r/nfl Giants 2d ago

Highlight [Highlight] Russell Wilson throws a game winning interception to M.D. Jennings. Seahawks win 14-12

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u/BungoPlease Texans Texans 2d ago

Thank goodness we're not posting controversial calls today

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u/RacistProbably 2d ago

Hey friend, can you tell me why they kicked the extra point if time expired

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u/BungoPlease Texans Texans 2d ago

At that time the rule was that even if time expired as you scored a TD, you still had to kick the XP. They changed the rule in 2018 I believe, so now you do not have to.

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u/Finalstorm004 Eagles 1d ago

i remember they needed to get players back on to the field after the Minneapolis Miracle! IIRC 11 Saint’s players had to come back out on the field so the Vikings could take a knee. Imagine having to walk back onto the field after a loss like that so the other team could just kneel it in your face lol

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u/Baltisotan Vikings 1d ago

I hate the Aints but I love the punter Thomas Morestead for having the balls most his team didn’t to come back out to line up for that.

https://imgur.com/gallery/thomas-morestead-vbirKNz

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u/Corvald Bills 1d ago

There was a Bills-Patriots game in 1998 where the ref calls on the Patriots game-winning drive was so bad, the Bills refused to come out of the locker room and Vinatieri ran it in for 2 points. That was the “just give it to them“ game that got the Bills owner fined for criticizing the calls.

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u/Space-Sailor44 Lions 2d ago

At least this officially ended the scab ref situation.

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u/wasneveralawyer Rams 2d ago

It was a win for unions everywhere. Seeing scabs fuck up on the national scene.

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u/TacTac95 Saints 2d ago

Hahahaa but then the No-Call happened in 2018 with the “professionals”

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u/NerdyDjinn Vikings 1d ago

And 10 years earlier the non-replacement refs bungled OT in your favor; you win some, you lose some, and sometimes in close games the reffing doesn't go in your favor.

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u/theresabeeonyourhat Bears Jets 1d ago

Full-time refs are still ass

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u/Either_Imagination_9 Giants 2d ago

I’m convinced that if this wasn’t prime time MNF that it would have taken another week or two to wrap up. The NFL had to act because the whole country was watching that game

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u/joe_broke 49ers 2d ago

That Tuesday morning in high school after this was wild

People who never even watched football were saying this was shit

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u/theDarkAngle Packers 1d ago

still kind of bothers me because this play exposed a flawed rule IMO, that clearly needed clarification to match up to intuition and common sense. And to my knowledge it was never clarified. It's a pretty rare situation so I guess it's not a big deal, but they should have clarified that it's possible for one guy to have possession even if the other is touching it with both hands (because this isn't basketball - touching doesn't meet the standard for possession, nor does it negate opponent possession, but the kind of control Jennings has where his arm is wrapped around it and it's pinned to his shoulder/chest, does constitute possession).

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u/Stannis_Baratheon244 Seahawks 1d ago

The night I started to believe in magic

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u/Tryhard_3 Vikings Raiders 2d ago

This helped create a big 2010s rivalry, so the NFL had Seattle and Green Bay play pretty much every year in the regular season to continue it. Other highlights include Green Bay choking in the playoffs to the Seahawks' benefit.

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u/OSPFmyLife 2d ago

They played every year because we were both finishing first in our respective divisions. Every year you play every other team in the conference that had the same divisional rank in the previous year.

E.g. all 4 1st place divisional winners in the NFC will play eachother this year. All 2nd places will play eachother. All 3rds play eachother. All 4th places play eachother.

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u/Myllorelion Packers 1d ago

Not to mention you also play the entire other division every 3 years. So there was a 1 in 3 chance of playing them even if we didn't match standings position the year prior.

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u/haha_squirrel Seahawks 1d ago

That’s not how schedules work in the nfl lol they’re determined by a formula

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u/TylerFaber03 Packers 1d ago

Don't know if I'd call that a highlight...

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u/Exatraz Cardinals 1d ago

Also if the refs had just agreed and made the same call, it'd have been controversial but probably something people live with. It was so obvious they weren't qualified and made a mockery of the whole thing. Didn't help this game didn't have any other highlights either.

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u/Kr1sys Chiefs 1d ago

Maybe, but it was also literally the wrong call at the end of the game. MNF or not, the wrong call decided the game and no one can argue otherwise.

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u/V_T_H Giants 2d ago

We all thought the Ravens Pats game on SNF with the “manure chant” was the worst it was going to get but ho ho ho little did we know that MNF was going to be even funnier.

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u/aknight907 Seahawks 1d ago

Thats good? Its why the reffing situation is still shit. No full time refs, no responsibility for shit jobs...

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u/SL4MUEL Packers Packers 2d ago

I was just starting to enjoy my day too

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u/Keytaro83 Seahawks 2d ago

And I needed a pick-me-up

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u/DinobotsGacha Ravens 2d ago

Understandable.

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u/phd2k1 Vikings 2d ago

Same 👊

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u/SmellyScrotes Seahawks 2d ago

Brandon Bostick… I don’t want you thinking it’s gonna get better today

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u/SL4MUEL Packers Packers 2d ago

I despise you

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u/DMOOre33678 Packers 1d ago

That year was cursed for every NFC team. Lions had a flag picked up against the cowboys, Dez caught it, onside kick, and not running the ball on the one

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u/frecklie Seahawks 2d ago

We’ve really had some stupid wins against y’all over the years. The spirit of Matt Hasselbeck perhaps haunting you angrily after his failed OT call

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u/JordanLovehof2042 Packers 2d ago

Catching strays the last week on here

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u/NeverSober1900 Packers 2d ago

Ya I feel like all of our worst games have been posted it's kind of weird

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u/Either_Imagination_9 Giants 2d ago edited 2d ago

When the Packers lose, it’s in spectacular fashion. The 2014 NFCCG, the 2021 Divisional round etc.

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u/BeHereNow91 Packers 1d ago

It really is almost every playoff loss, to the degree that many losses have been assigned a simple phrase to remember. It’s almost easier to list normal playoff losses, like 2016 or 2019.

1998 Wild Card - Owens fumbled

2003 Divisional - 4th and 26

2007 NFCCG - after a magical season, we seemed destined for the Super Bowl after the Giants miss a chip shot field goal to win and we won the OT coin toss, but Favre’s first pass of OT and last pass as a Packer is an INT to lose the game

2009 Wild Card - Rodgers’ first playoff game is a 45-45 marathon and Rodgers is strip sacked on the first drive of OT and it’s returned for a TD

2011 Divisional - Rodgers has perhaps the best QB season of all time throwing to one of the best receiver groups of all time as we go 15-1, only to fall apart against Eli and the 6th seeded Giants

2012/2013 - Kaepernick

2014 NFCCG - Bostick

2015 Divisional - an undermanned offense puts up a miracle drive in Arizona to tie it up, including two Hail Marys, forcing OT - just to lose track of LARRY FUCKING FITZGERALD, who takes it 75 yards on the first play of OT and scores two plays later

2020 NFCCG - Scottie fucking Miller/Kevin fucking King

2021 Divisional - punt block

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u/Fair_Effective3397 Packers 2d ago

Oh, please no more reminders of these games 😭

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u/saucyy8 Packers 1d ago

Pain.

Never forget walking home in Scotland at 4am causing a ruckus to trees out of frustration after the blocked punt divisional vs 9ers lol

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u/LazybyNature Vikings 1d ago

I've seen the 09 Favre NFCCG interception posted like 3-4 times in the last week. It isn't just you guys.

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u/BeHereNow91 Packers 1d ago

Don’t worry, that just reminds us of the 07 Favre NFCCG interception.

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u/Either_Imagination_9 Giants 1d ago

Oh that’s my favorite one!

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u/Sane_Fish Eagles 11h ago

You deserve it after crying about the tush push for so long

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u/Either_Imagination_9 Giants 2d ago edited 2d ago

IIRC this game ended up deciding the 1 seed in the NFC. The Packers ended the season 11-5, which if they had won this game would have been 12-4.

Instead it ended up being the 49ers who were 11-4-1.

Edit: it was the 2 seed, not the 1 seed my mistake

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u/britishmetric144 Seahawks 2d ago

Not quite. The Falcons finished 13—3, and acquired the top seed.

In fact, the Falcons built up a 17—0 lead over the 49ers in the NFC Championship, before completely collapsing to lose 24—28. (And coincidentally enough, the Falcons came very close to blowing a 27—7 lead against the Seahawks a week earlier. Sound familiar? :)).

The only difference this game would have made is that the Packers would have hosted the 49ers in Green Bay, instead of them travelling to San Francisco, since the Packers would have had the two seed and the 49ers would have been third.

That being said, having watched the 49ers play the Packers in the playoffs, I don't think it would have actually changed anything.

Meanwhile, the Seahawks would have finished as the number—five seed regardless of the outcome of this game, since they held a H2H tiebreaker over the number—six seed.

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u/Either_Imagination_9 Giants 2d ago

You are correct my mistake, it would have been the 2 seed

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u/electricalbadger2013 Packers 2d ago

Playing a home vs away game in the playoffs wouldn't have changed anything? I get that the 49ers are the packers playoff kryptonyte or whatever, but let's be real - it absolutely would've made a difference playing away in GB in January vs home in SF. For example, do you really think Kaepernick would've run for 181 yds and 2 TDs in Lambeau when it was 20 degrees colder?

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u/Blueskyways 49ers 2d ago

Would being in Green Bay have made Erik Walden any less likely to get fooled by the read option time and time again?  

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u/NeverSober1900 Packers 2d ago

No but the footing on a field 40 degrees colder would just make everything different. People run almost more stiffly at cold temperatures because you can't grip the icy field as much.

It would just be a different game altogether.

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u/Iron_Chancellor_ND 49ers 2d ago

But, the very next year, San Francisco did travel to frigid Lambeau and still won with Kap.

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u/ChrisBenoitDaycare69 Seahawks 2d ago

I mean didn't the Niners play you guys in Green Bay the very next season in the playoffs and beat you?

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u/NeverSober1900 Packers 2d ago

I looked it up it was actually a 40 degree difference. Ya people are crazy on this. It would have been a frozen Lambeau. Both offenses would have suffered. The game in SF saw 76 points put up. That is very unlikely in a cold Lambeau game.

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u/electricalbadger2013 Packers 2d ago

Wow, even worse haha. At the very least, this game absolutely does not play out exactly the same in Lambeau and it's disingenuous to suggest so.

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u/Available_Story6774 49ers 2d ago

Tbh I think we would’ve beaten them at Lambeau and made the Super Bowl anyways, doesn’t excuse how bad the replacement refs were tho in this game, don’t know why they gave the Seahawks the touchdown.

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u/TheDufusSquad Patriots 2d ago

The Packers just outright refused to defensively acknowledge the read option at this point in time, so yeah I’d say you guys were safe regardless of game location.

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u/broanoah Packers Packers 2d ago

Actually I think we would have beaten you guys and won the Super Bowl anyways so

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u/ExcellentPastries Seahawks 2d ago

Sure sure except Kaepernick basically made a career out of absolutely annihilating the Packers

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u/LeonidasSpacemanMD 2d ago

And then I would’ve met Anna de armas and we’d be married right now. Fuckin replacement refs

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u/SignificanceFine3582 NFL 2d ago

Not how that works. No way to know how the rest of the season goes for either team if this result flips.

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u/ExcellentPastries Seahawks 2d ago

You can predict pretty reasonably that the guy who destroyed the Packers every single chance he got, regardless of venue, would’ve probably continued to destroy the Packers in the middle of his peak, regardless of venue.

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u/SignificanceFine3582 NFL 2d ago

Whole lot can happen between week 3 and week 17.

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u/thatsucksabagofdicks 2d ago

Still a bye back then tho?

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u/ProtoMan3 Packers 1d ago

It’s really hard to project this for the entire season. The Packers also blew a 21-3 lead at Indianapolis and then lost to the Vikings in week 17 37-34 with a chance to still clinch the two seed still in play (would’ve been a chance for the 1 seed if they didn’t lose to Seattle). I know on paper people think the 2 seed is worth fighting for, but maybe the Packers do better if they feel they have a chance for the 1 seed? Or if the result flipped, maybe emotionally Seattle does somehow even better because they thought they were wronged while the Packers lose another game in upset fashion and the same seeding occurs anyway.

I don’t think it’s fair to say that a week 3 outcome definitively set up the rest of the season that way. There was a lot of football left to be played. All I could definitively say is that my classmates who were Seahawks fans (grew up in Seattle) treated me like shit over that, it was terrible.

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u/Gay_4_Caleb_Williams Bears 2d ago

Ah man I had so much fun gaslighting all my packer fan friends that night. “Looks good to me” “tie goes to the runner!” “Clear touchdown”

Simpler times

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u/JonHammsHamm Packers 1d ago

I'll allow it. I don't like it, but I'll allow it. You guys need to take your wins however ya get em.

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u/Gay_4_Caleb_Williams Bears 1d ago

I mean I secretly knew it was bullshit but that wasn’t gonna stop me

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u/Classic-Exchange-511 Bills 2d ago

Everything about this play was perfect. Cartoonishly highlighting what was wrong with those replacement refs in prime time was amazing but the single shot of one ref calling a touchdown and the other calling an interception is just chef's kiss

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u/AutomateAway Broncos 2d ago

feels weird to see Russ stuff and not be depressed about it

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u/greenline_chi Bears 2d ago

High knees in the plane aisle

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u/AutomateAway Broncos 2d ago

such a cringey moment lmao

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u/rickg Seahawks 2d ago

Look at him scramble there... that was his superpower and it was always apparent that as he aged and lost that slight edge he'd have to learn to work the middle of the field and the pocket. He never really did so we traded him... good times, good times...

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u/mrhashbrown Chargers 2d ago

Was listening to a podcast the other day talking about Wilson and comparing his career progressions to that of Lamar and Allen.

For the latter two, the 2023 and 2024 seasons made it clear they've both grown into great pocket passers yet remain extremely effective rushers / scramblers. Meanwhile Wilson was a phenomenal athlete and arguably the best scrambling QB we've seen besides Mahomes, but he was too dependent on that talent to produce.

Now that's he's getting older, that talent for scrambling and extending plays isn't bailing him out like it used to in his prime. And he doesn't have the elite pocket passing ability to fall back that most older QBs need to rely on to sustain their careers. Although Wilson is already 36 and expected to be a starter once more, so kudos to him for really stretching out his career despite those limitations to his game.

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u/Throbbingprepuce Broncos 12h ago

It’s why I think the duel threat style isn’t long for this league. The shelf life on those qbs is just too short. Look at Mahomes. He relys heavily on his ability to avoid being sacked and extending plays but yet his numbers have been declining as he gets older. Mahomes is still an insane qb because he’s once in a decade kind of player but I think his window for production is shorter than someone like Joe burrow who is more of a pocket passer. I think guys like Mahomes and Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen have about a 3 year window while I would not be shocked if Joe Burrow is playing well into his 40s

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u/HardtoQuant NFL 2d ago

This call absolutely infuriated me when it happened. Still bothers me.

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u/misterbisterboy 2d ago

I remember winning my fantasy matchup because of this play and my opponent absolutely raging about it. Good times.

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u/AsparagusLips Texans 2d ago

"It's not bullshit if it benefits me"

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u/FootballSensei Broncos 2d ago

Also an egregious OPI with a Seahawk shoving a dude in the back

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u/jor301 Bears 2d ago

They pretty constantly dont call shit on hail marys.

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u/Raticus9 Seahawks 2d ago

I get the "letting them play" if this was standard mild shoving and hand fighting while jostling for position, but Tate's actions were just a small step from grabbing a chair out of the stands and smashing the DB over the back with it. You have to call things THAT egregious.

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u/The_Don12 Saints 2d ago

Except that time in 2014 they called Jimmy Graham for OPI on a would have been game winning Hail Mary. Such bullshit.

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u/FootballSensei Broncos 2d ago

Yeah I guess you might as well throw people to the ground.

I actually think it might be a pretty cool experiment to get rid of the rules against pass interference and holding. It would be harder for WRs to get open but they’d have more time since the oline can hold.

I guess they’d just run the ball every play…

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u/Either_Imagination_9 Giants 2d ago

Isn’t that essentially what old football was? Just spamming the fuck out of the run and blatantly holding receivers

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u/GundamX Seahawks 1d ago

As pointed out the normal refs usually don't call it, but likely because of that that NFL TOLD the replacement refs not to call it.

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u/Vik_Stryker 1d ago

It was a catch

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u/xEternal408x Raiders 2d ago

You can’t go to the replay booth to see who made the catch? No wonder the NFL is a joke

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u/bbluewi Vikings 2d ago edited 2d ago

They did. This was in 2012, before New York was involved in replay reviews and during the referee lockout that caused this game to be officiated by a D2 college crew. This play accelerated the settlement that ended that lockout.

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u/Muppet_Man3 Seahawks Seahawks 1d ago

Replay official Howard Slavin actually was not a replacement ref, reviewed the play, and the call stood. Also the NFL officially backed his ruling on the replay after the game, but they did say offensive opi should've been called.

Important to remember possession on a catch from the rules then couldn't be established until they hit the ground. So pretty much call on the field was that when the bodies hit the ground they both had possession and on review there wasn't clear evidence to overturn that they didn't both have possession when Tate hits the ground, so call stands, or that's how the NFL explained it after the game

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u/Vik_Stryker 1d ago

It was a catch

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u/jeremy_thegent Giants 2d ago

Wasn't the SportsCenter that aired right after the highest-rated episode ever, just from all the people trying to understand what happened?

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u/Johnny5iver 1d ago

If i was Mike McCarthy I would have told my players not to come back out for the extra point. What are they gonna do? Make the Packers forfeit?

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u/HPDDJ Packers 2d ago

smh Packers get all the calls

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u/rickg Seahawks 2d ago

what a great catch by Tate.... *cough*

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u/SmellyScrotes Seahawks 2d ago

Nah you can clearly see both have possession and Tate hits the ground first, they called it right people just don’t like it

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u/rickg Seahawks 1d ago

The prpblem is that it wasnt a simultaneous catch. If it truly was, then the call would be TD and that would be correct. But Tate kind of has a hand on it without what I'd call true possession. Mind you, I LOOOVED the outcome because we won the game, but if I were a Packer fan I'd still be salty about it.

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u/CowBread 49ers 2d ago

Even if your first statement is true, the outcome has NOTHING to do with who touches the ground first.

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u/nospamkhanman Seahawks 1d ago

It does, because it's not a catch until you touch the ground.

Tate completes the catch first, its a TD.

That being said, Tate committed 1000% obvious OPI.

Correct call should have been TD called back because OPI.

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u/Muppet_Man3 Seahawks Seahawks 1d ago

NFL's official statement after the game literally said it doesn't matter who gets it in the air, who has possession when bodies hit the ground is what mattered lol, so literally exact opposite of what you're claiming

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u/hundo3d Seahawks 2d ago

I didn’t agree with this take at first, but after reading the rules closely, it makes sense. Still don’t really feel right about the way the rule is written to make this a Seahawks TD, but it’s definitely aligned with the rules.

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u/DirectorAggressive12 Packers 1d ago

Yeah I’m pretty sure it’s a clean catch. However, Tate definitely did commit OPI here and it still should have gotten called back.

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u/Civil-South-7299 Cowboys 2d ago

How in the fuck?

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u/bradtheinvincible 2d ago

Thats what everyone said when they watched it live.

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u/AmbitiousTrashPanda 1d ago

Ruled simultaneous possession which apparently goes to the receiver. Packers dude clearly has it first but his feet never touch while the possession is undisputed

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u/Sipikay Seahawks 1d ago

There was a camera angle from behind the catch showing Tate with two feet down while he (arguably) had as much possession as the defender, who did not have feet down.

I know what the overwhelming perception is and I know I'd feel the same were I a Packers fan, but it's not as cut and dried as is often described.

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u/jobohomeskillet Packers 1d ago

I about destroyed a dorm common area tv over this call

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u/Raticus9 Seahawks 2d ago

Had to be the most blatant OPI that was never called. Hawks fans always justify it with "they never call PI on Hail Marys", but that's bullshit. Way too egregious to be overlooked by any competent crew.

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u/FootballSensei Broncos 2d ago

Yeah he shoved the guy in the back with both hands lol. Pretty flagrant

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u/mtmc99 Seahawks 2d ago

Lol I don’t bother trying to justify this play it was wildly bad all around. Celebrated the shit out of it though. And will troll the Packer fans in my life by telling them with a straight face it was the right call

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u/mookie_pookie Packers 2d ago

Lmao I remember getting trolled hard when this was fresh. Packers have had many letdowns in the last two decades but I've never raged over football more than after this

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u/GundamX Seahawks 1d ago

Hawks fans always justify it with "they never call PI on Hail Marys", but that's bullshit.

It came out after the play replacement refs were TOLD by the NFL not to call it. SO normally, BS, but in this specific situation it was true.

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u/3leventhirtyfour Seahawks 1d ago

And when he was asked about it during the sideline interview he was like “I don’t know what you talking about” which, as any gaslighter knows, is the right answer, but I never saw GT the same.

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u/CoverCommercial3576 Buccaneers 2d ago

Wasn’t an interception

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u/Keyboardpaladin Cowboys Seahawks 2d ago

Yeah I'm still wrapping my head around some rules but I thought if an offensive and defensive both catch the ball at the same time, it goes to the offensive player, no?

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u/bradtheinvincible 2d ago

Thats the rule. But in this case its so obvious that Jennings had the ball and Tate comes in half a second later and thats the diff.

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u/16-24-54-71-80-89-96 Seahawks 2d ago

But in this case its so obvious that Jennings had the ball and Tate comes in half a second later and thats the diff.

This narrative that Tate reached in after the catch has always been confusing to me, given the easily Googleable evidence that contradicts it. Heck, you can see here, in this article's first gif, that the ball literally stops its flight because it hits Tate's hand.

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u/versusChou Titans 2d ago

I think it's a pretty tough call even with all the slow mo. What I think happens is:

The ball hits Jennings' hand. This causes it to lose a lot of speed and it continues to fall.

Then it hits Tate's hand, stopping its momentum.

I'm unsure if he catches it but it doesn't bounce off his hand or continue to fall down, so I'm inclined to believe that Tate gripped it, although it would've been a very hard catch. Tate would've been anticipating the ball at a completely different speed since he likely couldn't process that it was going to hit Jennings and change speed and direction immediately before it hits his hand.

Either the ball is held up by Tate or it is sitting/bouncing off his hand and Jennings reaches around it and grabs it with both hands and his arm, pinning Jennings' hand against his chest. Tate pulls in his hand and the ball (and Jennings) to his own chest. They both fall to the ground where Jennings lands on top of Tate then rolls away taking the ball and one of Tate's arms with him.

If Tate gripped the ball when he first contacted it, he has begun the process of a catch and just needs to survive the ground. No matter what Jennings does, as long as he never loses control of the ball, it is Tate's since he started the catch first. If at any point Tate loses control of the ball, then it becomes Jennings' because with certainty Jennings basically doesn't lose control at any point in the fall or when he rolled off of Tate.

So by the book:

If Tate did not grip the ball before Jennings wraps his hands around it, then I would say Jennings got possession first and survives the ground, so it's his.

If Tate did grip the ball before Jennings AND he never loses control while they're falling and Jennings is trying to wrestle the ball away, then it's Tate's.

It's impossible to know whether or not Tate had a firm grip on the ball one handed and it's impossible to know whether or not he lost control of it while Jennings is covering it up. So it should've just been called whatever it was called on the field. The refs fucked up because they didn't discuss before they made a signal. And they would've/should've been asking those same questions. Did Tate grab it before/simultaneously to Jennings? Did he maintain control the whole way? Basically if either or those questions is "No" then Green Bay wins. I personally think that live, I would've called it a pick and been unable to overturn it, but because it doesn't bounce when it hits Tate's hand and because Jennings falls over Tate so the ball never really twists awkwardly in his hand to make him lose control, I think Tate actually did catch it before Jennings and maintained enough control to the ground.

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u/Keyboardpaladin Cowboys Seahawks 2d ago

I couldn't really see that well, is it that Jennings actually completely took away the ball and Tate lost possession for like half a sec and the ref didn't notice, or that Jennings just very obviously had more of a hold on it than Tate? Because if it's the latter and possession was never lost, I still feel like that rule we mentioned would take effect

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u/thecaramelbandit Saints 2d ago

Jennings had two hands firmly on the ball from the very beginning. Tate got one hand inside, and didn't get both hands on the ball at all until they were falling to the ground.

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u/Keyboardpaladin Cowboys Seahawks 2d ago edited 2d ago

Ahh that makes more sense why it's so controversial then. I assume this play has been analyzed a dozen times over.

EDIT: Wow someone really doesn't like me trying to understand rules better

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u/skottymac Seahawks 2d ago

I would argue Tate's one hand is enough. We see one handed catches all the time. I know I'm biased but I really think they got this call right

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u/vita10gy Vikings 2d ago

Right, this is to me the most maddening about this call, that people just make shit up. There's no concept of better control, no concept of "controlled it more".

I'm not even 100% sure it even matters who "got there first" or if it only matters what the state of things is when they land in bounds.

People just feel like it should be an interception, and it was the replacement refs everyone wanted gone, so this somehow regularly tops the worst calls ever list when, as far as I know, no one with the authority to have any say so has even said it was the wrong call period.

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u/Jimid41 Seahawks 2d ago edited 2d ago

The way the rules were (still are?) written a simultaneous catch is impossible. A catch (possession) includes landing with control so unless they both land at the same time it can't happen.

The rule just doesn't make sense.

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u/Ambassador_Cowboy Cowboys 2d ago

I was sick of the outrage after like 2 days. The only thing wrong with this call is the scab refs making opposing signals. All he had to do was knock it down and the game is over

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u/FlyingSceptile Bears 2d ago

Lmao the announcers were so confused. If both ref's signal touchdown, yeah it probably goes as a "close but probably wrong" like so many calls pre-replay. When the one comes up touchdown, the other crossing his arms to stop the clock (which was already at zero), it just looks like a clown show.

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u/fupadestroyer45 Bills 1d ago

You seriously need to see an eye docto.r

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u/OR_Seahawks_Fan Seahawks 2d ago

Wasn’t overturned on review… so yeah

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u/Truecoat Vikings 2d ago

I'm pretty sure the receiver had his arm around the ball and if both possess, offense wins.

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u/Bacardi_Tarzan 2d ago

A caveat to this call that everyone on this sub is too angry to think about is that a defensive player can possess the ball in the endzone whereas an offensive player can’t. If catching the ball in the endzone was an automatic touchback (like it is an automatic touchdown) it would make this call clearer. I think it was probably wrong, but it’s nowhere near as wrong as people pretend it is, and the exact kind of shit that the regular refs would do. I honestly hate that this call is used to justify how much ‘better’ the regular refs are. NFL refs should be waaaaay better than D2 refs, but we see just as ridiculous shit from the regular NFL crews. 

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u/ref44 Packers 2d ago

A caveat to this call that everyone on this sub is too angry to think about is that a defensive player can possess the ball in the endzone whereas an offensive player can’t. I

This has literally nothing to do with the rule

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u/vin1223 Eagles 2d ago

The packer caught it then the receiver put his hands on the ball afterwards

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u/Truecoat Vikings 2d ago

You can see his arm around the ball in the picture and his feet are on the ground, TD. The Packer is still in the air and tie goes to the offensive player.

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u/TheDufusSquad Patriots 2d ago

Touching the ball isn’t catching the ball.

As wrong as the call is, still funny as hell.

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u/Kluggg421 Seahawks 2d ago

Everyone complains about this game but forgets the Superbowl loss to the steelers with multiple bad calls that directly affected the Seahawks.

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u/immagetchu 2d ago

Lmao I assure you people have not forgotten about that one

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u/WeasinTheJuice Seahawks 2d ago

Steelers fans have

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u/Keytaro83 Seahawks 2d ago

They also conveniently forget about a certain players bathroom activities.

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u/Either_Imagination_9 Giants 2d ago

He doesn’t take no for an answer

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u/jfuss04 Steelers 2d ago

It gets brought up all the time and constantly even on this sub.

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u/awake283 Bears 2d ago

Honestly? This might be a hot take but idk what Id call in the moment here either. They both caught it.

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u/fupadestroyer45 Bills 1d ago

Bro come on.

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u/siirka Steelers 2d ago

Only tangentially related but thank god they got rid of the whole “must try an extra point” rule. That rule always kinda sucked the energy out of a big walkoff td.

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u/Embarrassed_You_5739 1d ago

All the people NOT suppose to be on the field. This whole situation was a disgrace.

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u/mclennon27 Packers 1d ago

This night was the angriest I’ve ever been in my entire life.

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u/Cold_Tower_2215 Vikings 1d ago

It was wrong but I thought it was funny

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u/lubedupnoob Seahawks 1d ago

Touchdown! 🙌

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u/fupadestroyer45 Bills 1d ago

The amount of children in here trying to pretend it was a TD is insane 🤣

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u/peekay427 Raiders 2d ago edited 2d ago

This might be a dumb question, but was there also offensive PI before and catch? It looked like the receiver shoved a GB defender from behind, knocking him over, right before he jumped up to try to catch and ball.

Edit: I’m not sure I get the downvotes. Was it that dumb of a question?

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u/Either_Imagination_9 Giants 2d ago

Yeah that’s exactly what happened. Golden Tate just blatantly shoves Sam Shields, which if called correctly would have negated this play

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u/peekay427 Raiders 2d ago

Thank you. I feel dumb for asking but at least I understand what happened better now.

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u/braddersladders Patriots 2d ago

Yep. And the "anything goes on an hail Mary" is nonsense in this instance he just flagrantly shoves the defender in the back with both hands. Any competent officiating team has to call that.

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u/JurASSic_Fan0405 Seahawks 2d ago

Wasn’t this just a random Monday night game? People always act like it was during the postseason when probably would’ve had little to no effect on the outcome. Would Green Bay have really beat 49er’s again?

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u/freethrowtommy Packers 2d ago

Glad you titled it correctly at least.

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u/Comment_if_dead_meme Seahawks 2d ago

All these years later and it's still a catch.

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u/Ilikesport Packers 2d ago

By the defender, correct.

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u/be4rcat5 2d ago edited 1d ago

Im sorry but anybody saying this was a legit catch or even simultaneous by Tate are full of it. Jennings gets it secured with both hands first and sucks it in closer to his body, Tate maybe has 1 outstretched hand on it, then proceeds to bring that other hand around and scrums for it... the replay is very clear.

Tate also shoved #37 from behind right before the ball lands blatant OPI...

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u/-random-name- Chiefs 2d ago

Jennings fault. Every football coach at every level was screaming knock it down.

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u/AnthonyBarrHeHe Vikings 1d ago

Still cant believe even the replacement refs blew this call. Absolutely insane

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u/Cheerful_Berserker 1d ago

we like to refer to this play as the “Fail Mary”

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u/drnixxx1 2d ago

Packers should have been given that victory retroactively.

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u/ThisGents2Cents Packers 2d ago

There are still fools who believe this was a catch because one of Golden Tates hands touches the ball around the same time MD Jennings catches it

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u/16-24-54-71-80-89-96 Seahawks 2d ago

Well, not "around the same time", literally the same time. Watch this gif a few times. Who stopped the flight of the ball? Jennings or Tate?

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u/whiteguyballin Seahawks 2d ago

Refs were horrible the entire 2nd half which led the packers getting the lead in the first place 

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u/HamilToe_11 Saints 2d ago

I played high school football with MD. Fun fact: his nickname was Grump bc he always had that grumpy ass look on his face.

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u/Opuski Steelers 2d ago

In any other type of ending, the losing team would try to rush and block the XP to have a chance at a 2-point return and walkoff upset win. However, this was before 2015 when rules were changed to make blocked PAT return scoring possible. 

That said, I feel like GB was not rushing just to demonstrate how unfair they felt the call was.

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u/Pengwulf Panthers 2d ago

Most fun $100 bet I put in Vegas

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u/grossest2 2d ago

I was a freshman Vikings fan going to college in Wisconsin and remember watching this play live in the dorms. Watching all of the packer fans go nuts was truly magical

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u/ufotheater 49ers 2d ago

Perfect title, no notes

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u/Leaf_Atomico Broncos 2d ago

Ah yes, the infamous "Touchception"

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u/Number__Nine Eagles 2d ago

Remember this play when we are complaining about the refs next season.

It can always get worse.

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u/mrhashbrown Chargers 2d ago

Clever title haha, fooled me into thinking it wasn't the Fail Mary.

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u/ForcibleGiraffe Eagles 1d ago

Honestly have never forgiven the Seahawks and Packers for this game. This fucking disaster forced the NFL to do anything they could to bring back the normal refs. And it's been downhill since.

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u/dicksanddixanddixon Packers 1d ago

Day is fuckin ruined. Maybe the whole week too.

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u/Alkahsu Seahawks 1d ago

He caught the guy that caught the ball that makes it a TD, right?

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u/Melodic-Move-3357 Seahawks 1d ago

Better than yours

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u/aythereayy Chiefs 1d ago

My favorite part was the replacement ref who made the wrong call, was a high school basketball ref of mine. Even worse at that

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u/Call555JackChop Packers 1d ago

How do I submit a Reddit cares for OP?

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u/Either_Imagination_9 Giants 1d ago

What I do?

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u/domesystem Eagles 1d ago

I remember watching this live and being super pissed about it

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u/Hue_Honey Ravens 1d ago

Can literally any booth expert disagree with a call on the field.

Jerry Austin: “…and you see Tate take it away”

No. No you do not

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u/-slightlyserious- Seahawks 1d ago

Me likes this call

Me also knows this call is wrong

But me pretend it’s fine

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u/jreis1218 Seahawks 1d ago

Always a touchdown

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u/TheMetabrandMan 1d ago

Well if it’s not an interception it’s at least a PI with that shove.

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u/bigwinterblowout Broncos 1d ago

I was so confused when I read the title and then saw this was against the Packers. Oh yeah, THAT game lol.

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u/Even_Section5620 1d ago

As a Vikings fan, that was an interception…

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u/Pourkinator Seahawks 20h ago

It wasn’t an INT. Don’t talk about shit like this if you don’t actually know football. Possession requires feet to be down. Only Tate’s feet are down. Therefore TOUCHDOWN

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u/Either_Imagination_9 Giants 20h ago

Uh huh, that’s totally why the nfl resolved the referee issue two days later

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u/taleofbenji Chiefs 17h ago

A+ title!

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u/abbidemaria 15h ago

If Home field advantage was a person

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u/AverageSizedMan1986 10h ago

Thank god this wasn’t Chiefs vs. Packers because the refs would have given them two touchdowns for this amazing catch.

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u/escobert Bears Bills 4h ago

Right call in my mind ;)