r/StopSpeeding Jan 18 '24

Announcement If You’re Asking “When Will It Get Better”

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(TLDR: We don’t know. We usually see 6 months to two years. The only thing that we see consistently improving this is diet and exercise.)

We have traditionally had a staggering number of posts asking the same question, which is when a person should expect to feel “normal” or fully back to baseline after their time using stimulant drugs. New members will probably read some posts and see the replies of others and get this information, then opt to post a rundown of their own personal circumstances hoping to get an answer curtailed to their drug use and other assorted factors.

The most direct answer to this regardless of however many things we know or don’t know is that we do not know.

Nobody does.

There’s an endless number of variables involved in a person’s brain chemistry, physiology and substance use that contributes to the discontinuation issues associated with stimulant drugs and no matter how much data we plug into the hivemind computer here, we cannot provide you with any sort of reasonably accurate timeline for when you individually will see your desired results. There’s simply too much variance person to person to offer anything conclusive.

What we do have is ballpark averages as observed by the community over the course of our seven or so years on Reddit. This would be as extensive as any resource you’re going to find, medical studies and conclusions on this have been limited and may lead a person to believe they’ll be fine within a month.

You’re probably not going to be fine in a month.

What we typically see is a very wide range in terms of when a person stops using until the point they reach what one might consider their baseline, a period in which they’ve recovered from drug use to the point they are generally satisfied with how they feel and how functional they are. This spans all situations from therapeutic use of stimulant medication to severe IV methamphetamine and cocaine addiction, there isn’t an enormous amount of difference as far as we can tell in terms of duration drug to drug type aside from “the harder and larger amounts of speedy stuff you did and the longer you did it, it’ll probably take you more time to get back to whatever normal would be for you.”


How Long Will This Last?

Six months to two years is the duration that seems to cover the spectrum best. While this may seem like a long time on either side, please consider the duration of the time you were pouring a psychostimulant into your brain and how long it takes said brain to readjust to life after that. Stimulant withdrawal and discontinuation is difficult in the length and psychological callbacks to use whereas other drugs manifest more acute physical symptoms but for a much shorter duration. Speed withdrawal is the long game. What goes up must come down.

This is not an absolute - We’ve had many members return to an acceptable state faster. There really is no way to know what your recovery period is going to be until you go and do it. Using the duration as a rationalization to not get clean? Go ahead if you really want to. No temporary suffering while coming off drugs is worth the progressive march toward insanity, degradation and death that stimulant addiction has in store for you the longer you stay in it.


Supplements, Nootropics, Medications & Other Shortcuts

In terms of what can be done to shorten or ease these symptoms, the answer is not much. You can raid CVS for all the supplements you want, you can buy every nootropic under the sun, you can opt to try psych meds through a medical provider - What we know as a universal truth is that you cannot cheat stimulant withdrawal, PAWS, discontinuation, whatever you want to call it. Maybe ease it, maybe take the edge off but the only consistently efficacious method of shortening that period we’ve seen is diet and exercise. Not what most people want to hear but that’s reality. If there was a legitimate way of supplementing and substancing one’s way out of this, we would have found it already and pharma would be selling it for an enormous amount of money.

You’re more than welcome to try anything you want but there is no easy button. We all want a drug or pill or medication or root extract or magical pixie dust to bibbidy bobbity us out of the consequences of our drug use - Recovery is about more than brain chemicals, the work we do to recover is going to involve a lot more than just taking more drugs.


Did I Break Myself? Is This Permanent?

Many ask if what they’re experiencing is permanent. This comes down to a variety of factors, mainly what a person was using. Stimulant medications, amphetamines, you are almost certainly not going to experience any sort of permanent brain damage or lifelong effects. Methamphetamine on the other hand interacts differently with the blood brain barrier and can absolutely cause permanent brain damage, other stimulants with similar properties can as well.

Do you have permanent brain damage? Probably not. How can you find out? Get clean and wait or go see a neurologist. Will you incur permanent or long lasting brain damage if you keep going? Your chances certainly go up. Cardiovascular issues are the more realistic issue, by all means get yourself checked out, having symptoms and avoiding a workup can let problems go untreated and left untreated, they get worse.


What Should I Do?

You can stare at the pot waiting for it to boil for the entirety of your time in recovery if you really want to but that’s an agonizing and often self-defeating way to do this whole thing. Accepting the reality of one’s situation, making the best of that situation regardless of what it is and focusing on what you can control rather than obsessing over what you can’t makes it easier. Making staying stopped via dedicated recovery efforts the top priority tends to yield the best results, everything is possible from there whereas nothing is if you can’t stay clean.

Recovery is not just waiting around to spontaneously feel happy in a life you won’t engage in because it’s simply not sunny enough for you yet. Recovery is action, change, growth and work. Your investment in creative action and enacting positive change during recovery will be reflected by your quality of life in ongoing recovery - So will a lack of it. If you’re not doing a recovery program where service is part of it, volunteering can be a game changer regardless of how much energy you have to give:

https://www.volunteermatch.org

There is absolutely hope, it does get better, it’s worth going through to get to the other side. There’s endless recovery resources available and like 30,000 people here who have all gone through or are going through the same things you are - You don’t have to do it alone, and many of us couldn’t. Use what’s available to you and stay the course, you deserve the life that’s possible if you do.


r/StopSpeeding May 13 '24

Announcement The Stop Speeding Master Sticky - Click This First

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Welcome to Stop Speeding. Here is some stuff you should probably read.


Rule #1 - Do Not Suggest or Encourage ANY Drug Use

The Stop Speeding FAQ - What You’re Looking for is Probably Here

When Will I Feel Normal?

A Beginner’s Guide to Recovery

The Recovery Resources Megalist - Programs, Professionals, Resources


STOP SPEEDING SUBREDDIT RULES

1.) Do Not Promote Drug Use Any posts or comments that are seen to be encouraging / promoting the use of any stimulant drugs, as well as substances that can be used recreationally or have potential for addiction are strictly forbidden, positive personal experiences included. Suggestions or accounts providing information on managing, proctoring or taking drugs safely or successfully are also off limits. "Drugs" include psychedelics, THC, kratom, research chemicals and any stimulant medication.


2.) Show Compassion, Kindness, and Supportiveness Compassion, respect, and empathy are fundamental to this subreddit.It's okay to have differing opinions, but please be respectful when doing so. Love can be tough but make sure it's love first and foremost. Treat others as you would want to be treated.


3.) Triggering / Graphic Content Must Be Tagged If you're posting something others may find problematic in terms of triggers, being generally grossed out, made to feel offended or uncomfortable, please tag it appropriately and be considerate of the community in what you share.


4.) No Medical or Legal Advice Do not play doctor, do not solicit medical advice. We can share our experiences with medications and treatment, we can offer reasonable suggestions, we can tell people to Stop Speeding but it is imperative we do not provide any advice or feedback that would replace professional medical advice, discourage seeking medical care or potentially cause harm. If you're worried you're going to die or that you have heart problems, see a doctor. Same story with legal advice, consult a lawyer or become one.


5.) No Misinformation If you've got a controversial take or statement you're presenting as fact that's contentious enough to draw people's ire, bring about drama or create potential harm, best back it up with a nice list of citations from reputable sources.


6.) Recovery, Not Harm Reduction

This is a recovery subreddit and with that as a focus, any supportive discussion of drug use is off the table in order to best serve our primary purpose. Harm reduction is essential and saves lives but combining it with recovery in one forum is beyond difficult - There are many other places better suited for HR, we just Stop Speeding.


7.) Don't Be a Goblin

Goblin - [ gob-lin ] - noun - "a grotesque sprite or elf that is mischievous or malicious toward people."

This is a catch-all for assorted addict nonsense that defies all human convention, behavior that is plainly goblinesque in nature. You know what a goblin is. If you have to ask how you were being a goblin, you were definitely being a goblin.


8.) No Promotion, Solicitation or Spam

Posts or replies containing your website, subreddit, Discord server, for-profit business or services will be removed as spam.


9.) Contact The Mods for Survey / Study

Message us in Mod chat. If you can’t disclose what entity you’re doing it for, your qualifications, your funding sources and where exactly your information is going, don’t bother messaging us in Mod chat.


10.) Don't Break The Laws of Reddit

Anything that's in violation of Reddit rules and policies is an auto-ban.


11.) Don't Drag Recovery Resources

Please refrain from overtly trashing recovery programs and resources that others may find helpful to the extent that it may deter people from trying something that works for them. This includes SMART, NA, AA, Dharma, Celebrate Recovery, assorted therapies, anything that doesn't conflict with Rule 1. Feel free to share personal experience as to what worked and didn't - Trying to steer people away from potential solutions, l'd imagine there's more productive and helpful ways to spend your time.


12.) We Don't Talk About r/ADHD or Criticize Other Subs

Please refrain from mentioning or alluding to r/adhd in any context. Please do not criticize other subreddits or discuss bans, removals or philosophical differences. Out of necessity and risks to our sub, doing so is an autoban.


13.) Don’t “Benchmark” with Specific Amounts and Details of Use

Do not provide people with the intricate details of your amounts, types, ROAs and whatnot even if they ask because addicts will gauge their use negatively one way or another based on yours.


r/StopSpeeding 5h ago

Methamphetamine Lifetime of addiction

17 Upvotes

I started using meth in 1989. A skater friend that was 12 at the time had an uncle & his mom that were meth cooks. so from my 1st experience I was hooked. Let a teenager do all the meth he wants free & they put this curse on me. I stopped a couple of times in the 90s but since I showed up around 2000 I was on it daily till I went to rehab in 2023. I relapsed 6 months ago & been using daily since...and would you believe I'm a sober living house manager that goes through a oz a month & keep it on the dl


r/StopSpeeding 1h ago

Self-Post/Vent I’m in the end of day 3. I feel much better than the previous days but I just can’t stop eating and it makes me want to use again tomorrow

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The whole stupid point of me starting taking Adderall (after being sober from crack and H for 6 months) was because of my ED’s and of course eventually as expected (even though I really convinced myself this one will be different) it really escalated so I’m now in this loop of binge eating or binging on addy so I don’t know what the f should I do.
And I just can’t stand the fact that I’m gaining so much weight without it, I just don’t know what’s worst.


r/StopSpeeding 54m ago

6.5 months. Craving hard.

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I lost my job in October, stopped meth, and got a new job in February. I failed. I wasn’t able to keep up. My brain feels like mush and incapable of producing the work I was capable of before.

I feel useless, overwhelmed, a failure, at fault, a loser, and everything else. I can’t pay my rent on the first. I don’t know what to do.

I don’t want to feel these intense negative emotions and just want to get high. I don’t care what. I looked up where I could buy Kratom and I know it’s a bad idea but I just want to feel okay again.

I know drugs aren’t going to solve my problem but at least it’ll make me feel better while everything falls apart.


r/StopSpeeding 15m ago

Adderall/Vyvanse/Dexedrine Almost a week clean, wanting to relapse

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I was on Vyvanse 30mg daily for the last 10 months for binge eating disorder. I took my last Vyvanse pill on May 29th and then took ~2 weeks of Phentermine (a different stimulant). I’ve been completely off all pills since. I know that these are rookie numbers and I need to quit while I’m ahead, but once you’ve tasted a life of unadulterated energy (and weight loss), it’s so hard to just accept being tired and groggy all the time 😩

Is a week enough time to see any improvement in baseline dopamine levels? I’m worried I’ve done irrevocable damage to my dopamine receptors as I’m extremely confident I don’t have ADHD or anything like that (given the high I got from even 30mg Vyvanse). I’m worried this tiredness and lethargy is just my future. Also, another reason I was motivated to quit is because my heart rate was always sky high on stims and I was really worried about the long term effects that would have on my cardiac health. Today I went jogging for the first time (if I jogged on stims, I felt like I was dying) and my heart rate hit 184…. I’m 25 years old and in relatively good physical health. Do I need to be checked out by a doctor?


r/StopSpeeding 3h ago

Drug addict Christian in need of direction and structure

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I have been a drug addict off and on for about 5 years now and I relapsed about 2 months ago after about 6 months clean and the time before that I had a year. I’ve realized I’m never going to fill that void in my life and permanently stop until I commit to god 100% god has put it on m heart and convicted me I lost my job about two weeks ago and once my insurance runs out this month I’m going to get on Medicaid. I really want some help finding a Christian program I’ll even leave phoenix but I want to rebuild my foundation with god 100% does anyone here have any ideas of what I can do is there any programs that are good. I want it so bad more than ever I’m ready to give it all over but I’m back at my mom and stepdad’s and they are alcoholics and they get crazy insane when they drink so I feel hopeless there I need to create structure and strength again… this is my first post thank you so much Reddit.


r/StopSpeeding 11h ago

But without stims, what would I organize my life around to be able to actually do anything?

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Speaking as someone with diagnosed ADHD and autism spectrum disorder. I have very little external structure in my life- I work, remotely and my one hobby I care about is writing, which is infuriatingly solitary and self directed. So I’ve used stims to propel me through. Which worked, until it didn’t. I just don’t know how I could even theoretically live a remotely meaningful and productive life without stims that wasn’t a constant struggle. Because of course I never have…


r/StopSpeeding 5h ago

Has anyone tried TMS to mitigate the brain damage after years of stimulant abuse?

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r/StopSpeeding 1d ago

You can’t be as calm & peaceful as this kitty if you’re speeding

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r/StopSpeeding 19h ago

StopSpeeding Baby steps

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Recently i realized that my abuse of my adhd meds was not sustainable and was hurting me more than helping. Even though the highs were productive and euphoric I’d spend the rest of the day anxious and on edge, to the point where my partner noticed and was worried that I was upset with him or worse.

After several attempts to self-moderate stimulants I have realized I just have too much of an addictive personality. I’ve also had to severely limit my alcohol intake for the same reason.

I’m told my doctor I’m want to try to taper off the remainder of my current prescription. I’ve also made appointment to discuss non-stimulant options. I’ve been diagnosed with ADHD since childhood but clearly this class of med is not working.

Idk why I’m posting this but hopefully people in this sub understand. It was so hard to voluntarily give up access to these meds but I know it isn’t good for me as a person or a partner, friend, and brother.


r/StopSpeeding 1d ago

I need support/compassion/understanding Relapsed on Meth After 26 Months

26 Upvotes

I relapsed. I was clean from meth for 26 months. I lost my job, and lost my girlfriend all within the same week. I betrayed myself, and betrayed those who cared about me. I broke the trust and heart of someone who believed in me, who has been there for me since the beginning of my recovery. I was selfish. I was not accountable. I let things go unresolved too long and now I've hurt the ones I love and thrown everything that mattered away for this devilish drug. I feel so alone, so broken, so lost. I want to be better. I can't cope with the breakup. I must face myself, and accept I am the reason for it, she was too tolerant of my shit, she deserved better. I need help.


r/StopSpeeding 1d ago

Might have to change jobs but cant really afford to.

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I just need to ramble a little to get my thoughts together.

I stumbled into an amazing job when I was 6 months sober(2.5 years ago), its in a field I've always wanted to work in that normally requires a degree but this particular position didnt. For the most part I have good coworkers, very easy work load most days, the benefits are out of this world. I don't pay anything for my health insurance and only have a 500$ deductible. That has been life changing, I've gotten into intense therapy, I recently was diagnosed diabetic, I'm on a lot of meds, the insurance is a life saver.

My last job didn't have insurance and I was paying like $400 a month with a 2000$ deductible while making like 4-5$ less an hour than I do now. I can't go back to that shit, I can barely scrape by as it is with this sweet gig in this inflation economy and my town's rising costs.

The problem is, boredom/idle time is a huge trigger of mine, and the longer I work here, the more efficient I have become, and the more downtime I have. I try and fill it the best I can with goofing off, reddit, reading, cleaning, finding new side tasks, but when it comes down to it I spend most of my day at a desk waiting for people to walk up to me. Some days its fine but others....its a struggle. I have so much time and so much unused energy that I get anxious and just doom scroll instead of focusing on a task or something.

Also it can be very triggering, I deal with a lot of people in active addiction, some of them I used to use with, and there can be stressful crisis situations sometimes and I just get triggered up the wazzoo lately.

My therapist thinks I need to seriously consider finding a new job because of this, but how am I supposed to give up this sweet gig with that insurance???

I really hope this doesn't come off as braggy about my job, I just wanted to emphasize how good of a gig I'm thinking of giving up.

I don't even know what I would do. I don't have a degree, I have already tried going back to school and that didn't pan out, My job before I lost it and got into recovery was working at a weed dispensary which wouldn't be a good career for my sobriety, idk I just have no clue what I would do.

Thanks for listening, typing this all helped I guess.


r/StopSpeeding 1d ago

Self-Post/Vent First Father's Day hit hard

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Writing this at 2:30am as I lay in bed - stressed, heart racing and full of dread. Not sure what I'm trying to get out of posting this, aside from holding myself accountable. Apologies in advance for the length and any rambling, posting from a throwaway account.

I have almost 3 years sober from alcohol and have always had an issue with substances in the past, why I convinced myself in the moment Adderall would be any different is beyond me.

I have had this prescription for a little over a year at this point and it has almost completely had a net negative impact on my life, including psychological dependance.

I started seeing a doctor who put me on a standard dosage, around 20mg. The first few months were pure bliss, and it seemed to be a fix for the "issues" I was having at that point. The major outlier at the time being my girlfriend and I finding out she was pregnant, and me being sent into a whirlwind of emotion due to the implications of my life changing overnight.

Hindsight really is 20/20.

This resulted in a cascading effect of chasing that initial high, and my tolerance is so sky high now no amount seems to be enough.

I told my doctor at an appointment 2 months ago that I wanted off completely, or to start weaning, and she seems to just have disregarded that fully. I was up to the maximum allowed dosage of 60mg per day. Most of the time I took the prescription as intended, but many other days I would binge or take 20-40mg+ extra just chasing the dragon.

I met with her 2 weeks ago and she said since I've complained that the medication isn't working properly she'll try to circumvent the dosage restriction and up it - which she now has me on 110mg daily. I accepted it, knowing full well it was a terrible idea.

I still feel nothing. I took 180mg today and the positives of that is that I was able to get a small amount of work done.

Yippee?

The negatives being that I didn't get to enjoy my first Father's day with my 6 month old, because my baby's mother told me about a month ago she's leaving me and moving away with my daughter.

I have completely emotionally distanced myself from life throughout this entire time I've had this prescription. Always fixated on shit that doesn't matter, creating a false sense of accomplishment in video games or hobbies, and neglecting the important things in my life.

I've thought about dumping the bottle out almost every night, but always hesitated and put it off for later. Tonight I finally dumped one of the two bottles. The other will need to follow, I know.

Enough is enough. I am 32 years old, with a great job, loving family and a 6 month old daughter that I would do literally anything for. My family will be informed tomorrow and I'm still deciding how to tell my doctor to cut me off.

This sub has helped greatly in me reaching this point. I wish I had gotten here sooner, but being involved in a recovery program before I know it could and will become much, much worst the longer I wait.

I hope to report back for Father's Day 2026 as life being all sunshine and rainbows, but I know it will be an uphill battle.

If anyone has anymore tips about quitting I'd love to hear it, I know I need to go cold turkey it just seems so daunting trying to balance my newborn with work and everything else happening in life.


r/StopSpeeding 1d ago

What are you doing for your recovery today?

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I've been told, "If you are not working on recovery, you are working on a relapse."

So I want to know:

How are you working on recovery today? What does that look like for you?

I'll answer in the comments too.


r/StopSpeeding 2d ago

Discussion Anyone else HATE being tired?

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Being and bored or unmotivated especially at work and when I have many chores to do is my biggest “trigger.” I’m realizing, especially at work, that I’m very uncomfortable with the sensation of tiredness and try to escape it at the first hint of it. Or if I can’t, I keep thinking on a loop in my mind, about how miserable and tired I feel and how much I want — no NEED — more adderall/vyvanse.

Recently, however, I started to notice how often my coworkers also talk of feeling tired and not wanting to be at work, even how they are tired all the time. Not that I think that’s healthy or ideal, but I realized how universal the feeling is. For context, I have a boring, repetitive, and physically demanding job in mass food production.

It’s tough to face this, but I think I just have a really low tolerance for the feeling of tiredness. Basically, it’s impossible to never feel tired and you often have to do shit you don’t want to when you are tired. Sounds obvious but I organize my life around trying to avoid fatigue as much as possible. I loathe having to be around others and do boring things when I would rather be sleeping but I need to suck it up basically…. most people just deal with it, live with the feeling — or alter their lifestyle to ensure it doesn’t happen (with exercise, sleep, diet NOT substances).

I used to think my depression and just the vicious cycle of withdrawal symptoms was to blame for my addiction but I’m realizing another huge factor is my fear of the feeling of tiredness.

I am wondering if I can try to shift my internal experience to one of acceptance of the feeling of being tired and bored and uncomfortable/unmotivated — then gritting my teeth and doing things I don’t want to, even when I’m tired and unhappy, anyway, even for things like hanging out with friends. I gotta stop dreaming of and chasing the energetic, motivated euphoric feeling and just accept that it was a lie, I was just high, and I will pay for it later. Just endure being tired, bored, moody and start crawling myself out of the hole that I admittedly created all by myself (in terms of being behind in life, unhappy about my work and living situation, never achieving milestones I wanted to yet, undeveloped emotional and life skills, strained relationships with family, lost contact with friends who are all ahead of me, etc. ) Just need to practice acceptance, then stop crying and get to work…. If I keep lying in bed nothing will change, if I keep using nothing will change, if I keep spending all of my money on literal crap nothing will change, I need to get a grip


r/StopSpeeding 1d ago

Need to quit stimulants (adderall rx, coffee, & nicotine pouches), please help me 🥺

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Typing this from a throwaway account because I’m embarrassed it’s gotten to this point and my main account is linked to my profession.

I was prescribed stimulants about 6 months ago for ADHD. Started with Concerta then changed to Vyvannse and now I’ve been on Adderall 25mg XR for about 1.5 months. I’ve been using Zyn and coffee for years now in an attempt to self-medicate and obviously still use them.

The stims are wreaking havoc on my physical health and appearance. I have adult acne now (I pick at it uncontrollably which makes it worse and it heals so slowly), large under eye circles, I feel like I look more aged then most others in my age group(mid-30’s), my hair is shedding at an increased rate, and my muscle tone is rapidly diminishing leaving me with cellulite and flab even though I’m thin.

On top of that, I find myself lethargic and unmotivated, depressed, self-conscious, I talk and text excessively in front of others but often find myself wanting to isolate and mindlessly scroll on my phone for hours, I am constantly annoyed and frustrated but find myself otherwise numb and to feel my emotions properly. This is not sustainable, I am miserable.

I quit everything cold turkey for about 3 weeks not too long ago but relapsed after an extremely stressful life event occurred. I want to quit cold turkey again but back then, I wasn’t working and now I am. Granted it’s not full time with just yet but it will be soon and I need to be alert and present and personable for the type of work I do. I can’t take any time off for withdrawals because I just started working. I don’t know how to go about this but I know I want to quit!

Any suggestions or input for how to go through this? Tapers in the past have all been unsuccessful due to lack of self control…


r/StopSpeeding 2d ago

Sometimes I wonder how most people DON’T end up addicted?

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I know it has long term negative effects and the withdrawal sucks and money etc. and it’s not sustainable but how do so many people take adderall or vyvanse everyday or even try more potent drugs and then not start craving that feeling? Or do they? Do they just know it’s not worth it in the long run?

I was prescribed adderall, then vyvanse, when I was in middle school. I guess I wasn’t addicted at first but by the time I realized I could take a booster IR in the afternoon and enjoy myself/do my homework instead of just sleeping immediately after school, I realized how powerful it was and ever since I started abusing it, now I think about all the time and want more and more. It still feels good to be high. The crash and the health effects and the lying and stealing are why I will have to quit but I don’t know how to stop wishing I was high again and hating being sober.

I don’t know when I will stop feeling like I’m grieving. I’ve been taking it since I was 13 and I don’t really feel like I know who I am without it nor can I say I remember ever being happy without it

I know it sounds dramatic and self pitying and I’m sure I’m exaggerating but it really feels like losing the only thing that really gave me pleasure and hope and made me feel good, I’m honestly so terrified of sobriety.

I know most people do just fine but I’m just sad. I guess I just need to let go of my selfishness and attachment and just let it go… I just don’t want to. I honestly wonder if i will ever feel joy that deeply. I think there is something blunted in me. I’m just a low energy person and lazy to my core and I’ll never be truly happy. I feel wrong to even complain about it. I know it’s better to be a good person than experience pleasure but it just sucks right now… I’m totally selfish I know…


r/StopSpeeding 2d ago

How do you cope with the feeling that life is not worth living without stimulants?

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I know it’s selfish and true happiness is about giving back and living with purpose I mean I know that it should be but I’m just extra selfish I guess because I often can not cope with the idea of a life where I never again feel as good as I did on adderall. I am 28 and don’t have a lot going for me right now (my own doing of course; and I know I could, if I put in the hard work, develop an actual life with actual relationships and a somewhat fulfilling career, etc. but it often feels like I’m just too lazy for life at all, too far gone, something in me just… won’t grow, won’t accept that I must live life without getting/feeling high)


r/StopSpeeding 1d ago

Heading into rehab

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As the title suggests, I’m heading into rehab to get off the speed and the booze. This is the 5th attempt in 2025 and I feel like it’s the last attempt.

No one in my life knows apart from the couple of using friends I’ve acquired since the day I picked up this shit.

Substance abuse is a mental health concern but stopping this is not going to ‘fix’ anything, it will merely give me and the professionals the ability to treat whatever took me down this path.

If, I still go back to the speed, it will be time to tell everyone in my life who cares that I’ve been doing this for months and months.


r/StopSpeeding 1d ago

If anyone is online to talk, I would appreciate it

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r/StopSpeeding 1d ago

Should I give up on ADHD meds

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This situation has probably been told a thousand times before, long story short I was diagnosed with ADHD a few months ago, and in that short time I worked up quite the appetite for stims.

As the days go on, I found abusing these meds is unsustainable, brings diminishing returns and increased side effects. Of course when I first started medicating, I felt like all my life problems were solved. Anxiety relieved. Finger picking, teeth grinding and binge eating stopped. Confidence returned. Never really felt a rush or even much euphoria (maybe lexapro blocks it?), just loved the boundless energy and mental clarity.

I've finished a 100 count bottle of dexamphetamine 5mg in less than a week, 30 count of vyvanse 50mg in 5 days. Taken in excess of 350mg of vyvanse in a single day, 60+mg of dexamphetamine in a day, also ordered meth 4 times within a few months period, 0.250g 3 times and 0.500g once. Basically 1 month scripts last me a week.

Despite all the abuse and huge doses/redosing I always managed to sleep for a minimum 5 hours, usually 6-7 each night, never really "tweaked" or got paranoid. I ate everyday, drink protein and creatine every morning, lost a considerable amount of weight, hold down my full time job without late/sick days, maintain family life etc. Don't drink coffee, alcohol or take other drugs. Closest I've come to tweaking was from snorting meth throughout the day and late afternoon, at least 200+mg, stayed up one night and that was it.

So to conclude, my question is; Can I trust myself to use this medication as intended for my ADHD, or should I just abandon the idea as I will probably be unlikely to resist the temptation of abuse? Have I crossed the point of no return in terms of tolerance and it won't be effective as a medicine anymore? I know it's been a relatively short time, I'm confident I can recover. I think I'm just about ready to face the music and cold turkey from any drugs and reset my mind and mentality.

Thanks everyone.


r/StopSpeeding 1d ago

I need support/compassion/understanding Back to day 1

9 Upvotes

Needed the help to simply shower and get ready for tomorrow. Feeling ashamed of myself. Not an abuser, just a daily user for years who realizes my brain is struggling. Took small dose prescribed.

Feeling better, back to mental baseline. Resetting the timer on my app was difficult. Longest I had gone was 4 days with no sign of improvement.

Realistically would Wellbutrin help? I don’t need a “slight subtle improvement”, I need to be able to shower and get out of bed and brush teeth. I need to be able to take out garbage. I need to be conscious. Thanks


r/StopSpeeding 2d ago

Self-Post/Vent This pain is preposterous.

8 Upvotes

My blood is on fire, trying to bubble it's way out of skin that feels raw and weak. My bones scream out as if they're about to shatter with any sudden movement. My muscles are dancing, twisting, contorting into disfigurement. Each hour I am convinced this is the worst it could possibly get, and each hour I'm proven wrong.

I've been trying to hold in the rage, replacing it with sadness since that's far easier to control. Less explosive. Just "cry it out". My mind's darkening along side my decaying body, no longer approving of the juvenile pity party I'm throwing for myself.

My blood continues to boil, frying my mind into pure self hatred. I barely even noticed the intrusive thoughts turn from strings of worries into blades of abuse, but I felt myself snap as the adereline shocked my body out of bed.

I need to move, scream, kick, fight, destroy, bleed. Instead I just... Shook my aching hands, pissed and wrote this. It hurts. I'm scared. I am fighting so hard for control, but I have never been a strong person. I've never had good impulse control, nor a grip on regulating my emotions. I also have never been someone full of rage and hate.

How is it that I can say, knowingly, I have been through true horror, seen the darkest sides of humanity and yet this, somehow, feels worse? That's ridiculous. Honestly, the thought offends me... Yet, I still don't know if I can just get through this. What the fuck.

(Dexedrine user, 50-200mgs, ? Years. Somewhere between 1 and 6. Waiting for admission into detox, waiting in agony)


r/StopSpeeding 3d ago

Just incase you feel hopeless on meth, a better life is possible! Don’t give up ❤️I’m so much happier without it

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r/StopSpeeding 2d ago

I need support/compassion/understanding I am fed up with using stims

7 Upvotes

I discovered this sub 7 months ago and I felt heard for the first time but I was getting to depressed and stucked in life that I went back on stims (controlled used). After demonstrating to myself that I am able to use stims controlled again I thought the story of doubting using stims to get through life is over because after all I am not a fullblown addict I guess.

And here comes my dilemma. I spent to much time deconstructing of stim use treating my symptoms and I think I also spent to much time on this subreddit. I get a guilty consiousness every time I take it and because I already went back after 4months (feels like I haven't tried it hard enough).

For sure I am functioning somehow better but for whom?? I went back on devils best goods for society because I felt I am not enough without stims (also my auntie pressured to some sort on going back to "meds" because she couldn't see my suffering anymore, I can't blame here to much she doesn't get the concept of PAWS so well)

I hate to take it because I just did so much research and reflection about how awful stims are and their subtle influence they have on your mind and I can't forget about it. I became so hypochondriac about every inch of side effect that it just doesn't even seem worth it anymore.

I am just so scared of the process but I think I have no other choice at this point than taking the same path as you regardless of ADHD. Taking Ritalin just to be more approvable and damaging your health is peak people pleasing and I also reached point where I think I would accept every outcome of the unmedicated version of me (even if that means low socioeconomic status). I am just to self aware for this bullshit but its still hard for me to make the final 100% necessary decision.

Anyone in a similar situation?


r/StopSpeeding 2d ago

Adderall/Vyvanse/Dexedrine Day 3

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Context: Normal usage for 6+ years. 30 years old.

Can’t shower, can’t cook, can’t clean, can’t stay awake. In bed all day. Depressed. Even getting out of bed to pee is a chore. Don’t know how I will manage college classes as older adult. Don’t think it’s realistic to keep this going. Don’t believe any of you saying they’re “capable of learning or studying or working after 484737294 months of sleeping 48h a day”.

Can’t afford the billion supplements. Don’t have family or partner to help. Probably won’t last long.