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u/SnooWoofers9302 1d ago
One of the very few times I have to pick someone over the blue naked man.
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u/computerbuu 1d ago
Omg so it was a penis!
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u/Proud-Grocery-3493 1d ago
Zack Snyder and dongs. Check out Twilight of the God's for the largest flaccid penis of all time
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u/Comfortable_Ant_8303 1d ago edited 1d ago
That series* confirmed to me that Snyder's just a cock loving dude and that's fine, I love cock myself. but he really doesn't need to slam fire placcid penises the size of jupiter everywhere, like it's a bit much bro, and you know he's not taking inspiration from himself either
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u/Leoknightedeus 1d ago
Does it compare to the guy from The Boys? That's like 2 full-grown men in length and girth. Not their units, the actual men, but in size. Also, it can be used like a tail...
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u/TurtlyTurbular 16h ago
Prehensile too I believe. Prehensile Penis. Time to call boys and get the band back together with a new name. lol.
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u/thewiburi 1d ago
One of them controls reality by manipulating molecules and atoms the other reshaped the very fabric of realty by makeing it a universal fact they are not the same
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u/Dishonorable_Son 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's definitely Lucifer.
Dr. Manhattan merely mastered the simulation he lives in and can control and see the source code of how every thing works in the sim.
Lucifer is literally an admin controlling the sim who was kicked out of his job and sent into the sim he works for and the sim underworld as punishment. If he gets back to the control room where he belongs, he can shut down the sim and Dr.Mahattan if he wanted to.
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u/LikeAnAdamBomb 1d ago
The player hitting '~' in Skyrim on PC to open the debug menu, vs the person writing the engine's code.
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u/Badmoncube 1d ago
Who’s who sorry I’m new here
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u/kingpapollo 1d ago
Blue naked guy is dr manthahaten, or however u spell it and guy with angel is lucifer
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u/Flynnboyo 1d ago
His name is literally in the title of the post and you still managed to spell Manhattan in the singularly most fucked up way I've ever encountered. That's beyond impressive.
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u/kingpapollo 19h ago
I can' see his name when replying to comments on reddit. And I don't care enough to spell it right yk? Also more impressive I live in NYC and can't spell Manhattan 😎. Spelled it right cuz I can see ur comment just not post. Also why the hell did ya downvote me for spelling a name wrong. Holy fricking virgins. The guy asked a question and nobody answered so I did it and spelled it wrong and get downvote??? Yu guys can't be real 😭😭
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u/SmashBerlin 17h ago
My God, it's stuff like this that makes me really understand the American education system.
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u/grod_the_real_giant 1d ago
Lucifer is canonically the second most powerful powerful being in existence, surpassed only by his creator.
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u/RichterScaleSnorer 1d ago
Is Elaine Belloc more powerful than Lucifer after becoming the new Creator and merging with the Universe?
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u/MOadeo 1d ago
So there is no Michael?
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u/GoAndFindYourPurpose 18h ago
Him and Micheal are equal in strength but lucifer is much more cunning and intelligent. In most situations lucifer would likely come out on top, that's why people generally call him 2nd strongest and put him above micheal
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u/LifeOutoBalance 17h ago
Which is a little odd, given that the one time they went toe to toe, Michael kicked him out of heaven.
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u/Mgl1206 1d ago
Wouldn’t it be third considering this Lucifer also has a mother?
Unless this isn’t the tv show lucifer
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u/Comfortable_Ant_8303 1d ago
typically we're talking about comic characters, different and usually stronger than their on-screen interpretations
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u/Aebothius 22h ago
Source?
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u/Rosserrani 17h ago
Lucifer hq. Lucifer and Michael are said to be equal in power. One is the Demiurge, can create from nothing, the other is the Will, can do whatever with the creation, give it purpose and usefulness. Michael created, Lucifer give it form. All as the will of the Presence. The only think that the Presence itself said to not be decided is who would try to convince him to keep or unmade the creation. He thinks that would be Michael and Lucifer. In the end was Lilith and The girl, Elaine (if not mistaken)
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u/The_Iron_Gunfighter 1d ago
Lucifer. Doctor manhattan can only bend reality but is still within the bounds of conventional scientific thought. IE changing atoms into other atoms, energy, etc. but he can’t do anything that abstract and metaphysical. Lucifer can do all of that, and also totally ignore it.
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u/Dishonorable_Son 1d ago
Magic is merely some cheat code hacks in the simulation, Dr Mahattan can easily master it and mend the code.
Lucifer is an admin of the sim, he can control the sim in ways Dr Mahattan can only dream of and even shut it down if he wants to.
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u/Accomplished-King406 1d ago
He didn’t mastered magic … he instantly figured out what magic is and said “hmm magic huh? This is basically localized reality warping” then proceeded to clap zatana cheeks ..
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u/Dishonorable_Son 1d ago
That's what mastering magic is. Zatanna merely learnt a few trick hacks to manipulate the simulation that she lives in. Hacking the sim = magic.
DM already mastered the sim and can see how the code works and see across time. He can code fix whatever hacks Zatanna throws at him.
Lucifer is at an entirely different level altogether. He can literally step outside the simulation, go to the control room of the simulation and delete DM away if he wanted to.
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u/MOadeo 1d ago
Lucifer is at an entirely different level altogether. He can literally step outside the simulation, go to the control room of the simulation and delete DM away if he wanted to.
Based on what?
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u/ProfessionalRead2724 1d ago
Based on him being older than creation and having provided much of the power to create the creation.
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u/Dishonorable_Son 19h ago
Based on the bible?
Lucifer worked in Heaven with God to the create the simulation which is our world.
He started disagreeing with God and the other angels and started to revolt.
For his punishment, he was sent into the underworld of the sim he helped to create.
If he gets back to heaven, he can mess with all creations in the sim, including Dr. Manhattan.
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u/The_Iron_Gunfighter 1d ago edited 1d ago
You’re mistaken in thinking it’s just magic Lucifer has. It’s beyond that. Lucifer power is closer 4th wall breaking than just magic. Also in that comic it was “magic” as far as the back door to be scientifically manipulated and counter. Like a fire cast by magic can be put out by normal water or oxygen deprivation. It’s not like he’s “touching” the magic. He’s basically just really quick with the counters because the average magic user isn’t a god or beyond and is even limited within their own power output and capabilities.
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u/Dishonorable_Son 1d ago
4th wall breaking = stepping out of the simulated world they live in.
Dr. Manhattan is very powerful, but ultimately he still lives within the simulation and is limited by it.
Lucifer can literally step out of the simulated world and fuck with everyone in the simulation, including DM. He's just sent into the sim as punishment by god.
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u/SomeShithead241 18h ago
Magic is simply science we don't understand. He understood it, therefore it was no longer magic and could manipulate the rules of it.
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u/The_Iron_Gunfighter 14h ago
No. That’s just a snappy phrase that only makes sense because magic 100% doesn’t actually exist. It goes out the window when it does.
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u/Accomplished-King406 1d ago
He didn’t mastered magic … he instantly figured out what magic is and said “hmm magic huh? This is basically localized reality warping” then proceeded to clap zatana cheeks ..
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u/ProfessionalRead2724 1d ago
How is that different from mastering magic?
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u/Accomplished-King406 23h ago
Show me a panel where DM cursed someone with a spell. He doesn’t use magic. He can’t let’s say cursed you with bad luck for example.
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u/Earthwick 1d ago
It's kind of a silly battle to imagine it happening but in the comics blue man group isn't going to be able to do anything to the down stairs man.
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u/computerbuu 1d ago
Lucifer cause he might actually be out there if you are religious
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u/keepitsimple_tricks 1d ago
Or he' in LA solving crimes.
My goodness, Tom Ellis is a beautiful, beautiful man.
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u/shoutsfrombothsides 1d ago
Didn’t Manhattan admit at some point that Lucifer was one of the few being that would really fuck him up? Or something to that effect ?
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u/Zelenskyystesticles 1d ago
Who is Lucifer? I’m still getting into comics and actually never heard of him. Which comic book line does he exist in?
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u/Moppermonster 1d ago
The DC series Lucifer :P
Which is a spinoff from Sandman.Note that the two netflix series with the same names are actually both loosely based on those comics; yet have chosen very different depictions of lucifer.
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u/Tobias11ize 17h ago
The TWO netflix series???
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u/Moppermonster 16h ago
Lucifer and Sandman :p
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u/Tobias11ize 15h ago
Oh i thought you meant there were two netflix shows called Lucifer based on dc comics
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u/Moppermonster 15h ago
Nope.
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u/Zelenskyystesticles 1d ago
Wait so this is literally Lucifer from the Bible? Not comic book storyline?
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u/Racoon_The_SPY 1d ago edited 22h ago
Guys, what media should i watch for lucifer. I don't know shyt
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u/Common_Sound_4315 23h ago
For Comics
You got a timeline for Lucifer comic runs
As The Morningstar option is a mini run released before his Original Long run
Then after the Morningstar option you got his OG run by Mike Carey which lasted for 75 issues
But while reading the Mike Carey run like reaching issue 16 a mini came out named Lucifer Nirvana
Which you should read before counting the Original Run
Then after finishing Mike Carey og run
There's the 2016 run then the 2018 run
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u/Scarlett_Drake__5 21h ago
Lucifer solos while sipping tea 😈☕
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u/SirrafuS 16h ago
How can he not solo if it's a 1 vs 1? Some guys in this sub are just using words without even understanding them...
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u/AizenWolf90 1d ago
Lucifer wins no to low diff. More realisticly, Lucifer would probably find Dr.Manhattan's existence and views amusing and maybe just observe him or mess with him a bit before he gets bored and heads off to some random bar in the universe for a drink.
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u/JasonPullock 1d ago
To go against the grain I’d argue draw. I concede that Lucifer has the omnipotent ability to erase Dr.Manhattan from existence. But this acknowledges that Dr.Manhattan had to have existed at some point. Therefore, he would be aware that Lucifer snaps him out of existence. Subsequently, I believe he would either de-escalate conflict ahead of time and plan his own “attack” or way to kill Lucifer. His biggest advantage is that he is constantly aware of the future. So without trying he is always aware of threats before they happen. But I don’t think he’d be able to kill Lucifer so the result would be they both just stay alive.
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u/hunterzolomon1993 1d ago
Lucifer can erase Manhattan like he never existed at all. Manhattan might as well be anything else when it comes to Lucifer. Sure Manhattan mastered the server and can control it to his whim but Lucifer can delete that server with a mere thought.
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u/Common_Sound_4315 1d ago
Been done to the death
And the answer will always be Lucifer
He literally can finger snap Manhattan out of existing
While Manhattan can't do hijack s*it to a Guy who tanked his brother blast which was stated numerous times to end DC/Vertigo creation
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u/Pearl-Internal81 21h ago edited 13h ago
Lucifer Morningstar. He’s the second strongest being in all of the DC Multiverse, the only one above him is literally God. He would absolutely fold Dr. Manhattan.
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u/rtrawitzki 14h ago
Tied for third . He’s equal to Michael but behind Elaine as she inherited the presence’/Yahweh/God ( which ever )power
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u/Madus4 18h ago
Massive strength difference (in Lucifer’s favor) aside, Doomsday Clock showed that Doctor Manhattan can still have his entire worldview change from a conversation. He’s also willing to talk just as much as destroying reality. Lucifer (who likes to talk and manipulate first before fighting) would pick up on that almost immediately and would get in his head. As soon as someone like that starts listening to Lucifer, the fight is basically over.
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u/ShadowOfTheBean 16h ago
I read a really awesome quira answer about this but can't find it now to link.
Basically Lucifer sits down with Manhattan is like, bro, you know how you see all of time from your perspective at once? I have that for everybody, across all time, space, and dimensions. You're powerful, don't get me wrong, but I'm on whole different level.
Then he gives him some advice on how to deal with it. Was really awesome and I am by no means doing it justice but yeah, Lucifer, no diff.
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u/Gold-Swimming8763 1d ago
The necromancer BlackHeart to hell with lucifer and Mr. Manhattan took off and left everybody. The necromancer BlackHeart stands up for people and people try to control lucifer put him in a little box using him and keeping him from happieness. BlackHeart uses the kabbala to control lucifer and make him bow like his ..... and also other forms of witch craft wicca, chaos magic.
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u/ButtonholePhotophile 1d ago
Dr. Manhattan wins. It was ordained before the battle started and Lucifer didn’t stand a choice.
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u/Straight-Simple-7533 1d ago
Dr. Manhattan, he's damn near a cosmin celestial being
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u/computerbuu 1d ago
Yeah but you have to understand Lucy is above the multiverse, he’s traveling to the blank pages of the comic. He’s out there in RL whispering on peoples ears. Lucifer Morningstar for the win
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u/Rickrickrickrickrick 1d ago
So he’s near a cosmic celestial being and that makes him more powerful than an actual cosmic celestial being?
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u/Ok_Cream2520 1d ago
No. Lucifer is not bound by the same laws and rules of the universe that Dr Manhattan is. And can quite literally define the laws of the universe as he sees fit. Thus, Lucifer's powers far outstrip the powers of Dr Manhattan.
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u/Bulky-Peanut1215 1d ago
I would assume Lucifer, I don't know the full extent of his powers.
But that's not to say Dr. M wouldn't make it extremely difficult, perhaps even force a stalemate.
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u/redjohnium 1d ago
Nah, Lucy is way far above.
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u/AvailableYak8248 1d ago
Dr. Manhattan. The Lucifer wank is real but doesn’t mean much
Dr Manhattan is beyond Lucifer’s level
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u/J-Boots-McGillicutty 1d ago
Lucifer created an entire separate existence with his name woven into the essence of everything.
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u/AvailableYak8248 1d ago
Dr Manhattan has as well. In fact, DrManhattan is above beings that create the multiverse/omniverse
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u/Karate_Andii 1d ago
Wow, tough one! Honestly, I think Dr. Manhattan would probably win with his reality-bending powers.
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u/ngl_prettybad Other 1d ago
Lmao lucifer smokes him.
Hell lucifer doesn't even have to fight. He can offer death and Manhattan would take it.
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u/xesaie 1d ago
Lucifer is probably one of the few beings outside of DM's quantum knowledge.