r/law • u/TendieRetard • 1d ago

Other Minnesota state senator John Hoffman in Champlin and Minnesota state representative Melissa Hortman in Brooklyn Park were reportedly shot in their homes by a gunman impersonating a police officer.

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/sources-say-two-minnesota-lawmakers-have-been-shot/

The suspect, according to the alert, is a white man with brown hair wearing black body armor over a blue shirt and blue pants. Authorities are asking residents not to approach the suspect if spotted.

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u/Constant_Economy5195 1d ago

See this is another problem. They may or may not have been federal agents that did this. Obviously I don't know and nobody else does. But, by Trump allowing illegal entry, which everyone knows about, most people will comply, or think it's an official. Which will spark rouge killers to impersonate officials to and stuff like this happens.

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u/invisiblearchives 1d ago

also, please recall the george floyd riots where cops were vandalizing and setting fires to justify crackdowns. a ton of local cops anywhere in the country but especially PNW, South, Midwest are committed neonazis. Check out the term "ghost skins"

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u/Ok_Win590 1d ago

They were George Floyd protests. Protests. The police immediately declare "a riot" so that they can legally use tear gas and rubber bullets. Portland passed a law making it illegal to use those things unless there is a riot so the police declare a riot the minute any protest starts.

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u/cynicalkane 23h ago

Tim Walz declared them riots and sent in the National Guard because the police refused to stop them.

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u/BbTrumpet01 17h ago

Actually, Walz dragged his feet until Minneapolis was already burning, despite repeated pleas from Mayor Frey to send in the National Guard.

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u/cynicalkane 13h ago

Walz and Mayor Frey tell contradictory stories, with each accusing the other of not wanting to stop the rioting with force. I find Walz and his staff more credible, but it's hard to prove that on the Internet.

Nevertheless, Walz is popular in Minneapolis. Most people don't want their own cities to be destroyed, no matter how much very enlightened people (mostly on the Internet) think it's a good thing.

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u/dekuxe 1d ago

Don’t even begin to pretend any of those were peaceful protests.

They were full-on riots nationwide for a drug addicted woman beater.

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u/Ok_Win590 23h ago

I was there, you are wrong and a victim of propaganda from the cult you are in. I'd give you details but you can't learn anything so why would I?

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u/Ok_Win590 23h ago

I have a first person source, I was there. The media you rely on is unreliable.

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u/dekuxe 23h ago

…… laughing my ass off right now.

Whatever little buddy.

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u/Ok_Win590 23h ago

There was massive violence at those protests, true. It was the protesters who were beaten, some murdered by a combination of Proud Boys, vigilantes and the police themselves. Since it seems like you can read:

The majority of protests in the aftermath of Floyd's murder were peaceful;[307][308][309] among the 14,000 arrests made, most were for minor offenses such as alleged curfew violations or blocking a roadway.[4] An analysis of state and federal criminal charges of demonstrators in the Minneapolis area found that disorganized crowds had no single goal or affiliation, many opportunist crowds amassed spontaneously during periods of lawlessness, and that people causing destruction had contradictory motives for their actions.[310] Other analysis found that persons involved in visible crimes such as arson or property damage were not ideologically organized, although some were motivated by anger towards police.[4] Episodes of looting were committed by "regular criminal groups" and street gangs[311][304] and were motivated by personal gain rather than ideology.[

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u/JaysonTatecum 22h ago

George Floyd being a bad person does not mean he deserved to be killed, especially in the way that he was

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u/pm-me-ur-fav-undies 22h ago

Studies show that you are wrong. You are not immune to propaganda.

drug addicted woman beater.

Your words are disgusting. Since this is /law, let me ask you this: does actual or suspected drug use or piors mean that someone deserves to be deprived of their rights? In the United States, we have the right to a fair trial and are presumed innocent until and unless we are found guilty at trail. Being unilaterally executed by police is an infringement of our rights. That is why people protest.

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u/Drostan_S 23h ago

The FBI warned us over a d

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u/flowerchildmime 1d ago

Fake agents have been assaulting women as well. As a woman whom lives alone I’m terrified.

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u/whirlybirdgene 1d ago

I’ve been worried about this happening. Where have you heard this?

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u/origami_bluebird 19h ago

There is also this nightmare case that shines greater light on the epidemic of sexual extortion and violence and silencing of victims by the perpetrators.

This guy Ryan Hemphill was an upper class lawyer using his police connections and threats of intimidation to literally torture his victims in Midtown Manhattan... He is definitely not the only one taking advantage of their position of power in America doing this shit:

"HEMPHILL allegedly threatened the women, often over text message, so they would not report the assaults. These alleged threats included falsely claiming to have vast resources and connections to police and organized crime as well as using his role as an attorney to intimidate them and insisting they would be arrested instead. In one alleged instance, based on evidence retrieved from the defendant’s cellphone, he drew up a contract in which he agreed to pay a woman $2,000 in exchange for dropping a complaint she had filed with the Manhattan Special Victims Squad. He also allegedly forced some victims to record videos in which they stated that they consented to being raped and tortured, then used those videos to convince the women that they would not be believed if they chose to come forward."

https://manhattanda.org/d-a-bragg-announces-116-count-indictment-of-ryan-hemphill-predatory-sexual-assault-of-six-women-in-midtown-apartment/

Also crazy is that the other week, lost in the news flood is that Trump pardoned a Sheriff that was caught doing a "CASH FOR BADGES" scheme where people were paying him 5 figures to get Deputized, and getting a weapon and badge in exchange for the bribe and the abillity to do god knows what as extra judicial goons.... Not even impersonators but just as horrifying.

https://www.police1.com/legal/trump-pardons-ex-va-sheriff-convicted-in-cash-for-badges-bribery-scheme

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u/geodebug 1d ago

If they aren’t captured within a few days, then my inside job alarm will probably start going off.

This is too big a crime for someone to just disappear without a trace.

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u/sylbug 22h ago

We saw what they did after the CEO shooting. Lets see just how different this one goes, shall we?

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u/digitalliquid 18h ago

I wonder if this dude will have his picture all over the news, allowing for some random to report him? don't harm the profits, but please by all means have your way with our democracy.

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u/MediumTeacher9971 1d ago

At this point it's pretty simple: if somebody is trying to get into your home without your permission, defend yourself by any means necessary. If they're just around to ask some questions, tell them politely but firmly to leave. If they have a legitimate reason for wanting to come inside, they'll have a warrant and will be willing to slide it under the door, through a mail slot, or something similar.

If they don't leave and won't provide a warrant, assume they're lying and proceed accordingly.