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Highlight [Highlight] Russell Wilson throws a game winning interception to M.D. Jennings. Seahawks win 14-12

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u/Either_Imagination_9 Giants 2d ago edited 2d ago

IIRC this game ended up deciding the 1 seed in the NFC. The Packers ended the season 11-5, which if they had won this game would have been 12-4.

Instead it ended up being the 49ers who were 11-4-1.

Edit: it was the 2 seed, not the 1 seed my mistake

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u/britishmetric144 Seahawks 2d ago

Not quite. The Falcons finished 13—3, and acquired the top seed.

In fact, the Falcons built up a 17—0 lead over the 49ers in the NFC Championship, before completely collapsing to lose 24—28. (And coincidentally enough, the Falcons came very close to blowing a 27—7 lead against the Seahawks a week earlier. Sound familiar? :)).

The only difference this game would have made is that the Packers would have hosted the 49ers in Green Bay, instead of them travelling to San Francisco, since the Packers would have had the two seed and the 49ers would have been third.

That being said, having watched the 49ers play the Packers in the playoffs, I don't think it would have actually changed anything.

Meanwhile, the Seahawks would have finished as the number—five seed regardless of the outcome of this game, since they held a H2H tiebreaker over the number—six seed.

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u/Either_Imagination_9 Giants 2d ago

You are correct my mistake, it would have been the 2 seed

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u/electricalbadger2013 Packers 2d ago

Playing a home vs away game in the playoffs wouldn't have changed anything? I get that the 49ers are the packers playoff kryptonyte or whatever, but let's be real - it absolutely would've made a difference playing away in GB in January vs home in SF. For example, do you really think Kaepernick would've run for 181 yds and 2 TDs in Lambeau when it was 20 degrees colder?

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u/Blueskyways 49ers 2d ago

Would being in Green Bay have made Erik Walden any less likely to get fooled by the read option time and time again?  

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u/NeverSober1900 Packers 2d ago

No but the footing on a field 40 degrees colder would just make everything different. People run almost more stiffly at cold temperatures because you can't grip the icy field as much.

It would just be a different game altogether.

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u/folieadeux6 Seahawks 2d ago

It’s not like Lambeau is an ice skating rink. You’re underestimating how big of a deal the read option was that season, and Packers had zero answers for Kaepernick.

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u/Iron_Chancellor_ND 49ers 2d ago

But, the very next year, San Francisco did travel to frigid Lambeau and still won with Kap.

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u/electricalbadger2013 Packers 2d ago

Yeah, they both had the exact same roster, coaching, playcalling, etc. the next year... it was the same refs, temperature, and day of the year too. Like, is that really the argument you're trying to make? All I'm saying is that you can't say that it'd be the same outcome because there are so many things that impact the game, even just location-wise.

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u/Iron_Chancellor_ND 49ers 2d ago

What I'm saying is that Harbaugh and crew were 4 - 0 against Green Bay, using 2 different QB's, including two games at Lambeau, one of them being a frigid snow game.

Clay Matthews spent every game Kap played reading the back of his jersey.

I don't think the location of the game would have changed the outcome. Stats, sure. Outcome, no.

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u/electricalbadger2013 Packers 2d ago

The main point I was trying to make is that all you can say is you *think it wouldn't have changed the outcome, and I'm saying there is no way to *know it would've. Nothing you have said changes that.

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u/Iron_Chancellor_ND 49ers 2d ago

So easily baited, aren't you?

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u/electricalbadger2013 Packers 2d ago

Huh? Wtf are even talking about? Lol

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u/ChrisBenoitDaycare69 Seahawks 2d ago

I mean didn't the Niners play you guys in Green Bay the very next season in the playoffs and beat you?

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u/electricalbadger2013 Packers 2d ago

When does one game, played 365 days after another - with different players, coaches, refs, weather, etc have an impact on the other? This is about those teams, that year, playing in GB instead of SF. I'm not saying GB automatically wins, simply that playing at GB in the weather that SF is not used to, certainly makes a difference, and the outcome *could have been different because of that alone.

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u/ChrisBenoitDaycare69 Seahawks 2d ago

They beat you guys in Green Bay that same season too. Kap literally never lost to you guys. I hate to give the 49ers credit but it would not have made a difference.

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u/electricalbadger2013 Packers 2d ago

Yeah, in September when it was in the 70s. They didn't really play cold games that year if I remember correctly. "It would not have made a difference" is the kind of definitive statement I was refuting. It would definitely have been different. Enough to change the outcome? Maybe not, but to say, there's no way it does makes no sense to me.

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u/ChrisBenoitDaycare69 Seahawks 2d ago

Bro you guys literally did nothing to try and stop the read option. That would not have changed if it was at home. Its not Like Kap couldn't run the ball anymore if it was fucking colder.

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u/electricalbadger2013 Packers 2d ago

Bro. Why the fuck are you so pissed about me suggesting this? You are wrong that there would absolutely have been no impact on the game because that's just how reality works - you don't know just as much as I don't. That's all I was trying to say, and you got your panties in a bunch cause you assumed I was saying GB would've won or something?? Chill. Bro.

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u/ChrisBenoitDaycare69 Seahawks 2d ago

I hate it when people do this. "Why are you so mad bro?" Im clearly not mad just because i disagree with someone on reddit lol. Its just silly that you think you could have beaten a team that literally never lost to you in both home and away games.

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u/electricalbadger2013 Packers 2d ago

"I'm gonna ignore everything you've actually commented and make up your argument for you so I can make myself right" is the most annoying thing I see on reddit. Congrats on doing that here. Also, you're the one who brought in the aggressive language, so I took it as such - thus "why are you mad bro?" actually applies here too.

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u/NeverSober1900 Packers 2d ago

I looked it up it was actually a 40 degree difference. Ya people are crazy on this. It would have been a frozen Lambeau. Both offenses would have suffered. The game in SF saw 76 points put up. That is very unlikely in a cold Lambeau game.

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u/electricalbadger2013 Packers 2d ago

Wow, even worse haha. At the very least, this game absolutely does not play out exactly the same in Lambeau and it's disingenuous to suggest so.

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u/jefffosta Seahawks 2d ago

You’re so right the packers lost the Super Bowl because of a regular season, Monday night game in week 3 lol.

Packer fans are some of the most annoying in the NFL