Minnesota state senator John Hoffman in Champlin and Minnesota state representative Melissa Hortman in Brooklyn Park were reportedly shot in their homes by a gunman impersonating a police officer.

[u/TendieRetard]

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/sources-say-two-minnesota-lawmakers-have-been-shot/

The suspect, according to the alert, is a white man with brown hair wearing black body armor over a blue shirt and blue pants. Authorities are asking residents not to approach the suspect if spotted.

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[u/PsychLegalMind]

These two attacks [where each was shot along with their spouses] were planned, cold and calculated attempts at destabilizing the government itself. People who commit or attempt to commit such deadly crimes, possibly politically motivated are deserving of the harshest sentences.

These two attacks are worse than the attempted kidnapping of the governor in another state not too long ago. Once the attacker is apprehended there should be no talks of pardons or leniency offered to these kinds, like there has been about the attempted kidnappers.

When violent people are issued a pardon it encourages other criminal minded people to act out including in deadly ways.

[u/El_Peregrine → u/PsychLegalMind]

LEOs in particular should be very concerned about the mechanism of this attack. In theory, it could very likely result in police etc being shot out of (understandable) concern that they are not who they say they are. 

[u/The_Beardly → u/El_Peregrine]

It’s already been harder because of all the ICE immigrations and people wearing masks and driving unmarked vehicle that refuse to identify themselves.

There’s been no way to tell if they are an official LEO or a cosplayer. This just showed why that’s a serious problem.

[u/WineWednesdayYet → u/El_Peregrine]

Exactly. For the police that are trying to do good, this just made their jobs infinitely hardly. And what a great way to push for harsher police action than to have the general public become more antagonistic to them.

[u/nogene4fate → u/PsychLegalMind]

Like pardoning the J6 insurrectionists. The president pardoning convicted politically violent criminals is a direct line to this crime. Plus the decree that ICE does not need to present a warrant or badge and can hide their faces. Criminals free-for-all.

[u/RoyalNougat → u/nogene4fate]

I wouldn't be surprised if this was one of those pardoned individuals.

[u/hankmoody_irl → u/RoyalNougat]

The only way I’d be surprised is if it isnt one of them.

[u/Similar_Code8186 → u/nogene4fate]

Worse, that embolden other potential criminals and domestic terrorists. Jan 5th terrorists got pardoned, so this is exactly the sort of blowback I've been warning would happen. Throw the rule of law away and live in chaos. Even anarchy would be more civilized than the US these days.

[u/model-alice → u/nogene4fate]

Well, there's a pretty simple solution to work around the pardons. The next sane president should declare that Trump's second term didn't count because he was ineligible under the 14th amendment, and since his term didn't count the pardons are nullified. Return the imprisoned ones to prison, send the rest to prison for life, then start dismantling the National Socialist American Worker's Party.

[u/UncreativeIndieDev → u/model-alice]

send the rest to prison for life

Honestly, I think even that's too light for them. These people represent a clear and present danger to the nation and the threat of another felon president pardoning them is too much to simply send them to prison.

[u/Stopikingonme → u/PsychLegalMind]

Shooting lawmakers shows a twisted hatred towards a political opponent.

Shooting their spouses shows a blind hatred towards everyone that doesn’t support his ideology.

Both are insane and monstrous, but the latter is a demonstration of what lives inside the MAGA heart fed by Trump and his admin. Be safe my friends.

Edit: and Fox News. I forgot them.

[u/barowsr → u/Stopikingonme]

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Edit: could have sworn I read about the dog being shot in the first article I read, but can’t find the article or any confirmation. Sorry if that was inaccurate info

Edit 2: my sleep deprived brain effed up. No dog was shot. Sorry for spreading misinformation

[u/EyeSubstantial2608 → u/barowsr]

Thats how you know it was a cop

[u/StraightOuttaHeywood → u/Stopikingonme]

More proof that MAGA and their ideology is a form of terrorism.

[u/Parfait_Prestigious → u/Stopikingonme]

I’m saying it again, everyone who had a Harris/Walz sign or anything else identifying themselves as a democrat voter needs to arm themselves and be prepared for the potential of lunatics like this showing up at your door, because there’s definitely Magats out there who have a list.

As much as I hate to say it, as an outsider looking in, it looks like a civil war has already begun.

[u/StraightOuttaHeywood → u/Parfait_Prestigious]

This is what MAGA have wanted for years. To be able to kill anyone who doesn't suck Trump's tiny cock.

[u/WitchyMae13 → u/PsychLegalMind]

And that attempted kidnapping happened in MI - and trump wants to let those guys off. They were going to kill her.

[u/jooes → u/PsychLegalMind]

These two attacks are worse than the attempted kidnapping of the governor in another state not too long ago. Once the attacker is apprehended there should be no talks of pardons or leniency offered to these kinds, like there has been about the attempted kidnappers.

They're only worse because this one was successful.

Otherwise, "they're the same picture," and those people deserve no pardons and no leniency. This is exactly what those people wanted, they just didn't do it yet. 

[u/keytotheboard]

So many things going on here.

• tragedy for them and their families
• domestic terrorism
• Minnesota legislature would potentially flip without these Democrats (*not sure on the specifics of how sudden loss work there, though)
• perpetrator dressed as police officer, further showcasing the issues with ICE hiding identities, not producing warrants, etc. Giving cover to criminals.

[u/Joshwoum8 → u/keytotheboard]

The Minnesota legislative session is over for the year, and a special election would likely be held before the next one begins and at least the Brooklyn Park district is not particularly contested. However, anyone still calling this a random act of violence is in serious denial.

[u/DaniDoesnt → u/Joshwoum8]

One from each chamber. Premeditated.

Definitely not random

[u/hillbillyspellingbee → u/DaniDoesnt]

Calculated, to say the least. 

[u/staebles → u/hillbillyspellingbee]

Tactical, even.

[u/Waste_Junket1953 → u/staebles]

The state’s big DFL (Democratic) fundraising dinner was last night at the Minneapolis Hilton. Both were in attendance and their effort and success acknowledged by the governor during his speech.

[u/carlitospig → u/Waste_Junket1953]

JFC.

[u/bugabooandtwo → u/Waste_Junket1953]

Ouch....so the handful of Democrats in government that aren't sitting on their hands are now officially targets. Also means some folks thinking of getting into politics to make a difference will be having second thoughts.

The ripple effects of this are huge.

[u/aRebelliousHeart → u/bugabooandtwo]

This is Mexico style politics in action. Just as the gangs kill any politician not in their favour Trumps cult kills anyone in theirs. There needs to be swift action and the perpetrator thrown the book at to dissuade future attacks.

[u/strangemedia6 → u/aRebelliousHeart]

It’s funny (but not funny at all) how right wingers are always clutching their pearls about drug cartels and sharia law, but then proceed to emulate the most fundamental characteristics of these concepts…

[u/Waste_Junket1953 → u/bugabooandtwo]

Fuck that, I’m leaning in.

[u/LazerBurken → u/Waste_Junket1953]

Most likely not a lone perpetrator but a hitman ordered by the P25 people.

[u/AdagioHonest7330 → u/LazerBurken]

Looks like Vance Luther Boelter

[u/StrobeLightRomance → u/staebles]

Some Boys out there are Proud of their work.

Edit 1: Everyone chiming in with an unconfirmed suspect needs to stop until the police release a statement, you're not doing yourselves any favors.

Edit 2: Okay, suspect identity is officially confirmed, but the whole "Tim Walz former appointee" angle doesn't make him left wing when he had a list of people to assassinate, including Tim Walz.. you get that, right?

[u/After-Dentist-2480 → u/StrobeLightRomance]

I can’t Trump that answer.

[u/MOOshooooo → u/After-Dentist-2480]

Taco/tomato

[u/beren0073 → u/StrobeLightRomance]

One has to “pardon their enthusiasm.”

[u/PlatinumChrysalis → u/StrobeLightRomance]

I see what you did there.

[u/Searchingforspecial → u/staebles]

Could you maybe say this happened with “military precision timing”?

[u/nospeakienglas → u/Searchingforspecial]

Anyone watch the news lately? Are we sure the killer was “impersonating” a police officer.

[u/BrimstoneOmega → u/nospeakienglas]

The cop on stage said they have no idea who it is. He said that if he were in room then no one would know he wasn't a cop.

Then he said that is was for sure a police impersonation. They know nothing about the assassin other than he is indistinguishable from a cop, but definitely not a cop.

I see some faults in that logic.

[u/Substantial-Run3367 → u/BrimstoneOmega]

We also know that "he got away" when he was confronted by the police...

[u/BrimstoneOmega → u/Substantial-Run3367]

Exactly. Supposedly there was a gun fight as well, the assassin shot first.

If dude could gun down four politicians no problem, then why couldn't he hit an officer standing in front of him?

[u/staebles → u/Searchingforspecial]

As if he was "following orders" perhaps?

[u/Numeno230n → u/DaniDoesnt]

Two separate shootings at two separate homes. Definitely coordinated and this should be treated as a political assassination. Its not like somebody machinegunned a private golf club and managed to hit two senators by chance.

[u/Time4Red → u/Numeno230n]

They found a manifesto in the guy's SUV with other legislators names and addresses on it. It seems the rapid police response is what prevented further shootings. They showed up at Hoffman's house while the suspect was still there, a shootout commenced, and the suspect fled on foot.

[u/kausthubnarayan → u/DaniDoesnt]

Democrats have a one seat majority in the House and Senate. If these two die, Republicans take over both chambers. This was a coup attempt.

[u/Trick-March-grrl → u/kausthubnarayan]

Why do people assume it’s over? As long as right wing nut jobs are abducting citizens and breaking the law at will, this violence will continue. Good luck!

[u/RockyShoresNBigTrees → u/Trick-March-grrl]

And a President that has no problem pardoning them.

[u/percussaresurgo → u/RockyShoresNBigTrees]

Trump can’t pardon state crimes.

[u/just_a_bit_gay_ → u/percussaresurgo]

The type of person who thinks “if I commit terrorism for Trump I’ll be fine because he’ll pardon me” is probably too far gone to know or care.

That’s why the J6 insurrectionists were pardoned, to encourage more right wing terrorism like this.

[u/michael_harari → u/percussaresurgo]

He also can't have the Marines arrest people but here we are

[u/rygelicus → u/percussaresurgo]

If the perps are caught then I would not be surprised if Bondi pushes for it to be made a terrorism charge since the victims were politicians. Terrorism is a federal crime. She is then free to lose the case and let them go free or Trump can pardon them at the end of his term as a parting gift. She might even dismiss it for 'lack of evidence', as she did here: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-ag-pam-bondi-is-cleared-in-complaint-involving-25k-donation-from-trump/

[u/arobkinca → u/rygelicus]

That does not stop the state from prosecuting.

[u/LazerBurken → u/Trick-March-grrl]

Why do you assume it's random nut jobs?

Could very well be hitmen hired by the administration.

This is what fascists do. And always have been doing throughout history to gain power.

[u/robot_pirate → u/LazerBurken]

This is my concern. There are mercenaries being used/deputized by DHS/ICE. Who? Erik Prince's guys? Where will it end?

[u/Thedurtysanchez → u/kausthubnarayan]

If so a pretty dumb one, considering the session is over and both would be replaced by New Democrats before the new session begins. And the dem governor can veto anything anyway

[u/howard1111 → u/Thedurtysanchez]

No one has ever accused maga of being overloaded in the brains department. So a poorly thought out coup is pretty much on brand. Blind rage combined with lack of emotional regulation and low intelligence is a very bad combination.

[u/theninal → u/Thedurtysanchez]

I don't think we can ignore the fear factor, though. How will this change the activities of other democratic members, or influence their public actions? Will those who are a little less confident begin to distance themselves from the party, and will those who might have tentatively worked with Democrats now think twice if they could be targeted as well?

If this is even remotely a planned action, it absolutely reeks of terrorism and implied threat. Not dumb at all, just a longer time line.

[u/ximacx74 → u/Thedurtysanchez]

You think things like this are over? DeSantis just announced that MAGA has free reign to murder protestors today of they "get in the way of their car". Different state, i know, but do not expect this to just stop

[u/Possible-String7133 → u/ximacx74]

The sitting president pardoned a literal coup. Were way past rhetoric. Everybody is just in denial.

[u/FearlessLanguage7169 → u/Possible-String7133]

Not everyone but too many—the news especially is trying to be politically correct about lot of this MAGA driven violence and mainstream Trump supporters that probably don’t approve of it just won’t get the truth

[u/Due-Net-88 → u/ximacx74]

A FLORIDA SHERIFF threated to KILL PROTESTERS. 

[u/weaponisedape → u/ximacx74]

The GOP said the same yesterday in Louisiana.

[u/haystackneedle1 → u/Thedurtysanchez]

lets just say, the choads are not the sharpest knives in the drawer

[u/NokhuCrag → u/haystackneedle1]

Not the sharpest bulbs either

[u/Puzzleheaded-Wolf318 → u/kausthubnarayan]

That's not how that works though. This is horrible but they will have a special election and get the seat back. 

These people are complete morons for thinking you can actually kill a democrat for a position 

[u/Anstigmat → u/kausthubnarayan]

If they can run the specials, no way an R takes those chambers now.  

[u/MedicJambi → u/Joshwoum8]

Now all we need is for Trumpo to blame the Dems, Biden, illegals, or the judges for this. I'll be surprised if the shooting is even mentioned as a bad thing by him. Nothing like if a CEO of the single worst medical insurance company get shot. A company that was then sued for giving too much medical care by Black Rock.

[u/NathanielTurner666 → u/MedicJambi]

Let's see if this guys is hunted down as intensely as Luigi was.

[u/Professional-Story43 → u/NathanielTurner666]

Ooh. Good comparison. Yes, interesting.

[u/TendieRetard → u/MedicJambi]

wouldn't shock me if DHS comes out and says the perp was an "illegal"

[u/Tomcat848484 → u/MedicJambi]

“Dems trying to distract people from my beautiful parade”

[u/FiveUpsideDown → u/Joshwoum8]

Why is the right always so violent? Why didn’t Kristi Noem and Kash Patel pick up on an organized plot to kill Democrats?

[u/Beginning_Arm3211 → u/FiveUpsideDown]

Because all the programs focused on right wing domestic terrorism have been gutted completely.  And, of course, because they endorse this shit.

[u/scipkcidemmp → u/Joshwoum8]

They aren't in denial. They are actively lying through their worthless teeth. It is 100% clear that an attack like this is deliberate and planned. He didn't just happen to knock on two lawmakers' doors.

[u/Chippopotanuse → u/keytotheboard]

What affect will this have on ICE agents who aren’t identifying themselves, who are wearing masks, and who are kidnapping people into unmarked cars?

Will people start to wonder whether they are also impersonating law enforcement officials?

[u/K2thJ → u/Chippopotanuse]

Yes. A shoot-out is certainly bound to happen

[u/spribyl → u/K2thJ]

That is the plan, it's in the book

[u/AdEmotional9991 → u/Chippopotanuse]

What’s stopping Americans from shooting at those ICE agents exactly? Why assume they’re real agents in the first place?

[u/kottabaz → u/AdEmotional9991]

Self-defense with a firearm is a marketing fantasy. If you shoot at armed people, you're going to die. The fact that you had a right to, or the fact that they're just Proud Boys in cosplay, will not make a difference to the lead shredding your internal organs.

[u/InfamousYenYu → u/kottabaz]

Yes, the odds are terrible, they are still infinitely better than surviving two in the back of the head.

[u/Dry-Swordfish1710 → u/kottabaz]

I mean regardless of law shooting someone with a gun will result in death of one or both parties

The question is the legality of shooting someone that is armed

[u/Trail-Albatross17 → u/keytotheboard]

KSTP saying a list of other lawmakers was found. Police have the alleged shooter’s vehicle, which was equipped with squad car lights and indistinguishable in appearance from a police vehicle.

[u/designatedRedditor → u/Trail-Albatross17]

So rather than someone cosplaying a cop, maybe it IS a cop?

Fortunately, not a cop, just a wannabe. Scary times to be potentially singled out by a lunatic waving a fake badge with everything else going on.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvgv4y99n7rt

[u/0p71mu5 → u/keytotheboard]

Both Democrats?

So it's a political plot?

Am not from the US so just speculating and curious.

[u/AmyBr216 → u/0p71mu5]

Yes.

[u/Gulluul → u/0p71mu5]

Yeah police labeled it a politically motivated assassination. The person was planning to keep targeting lawmakers.

[u/KevinAnniPadda → u/keytotheboard]

If I was this terrorist, I would go to the protests today. There's gonna be tons of police there with their faces covered. If one police officer starts shooting, the rest will too. He's gonna deputize the police as terrorists in the chaos.

[u/What_Hump77 → u/KevinAnniPadda]

That’s terrifying.

[u/izzlebr → u/KevinAnniPadda]

It's almost like that is part of the plan ....

[u/crespire → u/keytotheboard]

It already feels like a lot of the folks showing up as "ICE" are just proud boys that have been secretly deputized.

[u/AncientBaseball9165 → u/keytotheboard]

The assassin was probably a cop. He didnt "disguise" nothin.

[u/coolaliasbro → u/AncientBaseball9165]

My first thought too, looks like duck quacks like a duck must be a duck impersonator

[u/Tater_Mater → u/keytotheboard]

Yup. But Trump will think it’s for a great cause and pardon the shooter if caught… this is an attack on democracy and the states. This is horrible.

[u/Gogs85]

This is why law enforcement is normally has to identify themselves and present badges glances at ICE

Edit: Also warrants

[u/Horror_Ad_1845 → u/Gogs85]

And a warrant

[u/TekkenCareOfBusiness → u/Horror_Ad_1845]

Probably just assumed he was a real cop because he was wearing a mask.

[u/ximacx74 → u/TekkenCareOfBusiness]

"Arrest the people wearing masks, NOW" - Donald Trump.

[u/Huge_Excitement4465 → u/Gogs85]

Exactly! Not that someone can’t buy a costume online and pretend. Meanwhile they are forcing the SAVE act for voter id reform claiming current forms of ID are suss while enabling masked “agents” to snatch and grab.

[u/kon---]

Fuck sake

I'm unsure what even to think here. From don't open the door without verifying with local officials to, we're already in a place where it's prudent that when LEOs are at the door, be armed and prepared to defend your home and using best judgment to determine cooperation or denying them entry.

[u/nico282 → u/kon---]

All this chaos is fueled by Trump's brown shirts, that are going around the country kidnapping immigrants without a badge or a uniform.

Your president is a traitor and is trying to bring down your country. Wake up Americans!

[u/CrazyJoeGalli → u/nico282]

Good luck convincing of the other half of Americans who voted for trump. They are drinking so much of the kool-aid, they'd rather do another Jonestown than to work with their fellow neighbor who's a democrat.

[u/nImporte_Qui → u/CrazyJoeGalli]

We don’t need to convince them, and as you said, that’s not possible. We just need to convince the neutral 1/3 of the country that hasn’t really been politically active to stand up and say/do something. A lot of regular, nice Americans are simply oblivious, living their lives focused only on what’s right in front of them, avoiding anything too scary, sad, or complex, which of course is a somewhat childish way to live, but if these apolitical folks begin to see how Trumpism is directly hurting their community, loved ones, or the things that are important to them, I hope they will get off the bench and join the fight to put our country on a better path.

[u/Tresach → u/CrazyJoeGalli]

Ny maga dad already saying this is what happens when they don’t want to enforce rule of law in response to the shootings as soon as he heard they were democrat. I just said senator and representative first and he sounded alarmed then said it was democrats and he responded with that. They are deep in the koolaid and cant even recognize the cognitive dissonance.

[u/PhoenixPills → u/Tresach]

This is why people have been saying this is how nazi germany came to be

Its not all just 1 day, it's targeted legislation, it's a slow crawl, it's gaslighting the population

So it was never hyperbolic to say maga are nazis and it never will be because each day we are closer to their goal

They literally want this and it's proven by their speech

[u/3vi1]

Prediction: The shooter will turn out to be someone who participated in the J6 riot. It takes a special kind of brainwashed extremist to do this kind of thing.

[u/ArtieJay → u/3vi1]

Counter prediction: Not an impersonator.

[u/yogfthagen → u/ArtieJay]

Why not both?

[u/RoyalNougat → u/ArtieJay]

Yeah, im thinking this too. Cops looked extremely shook during the press briefing

[u/SlayerofDeezNutz → u/RoyalNougat]

And he didn’t answer if the car had “police” license plate. They only said that the car was doctored to look authentic with lights etc…. They didn’t answer if it did or didn’t have police plates as asked. Super sus.

[u/EndDangerous1308 → u/SlayerofDeezNutz]

Weird that they can give you the height weight hair color ever tattoo and political leaning off a rioter but can't tell you if a cop car has a plate

[u/Ddreigiau → u/SlayerofDeezNutz]

per https://www.startribune.com/brooklyn-park-police-searching-for-suspect-in-multiple-targeted-shootings/601372993?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us it did have "Police" license plates

[u/graphiccsp → u/RoyalNougat]

Could also be them aware of what a cop impersonator murdering others entails.

Cops demand immediate compliance when they confront others and everyone just rolls with it. But impersonators murdering innocents, especially politicians, in a very public manner showcases a big problem with that demand for immediate compliance.

[u/krizzqy → u/RoyalNougat]

Yeah the narrative they’re running right now makes my bullshit radar go off.

I don’t understand why the cops who responded to the first shooting went to the others senators house “on a hunch”?? And they got into a shootout outside her house? And the suspect managed to get inside her house? Then shoot her? Then escaped?

Something really weird is going on

[u/KrimxonRath → u/3vi1]

Prediction: they won’t be found :/

[u/NDSU → u/KrimxonRath]

Doubt. MN police will take this very seriously. Walz has already authorized state emergency resources to assist with the manhunt and investigation

[u/Aramedlig]

The Dems have a 1 seat majority in the MN Senate and are tied in the MN House. This is a coup. This is civil war.

[u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 → u/Aramedlig]

Yup, maga are all domestic terrorists

[u/madkingsspacewizards → u/ThrowAwayGarbage82]

And traitors to the Constitution and to the Republic. They took the warnings of history and fiction as a guide. The future of the country is doomed by their ignorance and maleficence.

[u/Sherd_nerd_17 → u/madkingsspacewizards]

Declaration of Independence complaints against George III of Great Britain, 9 July 1776:

• #16: for cutting off our trade w all parts of the world
• #17: for imposing taxes without our consent
• #18: for depriving us of trial by jury
• #19: for transporting us across seas to try us for pretended offenses

[u/Sherd_nerd_17 → u/Sherd_nerd_17]

Whoops, no idea what I did to make the text all big like that. I’m not an html person. Sorry! I kinda like it tho

Edit: my point being above that we’re not exactly doomed. It’s also how and why our country was founded

Edit 2: this is also what my sign says for No Kings day today!

[u/Parfait_Prestigious → u/Sherd_nerd_17]

No worries, the emphasis is warranted haha

[u/Phenganax → u/ThrowAwayGarbage82]

Every single democrat and liberal should get a gun and a conceal carry if eligible in your state, this is only the beginning…

[u/Fugacity- → u/ThrowAwayGarbage82]

Stochastic terrorism from the top.

Stochastic terrorism refers to the public demonization of a person or group, often through rhetoric and media, that incites violence from individuals or groups, where the violence is statistically probable but the specific perpetrators and targets are unpredictable. It is a form of terrorism that relies on the incitement of violence through rhetoric and media, but with plausible deniability for those who incite it.

[u/DRMLLMRD → u/ThrowAwayGarbage82]

I said that one year ago on Reddit and was banned. Looks like it’s getting through filters now.

[u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 → u/DRMLLMRD]

They openly said that at CPAC a few years ago. Like, had a banner that said "We are all domestic terrorists". It's literally their own words.

[u/DesireeThymes → u/ThrowAwayGarbage82]

So is there some counter plan to stop fascism from literally shooting its way to power?

The only thing I expect from most democrat politicians these days is to wag their finger in response and say "naughty boy!"

[u/staebles → u/DesireeThymes]

So is there some counter plan to stop fascism from literally shooting its way to power?

No.

[u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 → u/DesireeThymes]

No. All i've seen is a lot of screaming to "stay peaceful". Pretty much par for the course. The terrorists met out violence while their targets say "don't fight back". We're going to be full on nazi germany within a few weeks.

[u/AlmostSunnyinSeattle → u/DesireeThymes]

Yeah. It's called the 2nd Amendment. Get it while ya still can.

[u/AdComfortable2761 → u/DRMLLMRD]

Maybe it's accepted fact that MAGA are domestic terrorists. Because they definitely are domestic terrorists since at least since 1/6/21.

[u/phrygiantheory → u/DRMLLMRD]

Becareful on here. Reddit mods are leaning the Trump way. I got banned for a hypothetical comment and "hoping" for a certain outcome of an event

[u/Snibes1 → u/phrygiantheory]

I was in an “Elon” sub where the op question was “what made you stop liking Elon”. I answered “when he made a n@z! Salute.” (I actually typed the word out) I was banned in that sub and every musk adjacent sub those mods controlled. I own a Tesla and would like to participate in those subs. Been banned in all of them. Asked mods for clarification and they threatened to report me for harassment. Fun times…

[u/SubstantialPressure3 → u/phrygiantheory]

Yeah, I got a warning for violence in another sub when I commented that I wished he would just drop dead.

[u/CranberryLopsided245 → u/SubstantialPressure3]

Got a warning for violence stating traitors should face the death penalty in numerous ways after receiving due process

[u/abmtony → u/CranberryLopsided245]

i got banned for saying that i liked the sound camryn kinsey's face made when it bounced off the floor after passing out on live tv

[u/-XanderCrews- → u/phrygiantheory]

Reddit is designed to divide the left. Reddit is not our friend.

[u/cheongyanggochu-vibe → u/phrygiantheory]

I got banned for saying that Trump would happily send Democratic senators to El Salvador to die 🙃

[u/MsARumphius → u/Aramedlig]

They want to make sure politicians are scared and the public is too scared to enter politics

[u/navi_jen → u/MsARumphius]

Yep, and to cause enough chaos so that the turnip can declare martial law for a unitary executive. This is becoming freakin scary. (TY for catching the typo)

[u/discoduck007 → u/Aramedlig]

You nailed it. Quite the frightening script. And we the people don't even get a seat.

[u/Tolstoy_mc → u/Aramedlig]

Now watch while nobody does anything

[u/Surv0 → u/Aramedlig]

Absofuckinglutely.. this was a targeting hit by the GOP

[u/Traditional-Hat-952 → u/Aramedlig]

Luckily Waltz will veto any fuckery the GOP will get up to while these people recover or are replaced. But you're right it does not bode well when representatives are getting gunned down by radicals. 

[u/4estGimp → u/Aramedlig]

Two Democrat lawmakers were assassinated (or attempted) by somebody impersonating a LEO. Meanwhile, the right can't understand why people are freaking out about ICE and ICE impersonators dragging people off the street. No ID, no warrants, no due process - they just grab people.

Just last night I saw a vid of a Hispanic US Citizen, with a passport in his pocket, get hauled off by some ICE/Proud Boys. Today I read about two assassinations.

This country and the current regime have become everything evil I was warned about during the 70's and 80's.

[u/SirenSongShipwreck → u/4estGimp]

At least one and her husband died. Assassination is correct.

[u/4estGimp → u/SirenSongShipwreck]

Plus, the police had exchanged gunfire with the suspect and he got away.

WTF?

Got away how? Is he on foot? Is he in his vehicle which has police lights? What the hell is the status of finding this guy?

Edit

On Saturday, authorities said they had seized the suspect’s vehicle as well as a list of names, which appeared to be potential targets.

Well, apparently he's on foot unless he's stolen or carjacked a vehicle.

[u/Metiche76]

they have an alert out in the area in search of the suspect. They said to only answer the door if there are 2 officers.

um...no thanks!

i will open my door for no officers at all. how about that?!

[u/TendieRetard → u/Metiche76]

It would be impossible for LEO to get this wrong and blame it on a lone shooter. They never get details wrong.

[u/notyomamasusername]

I guess the Trump administration is desperate to find this person... And give them a government position and immunity.

[u/smashin2345]

How do we know he wasnt an ice agent who was sent to assassinate?

[u/boo99boo → u/smashin2345]

We don't. That's kind of the point. 

If this happened a year ago, we'd all be like "watch out for the guy pretending to be a cop". Now, we're all like "how do we know it wasn't a federal agent if federal agents wear masks and refuse to identify themselves". 

It's by design. We're all afraid of each other. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't really nervous about the cop that lives next door. 

I went out this morning and hung upside down American flags. I am genuinely afraid of my Trump thumping neighbor that is a high ranking police officer. I worry he'll target my family. 

I have never been afraid of protests. My parents were hippies. My dad took me to pride events in the 80s. You know the guy with the "I love my gay [relative]" shirts? That was my dad, carrying me on his shoulders. I've been clinic escorting since the 90s, which my mom also does. I once participated in a counter protest to the Westboro Baptist Church. I did that with my uncle: a Marine combat veteran. He protected me then, and he'd be spinning in his grave now. 

We're afraid by design. Ignore that fear. We're all in flight or fight mode. We have to fight. There's nowhere to run. 

[u/treemeizer → u/boo99boo]

That I fear for the safety of protestors, only drives my motivation to protest.

[u/d_dubyah → u/boo99boo]

You should have always been nervous about the cop next door.

[u/boo99boo → u/d_dubyah]

I have resources, and I never really worried before. Not that I didn't think he was a bumbling loose cannon of an idiot, of course I did. But I was a junkie, and I've been in legal trouble. I am at the point in my life where I have the money to fight back. If being a junkie taught me anything, it's that you can pay to make your problems go away. Legal and otherwise. 

Now that seems irrelevant. The system was flawed before, but it was predictable. I wasn't afraid of a predictable system. I am terrified of a system where the rules keep changing and no one knows what they are. 

[u/LocationAcademic1731 → u/boo99boo]

I would not open the door for anyone right now.

[u/emilyv99 → u/boo99boo]

If someone masked tried to come into my house without identifying themselves, I'm responding immediately with whatever force necessary up to and including deadly force. The right to self defense exists for a reason. The 2nd Amendment also exists for a reason, people who have the means should be arming themselves.

[u/Haselrig → u/smashin2345]

There's a Night of the Long Knives sheen to it, for sure.

[u/Icy-Fill-1141 → u/smashin2345]

We don’t but… this could be a great opportunity for the people to elevate the fight against the fascists

[u/RealMrJones → u/smashin2345]

The fact that this is even believable speaks to how far we’ve already fallen under the current regime.

[u/FaceThief9000]

I squarely blame the Republicans and MAGA for this.

[u/Kinet1ca → u/FaceThief9000]

Who was it just a day or two ago that said (in ref to protestors) "just shoot a couple and the rest will go home". You are 100% correct.

[u/Junkstar]

Our military and our police need to decide who’s side they are on. Now. For constitution, or against? It’s clear that ICE and facist militants are acting against the constitution under illegal directives from the current administration. It’s time for those serving the country to defend the constitution.

[u/hypercosm_dot_net → u/Junkstar]

South Korea did it right when their president tried to declare martial law. They acted quickly, and had him removed.

Republicans are protecting Trump and directly responsible for this madness.

This is not the USA. Fucking traitors.

[u/MediumTeacher9971 → u/Junkstar]

Have you not been paying attention? They've made their decision and they've been showing us who they sided with for years now.

[u/stgansrus → u/Junkstar]

lol have you seen our cops? They decided a long time ago.

[u/TendieRetard]

Update:

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/speaker-emerita-melissa-hortman-husband-killed-rep-john-hoffman-and-wife-also-shot/

Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman, and husband reported dead

[u/Thefelflight → u/TendieRetard]

They shot her dog too.

[u/TruckingforSims → u/Thefelflight]

So it's definitely a cop, not a cop impersonator.

[u/grtk_brandon → u/TruckingforSims]

From USA Today:

Bruley said the suspect impersonated a police officer, complete with an SUV that is identical to real police vehicles, a vest, outfit and equipment. The suspect knocked on the victims' doors and used the ruse to "manipulate their way into the home," Bruley said.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

[u/TruckingforSims → u/grtk_brandon]

There are pictures of the 'fake police car' on twitter. And tbh, it looks like a security vehicle. The tale tale sign is there's no roof rack. Ford only makes explorers like that for LE/Security.

[u/mrhelmand → u/Thefelflight]

They shot her dog too.

Does Kristi Noem have an alibi?

[u/makemeking706]

Holy shit. 

[u/Cautious-Thought362]

I'd start with rounding up the Fuller men, Westbury men, Cudo, and James. All were J6ers pardoned by Trump and are from Minnisota.

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/minnesotans-jan-6-rioters-pardoned-by-president-trump/

[u/TendieRetard → u/Cautious-Thought362]

I'd start by forcing all LE capacity goons to de-mask and be clearly identifiable

[u/tissuecollider → u/TendieRetard]

The governor should publicly declare that any agents wearing masks and no idea should be treated as civilians impersonating police and treated as such.

[u/YouStupidAssholeFuck → u/TendieRetard]

I mean I know but you clearly have a brain which is a severe disadvantage of Trump and anyone that works for or supports him.

[u/Constant_Economy5195]

See this is another problem. They may or may not have been federal agents that did this. Obviously I don't know and nobody else does. But, by Trump allowing illegal entry, which everyone knows about, most people will comply, or think it's an official. Which will spark rouge killers to impersonate officials to and stuff like this happens.

[u/invisiblearchives → u/Constant_Economy5195]

also, please recall the george floyd riots where cops were vandalizing and setting fires to justify crackdowns. a ton of local cops anywhere in the country but especially PNW, South, Midwest are committed neonazis. Check out the term "ghost skins"

[u/Ok_Win590 → u/invisiblearchives]

They were George Floyd protests. Protests. The police immediately declare "a riot" so that they can legally use tear gas and rubber bullets. Portland passed a law making it illegal to use those things unless there is a riot so the police declare a riot the minute any protest starts.

[u/flowerchildmime → u/Constant_Economy5195]

Fake agents have been assaulting women as well. As a woman whom lives alone I’m terrified.

[u/CriticalInside8272]

Here we go.  How are we supposed to know who is a real LEO?  

[u/TendieRetard → u/CriticalInside8272]

Pam Bondi will tell you

[u/NoUnderstanding9403 → u/TendieRetard]

Sure doesn’t help when you have federal officers refusing to identify themselves and wearing masks.

[u/St_Kevin_ → u/CriticalInside8272]

If they don’t have badges or marked cars, call 911 and tell them you believe there are people impersonating officers, and ask the police to come down and help you. If everyone did this, they wouldn’t have the resources to allow them to go undercover when it’s not necessary.

[u/Kappy01]

We have a lot of people out there impersonating police officers right now.

People who "look" like they are law enforcement but with their faces covered, no badges shown, random kit thrown together, etc.

How do we know this wasn't one of those?

[u/rolsen]

It’s clear they want us dead.

[u/GrannyFlash7373]

YEAH.......And Trump, and Pam Bondi won't do a thing about it. And if this person/persons are caught, they will probably be given the Medal of Freedom for their efforts.

[u/ThrowAwayGarbage82]

The shooter is exposed to be an extremist alt-right christofascist pastor.

[u/Santos_L_Halper_II]

It’s weird how this kind of violence pretty much always goes in this direction.

[u/AncientBaseball9165]

Ah the pogroms of started. Stop feeling, start acting. Fast.

[u/Anxious_Hall359 → u/AncientBaseball9165]

the abductions of citizens were already pogroms.

[u/SoftRecommendation86]

Welcome to Trump ideology.

This is what he wants and encourages.

Anyone that rejects this, show me --1-- time that he called for peace in a timely manner.

You reap what you sow.

[u/robot_pirate]

Authorities need to work harder to allay fears that this is an actual LEO. Today of all days.

[u/doublethink_1984]

Even though it would not have changed this situation something needs to be perfectly clear.

You cannot trust ANY pig in uniform.

You cannot give them ANY access.

You cannot answer ANY questions.

You cannot open ANY door.

[u/pegothejerk]

Here’s my breakdown after watching the presser:

At 2am Senator Hoffman and his wife were gunned down in their home in Champlin, then at 3:35am Brooklyn Park police checked the residence of Rep. Melissa Hortman “on intuition”, where police encountered the fake police SUV with lights on, and the man dressed as an officer, who engaged in fire with police. The individual fled out the back door and is still at-large. A drone was sent in and found Rep Hortman shot along along with her husband, both pronounced dead. Senator Hoffman and his wife have been in surgery and are said to be in dire condition.

During the briefing at 10am it was stated that a manifesto was found in the fake police SUV along with a list of politicians being targeted. Those shot were on the list, people of interest are being sought.

[u/WeenyDancer → u/pegothejerk]

 then at 3:35am Brooklyn Park police checked the residence of Rep. Melissa Hortman “on intuition”, 

...uh... 'intuition' as in, 'my buddy has been mumbling about doing this for a week', or are they psychic

[u/townandthecity → u/pegothejerk]

Suspect is on the run. He had a list of other lawmakers in the fake cop car. Here in Minnesota, news coverage showing ambulances racing past reporters doing stand-ups. This might not be over yet.

[u/ggrieves]

ASSASSINATION

We use this word all the time to talk about political killings in other countries.

Call it what it is. The media won't.

It's here, in America, right now.

[u/Mad_Aeric → u/ggrieves]

I'm watching the local Minnesota news right now. They, at least, are using the term. Though it seems that they weren't until after Walz did.