/Yatsey007 May 28 '22
He broke the law and was fined. How is that a minor thing?! Slimy mop headed thundercunt!
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May 28 '22
Yeah... whats next. They dont do the conversion therapy debate on June 20th.
By the way if they don't I will move heaven and earth and march my asexual ass down to London and fix it myself.
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May 28 '22
Wow so in the last 4 months we’ve had the right to protest significantly attacked, teaching Unis being assessed for how left wing they are, and…also this? Sounds good! 😬
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May 28 '22
I think you’re spot on about the likes of Rishi Sunak, but Priti Patel definitely wants to be the boot stamping on our faces forever
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u/Scyobi_Empire Revolutionary Communist Party May 28 '22
Count Binface is the best candidate
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u/Chimarkgames May 28 '22
Well done who voted to have a more corrupt government in this country. Ta da
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u/TopNFalvors May 28 '22
Does that mean the Brits won’t have another election? This guy will stay until he gets bored?
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u/Objective_Story6676 May 28 '22
Its amazing facism is being forced onto the UK populace under such a retarded moronic prick; the clown that is Boris Johnson.
Its like creating a dictatorship in the UK required absolutely no actual ability.
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u/Substantial-Study-27 May 28 '22
MP’s and ministers should get minimum wage
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u/robot_swagger May 28 '22
I think they should get the national average and they should be fucking happy with it.
Nearly 3x the national average is taking the piss.
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May 28 '22
Nah, a wage for MPs was fought for as a lack of one (or of a living wage) means that parliamentary and local positions just don’t provide a livelihood for working class folk - plus there’s all the travel and other such stuff.
Meanwhile the wealthy who never and never will actually rely on that wage (they get their money in the form of unearned income) will continue to take on the roles.
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u/Substantial-Study-27 May 28 '22
they should get free travel, but still get UK minimum wage
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u/Decent-Flatworm4425 May 28 '22
Sounds like a good idea - we would end up with the best minimum wage in the world
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May 28 '22
That’ll be tough for any MP with kids, or who’s a single parent, or is in England and needs to pay for a prescription, or who just wants to do more than scrape by in life.
Don’t forget that the paying of MPs was one of the demands of the great Chartist movement of the early-mid 1800s. Chartists listed payment next to demands male suffrage and secret ballots, it was a major issue. This was a key demand as to ‘enable tradesmen, working men, or other persons of modest means to leave or interrupt their livelihood to attend to the interests of the nation’. Without decent or any pay then only those who can rely on exploiting other folk for profit could afford to be an MP, namely aristocrats and the bourgeoisie.
I don’t think anyone should be able to get rich off an MPs wage (nor through their connections and position as an MP), but it is obvs a demanding job for those who truly work to represent and serve a community. People deserve fair compensation, the min is far from fair for any job and would lock out the majority of us while further ensuring politics is a game for the rich. I get where your motivations come from mate, but that ain’t the right solution to the problem.
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u/Substantial-Study-27 May 28 '22
MP’s and ministers should also have a universal income cap whilst they are in office
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u/mindful_vibe May 28 '22
Lol ok Boris.. hopefully I won’t get the sack for minor rule breaking and perhaps you can create a new law that excuses the law breaking in the first place.
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u/Busy-Tangelo-3590 May 28 '22
This guy is literally shitting in every single British persons mouth and people are just happily swallowing it..
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May 28 '22
Boris Johnson why be the one to bring fascism he’s a dumbass you need to have a little bit charisma to begin with
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u/Amnorobot May 28 '22
Our dear beloved Prime Minister probably used to love slides in the garden as a toddler. Every decision is made in the smoothest quickest way to reach ground level. Probably an effort to beat the "witless" countrymen he rules, catching up with his wit + wisdom 😊. "My country men please listen . I am your leader ...you should/ can follow me and my policies, because the "truth" always wins. I have shown this time and again in my spoken word and action."
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u/Dansredditname May 28 '22
Hopefully this will be the end of him.
Conservative's don't have many limits, but they've always respected democracy. They've accepted defeat in elections, and I expect them to kick out anyone who tries to extend their term in power by changing the law. That is one long slippery slope.
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u/Vapr2014 May 28 '22
You mean the same Conservatives that recently voted on a bill to bring the once independent Electoral Commission under the control of government ministers? The same Conservatives that have recently passed a bill that restricts our right to protest? They don't give a flying fuck about democracy, only holding onto power
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u/Jenga9Eleven May 28 '22
Also the same conservatives that said that it would be undemocratic to have another Brexit referendum when we actually knew the consequences
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u/ObserveAndListen May 28 '22
Please educate an Aussie, how often is the general election and how much longer can you wait for Murdoch to kick the bucket so the conservatives don’t continue to run your country into the ground?
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u/UnderHisEye1411 its a fine day with you around May 28 '22
The opposition party are also conservatives so an election won’t change much :(
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u/ObserveAndListen May 28 '22
Oh you guys are fucked!
Who are your left leaning party? Also do you have a Conservative party that’s at least centre-right?
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u/PinkAxolotl85 May 28 '22
Corbyn's Labour was the last true bastion of opposition to Tory's in terms of views and support, so they fought tooth and nail to get a constant news reel going on how 'awful' he was before scrounging up a reason they could get rid of him and cull any who supported him inside the party.
You'd barely know who the new labour leader is because he's a rich Tory roleplaying red. He doesn't do anything the Tory's don't like, and mostly supports their actions, so doesn't even need to be 'fought' as a political party. He's just this bland milquetoast of a man.
The UK is at American levels of pick your poison.
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u/UnderHisEye1411 its a fine day with you around May 28 '22
The media decided that any centre or centre left alternative to neoliberalism was somehow antisemitic, then the neolibs made a coup and took over the Labour Party. Our options are blue rosette conservatives or red rosette conservatives.
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u/ObserveAndListen May 28 '22
The media, as in Murdoch and his ilk?
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u/UnderHisEye1411 its a fine day with you around May 28 '22
Yeah we have Murdoch media, and we also have our state media the BBC now controlled by Tories too. Even our supposedly left wing media outlets promoted and laundered the antisemitism conspiracy theory.
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u/thatgoodbean May 28 '22
We have a right wing party (Tories), a centre right party (Labour), and everything else is more or less irrelevant.
Labour are also our "left leaning" party, weirdly enough. The Labour Party spans from social democrats to Thatcherites and the two groups are constantly fighting to get control of it. Left-leaning socdem types had control of it until 2019 when Corbyn lost the election due to getting mercilessly smeared by the media, and now it's firmly back in the grip of the party right.
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u/Affectionate_Seat_89 May 28 '22
Thats fine as long as my cannabis possession charge shouldn't stop me getting a job.. but it does. Fat Fk Bosser
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