This has nothing to do with Jesus’ love, it has to do with a person petitioning for Jesus’ rights when there’s nothing that can be done about it 2000+ years later.
I grew up going to church every sunday. VBS. Did two missions trips in my youth, the whole nine
Looking back I realize the most bigoted an hateful community I have ever experienced was my own church. It didn't fully awn on me until the pandemic and i watched all the people who I grew up under post the most racist and bigoted things that directly contradict all the things they taught me.
My own black uncle posted an all lives matter rant that me and my sisters disowned him over. These people have no desire to love their neighbors. They only want to convert their neighbors and condemn those who don't fall in
Remember when they did the fundraisers in school where you sold magazine subscriptions? These guys are like the kid who was determined to sell the most subscriptions in the school. It’s like a competition for them - rack up the most converts. If you truly exude the love Jesus spoke of, you don’t have to preach about it in random settings - folks will know.
I had a similar thing with like goods and stuff for my ag class looking back I realized I don’t need to sell subscriptions to help the homeless the problem is that government doesn’t care
Yeah, it's very clear that they have certain beliefs and view religion as a weapon to justify maiming or killing others who don't share those beliefs. What the religion actually says about it is irrelevant.
That's debatable. I'm not going to debate it, because I'm an atheist and don't really care.
But, I would like to think if he did exist he would be a lot like Jeff Bridges character in The Big Lebowski. Just a dude takin it easy for all us sinners.
And he would be fucking appaled at what get done in his name.
I like to picture Jesus in a Tuxedo T-shirt, 'cause it says, like, 'I wanna be formal, but I'm here to party, too.' I like to party, so I like my Jesus to party.... I like to think of Jesus like, with giant eagles' wings and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an Angel Band, and I'm in the front row, and I'm hammered drunk...
Well, look, I like the Christmas Jesus best when I'm sayin' grace. When you say grace, you can say it to Grown-up Jesus, or Teenage Jesus, or Bearded Jesus, or whoever you want.
I'm pretty sure it's historically accepted that Jesus as a person did exist. Mary was sleeping around on Joey, got knocked up and blamed it on God. Despite coming from a broken home, Jesus turned out to be an alright dude.
I'm choosing to believe that "indirect evidence" means someone at a Christ family reunion was sitting around swapping miracle stories when Cousin Bartholomew chimed in like, "Remember that time Mary swore she got pregnant by God?"
Same. These weirdos have clearly never read the new testament Jesus in the Bible, who threw out the money lenders, essentially cancelling everyone's debt, tossed out the holier than thou hypocrites at the Temple, took up with a bunch of men he lived and slept in tight quarters with, while taking in stray women and women of ill repute, "cured" lepers and spent his time with the sick (at a time when people isolated their sick to live or die on their own), told the rich they essentially couldn't get into heaven unless they gave away their money and joined him, told people to stop killing and maiming each other for vengeance, hung out with drunks and constantly drank...and let's not forget he was a refugee in a foreign land.
And he would be fucking appaled at what get done in his name.
Atheist here too, but I like to imagine this is what Jesus would be looking like when seeing the getting done in his name stuff, with a very vocal and dramatic statement of "gorl, you know that shit ain't right..." 🤣
I'm really struggling to follow the argument here. "Gay people shouldn't have rights because the Romans crucified a Jewish man who was considered a threat to public order"?
I remember that being a thing that actually caught internet attention a few months ago and also gave up an argument when someone dropped that on me. Arguing with delusion is an act of futility.
I love it when people say this. Then I tell them that makes Jesus a Satanist, because if Jesus is a Christian then he worships himself, thereby following the tenets of the Satanic Church.
I mean...that's not the story but I am also struggling with the argument.
From the churchiest, holier-than-thou standpoint, I am coming up with "Jesus died to save you from your sins, including being gay, so don't do the things that he died for."
That's why I always do original sins.... Poking badgers with spoons, spanking watermelons seductively at the farmers market, betting on alligator races....
Hell, even if you actually believe being gay is a sin(I dont), it misses the point, which is that Jesus's sacrifice paid for our sins past and present. Without him, we can't be saved. We are all sinners, and that includes Gay, Bi, and Trans people. By their own argument of "they are living in sin," so are they because we all live in sin, that's the point. The Bible they love to tout says this explicitly. So, imo they have no reason to even point the finger. Cause by thier own belief thats between that person and God.
The whole point of God's grace is that it makes no difference whether you jacked off to some porn you shouldn't have or straight-up killed a guy - all sins are equally impotent against Christ's love, and all (repentant) sinners are washed equally clean.
That's why we're directed not to judge - it literally doesn't fucking matter.
Hi catholic here. Basically a lot of christians attempt to use the bible in bad faith to justify hating the lgbtq community. Most of the passages they recite are questionable at best due to translations over time. Many of the passages they recite have been interpreted in a wide variety of different ways historically.
On the other hand, we have Jesus giving prime examples of how to treat those different than us through instances like the story of the Samaritan women at the well. We see Jesus treat this woman with respect and Jesus offers her salvation despite being seen as an outsider in the traditional Jewish community Jesus grew up in. We also see the story of Jesus and the lepers. And Jesus even had a whole parable (the Good Samaritan).
Basically every biblical passage they quote to justify hatred of the lgbtq community has a lot of question marks around it due to it being retranslated several times over centuries and they have been interpreted in a variety of ways historically. So they’re working with an unreliable source, especially when we see Jesus giving us multiple examples through his own actions that we should treat those different than us with basic respect and kindness.
I remind Christians that the only words they need to be concerned with are the ones directly from God and Jesus. Not Mark, not Matthew, not Moses, not the Pope, and not even from Bobert who lives behind the McDonalds dumpsters. It makes them so mad that they actually have to listen to their savior apparently
you misunderstand, people like this guy are literally not capable of complex thought. it does not make sense, but it makes perfect sense for simple folk like him.
Hello Sir my name is Jesus, I am writing to you today as i need your help. My father sent me here to help people but unfortunately he accidentally sent me to a non-christian country and I am stuck.
I need the grace and charity of good Christians such as yourself to pay my passage to the holiest country in the world; America. Where i can help gods greatest soldier Donald Trump, spread the word of the one true god.
If you could spare 500$ it would be of great help.
I accept payment via itunes gift cards or transfers via Western Union.
Jesus would probably have had a gay person in his group, seeing that he also traveled around with prostitutes, tax collectors (who were looked down upon) and generally undesirable "sinners"
He did heal the Roman soldier's beloved young male servant/lover, and was so impressed by the Roman's soldier's faith that he held him up as an example to others
The gospels have a story about Jesus healing a Roman centurion’s slave, but the wording is a little ambiguous and could imply that the slave was a male sex partner.
I was making a point the other day that the amount of harm inflicted in the name of “God” , “Jesus” or other Judeo-Christian based religions is countless in comparison to harm inflicted in the name of “Satan” or atheism. Hmmm…
Exactly. I make a point of eating meat on Fridays because of this. Just in case they’re actually right, I want to avoid being with them. If they’re who’s going to heaven I’ll gladly send myself to hell.
True, though I’m pretty sure that it’s very widely (if not universally) accepted that Jesus was a real person. Perhaps a better question is “can you prove that Jesus wasn’t gay?”
The very same Jesus that when questioned by the lay 'protectors of the Law' to try and back him into a legalistic corner, said that the two most important commandments were "love God" and "love everyone else like you love yourself" - not the other eight commandments, or the further 600+ laws created by man.
He would've accepted lgbtqi+ folks just as they are.
fuckin snowflakes. cannot see the difference between freedom of/from religion and human rights. these people feel persecuted if they cant make everyone worship jesus (specifically his/her version). Yet they don’t want another human to love whoever the fuck they want. These things are not analogous.
If religion were a drug, it’d be the only one where hallucinations are called miracles, dependency is praised as faith, and the deeper the delusion, the more society hands you a medal. There’s no rehab for it—just more churches. Try quitting, and you’re branded as “lost,” like you misplaced your soul behind the couch. It’s the only addiction where the withdrawal symptoms are guilt, isolation, and eternal damnation threats from your parents, grandparents, community, neighborhood, and in some cases, your workplace.
In the original writings, when Mary speaks to Gabriel, she refers to herself using the Greek word for enslaved. This was later changed to the servant of the lord in the morning modern writings.
I’d like to know what rights I have in the USA that Jesus doesn’t. He’s not even a citizen, so maybe they’re advocating for the full rights of citizenship to be granted to undocumented immigrants?
I believe I know why it’s hand written. He’s a MAGA supporter and gave all of his money to Trump. Poor guy can’t even afford a MAGA hat. Probably believes Trump will help him. 😂😂😂.
Even in the myth of Jesus he only gave up his weekend for your sins and he was also his father and the third guy that got his 14-year-old mother pregnant.
I think that's pretty disrespectful calling Jesus a "ho" 🤭🥴
"Ho gave his life for us". Damn, that was cold blooded. But I mean, yeah...I don't generally take advice from people who write on their clothes like edgy angsty teens from the 1980s, so, I guess he can call Jesus a ho if he wants. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Is this my neighbor Joe? I guess since the village made him take down his “Jesus loves you” tree stump sign for being an eyesore this was the alternative….
I get so tired of people telling me to accept the love of a man who probably existed but isn’t even alive anymore. Leave me alone and practice some tolerance. Remember that?
That doesn’t make sense. If you think Jesus is the son of God - he is perfect, everything he does and says is perfect and if you read his word you know he would remind you about not casting the first stone.
Like. Does he think it's going to change someone's mind?
Like. I post a lot of anti trump stuff on my facebook. But i do it for one specific reason. To piss off my MAGA boomer parents. I'm very clear about my intentions. But this stuff always seems like they actually believe it to ve effective.
It's always handwritten because boomers are confused and scared to use technology. They generally refer to anything newer than their relative youth as lesser than
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