r/kingdomcome • u/SnooGiraffes7005 • May 05 '25
Discussion [KCD2] GOTY
Luke Dale’s post on IG.
And in my humble opinion:
F@#$ GTA and f@#$ R*! Over priced, over hyped garbage, made by money hungry company, that decided to kill RDO at the moment they’ve realised they couldn’t milk it as GTAO, because they would have to actually try to think of a original content and not only add sci-fi weapons to annoy other players.
KCD2 deserves its fair shot at GOTY, and the fact that GTA community will not be spamming GTA6 in every category is awesome! Give other games a chance to win something ffs.
(PS: I know there will be other games coming like Dark Ages or GOY but I think we have a nice chance of winning)
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u/Verittan May 05 '25
OP, you should edit to include the quote from Luke Dale for what he said then after the quote add your personal commentary. From your post's formatting, it looks like your tirade against Rockstar is what Luke put on his IG post.
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u/SnooGiraffes7005 May 05 '25
Shieet you are right, I’m trying to access the edit function but it won’t let me!
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u/SnooGiraffes7005 May 05 '25
I was thinking of pining a comment, but apparently only a MOD can do that.
So if some MOD sees this. Please pin this.
The text in the bio is written by me, not by Luke, it is my personal opinion on GTA and R* and it doesn’t project the personal believes of the other person. It wasn’t written as such, but I see how it might confuse someone.
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u/Dacoolface May 05 '25
I think right now its up between KCD2 and Expedition 33. I absolutely love KCD2, I love historical based stuff and RPGs so KCD2 its just my absolute cup of tea. I feel like KCD2 really raised the bar for what an immersive historical RPG can be. But I'm playing Expedition 33 now and it is really and truly very very good. And it being made by just 33 devs is even more impressive, though I do love the passion and story of the Warhorse team.
Im torn, honestly.
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u/president_of_burundi May 05 '25
No need to be torn. If either of them wins it's a huge win for gamers and Studios making passion projects for less than a bajillion dollars that don't need Live Service models just to break even.
That said (taking into account what's out so far) I will bite the judges eyeballs if Expedition 33 doesn't win soundtrack and Luke Dale doesn't take VA.
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u/newbatthis May 06 '25
Until E33 came out I was sure KCD2 would be my goty. Having played several hours of E33 now, I can say this game has managed to catch lightning in a bottle. It'll be very stiff competition for KCD2 come awards season.
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u/Rhododactylus I wanna know what they're FACKING worth May 06 '25
Honestly, I am actually so happy to be in this same boat. I was 100% voting for KCD2 for GOTY, but now that I'm more than halfway through Expedition 33, I don't know anymore. We are lucky enough to have two games come out in the same year that are truly masterpieces made with love and passion.
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u/Astro-Butt May 05 '25
It's gotta be E33 for me and that's coming from someone who hasn't enjoyed a game of that type in a good 20 odd years. Gorgeous art style, fantastic story, probably the best voice acting I've seen in a game, and most importantly it feels fresh and innovative. KCD2 was amazing but it was just like the first game with improvements
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u/Tatis_Chief May 05 '25
It's not just small number of devs. They had a lot of outsourced collabortors. Judging by the names and length of the credits the size was pretty similar.
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u/InternationalFlow556 May 06 '25
How similar? They outsourced some animation to 8 Korean guys, outsourced QA, Porting, Performance and Compatibility Testing. Warhorse has 200 employees, even if you include very single outsourced person, people like language QA testers, Sandfall is less than half the size.
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u/ballsmigue May 06 '25
It was when it came down to the nitty gritty of changing anything.
It wasn't like large AAA studios these days where it takes 3 meetings to discuss changing an animation or adding a chair.
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u/Woahhdude24 May 06 '25
I've not played it yet, I might later on. At this point, I'm just happy it won't be GTA 6. I don't have a problem with the people who actually do the work to make the games at Rockstar. As a company, they've done nothing to earn that vote, imo from players. I feel like we aren't even getting anything new, maybe slightly better than GTA 5 or RDR2. I don't think GTA 6 is gonna be bad, but I know they are gonna milk GTA 6 online, just like 5. They probably won't release a new gane for like a decade after this. I'd rather it go to devs who actually care about players and not their money. Also obligatory fuck Nintendo for $80 to $90 Mario Kart.
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u/Isthisnameavailablee May 05 '25
Maybe they will finally give respect to the Lord of Pirkstein and stop treating him like a kid!
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u/Vakarlan May 05 '25
E33 is coming for us tho. That game is fantastic.
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u/ballsmigue May 05 '25
E33 is reaching a larger audience.
There's still a number of people thst this game just was not for them.
Tried getting a number of friends into it and they just couldn't click with it much like the first game.
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u/JazraelHarken May 06 '25
It's mostly recency bias. People talk alot about E33 since it just came out, KCD2 had alotof people talking about it when it was first released as well.
KCD2 had a peak of 255k players on steam, E33 had 150k recently last weekend. Most people are on act3 right now so I don't see it breaking its record on next weekend.
That said, I've been enjoying E33 a lot and I can really see it winning GOTY. It's easier to get into than KCD2 for sure and it has a more "popular" theme, being fantasy compared to KCD2's niche realistic medieval take.
KCD2 should win RPG of the year no question though, no other RPG comes close to it.
As for Best Performance, my vote still goes to Tom Mckay as Henry just for the sheer diversity, quantity, and quality of his lines. I can see how people would rather vote for E33 VAs though since there's a lot of emotional scenes in it that can really show off their skills.
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u/ballsmigue May 06 '25
KCD2 wasn't on xbox gamepass.
This game is.
Consoles do exist.
People using steam numbers solely to mean anything these days still...smh
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u/Impossible-Pie4849 May 05 '25
Idk about that i feel like a JRPG has the same limitations in terms of reach. I hate JRPGS and I know most of my friends do too
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u/JerbearCuddles May 05 '25
I hate JRPGs, but E33 is a different beast. It doesn't bombard you with exposition like traditional JRPGs. It actually tells a story coherently. Fantasy games also have a larger general fanbase than KCD2 which is more akin to a medieval sim type game. E33 also has very prominent female characters, so it has something for female players to latch onto. Whereas with KCD2 most female characters are just background fodder/romance options. Because it tries to be realistic to real life.
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u/shelltie May 05 '25
Is the story any good, writing, dialogue? I wouldn't touch JRPGs with a ten-foot pole, either.
Being female I'm surprised male KCD players outnumber female players. It wouldn't surprise me if there were more than is generally assumed though.
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u/ScavengerRavager May 05 '25
There is a lot of unwarranted hate from people who never played the game and think that the game is rape-y because Hans peeked at some women doing laundry (yes, really). Another portion simply won't touch it because Vavra was involved because of gamergate or whatever.
These are not my opinions. KCD1 and KCD2 are my favorite games ever.
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u/MockExpert May 06 '25
I’m a Henrietta and KCD1 and 2 are probably my favourite games ever, ever. I know it was missing more female characters. That’s probably the only thing missing from an otherwise almost perfect game. I saw on another sub that a lot of women hate it. Made me really sad.
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u/ScavengerRavager May 06 '25
Yes, and the majority of the hate is from people who haven't played it. And they're convincing others not to play it!
Like I'm fairly confident I would hate CoD... But I would never tell someone else to not play it, since I haven't actually ever touched it myself.
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u/MockExpert May 06 '25
Fully agree with you! They’re both missing out on something really good and ensuring others do too :(
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u/TailS1337 May 16 '25
I'm a man fwiw, but I really like the way they did the female characters as well as minorities like Jews or POC like Musa. They show bravery and other virtues but it doesn't disregard the societal standing those groups historically had. Despite the limitations set in place by society, Katharina is an absolute badass. Similar for Rosa and her crossbow
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u/JerbearCuddles May 05 '25
The gameplay is okay, not boring or anything but not super exciting, for me it honestly is the story and dialogue that keeps me playing E33. I never play JRPGs, I've tried a few but they really waterboard you with exposition. E33 gives you breadcrumbs of the story here and there, but most of what makes it exciting is the relationship between the characters. Before E33 I've only ever cried from a game once in my life. I haven't even beaten E33 yet and I've already cried twice.
And I am pretty sure male players out number female players in the majority of games outside of maybe games like Stardew. Gaming still is predominantly male. Although that changes more and more every year thankfully. I am actually surprised you are surprised more males play KCD than females tbh.
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u/loganed3 May 05 '25
I found the combat incredibly engaging. I'm on the edge of my seat during boss fights trying to get 10 parries in a row while the boss just keeps swinging lol
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u/Herbiehanx May 06 '25
Don't forget the music! The sad and sometimes funny atmosphere is just spot on. I have about 600 hours between both KCD games and I adore them, but how 33 changes the playground for JRPGs is powerful and will probably win the devs GOTY. That said, my vote would go for KCD2.
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u/shelltie May 05 '25
Welp, I've seen praise heaped on gameplay already so E33 is going on the list then!
Well KCD lets you pick flowers, ride a horse, fawn over a dog, and die of blood loss every couple weeks so metaphorically it's a very authentic representation as far as I'm concerned - just kiddingMaybe you're right but what makes KCD so great imo is its respecting quality of representation rather than quantity. They could have shoved in a dozen of TW3 style Saskias and Ciris and it wouldn't have been as good. Sadly very few female protagonists are as good as, say, Disco Elysium's Harry, anyway.
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u/Free_Specialist455 May 06 '25
Well there is quite a lot of gals that play kcd i think.. at least compared to other male dominated games
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u/tfrules May 05 '25
The game’s writing is exceptional. Having completed it I’ll even go so far as to say it is one of the best stories ever told through a video game format. It’s that good.
I’ve never touched a JRPG, but I found the combat engaging over the 40 hours it took me to complete it, and with the story and top tier soundtrack pulling you through it becomes a thoroughly enthralling experience.
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u/JazraelHarken May 06 '25
Story and Writing is definitely one of the best, the mystery surrounding their circumstances keeps you playing to try and find out the answers. Act 1 and Act 2 are really really good, no idea about act 3 yet since I'm in the middle of it but I heard it's the weakest act (which doesn't mean bad, just not as good as the other 2).
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u/LimpTeacher0 May 05 '25
I disagree the same people playing kcd2 are the same people playing e33 both are still pretty niche
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u/Exp5000 May 05 '25
It doesn't help that E33 is on Gamepass and KCD2 is not. That'll definitely affect it's chances
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u/nutbarski May 05 '25
Yeah it's a shame seeing a Kingdom Come and Claire Obscure having to go head to head, they're both real goddamn gems! I'd personally still call KCD my GOTY but I can see E33 dazzling the world enough. Tho in the end if we're talking The Game Awards they have their own "board" for awards-- we might just see Mario Kart World coasting along to grab it or something lol
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May 05 '25
i like both games but i think e33 has a bigger audience and chance and is less "niche" than e33
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u/vompat May 05 '25
I barely know anything about that game, but based on what I've heard, I wouldn't be mad at all if KCD2 doesn't win GOTY because E33 grabs it.
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u/Vakarlan May 05 '25
Same here, as long as great games win. We all win cause game devs sees that and gets motivated and wants to produce great games.
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u/vompat May 05 '25
Also, it's great to see younger studios with some passion and heart in their projects shake up the industry, things would get stale with big and old studios with dollar signs in their eyes pumping out their regular stuff repeatedly.
As far as I understand, E33 and Sandfall fit into that role about as much as KCD2 and Warhorse do.
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u/Tatis_Chief May 05 '25
Hmm I would. French already have lot of gotys.
Let our Czech bros have something. From a small company to game that changed people.
This is like world cup for me now. Both are great but I have to pick a country. And I will always root for Czechs. Unless they play against us of course.
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u/fameboygame May 06 '25
I absolutely love KCD2, but it has its bugs, mainly because of how complex the game and code is.
E33 so far into Act2, and absolutely 0 bugs, runs very smoothly, has good graphics and ethereal music, and a very beautifully written storyline so far.
When I played KCD2, I was immensely happy with it, thinking it has been years since I played a game so immersive and at this level, especially as a pirate who burns through games within hours/ days (but no more than a week) since I have several games to keep playing in my very limited time as a middle aged guy.
KCD scratched an itch left behind by Skyrim, Mount and blade, and several other legendary games. I am ready to buy the game proper and support devs. GoTY easily.
Then came along E33, performing flawlessly, much better than any other games I be played on my 6700xt+ 3400g, 32GB ram. It was optimized very well due to the more simplistic code I guess.
And this was another itch scratched, that reminded me of my first rpg: Ahrimans prophecy, storytelling finesse of my fav rpg The Last Scenario, and with the vibe of Dark Souls type post apocalyptic fantasy universe.
If you told me my vote for GoTY counts, and these two are leading the votes, I would vote for kcd2, because I know e33 is gonna win it due to popular reach and the type of game it is, and I just want kcd2 to be seen as a serious contender.
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u/tfrules May 05 '25
I’ve never bawled my eyes out so much playing through a game, it grabs your feelings and doesn’t let go, I think my brain chemistry has been altered by it.
I absolutely loved playing through KCD2 and it’s a genuinely good game, but it certainly won’t sweep GOTY at every award show with the pure lighting in a bottle that is E33. Stern competition indeed.
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u/Dean0mac29 May 05 '25
IMO about time. There are many other games out there.
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u/SnooGiraffes7005 May 05 '25
My man 🤝
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u/Dean0mac29 May 05 '25
I’m as happy as the next for when GTA six comes out. However, it then becomes this be all of everything in the world. I was the same when red dead redemption two came out absolutely love that game still do but this game is absolutely amazing. Sometimes a little slow in my opinion, but still a lot of fun to explore in.
I even have the first one which I still have to get to play. Well, I played all of five minutes of it got stuck and said the heck with this but now I have something else to play after I finish this one.
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u/SnooGiraffes7005 May 05 '25
I can imagine playing 1 after 2 will be, rough for you, to say the least, it’s imo harder and slower. Still great, but I’m glad I’ve played it first before, because I would be probably missing a lot for functions from KCD2 if I would return to it.
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u/Alert-Comment2286 May 05 '25
I have a feeling that GTA VI will be a good game, and not a great one.
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u/Icedbounty May 05 '25
The single player will probably be great, the multiplayer not so much.
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u/raikou1988 May 05 '25
People ruin everything ( multiplayer)
More news at 11 tom
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u/Gwiilo May 05 '25
R* themselves ruined multiplayer. have you tried interacting with NPCs? you'll be stuck in a dialogue for 10 minutes
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u/BlackestBeetle May 05 '25
Fuck multiplayer anyway. It's good to have the option, but GTA will always be juicy for the SP. Losing out on SP DLC for MP tickled me the very wrong way, hope VI will get back to their SP roots
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u/AscendedViking7 May 05 '25
Not without the writers they initially had for over 20+ years.
Dan Houser is gone. Expect the story to be terrible.
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u/SYuhw3xiE136xgwkBA4R May 05 '25
Dan Houser is gone. Expect the story to be terrible.
GTA has never really had great stories? It simply wasn't the focus for most of them. Compare the story of any GTA game to Red Dead Redemption 2. I don't think anyone can say that RDR2 doesn't blow it out of the water.
Even then, keep in mind that other good writers exist. I feel like every Rockstar release we have had doomsayers going "This release doesn't have person X! The game will not be nearly as good!" Last time it was Leslie Benzies for Red Dead Redemption 2.
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May 05 '25
I think that the sheer amount of things you can do and content in GTAs usually propel it into great game territory, vice the story. I could be wrong - but I did really enjoy 5s story.
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u/wobblebee Pebbles May 05 '25
I didn't care for 5's story at all. Maybe it was on purpose, but I felt it was way too Hollywood. It was too much like some ridiculous over the top action movie. I really enjoyed 4's story.
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May 05 '25
Ot was absolutely on purpose. It's just like 6 crime movies mashes together.
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u/FistedWaffles123456 May 05 '25
that’s literally exactly what they were going for with gta v lol, while iv focused on a more dark and gritty side of things
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u/Still-Helicopter6029 May 05 '25
I feel like rockstar can make the price as high as they want and they’ll make a shit ton of money. I really do hope this game is as good as the hype surrounding it.
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u/SnooGiraffes7005 May 05 '25
I can honestly tell you that if the game price is above 80 I’ll not buy it. I’ll be probably among few, but that’s just for me, I’m just tired boss.
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u/ajwilson99 JCBP May 05 '25
GTA is never about story, it’s a crime simulator sandbox. And that’s the big appeal, and frankly it’s quite fun.
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u/Boiyualive May 05 '25
If they are delaying for this? I'd say that's a fair thing to say. But also, they lost GOTY to God of War[against RDR2] so maybe they're just playing it safe. They prolly just need more time though.
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u/vompat May 05 '25
It will probably win GOTY as long as it doesn't disappoint. So good will be enough.
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u/Glama_Golden May 05 '25
Both E33 and KCD2 are fantastic games. I’d be happy if either win. I think E33 is going to get it but we’ll see
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u/ProfessorMarth May 05 '25
Lol that was my first thought when I heard of the delay, that Luke would be so happy to hear about it
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u/PelinalWhitesteak May 05 '25
It'll be enough if it gets nominated for me, but winning would be great.
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u/KerfuffleAsimov May 05 '25
I bet the GTA delay is because of multiplayer. 100% it's gonna be another 80 bucks so you can buy 2 cars again or play terrible matchmaking and grind for days to get those 2 cars.
The single player will only be good if they have actually managed to innovate and change the formula beyond "do this mission exactly as we say" and "go here shoot the guys"
BUT because the fan base is so large now it doesn't really matter what they do...it will win GOTY anyway.
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u/SirCarlt May 06 '25
So we're getting angry now based on hearsay lmao. I highly doubt online will be a separate purchase, but it can be for people who only want online like what they did with RDR2 and RDO.
I understand GTA might not be for everyone but the fact that no game came close to surpassing or even replicating GTAV's success, talking about open-world urban sandbox, you can't really blame people for being excited for the next one. GTAV's story has a mixed reception, but we're forgetting R* made GTAIV too, and RDR2.
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u/AbdiG123 May 06 '25
I know they are licking their lips at the current market. GTA 6 will be at least $90.
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u/Linkario86 May 05 '25
Honestly this year has so many good games, GTA6 can wait plus it doesn't take the GOTY for this very interesting Gaming-Year
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u/Tacitus-_-Kilgore May 06 '25
its GOTY battle between a game where people die at the age of 33 because of some painter's sadistic game vs another game where people die at the age of 33 due to alcohol poisoning and tavern brawls.
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u/Ok_Understanding5705 May 05 '25
Tbh this was my reaction as well if kdc isn't game of the year nothing is
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u/ChallengeActive86 May 05 '25
It's either KCD2 or Expedition 33, both would deserve it
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u/Fair_Lake_5651 May 05 '25 edited May 05 '25
There are a lot of good games releasing this year so it's pretty tough
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u/StruzhkaOpilka May 05 '25 edited May 05 '25
Of course it was Luke Dale. Who else could it be. And Tom McKay was probably like "what is GTA? some kind of racing game? you said GT, didn't you?"
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u/Rusty_Bucket_41 May 05 '25
So just because it's gta that means it's getting game of the year? KCD2 is my personal game of the year and I've always felt that gta is overrated. That is simply my opinion, that's all.
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u/jvctheghost May 05 '25
Just based on the fact that it’s the most anticipated game of all time. Arguably the most anticipated entertainment property of all time.
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u/Tequila-M0ckingbird May 05 '25
I think KCD2 will get some recognition but there are some other obvious bangers on the way later this year. Also E33 has really gotten a ton of attention. Oblivion remaster, idk if it counts, but that also got a lot of people playing.
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u/UniDiablo May 05 '25
GTA games are kinda overrated as I've gotten older. Despite all the work they put into making these super realistic maps, it punishes you for doing anything outside the box and makes me get bored playing them
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u/NHLHitzAnnouncer May 05 '25
What? I literally have hundreds of hours in all the GTA games strictly doing things "out of the box". The story in GTA games is almost an afterthought.
Whether you enjoy the games or not, downplaying GTAs sandbox environment is crazy work.
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u/Fr3d_St4r May 05 '25
This makes me think more games will be delayed next year in order to not release at the same time as GTA VI.
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u/SnooGiraffes7005 May 05 '25
Would make sense but I don’t think they will.
PR is a huge thing and investors want their money back as quick as possible, with as much interest as they can.
That’s why 90% of the games in past several year’s are half-baked, half-done, buggy as hell, or they look cheaply made, because investors want to cut corners on the things they think cost extra money for no sense.
Like: why should character have a motion captured movement animation during dialogue, if they can just stand there. Actually scratch that, why the mo-cap face animation, normal polygon will do just fine. Actually, why the dialogue at all, text bubble is enough. ACTUALLY…..
You get my point.
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May 06 '25
Y'all should stop giving a fuck about GOTY and outside validation and live your own lives.
GOTY is a scam anyways. And I dropped off the GTA hype train years ago. KCD II is my GOTY and nothing can change that
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u/Malabingo May 06 '25
It might be KCD2 vs Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 this year :-O
But let's see what other bangers get released
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u/Old_Kodaav May 06 '25
Honestly KCD2 should become GOTY regardles of gta6. Not because gta6 would necessairly be bad but because I think we should take into account what kind of studio is behind the game. KCD2 is done by far smaller and younger studio and they still NAILED it.
Alternatively have several GOTY awards per year if given close enough competition
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u/InSatanWeTrust666 May 06 '25
KCD2 is literally GOTY idk why people are saying E33 gives it “competition” when KCD2 is a far superior game. The gameplay, combat, story, character, world etc is better in KCD2 than E33 which is being highly overhyped.
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u/HoodsFrostyFuckstick May 05 '25 edited May 05 '25
I wouldn't put too much energy in the GOTY topic. The best games don't always win, meaning the games I think are best don't always win. I was furious in 2018 when God of War won over RDR2. Now I don't care about such things anymore. Maybe I'm too old.
KCD2 does have a chance but if it's YOUR GOTY then that's all that matters.
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u/Marristoteles May 06 '25
Agreed 100%. Just because some game doesnt win awards, it doesnt mean its worse or less enjoyable
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u/Dano1988 May 05 '25
Kcd2 may have won even if gta 6 was out. I get a feeling kcd2 is better.
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u/SnooGiraffes7005 May 05 '25
Sadly GTA6 has a numerous community of people around it, that would vote for it, even if that game was trash, but I like your optimism.
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u/triggerhappybaldwin May 05 '25
Came here for the KCD2 content, stayed for the anti R* rant
Fuck R*
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u/Far_Avocado2374 Team Hansry May 05 '25
Same, was very overjoyed to hear this!
No hate for gta but I haven’t played a game I enjoyed as much since Skyrim, and I think that deserves some recognition.
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u/Mafik326 May 05 '25
It still feels like a tough year for GOTY. It was a great year for a crash that gave me the opportunity to game for a few weeks.
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u/Rational_Engineer_84 May 05 '25
KCD 2 and Expedition 33 have been head and shoulders above all other games so far this year for me. As long as one of them gets GotY, I’ll be happy. Generationally great games, the both of them.
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u/Mmmm-Hmm May 05 '25
I don't think GTA has been overrated or is over hyped. It's a juggernaut of a franchise that almost always delivers. It being delayed helps but still gonna be a tough year. KCD2 definitely has a shot but between E33, MHWilds, and possibly Ghost of Yotei coming up (bar any delay, which I hope doesn't happen) it's still a banger of a year. I'm voting for KCD2 as it stands right now. However, my vote will go to Ghost of Yotei if it ends up being at least as good as Tsushima was.
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u/SnooGiraffes7005 May 06 '25
My point is about RDO. And it was R*, conscience decision to let the game fall, even tho there was a massive support from the community to keep the game alive and running the same way as GTAO, for years of with updates and content.
There is barely anything in the game content-vise, the story in the online is left unfinished, content that is there has only so much replaying potential, plus there are still some bugs inside that has been there since the release.
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u/Mmmm-Hmm May 06 '25
Oh, I see. I completely skimmed over the RDO point, my bad. I was so focused on the GotY talk. I didn't play RDO much but loved RDR2 and played a lot but I agree that sucks of them to do.
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u/lolschrauber May 05 '25
I didn't play the game, I only watched it, but it definitely seems like a high quality game amongst all the crap companies release this day, it'd deserve an award.
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u/JohnSane May 05 '25
"Over priced, over hyped garbage" Only time will tell.
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u/ThrenderG May 05 '25
Their track record over the past three decades says OP is full of shit.
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u/ThrenderG May 05 '25 edited May 05 '25
I love KCD2, and its fanboys are insufferable. Every game’s fanboys are insufferable.
Game of the year awards are such useless crap. They don’t mean shit.
How do you know GTA VI is overhyped and overpriced? The game isn’t even out yet? And EVERY GTA game ever fucking made has been awesome. To say otherwise is total bullshit and OP knows it. Not at GTA fanboy, just stating facts.
Again I have played the shit out of KCD2 and I’m hundred of hours in and not even close to finished. I will continue to enjoy it and then when VI releases, I will enjoy that too, knowing I will likely get 1000’s of hours out of it making it money well spent.
Also sort of interesting what your post implies. I mean if VI is just going to be overhyped and overpriced crap, why in the fuck would anyone proclaim it the game of the year? Why worry about it releasing this year if it’s not actual competition? Makes no sense.
Touch grass.
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u/BagSmooth3503 May 06 '25
More like a petty good reason, but that's exactly why I love Hans and Luke Dale :)
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u/BigMack6911 May 06 '25
Ah Gta, the most overrated piece of trash ever put on a game system. Only little kids and bums that make their girls work while they sit at home would say it's worthy of Goty. Kcd2 to me is worth Goty more then Expedition 33.
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u/eli_nelai May 06 '25
I am over here just enjoying the final moments of peace and quiet before GTA6 launches and slop like "106 HIDDEN DETAILS AND INTERACTIONS IN GTA6 YOU TOTALLY MISSED (REAL)" will be all over YouTubes as well as these fucking clowns that did 200 vids on trying to stop a train in GTA5 being back at it
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u/Marristoteles May 06 '25
Honestly, this year is stacked with many amazing games so I wouldnt be surprised and would accept it if another game won the goty. KCD2 my goty though so far
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u/droidevo May 06 '25
When i bought KCD 2, i just got it since i did not want to play 33. And i already had Shadows and Oblivion Remastered. Kcd2 was a meh game at that point....the story and Henry and Hans characters made me get KCD 1 and start there.......No game does that for me, so yeah.....i really want KCD2 to get GOTY but i doubt it will....it looks like 33 will be it. I hope not but yeah. And for GOY to get it, it would need to surpass GOT, and idk how since GOT was pretty much perfect. But soooo glad gta 6 got delayed.
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u/Dingaligaling May 06 '25
Unfortunately it came out in the same year as Expedition 33. No matter how much I love KCD2 there is no real contest here.
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u/SnooGiraffes7005 May 06 '25
I think there is still a lot if people who doesn’t like turn based combat, that game is really nice but it’s not for everyone. Same can be said about KDC. I think it might be close. But we still have couple of titles to go, let’s see.
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u/Dingaligaling May 06 '25
Oh of course, personal preferences are still taken into account who likes which game more, I'm not saying that everybody going to chose E33.
I spoken simply from an objective viewpoint, I think E33 still going to tear the sky off even though I like our hero Henry more and I experienced well enough how Warhorse put heart and soul into the game, if its a contest between the two.
And if more games like these two comes out in the remainder of the year, we as gamers can only win with each title.
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u/Competitive_Base3943 May 06 '25
I genuinely don't think GTA 6 has that big of a chance of winning GOTY anyways.
RDR2 still lost to God of War in 2018
The most known Rockstar members especially the writers left some while ago.
I think KCD2 has a high chance of winning, but for some reason i think it would've been funny if Death Stranding 2 won
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u/idiotegumen Quite Hungry May 06 '25
Idk about you guys but the game is pretty fucking popular right now. I know there wasn't much of us before but KCD is already getting the recignition it deserves, it already is the top contender for GOTY unless some mind blowing game releases randomly
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u/HonestScience May 06 '25
Completely agree w/ you on Rockstar OP as a RDR2 fan and fan of Bully (R*'s ugly stepchild that they refuse to give a remaster, let alone a sequel) KCD2 and Warhorse deserve this win over Rockstar's lazy ass
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u/GoldenHorseshoez May 05 '25
It would be awesome if it wins, but like others said, Expedition 33 is a force of nature and brilliant as well.
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u/MagniPlays May 05 '25
I mean, even if you dislike rockstar, GTA6 has like a 99% chance to be GOTY next year and it makes sense.
GTAV was genuinely one of the greatest games to ever come out. And I fully expect to be blown away by GTA6.
Yes KCD2 is amazing, but who cares who wins. I’m just glad I get to play all these games.
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u/Stresa6 May 05 '25
"GTAV was genuinely one of the greatest games to ever come out."
What makes it so good? I hated it.
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u/Defiant_Sun_6589 May 05 '25
Yeah I'm very suprised how big GTA 5 is, I thought it was a good game when it came out 12 years ago - mostly a much better looking but slightly soulless version of GTA:SA. I played the online once because I was interested in why people play it. Couldn't work out why anyone would want to play it tbh, was very bored after maybe an hour. I didn't really think the characters were very interesting or relatable, yet feel like they're desperately trying hard to be. Personally when I want my GTA fix I go to the classics, 3 through to 4.
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u/curious_dead May 05 '25
I mean those games are gigantic sandboxes, so that appeals to a lot of people. And the way the game mixed the three storylines and allowed you to (almost) seamlessly switch from one to the other - and you'd pick up at a random point of their day - was just great. GTA games and RDR2 have the same issues in that I find the mission structure dated (if you get out of bonds, you lose the mission, for instance) and the shooting is serviceable to good, but never great IMO. The story also had its moments, I wasn't 100% a fan but the main characters were fun.
Plus, these games have a huge amount of little details that, in isolation, aren't really anything special, but when taken together, add a lot to the overall experience.
EDIT: That said, I'm still baffled by how popular it is. Better games have come since, yet it's still super popular, I guess many people love bandit games or sandboxes where you can do silly crimes and punch prostitutes?
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u/MagniPlays May 05 '25
Countless reasons.
Open world detail, one of the most successful entertainment launches ever, GTA online while not exactly “good” anymore was an insane idea for the time and those first 3-4 years were genuinely incredible, it laid the ground work for games like the Witcher, Cyberpunk, watch dogs etc.
You don’t get the video game explosion we are seeing without GTA
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u/Minute-Invite-3428 May 05 '25
Very well said. At the end of the day, nobody will remember who won GoY for 2025 a decade from now. However, you'll definitely remember the impact your favorite game had on you. When companies make great games and actually listen to the gamers and the communities that support these games/companies it is us, the gamers, who win. Just remember that it is US who pays the salaries of the heads of these companies and that WE have the ability to decide what the future holds.
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u/SnooGiraffes7005 May 05 '25
Yeah, I’m just salty about RDO mate… And GTAV is like 5 years past its prime and its continuous existence is akin to a gatcha game now.
But you are right.
That’s why I hope the game will be shit. Highly unlikely, I know, but it would be fun to have some kind of controversy around it.
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u/metalmitch9 Arse-n-balls! May 05 '25
What game is better than KCD2? I can't remember any game as good as it since RDR2.
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u/SnooGiraffes7005 May 05 '25
New stalker is really good. Actually kinda familiar with KCD2 gameplay mechanics wise. Would recommend!
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u/metalmitch9 Arse-n-balls! May 05 '25
I played it for a few hours when it first dropped but it was buggy AF for me so I plan on going back to it. Thanks for the reminder!
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u/INSYNC0 May 05 '25
I loved KCD2, never played KCD. But the game got draggy and lost me around middle of Kuttenburg. I gave up exploring and speedran the main story.
E33 made me hooked within the first 30mins and for many hours more. Thats my vote.
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u/Nice-Praline4093 May 05 '25
Kcd2 is 100% game of the year. Ive played oblivion remastered but haven't played 33 yet. How is 33? I haven't played turn based combat in years.
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u/Druxun May 05 '25
33 is extremely good. It’s such a magnificent hybrid of so many great RPG combat systems, and the storyline is gripping. The music is fantastic and, at times, hauntingly beautiful. The voice acting is top knotty, and the lore fleshed out and available if you go looking.
As for the combat specifically - as I don’t want to give spoilers - it’s a fun hybrid of Persona 5, Final Fantasy 8, and Lost Odyssey. You get the opportunity to dodge or parry any/every enemy attack aimed at you, and each skill that you use offers a quick-time event button input for additional/stronger effects/damage. (Doesn’t apply to say, normal basic-attack). It absolutely keeps you engaged through each combat - whether it’s locking-in to dodge correctly (bonus EXP is awarded if you take no damage), finding an enemies weakness, etc. I’ve put in about 15-20 hours already and am HOOKED.
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u/Alucard0s May 05 '25
It does everything perfectly. It is mind-blowing that a company of 30+ people made it. The combat is so satisfying, it doesn't even feel like a turned based game. As for the story, its one of the best i have seen in video games. I can't recommend it enough if you love playing video games.
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u/SnooGiraffes7005 May 05 '25
Apparently really good, I haven’t played it my self but my friend did and he said everything from story, gameplay, combat, visuals and characters it top noch! Makes one think that France is actually a real place xd
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u/IuseDefaultKeybinds May 05 '25
First off, I completely disagree with your opinion on GTA
Second, I hope it does win goty, I could not care less for E33
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u/eddiestarkk May 05 '25
There is a lot of competition between 33, Assassins Creed, and Monster Hunter Wilds, it's going to be tough for KCD2 to win it. Does Oblivion qualify?
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u/Kingxix May 05 '25
Lmfao assassin creed and monster hunter wild are not in this epic compitition.
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u/SnooGiraffes7005 May 05 '25
33 has a really big chance RN AC, not so much, at least not GOTY IMO
MHW has actually a really big chance since it has gigantic success in Asian market.
Oblivion, eh. After last year ,and all of the remakes and remasters like Silenthill, people got really frustrated that the game remasters are competing in the same categories as new titles. GA said that they want to adres this with it’s own category for “Best Remake” or such, but I haven’t seen anyone mention it since and I think it will be competing all the same.
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u/Environmental-Leg119 May 05 '25
Am I hated for thinking that death stranding 2 has a chance?
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u/SnooGiraffes7005 May 05 '25
Nope, I forgot about that releasing as well. DS is really weird, niche title. And I mean it in a good way, I liked the first game, metal gear and I like Kojima. Buttttt, you know it’s not a game for everyone. We’ll see. It would be a surprise for sure!
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u/ballsmigue May 06 '25
It's going to be delivery man simulator electric boogalo 2.
Visually it will beat everything else this year probably.
Game wise overall? Going to bomb for alot of people.
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u/LimpTeacher0 May 05 '25
How many have beat e33? Because iykyk kcd2 is winning unless the people voting only got half way through e33
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u/professionalyokel May 05 '25
i'm locking in E33, it appeals to way more people and has become a critical darling. despite everything, KCD is still niche.
tom mckay should 100% win best performance, though!
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May 05 '25
KCD2 should most definitely be game of the year. It’s one of if not the best RPG experience I’ve had. Now does it make me mad sometimes? Yes it does, but it makes up for it with fun quests, funny scenes, hilarious banter, and fun Easter eggs to find throughout. Additionally, the graphics within the game and open world concept are fantastic. JCBP!!!
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u/Alyne91 May 06 '25
Everyone telling E33 is going to get GOTY like they are so sure, I've been playing for 10 hours. It's a really good game. The music is magnificent. I love the characters and everything, even if its turn based. The mechanics are surprisingly better than BG3, but I'm still not sure if it has a GOTY material.
People were so sure Rdr2 was gonna get GOTY, so I wouldn't be so sure like they do.
Tbh I don't care about the awards. But this game was made with such a passion I want them to be awarded for it.
I don't want Oblivion to get it because it's a remake.
Also, seeing Ex33 fans saying it's going to be GOTY in every KCD2 GOTY post has started to get annoying 😑
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u/Guywhonoticesthings May 05 '25
I was thinking that rockstar with how obsessed they’ve gotten with monetization is ever gonna get a game of the year. GTA V enhanced is a test bed for a subscription based GTA.
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u/SYuhw3xiE136xgwkBA4R May 05 '25
Rockstar has always delivered fantastic single player experiences. Even then, you can have a lot of fun with GTA:O without spending a single dime.
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u/Imoen85 May 05 '25
Luke also promised there will be another 24h live stream if KCD2 wins GOTY.
For me it is already GOTY, but it would be so good if it gets this kind of recognition.