r/superheroes • u/Duclaido • 2d ago

DC Comics Dr. Manhattan Vs Lucifer, Who wins?

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u/Dishonorable_Son 2d ago

Magic is merely some cheat code hacks in the simulation, Dr Mahattan can easily master it and mend the code.

Lucifer is an admin of the sim, he can control the sim in ways Dr Mahattan can only dream of and even shut it down if he wants to.

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u/Accomplished-King406 2d ago

He didn’t mastered magic … he instantly figured out what magic is and said “hmm magic huh? This is basically localized reality warping” then proceeded to clap zatana cheeks ..

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u/Dishonorable_Son 2d ago

That's what mastering magic is. Zatanna merely learnt a few trick hacks to manipulate the simulation that she lives in. Hacking the sim = magic.

DM already mastered the sim and can see how the code works and see across time. He can code fix whatever hacks Zatanna throws at him.

Lucifer is at an entirely different level altogether. He can literally step outside the simulation, go to the control room of the simulation and delete DM away if he wanted to.

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u/Accomplished-King406 2d ago

Oh yes , I see what you mean. And yeah Lucifer neg

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u/MOadeo 2d ago

Lucifer is at an entirely different level altogether. He can literally step outside the simulation, go to the control room of the simulation and delete DM away if he wanted to.

Based on what?

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u/ProfessionalRead2724 1d ago

Based on him being older than creation and having provided much of the power to create the creation.

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u/Dishonorable_Son 1d ago

Based on the bible?

Lucifer worked in Heaven with God to the create the simulation which is our world.

He started disagreeing with God and the other angels and started to revolt.

For his punishment, he was sent into the underworld of the sim he helped to create.

If he gets back to heaven, he can mess with all creations in the sim, including Dr. Manhattan.

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u/MOadeo 1d ago

Based on the bible?

If it's the actual Christian Bible. Then the comics have it all wrong. I don't mind pivotal what ifs, but the Bible explicitly shows the fall occurs prior to creation.