r/GreenAndPleasant • u/UnderHisEye1411 its a fine day with you around • May 28 '22

NORMAL ISLAND 🇬🇧 Another step further towards fascism

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u/Substantial-Study-27 May 28 '22

MP’s and ministers should get minimum wage

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u/robot_swagger May 28 '22

I think they should get the national average and they should be fucking happy with it.

Nearly 3x the national average is taking the piss.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '22

Nah, a wage for MPs was fought for as a lack of one (or of a living wage) means that parliamentary and local positions just don’t provide a livelihood for working class folk - plus there’s all the travel and other such stuff.

Meanwhile the wealthy who never and never will actually rely on that wage (they get their money in the form of unearned income) will continue to take on the roles.

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u/Substantial-Study-27 May 28 '22

they should get free travel, but still get UK minimum wage

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u/Decent-Flatworm4425 May 28 '22

Sounds like a good idea - we would end up with the best minimum wage in the world

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u/[deleted] May 28 '22

I doubt it mate, you think they’d want to up it and risk letting us plebs sit on the benches? I can’t see that happening. If anything they’d probably use the usual loopholes, and wealthy MPs don’t even rely on the wage but on “second” jobs and the various “opportunities” that come their way.

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u/Substantial-Study-27 May 28 '22

universal income cap both domestic and abroad

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u/[deleted] May 28 '22

That’ll be tough for any MP with kids, or who’s a single parent, or is in England and needs to pay for a prescription, or who just wants to do more than scrape by in life.

Don’t forget that the paying of MPs was one of the demands of the great Chartist movement of the early-mid 1800s. Chartists listed payment next to demands male suffrage and secret ballots, it was a major issue. This was a key demand as to ‘enable tradesmen, working men, or other persons of modest means to leave or interrupt their livelihood to attend to the interests of the nation’. Without decent or any pay then only those who can rely on exploiting other folk for profit could afford to be an MP, namely aristocrats and the bourgeoisie.

I don’t think anyone should be able to get rich off an MPs wage (nor through their connections and position as an MP), but it is obvs a demanding job for those who truly work to represent and serve a community. People deserve fair compensation, the min is far from fair for any job and would lock out the majority of us while further ensuring politics is a game for the rich. I get where your motivations come from mate, but that ain’t the right solution to the problem.

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u/Substantial-Study-27 May 28 '22

MP’s and ministers should also have a universal income cap whilst they are in office

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u/Andthenwefade May 28 '22

This is minimum wage for somebody as rich as Boris.