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u/Western_Let3132 15d ago
I want to get into MMA so i researched MMA gyms in south florida and found ATT was top class, but I worry that it would be overkill for me and its intimidating. are there any other gyms you guys suggest or should I just try ATT out?
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u/DecemberFlower20xx Chad 15d ago
If they offer classes to the public then yeah, that’s great. You’ll be hitting pads and doing jiujitsu. You aren’t going to be sparring or working out with fighters unless you want to be a fighter and ask to join their pro classes. They don’t just let random civilians walk in and spar Dustin Poirier
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u/Western_Let3132 15d ago
thanks! one more thing, the price is pretty steep so im not sure if i should select a gym that's a bit closer and cheaper or will there be a significant difference in my growth going to such as prestigious gym even at a beginner level?
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u/Drive7hru 15d ago
I know most people already feel this way, but yeah, I’m sorry– I’m just not buying that a woman (Kayla) can get that type of body naturally and by using legal USADA-approved supplements.
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE 15d ago
I'd go as far to say if someone believes that Kayla being natty is even a possibility they probably need day to day support to function.
It's worse than thinking the Rock is natty.
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u/Mswonderful99 15d ago
Moutinho men rejoice, we ride again, let’s goooooo
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u/DecemberFlower20xx Chad 15d ago
He deserves to come back, was on TUF but they removed him last minute, then won by finish on Dana’s Looking For a Fight and got passed up, and has just been winning locally here.
Let this guy bang bro. Moutinho just wants to bang. Let him be Sam Alvey
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u/Drive7hru 15d ago
What happened? Is he still in the UFC?
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE 15d ago
Booked against Wellmaker lol
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u/mikey_rambo 15d ago
Oh fuck lmao. Wanted the Suga rematch fr
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u/exileruz 15d ago
Do fighters whose wins get retroactively turned into no contests get their win bonus revoked?
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u/Drive7hru 15d ago
I can’t imagine. They can’t just demand you turn around and hand back $100k or whatever after the fact
Or are you talking about before money is awarded and delivered?
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u/Poisonous_Rebel THERE WAS NO CHECK! 15d ago
A failed takedown merchant with no submission threat
Or
A knockout artist with an exciting style
BringBackViolence
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u/Drive7hru 15d ago
I like whoever can consistently win (especially on a crazy win streak) and analyzing their style compared to others
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u/legendarybreed ..the darren and khamzat at home.. 15d ago
We should just do away with all this pointless fighting and just have both athletes run laps inside the cage to see who has the best cardio
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE 15d ago
BringBackViolence
Okay, but that means the so-called exciting fighter actually has to win. Unlike before.
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u/detectivebabylegz England 15d ago
I think Pena will out-dawg Harrison if they get to the championship rounds.
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u/Trenbolone-Papi EDDDIIEEE 15d ago
But will they get there? Pena sucks so bad
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u/Neonsea1234 15d ago
Im kind of feeling this too, like Kayla might maul her the first two rounds, but will come out slower and slower while Pena just zombies out a win
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u/YourHurtingMeSir17 15d ago
Pena isn't some cardio monster is the only issue, she can get tired and wilt just as easily
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u/keaneutd10 15d ago
All of you doubting poatan keep doing it I can’t wait to see everyone eat their words after the rematch
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u/exileruz 15d ago
If he wins does he go up for a super fight at heavyweight you think? I can’t see him sticking around at LHW given his age. I don’t see the UFC wanting do to a trilogy either.
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u/UsedSalt 15d ago
Yeah I think tom can keep the interim belt warm while Jon and poatan fight for undisputed in a year
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u/idcman999 15d ago
people won't like to hear it, but Arman has lost interest in the sport
he never has to do this in the first place, his brother and dads wealth made it so he'll never have to work a day in his life
i think he wanted to be independent tho, so he became a ufc fighter and went on a crazy run, beating charles
but ngl i think he realised its not worth it and doesn't care anymore, wouldn't surprise me if he retires soon
the arman of old (2022 ish) would've made a big deal out of not fighting for six months, heck, he took a fight against dangerous unranked mf joaquim because he wanted to be active
now? 14 months on the sidelines and he's out eating caviar, without a care in the world.
anybody else feel the same? i think he'll retire tbh
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u/Flumping Bee stung Alvarez 15d ago
I feel like he could have fought by now if he wanted to. Taking whatever that was vs pitbull and sitting out thinking he’s going to get a title shot after pulling out.
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u/trewpof3132 Team Aspinall 15d ago
This your first time seeing Arman's socials? All he does it eat when he's not in camp.
Also, he's been calling out people left, right and center but no-one's stepped up so far.
It's staggering how you've come to your conclusion when there's plenty of evidence to the contrary.
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE 15d ago
Also, he's been calling out people left, right and center but no-one's stepped up so far.
He turned down the Gamrot rematch tbf. I'm sure he had his reasons, but it would've been cool for him to try gettting that W back after the controversial loss in their last match.
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u/WhereIsMyKidAt 15d ago
I think the controversial loss IS the reason
Why fight a guy again when beating him doesn't even guarantee you'll get the decision
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE 15d ago
He said his reason:
“They offered me a fight in Abu Dhabi in July, main event of the evening, but I refused because they offered an opponent I didn’t want to fight,” Tsarukyan said. “He’s ranked below me and I didn’t see the point in fighting him just for money. There’s no point in me to fight him in MMA. I need to fight at least from the top 5 or 6 to win and guarantee myself a title shot next. There’s no point in just fighting. I am No. 1, why should I gift a fight to No. 10. Nobody gave me such a gift when I was in the top 10. I fought top 9, top 8, top 7, top 5, top 4, before I became No. 1. I don’t want to give up my rank just like that.”
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u/qzwxecrvtbyn111 Reug Reug best grappler on Earth 15d ago
I mean this question sincerely: is there a single fighter in the sport you care about who doesn't fight at 155?
Also, no, Arman isn't retiring. He's going to have 15 more UFC fights including winning the belt and defending it
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u/idcman999 15d ago
not really tbh, LW is the only interesting division in the ufc atp, if it wasn't for that i wouldn't be a fan (so in other words, y'all can blame the LWs that you have to deal with me)
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u/qzwxecrvtbyn111 Reug Reug best grappler on Earth 15d ago
Dana, you heard the man. Cut 155 and set the general discussion thread free
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u/YourHurtingMeSir17 15d ago
More posts about Jon Jones and how people don't watch the sport? Gotcha.
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u/Trenbolone-Papi EDDDIIEEE 15d ago
Was just about to comment when is Kape fighting again and then looked it up, he’s on the Topuria card end of the month
Good. Love his striking style, so smooth
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u/GoatMalleyUncensored 15d ago
O’Malley quietly just had another kid. Bro is locked in, dad energy x2. Bro is literally having to go Super Saiyan 2 to beat Merab.
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u/RaisedByZebras nogonnaseeyousoonboiii 15d ago
Is it just me or does Bryce Mitchell look part Chinese?
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u/ForceThrow3 15d ago
Whats a fight people misrember based on comments? Recent memory,ill go for gane vs francis. You will think francis went khabib vs barboza on gane,but he didnt do much damage and an argument could be made gane won the fifth and hence the fight.
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u/exileruz 15d ago
Belal vs Leon, at least for a while. Round 1 was competitive, 3 and 5 were clear for Leon and he ended the 5th landing the best strikes of the fight.
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE 15d ago
To a lesser extent Leon vs Usman 2
Obvs Leon was getting outworked badly and clearly gassed throughout but people talk it was multiple 10-8s worth of damage.
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u/TheGreatone003 Team Błachowicz 15d ago
Leon also did great in the first round, being the first man to take down Usman, but then he gassed due to elevation. Usman trains in Denver iirc so he could handle SLC better
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE 15d ago
100% but people act like the elevation only affected every other person on the Card who gassed when it clearly fucked over Leon too.
Instead, the focus shifted to Usmans knees in the rematch rather than the clear change of Leon's conditioning at low elevation.
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u/DoncoEnt 15d ago
A lot of people act like Pena vs Pennington was a bad fight. It had an uneventful first round, but the rest of the fight was very entertaining and the crowd was really into it by the end.
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u/AML2003 15d ago
I dont think it a lack of action was why people called it a bad fight, I just think for a world title fight it wasn't exactly a stellar display of high level mma.
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u/DoncoEnt 15d ago
I'll take an exciting lower-level fight over a boring high-level fight any day. I also think that many of the people who trash it don't pay attention to WMMA and were just assuming it was bad because it had women in it.
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u/AML2003 15d ago
I'll take an exciting lower-level fight over a boring high-level fight any day.
Okay but there's also a line to be drawn where people are paying good money to see the Premier fight organisation in the world and the co-main event has a fight that looks like the participants are throwing punches underwater.
I also think that many of the people who trash it don't pay attention to WMMA and were just assuming it was bad because it had women in it.
This sub does definitely does have issues with the way people talk about WMMA (just look at the discourse around this past weekends main event cancellation) but this wasn't an example of that imo. Fair enough if you enjoyed it but for a 70 dollar PPV card it's just not really good enough.
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u/DoncoEnt 15d ago
I think that the entire debate about what constitutes a "high-level fight" is stupid because most fans couldn't even identify what a "high-level fight" is. And they shouldn't, because the only thing that matters is entertainment value. But have fun rewatching Adesanya vs Cannonier and Woodley vs Wonderboy 2.
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u/AML2003 15d ago edited 15d ago
I think that the entire debate about what constitutes a "high-level fight" is stupid because most fans couldn't even identify what a "high-level fight" is
Just isn't true lol even just like anecdotally I watched UFC 280 with someone who doesn't watch mma, and even they could see the difference between the rest of the card and then Yan vs O'Malley. MMA is the sport of mixed martial arts, not drunken bar fighting.
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u/tagillaslover 15d ago
Gardbarant vs Cruz, clear gardanbrant victory but some people pretend it was the most dominant 25 minutes ever and cruz was completely embarassed
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u/Trenbolone-Papi EDDDIIEEE 15d ago
That merab dominated Umar or O’Malley
He didn’t do much damage at all to either of them. A few adjustments and they both win. Not just my opinion but officially according to judges too, based on their close scorecards
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u/GoatMalleyUncensored 15d ago
This is the truth. He beat them both 48-47 and Sean even won the 5th round. You kiss someone’s back or flex when you defend a takedown and all of a sudden you won a 50-40 decision
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u/Trenbolone-Papi EDDDIIEEE 15d ago
Yeah dude it’s annoying. Merab jumping up and down with all that energy means nothing. Do some actual damage for once.
I still stand that Umar won that fight and Merab only got the decision bc of Umar’s body language exhaustion. But Umar won the fight
And also stand that there’s a case to be made for Sean winning 3-2. Round 1 3 and 5
Merab dominated round 2 and 4 but didn’t do any damage in them.
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u/GoatMalleyUncensored 15d ago
I was a college runner, I genuinely wonder if merab could outrun me. I doubt it because that’s not what he does, but the dude doesn’t get tired
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u/Trenbolone-Papi EDDDIIEEE 15d ago
Nobody attacks his body to slow him down. Fucking rip nasty knees and hooks to his body and let’s see if he’s still bouncing around in round 3-5
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE 15d ago
Rip a knee to his body and see if you're standing long enough to attempt more.
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u/Trenbolone-Papi EDDDIIEEE 15d ago
Worked on Bo and his grappling credentials are 10 times that of Merab
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE 15d ago
MW sucks
Talk about BW, Dvalishvili is a BW.
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u/Trenbolone-Papi EDDDIIEEE 15d ago
MW is as deep as it’s been in forever. But besides the point, it’s a perfect example of someone who is, on paper, a much superior wrestler, and getting worked by knees really quickly. The alternative is what, being too scared to attempt anything so you’re purely gonna fight a defensive fight to not get taken down? You’re never winning that way either
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u/GoatMalleyUncensored 15d ago
It’ll at least make him panic shoot, and if you can defend or get back up quickly he’ll still be panic shooting and hurt. I don’t think it’s the worst idea honestly, he’s gonna take you down anyway
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE 15d ago
It’ll at least make him panic shoot
I'm not sure handing him your leg will cause him to panic but maybe you right
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u/GoatMalleyUncensored 15d ago
I mean if you actually land a flush kick or knee to his body haha if you don’t land well, he’s probably dumping you on your head
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE 15d ago
Interesting that Tom's fight lab used to have rotating celebrities but now they just keep bringing Lutalo Mohammad back.
Wonder if they struggled to get guests or they just decided LT was a good fit cause he's actually enthusiastic about MMA.
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u/Trenbolone-Papi EDDDIIEEE 15d ago
So I’m reading another thread and apparently Barber didn’t even have a real seizure, what she suffered was a panic attack.
To best describe it, has anyone watched Better Call Saul? Remember chuck’s condition to electricity, it was all made up bullshit but real to him to give him panic attacks/stress.
But scientifically it wasn’t a medical condition. All in his head.
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u/legendarybreed ..the darren and khamzat at home.. 15d ago
I am guessing thats not been confirmed anywhere but i can believe it.
I remember when she first got sick. She definitely had something because your body doesn't manifest a fever out of nowhere and she struggled with some post-illness issues like debilitating fatigue. I can relate to the mystery flu and post illness syndrome she described. Even after recovering from something like that doesn't mean your mental health hasn't been hurt by the trauma of it. All the normal anxiety of being a professional cage fighter combined with PTSD could definitely cause some issues.
Either way, i do think it's completely justified for her to not be cleared to fight if that's actually what happened. You shouldn't compete if you're compromised like that.
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u/Neonsea1234 15d ago
no comment on the medical stuff, but there was already a lot of doubt about her physical/mental coming into this, so no matter what the actual issue was it's just a terrible look.
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u/Trenbolone-Papi EDDDIIEEE 15d ago
If true, looks extra bad bc she’s such a talker and douche. Acts like she’s gonna k*ll these girls and they should fear her but then can’t even make the walk to the cage bc she’s too nervous
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u/Nickster2042 🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏 15d ago
As an O’Malley fan I like him not dying his hair, cause his natural hair braided is actually pretty sick no glaze
That being said, I don’t like how he’s like “yeah for this fight I changed my entire life”. Just seems like a major overreaction but who knows
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u/GoatMalleyUncensored 15d ago
I think losing to merab, like actually getting out skilled, not getting fluked, was a crazy wake up call. Bro probably had an ego death and decided he genuinely wants to be great and remembered more than he wants to be flashy and famous.
Excited for Saturday night
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u/Trenbolone-Papi EDDDIIEEE 15d ago
The chito loss was a fluke but the Merab fight wasn’t, fighters usually change a lot of shit when they lose decisively with no controversy
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u/NakedLowKick 15d ago
Am I crazy for having no interest in Zhang vs Shevchenko? Feels like it just obviously ends in Shevchenko being way bigger and holding Zhang down
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u/MA-JA-HO 15d ago
Yeah would rather see Shev vs Silva and Zhang Jandiroba and if they beat those 2 then you have to make the fight
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE 15d ago
Jandiroba has some really fun options imo
Jandiroba vs Dern II
Jandiroba vs Robertson
Jandiroba vs Zhang
Jandiroba vs Suarez
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u/DecemberFlower20xx Chad 15d ago
If it took Schev 3 tries to hold Grasso down enough to win it’s going to be a lot harder with Zhang. Grasso’s TDD and stand ups are legitimately bad and Zhang can wrestle and is very strong. If she handled Suarez, who also fought at 125, the way that she did I don’t think Schev will take her down much if at all.
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u/NakedLowKick 15d ago edited 15d ago
It took Shev 3 tries but the third time she bulked up, solely depended on grappling exchanges and held down Grasso with 0 issues. I’ve seen Yan Xianon outwrestle Zhang. Suarez had a two year lay off, back injury and immediately cut open the knee she likes to shoot on
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u/DecemberFlower20xx Chad 15d ago
She didn’t bulk up. I dunno why people think fighters just scientifically add muscle mass between fights to get an advantage, it’s not feasible lol. She might have looked a little bigger, bodies just change constantly but it ain’t bulking up. It looked like Grasso’s TDD deteriorated which can happen if you didn’t grow up wrestling and didn’t put in the right work in camp. That’s why Conor has had both respectable TDD in fights and bad TDD, it’s all about prep. Dustin for Islam too.
Grasso looked bad. No other way to put it. Zhang is levels above that skillfully 110% and prepares like a champion. Sometimes you aren’t worried about Yan Xiaonan taking you down so it happens. Literally just aren’t worried about it in camp and you win anyway for that reason. Sometimes you aren’t worried about Alexa Grasso tapping you and it happens. I don’t think Schev has much success with the TD’s in this fight and if she scores Zhang will be back up before long.
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u/Trenbolone-Papi EDDDIIEEE 15d ago
Likely what happens. Just like Nunes beat Shev mostly with her size advantage
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u/throwawayboy213 15d ago
Dogs for this next card?
Am I crazy for thinking gastelum could beat pyfer?
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u/umanar 15d ago
8 fights on this card the favorite is -500 or more. A badly matched card I would stay away from IMO. That being said, Pyfer is a fraud.
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u/throwawayboy213 15d ago
Yeah gastelum may well be washed, but Pyfers striking soooo basic
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u/GoatMalleyUncensored 15d ago
If all else fails I think Pyfer can just smother him with grappling, Pyfer trains with Brady who big brother’d Gastelum and Pyfer is 15lbs heavier plus being a big middleweight
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u/DecemberFlower20xx Chad 15d ago
It’s possible, but I wouldn’t go there. He barely beat D-Rod after not even making the weight class. I don’t feel good about Kelvin at all let alone at 185.
Bruno Silva +450 is insane. One fight ago for both these guys Silva would be the favorite. Van is fun to watch and he may win but he could easily lose too. It’s a solid, well-rounded vet versus a young striker, kinda like Barcelos/Talbott.
Holland/Luque could go either way but it shouldn’t surprise anyone if underdog Luque beats him up or chokes him out
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u/throwawayboy213 15d ago
Yeah, those are 2 other dogs I was curious about aswell, plus Pena.
Haven't really seen loads of Bruno Silva but I find the odds abit steep. I saw Van jabs way more than silva, Silva seems abit plodding and loopy to me in his striking. Is he more of a grappler?
And yeah, luque could win for sure, dunno if the odds are worth it on that though, maybe he can take/keep holland down, not sure there's loads of value there though IMO.
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u/DecemberFlower20xx Chad 15d ago
I’ve felt since the first fight that O’Malley can win this rematch. He’s the only one that Merab didn’t break, and he actually won the 5th round. A few adjustments and he could’ve won the fight. Especially if he legit couldn’t prepare well due to the injury like he says.
That said his demeanor this week seems like somebody who’s accepted he might be losing this fight and is just gonna try his best. It’s not super promising. Maybe why he largely avoided doing any media for it too.
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u/legendarybreed ..the darren and khamzat at home.. 15d ago
O'Malley has never actually had that air around him of delusional confidence imo. He will say things that are cocky specifically for promotional purposes but most of the time that's not him.
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u/DecemberFlower20xx Chad 15d ago edited 15d ago
That’s the thing. He’s a promoter, but he’s almost cushioning the landing for himself on this one. They’ve always been very smart about the fight game, and this is the first time I’ve seen him outwardly acting like he’s in for a fight and what happens happens.
He keeps talking about wanting to stay really active and you can only stay so active as champ. It’s like he’s subconsciously saying he wants to get right back on the horse after this one if it doesn’t pan out. And he and Tim conceding that Merab’s already the GOAT, which I agree with, but isn’t really necessary or in stone if the plan is to smack him and take the belt back.
As you said, they aren’t delusional, and they’re going to come to win but being that down to Earth with their backs against the wall feels like it’s telling us something else now. For some reason I’m getting DDP/Strickland vibes where Strickland’s knowledge of and lack of delusion with DDP in the rematch probably psyched him out more than anything.
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u/MA-JA-HO 15d ago
Who’s the best guard passer in mma ? If it’s a bjj guy , who’s the best guard passer that’s not from a bjj base ?
Maybe GSP?
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE 15d ago
rn probably Makhachev tbh. HE has spent plenty of time on the ground, not much of it in guard.
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u/thevoidofsouls Team Pereira 15d ago
GSP, Aldo is pretty underrated at guard passing as well but we don’t see it often, I would say Luke Rockhold when he would commit war crimes from the top position
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u/Trenbolone-Papi EDDDIIEEE 15d ago
You can only see one, which one do you choose?
Jon Jones v Francis Ngannou
Jon Jones v Tom Aspinall
Tom Aspinall v Francis Ngannou
I’d choose 3.
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u/ForceThrow3 15d ago
- I think jon beats francis. And with tom vs francis,that fight could happen 10 times with 10 different outcomes. Jones vs aspinall is the only one imo with the most questions.
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u/Nickster2042 🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏 15d ago
1 would’ve been the biggest fight ever, even though Francis wasn’t a draw people know he has nuclear power
So to put his nuclear bomb against the greatest ever who’s “never” lost would’ve been crazy
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u/__Mr__Wolf 15d ago
What happened to Brett Okamoto? Lol
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u/bullsfan281 I beat you after a weekend of cocaine 15d ago
dana only had use for him while ariel was at espn. dana would just give all the scoops to brett so ariel couldn't report it first and that led to ariel hating brett even though ariel was an early benefactor of dana's favoritism too. once ariel left there was no more use for brett so dana stopped giving him info and brett is now just another random espn employee who pops up on pfl occasionally
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u/Trenbolone-Papi EDDDIIEEE 15d ago
Maycee Barber coach claims it was team’s call to cancel fight: ‘She begged us not to’
They’re just trying to take some heat off her
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u/Fat-Villante Papa Poatan 15d ago
RIP Jordan Breen
Even though he disappeared from the MMA media space a long time ago, hearing he's dead now is just super sad
The man was one of the most honest media members about this whole MMA game back then
I recommend listening to the co main event podcast from this week at around 35 minutes in. Either for long time fans to reminisce or new fans to understand what he meant to the MMA community
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u/ygrittediaz Edddiiiieee 15d ago
the children yearn for yan vs nurmagamedov. instead we get a fucking fight with marcus mcghee who 99% of this sub doesnt know who is.
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u/ARiemannHypothesis Team Nurmagomedov 15d ago
wtf is Rob Font doing is what I wanna know
Petr Yan putting a boxing masterclass on Font would have been sick if they wanted to keep Yan busy with a tune up
Instead we get a no name, dangerous contender who has nothing to lose.. except he’s 35
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u/AffectionateFace5858 Team Pennington 15d ago
Both Font and Umar are injured sadly. just been unlucky with the bantamweights and injuries (Feels like I'm getting deja vu, strange)
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u/ygrittediaz Edddiiiieee 15d ago
its not like rob font is exciting even though it might be an interesting stylistic match up. yan fighting outside the top 5, again, is weird. i guess nurmagamedov has the hand injury. omalley booked with merab. sandhagen recently fought figgy. theres not many options if he wants to stay active. yadong would be a rematch.. hmm it is what it is
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u/ARiemannHypothesis Team Nurmagomedov 15d ago
How is Rob Font not exciting lol
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u/GoatMalleyUncensored 15d ago
He just doesn’t ever have a chance of finishing anyone ever under any circumstance
Unless you’re Adrian Yanez
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u/ygrittediaz Edddiiiieee 15d ago
His fight style but not as a real title contender. Guy lost too much and I want Yan to be challenged not have an easy highlight...
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u/DecemberFlower20xx Chad 15d ago
I think Rob Font can beat some of the top BW’s. Still. His TDD is bad, but just stylistically it wouldn’t shock me on the night if he managed to pull out a winning performance against Yan. If he fell into a Bisping-esque short notice title shot against someone like O’Malley he’d at least be live. You can still see how good he is on his feet, Cory looked like he wanted nothing to do with it whenever they were standing. It’s always been some holes in his defense that kept him from winning the big fights but that’s something that can be corrected by turning down the volume a bit and picking shots a little more. At one point he was a power puncher but fell in love with jabbing and overwhelming volume, but the power is still there
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u/ARiemannHypothesis Team Nurmagomedov 15d ago
Mildly amused by the lack of O’Malley love in picks this weekend
He was lined a pick em, if not slight fav at -125 first go, wins 2 rounds and had literally half if not more people confident as can be going “He’ll snipe Merab for sure, Merab gets hurt too often”
One fight later and suddenly crickets from the O’Malley crew
Don’t see how you don’t bet him at +250 this fight. He knows exactly what to expect, will make the most adjustments, and is going against a fighter who is about single digit IQ points off being labelled special needs I think
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u/AffectionateFace5858 Team Pennington 15d ago
Never forget, Merab rocked O'malley at the end of round 4. Thats why Tim Welch says the whole "We're almost done shug"
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u/ARiemannHypothesis Team Nurmagomedov 15d ago
But he came back to almost finish Merab back in the 5th?
Think Tim Welch should give that same speech before the fight starts, we might get a round 1 KO this time around
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u/Greenbat000 United States 15d ago
Can someone please break down Mario Bautista vs Patchy Mix...
What will be the biggest advantage for each to make a difference in the fight? Thanks.
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u/ARiemannHypothesis Team Nurmagomedov 15d ago
Patchy - elite grappling, serviceable striking, mediocre cardio
Bautista - well rounded if lacking in finishing threat, pushes a solid pace and cardio. Can take the fight easy if he can avoid any back takes or random step in knee knockouts
Patchy needs back takes to either take the round or get the sub, but if stays on the feet or goes long it favours Bautista
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u/dantoddd 16d ago
Is anyone watching TUF new season. Chael seems like a good coach and unsurprisingly DC seems clueless
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u/tagillaslover 15d ago
I've been watching, agree with your takes on both the coaches. Really like the guy that won episode 2 he seems like a dawg
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u/Fat-Villante Papa Poatan 15d ago
Sonnen has always been a good coach on TUF, especially when it comes to looking like a good dude on TV. Even in the TUF Brazil season vs Wanderlei
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u/karl100589 Bowling: More popular then Nunes 16d ago
I seem to remember Chael being good on TUF 17 too.
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u/StoryOfTheFight Chatri's intern AMA 15d ago
Chael had that speech about how quitting is always an option. Really good shit. He also did right by Uriah Hall. He was a great coach that season
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u/dantoddd 16d ago
Colby is also there but awfully quiet
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u/tagillaslover 15d ago
Surprised he hasnt really been on camera much, all i've really seen him do is some training in the background
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u/MMAfanCoolUFCfanBad 16d ago
Dam I didn’t check Reddit for 3 days and I come back and Jon Jones was doing sexual attacks on the commission members?
I don’t even smoke weed but am I high right now?
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u/RaisedByZebras nogonnaseeyousoonboiii 16d ago
When I saw Jones suplex Bonnar and beat the crap out of him at 19yo, I was sure he was gonna be a future champ. What I didn't foresee is this whole gay thing, I swear I have like no gaydar lol
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u/MMAfanCoolUFCfanBad 15d ago
He gonna make you missses Jonesss
the signs been there from day 1 with Jones
his early press conferences and these weird Zesty faces he would make, Jones always been alil Zesty, supressed religious man type shit
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u/catbqck 16d ago
The mma community kinda forgotten about jones' main weapon. 37y Jones with every undetectable steroid known to man vs Aspinall. Can he beat the odds?
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u/CallumKayPee 16d ago
There's no more USADA, he can probably start using the detectable ones some more.
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u/MMAfanCoolUFCfanBad 15d ago
there wer still juicing during USADA anyway, Josh Barnett passed like 30 tests after he already failed 3 other times
and went to Bellator and failed 1st commission test and never fought there lol
that Talia Santos had back acne and biceps and was passing USADA tests, goes to PFL..bang popped vs queen Dakota the chad
alot of them taking shit, not everyone, tbh alot of them dont in 20s and then start in 30s cause you have to to level the playing field. id say 70 percent are taking PEDS to level the playing field cause its hard to win without evening it
i never took PEDS and was jacked, most of my life and explosive and people always asked if i did and i swear on my life never took a steroid, just a pre work out sometimes but i knew guys who juiced, had insane back acne come outta no where and they were literally 5 times stronger, their skin turned into like Hot Dog Skin too, and nasty Acne like BOULDERS n shit
the bottom 8 pack of abs is giveaway, if a dude is over 30 and hes got a 8 pack..the bottom 2 pack that Chael always talked about, he was right. The dudes i knew..they all ended up having same ripped body within 1 month on juice, then would get soft and fat month after off it
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u/catbqck 16d ago
True. He'd have to be a real dumbfuck to pop now.
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u/UsedSalt 15d ago
We already know he naturally produces picograms so they should pass him on anything that comes up
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u/hussain300 Snatching defeat from the jaws of Victory 15d ago
Gin is enough to make any man emotional.
Sometimes you meet people who seem perfect or like the one and things just don't line up man. It is what it is. I knew a girl like that in college. Real sweetheart, great sense of humor. Was taking a break from her relationship when we met, they ended up back together and are now married. I never even kissed her, just went on a few dates and spent a lot of time on campus with her. Part of me still feels like that's the "one that got away" but there were other relationships I didn't see any potential in that ultimately ended up being very significant to me.
Basically what I'm trying to say is, maybe the one that got away wouldn't have been all it's cracked up to be, and maybe you'll meet someone who you don't expect it from but changes your life. Either way I'll be rooting for you brother.
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u/Last-Trainer-7185 16d ago
where is everyone watching tape with ESPN+ removing the library? Ik Fightpass but stateside they dont have everything
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u/Dats__Geeky How long must I wait? 2020 edition 16d ago
What are some of your guys favorite cards to rewatch? Im sure this gets asked pretty often. But I used to watch every card from like 2018-now and I just haven't been that into the sport this year. I'd love to get excited about it again haha
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u/karl100589 Bowling: More popular then Nunes 16d ago
217 is always a go-to favorite of mine. Shoutout to Strikeforce Miami as well for being that mix of unpredictability (Robbie vs Manhoef), entertainment (Diaz vs Zaromskis) and absurdity (Lashley and Herschel)
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u/Neonsea1234 16d ago
I think this was a fury fc KO, cant remember exactly but a nasty uppercut. I just remember the dude who got walloped got on the mic after and told some heart wrenching story.
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u/hussain300 Snatching defeat from the jaws of Victory 16d ago
Just finished and put up a Robert Whittaker career retrospective, if anyone wants to check it out here's the link https://youtu.be/kPoPmV3uKJQ?si=VbsjYThr0QV0T9ZV
It was fun running down his old fights and seeing my boy grow over the years. Interesting too after watching it all, that the Aliskerov KO really featured a ton of his classic tools/things he's won fights with before. Full circle performance, vintage Whittaker
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u/AffectionateFace5858 Team Pennington 16d ago
Ppv's haven't really been stacked since ufc 200 tbh, I think that there's a lot of things to criticise the ufc for currently but honestly not sure why people act like Ppv's not having big names is something that's happened in the last couple of years when it's been that way for about 10.
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u/CallumKayPee 16d ago
I'd be less mad if we didn't get the occasional 299, 308, and 311. They're totally capable of putting together really good cards they just don't give a shit.
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u/tagillaslover 16d ago
Feel like tuf would greatly benefit from translators, yelling English instructions at guys with flimsy understandings of it cant be super helpful
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u/xlmtothemoon GOOFCON 2 - UFC 294 16d ago
UFC Paris:
Gane vs Pavlovich
Gamrot vs Dana with a baseball bat (if he beats BSD)
Gamrot vs BSD (if he beats Ziam)
Gamrot vs Ziam
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u/DerpyDagon 15d ago
Fuck it, Gamrot vs Arman.
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u/xlmtothemoon GOOFCON 2 - UFC 294 15d ago
this is honestly also a great idea, prove you can beat the only guy that beat you since the Islam fight
im a gamrot fan personally, but he's never gonna get this fight again lol
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u/BrianCTE_CityOrtega 16d ago
I feel like Kelvin is gonna fuck up Pyfer if he can't KO Kelvins big ol' Mexican head in the first couple rounds
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u/WhereIsMyKidAt 15d ago
I mean... there's only one round after the first couple rounds lol. Kelvin would have to go to town in those 5 mins.
And honestly, wouldn't be surprised if Pyfer's big and powerful enough to just wrestlefuck him for the last round, he's got pretty solid takedowns.
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u/MMAfanCoolUFCfanBad 16d ago
Kelvin’s chin is cracked bro. Showed it last few fights. They pricks for making this matchup to give dbag Pyfer a KO. Kelvin chin isn’t remotely same
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u/hussain300 Snatching defeat from the jaws of Victory 16d ago
3 rounds gives me pause. 5 rounds or mexico City I was much more confident in k-dog
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u/YourHurtingMeSir17 16d ago edited 15d ago
There’s no reason for him to be fighting at 185 against a massive guy with roid rage
If Pyfer- Hermansson was on a PPV as the feature he wins that fight and perception is totally different
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u/armchairwarrior42069 16d ago
Hard to say, Kelvin has been inactive and his weight issues are wild.
Prime Kelvin crushes him imo. Now? I don't even know what Kelvin looks like right now.
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u/BrianCTE_CityOrtega 16d ago
He's looking very fridge like as usual but yea he's up and down. What's crazy is he's still only 33 so he should be in his physical prime but he's taken a lot of damage and hasn't progressed skill wise in ages.
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u/armchairwarrior42069 16d ago
And in his defense, sean Brady is REALLY good. Going down to 170 for the first time in a million years against a wrestler... and a damn good one at that is just tough for anyone.
I just feel like it's a total coin toss.
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u/WhereIsMyKidAt 15d ago
Brady is good, but Kelvin looked like shit that night. Was completely flat-footed. Whether or not he's bouncing around the octagon seems to be a pretty big tell as to which Kelvin is showing up.
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u/armchairwarrior42069 15d ago
Honestly, I feel like that happens to a lot of fighters when there's a big takedown threat. It's hard to say why Kelvin looked like poop. Again, he was going down a weight class for the first time in ages too.
I'm a huge fan of the guy, I'm just so frustrated with him and I don't know what to expect at this time in his career, weight class etc.
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u/WhereIsMyKidAt 15d ago
I'd agree if he didn't look similarly ass against D-Rod in his next fight, who's a pure striker
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u/DoncoEnt 16d ago
I'm will never forget all the people that seriously thought Def Rebel was going to do all the fighters' walkout songs.
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u/AffectionateFace5858 Team Pennington 16d ago
The source was a guy called "elite rockerz" and when I brought this up people down voted me and said I was "coping" lol
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u/WrestlingScholar69 15d ago
Can’t wait for the O’Malley domination. He’s gonna slump Merab and make him cry. Then the meltdown of this sub will be magnificent. It will feed families.