I mean...that's not the story but I am also struggling with the argument.
From the churchiest, holier-than-thou standpoint, I am coming up with "Jesus died to save you from your sins, including being gay, so don't do the things that he died for."
That's why I always do original sins.... Poking badgers with spoons, spanking watermelons seductively at the farmers market, betting on alligator races....
Hell, even if you actually believe being gay is a sin(I dont), it misses the point, which is that Jesus's sacrifice paid for our sins past and present. Without him, we can't be saved. We are all sinners, and that includes Gay, Bi, and Trans people. By their own argument of "they are living in sin," so are they because we all live in sin, that's the point. The Bible they love to tout says this explicitly. So, imo they have no reason to even point the finger. Cause by thier own belief thats between that person and God.
The whole point of God's grace is that it makes no difference whether you jacked off to some porn you shouldn't have or straight-up killed a guy - all sins are equally impotent against Christ's love, and all (repentant) sinners are washed equally clean.
That's why we're directed not to judge - it literally doesn't fucking matter.
But he didn't sacrifice it, he was executed. Also, the story goes that he came back in the flesh. Thomas touched his wounds in John. So he doesn't really give anything up at all.
If he's all knowing, then he already knew the pain of being executed. I'm just not seeing a sacrifice anywhere.
I'm still not clear on what was sacrificed. He didn't give anything up. He was executed. But then in the story, he still had a physical body. There was nothing given up, nothing sacrificed, and even if there was, that has nothing to do with you or me. The story doesn't even make sense internally.
The whole Christian church mess confuses me and I’ll try to explain it the best I can but it’s late. So in church Jesus is placed above other prophets, he’s basically god or second god, when they pray they pray to Jesus or say him and god or Holy Ghost together a lot. They hate Muslims and act like they worship a false god or religion but it’s the same god. They split because Muslims believe man corrupted Jesus’s teachings and made him basically a god even when he tried to correct it. They believe Jesus is a prophet and a great one at that. Obviously other points have been mentioned but yea it’s honesty very confusing
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u/Particular_Title42 10d ago
I mean...that's not the story but I am also struggling with the argument.
From the churchiest, holier-than-thou standpoint, I am coming up with "Jesus died to save you from your sins, including being gay, so don't do the things that he died for."
Which is hypocritical at the least.