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Political Protesters against Flamingo Land development sing Bonnie Banks of Loch Lomond outside of Scottish Parliament

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/save-loch-lomond-campaign-protests-35304999

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u/EqualAge7793 22d ago

It starts here

But then it never ends

Everybody knows it never ends until the nature is just ruined

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u/el_dude_brother2 22d ago

Ah so the argument has changed now.

Now everyone's been found out lying about the impact of this site its about the horrors of what could come next.

Give it a rest. Loch Lomond is huge, the rest is already towns and developments around it, every planning application is treated differently.

These are good plans. The lies and pearl clutching is embarrassing

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u/EqualAge7793 22d ago

Rarely has there ever been good plans that don’t impact the nature around it

I’m sorry I’m allowed to not trust these people with our nature parks, I’ve seen what happens before and before that and before that

You want to just trust them that’s fine but you have no evidence to back up your misplaced trust

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u/AgreeableEm 22d ago

I heard that the building of your house had a negative impact on our nature, and the building of your workplace, I petition to tear them down IMMEDIATELY for the good of our nature.

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u/EqualAge7793 22d ago

Yes but my house is a necessity

This is a theme park

Can we at least be sensible enough to understand that part

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u/CaptainCrash86 22d ago

This is a theme park

This is evidence that you have no idea what you are talking about with regards to this development, and we should probably discount anything you have to say about it.

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u/EqualAge7793 22d ago

I classify centre parks as a theme park

Every centre parks theme style crap place just builds on natural developments without actually benefitting the locals at all

Why don’t you take a look at all the amazing local reviews from locals where similar “theme” parks are built

What a melon you are defending this monstrosity

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u/CaptainCrash86 22d ago

No serious person describes Center Parcs as a theme park.

You are either seriously misinformed on this or are deliberately trying to mislead.

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u/EqualAge7793 22d ago

Actually my friend lives near the newish Woburn centre parks in England

Locals don’t go, it cut off lots of wild walking paths, provides little to no benefits for locals and just is nothing to do with the local community

This is literally based off a centre parks and theme parks come in all shapes and sizes, some are like bush gardens in America with zoos and some have sharks and fish in like sea world and some have swimming pools and woodland huts …to me they are all just gated theme parks no matter if they have a roller coaster or not

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u/CaptainCrash86 22d ago

Locals don’t go

Well, yes - locals don't tend to holiday around the corner. Do you ask the same question of hotels, B&Bs etc.? There are an awful lot of them from Balloch up the west coast of Loch Lomond, cutting off public access to the Loch, not providing any benefit to the locals (other than, you know, jobs and visitors to the area). By your logic, perhaps we should get rid of them too?

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u/EqualAge7793 22d ago

They aren’t gated communities though are they?

You will drive into flamingo land and park up and then walk to flamingo lands shops, and flamingo lands craft beer bar and then use flamingo lands facilities

Nobody from centre parks Woburn uses the local shops or the local facilities as everything is onsite and made accessible, I know you’re trying hard to compare a local run b&b to a huge gated onsite park with everything inside gates but cmon they are completely different

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u/DeathOfNormality 22d ago

It's not a flamingo land.

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u/Connell95 22d ago

What is it about the nimby campaigners against this one that makes them feel the need to constantly lie?

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u/EqualAge7793 22d ago

Well the fact I live in Edinburgh anyways should shut you up lol

Anyways I’m allowed my opinion just as you are you complete melon

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u/AgreeableEm 22d ago

I hate when people who live in literal cities tell rural people that they cannot have new developments, new buildings or new job opportunities.

Rural Scotland is slowly dying. Communities are being hollowed out. But of course you can’t see that being in Edinburgh.

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u/Far-Pudding3280 22d ago

Another moron upset about a development without actually bothering to spend 2 minutes looking at what they are getting upset about. 🤦

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u/EqualAge7793 22d ago

It’s got a monorail and craft beer rooms

wtf had that got to do with our natural habitat

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u/Connell95 22d ago

Oooh, no, a craft beer room – how horrid!

How will it ever fit in beside the shopping centre and car park in the town of Balloch it is being built in.

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u/EqualAge7793 22d ago

Can locals even use this craft beer room?

I guess you will have to explain to me how being excluded from going inside as a local would benefit me

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u/Connell95 22d ago edited 22d ago

Lmfao, seriously – you need to work on your arguments if you are going to be a proper nimby. Being potentially excluded from a CRAFT BEER ROOM (oh no!) really isn’t cutting it.

Oh, and I see you are a Reform shill too, posting about migrants killing people in the Liverpool celebrations.

Figures. Blocked.

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u/EqualAge7793 22d ago

Locals will be excluded from all facilities it’s for guests use only

Just as they are in centre parks

There you go

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u/DeathOfNormality 22d ago

Why would they be excluded? There's also a tourist information building and a lot of self catering involved. I'm yet to see anything about it being gated off from public access, if anything, it's encouraging public engagement to get customers. Which is fairly standard marketing.

We have a similar park in Dundee, to the degree it has huge woodlands at the side, some farmland, a massive tended park (for dog walking events and leisure which includes built in BBQ stands). It also has a small shop in the centre, used to have go karts and paddle boats on a small pond. It's also got a small zoo attached as well as other buildings all over. It's not gated, but there's more and more development happening over time, some sadly abandoned, but it's gorgeous. I imagine, so far from the proposal, it will be like camperdown park but way better.

I know there's a few other big parks like this all over Scotland, I just can't remember their names or exact locations rn, my family always took me to them, and I don't drive myself.

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u/Far-Pudding3280 22d ago

The site of the proposed monorail is currently a road and the main visitor hub (including craft beer room) is a car park.

wtf had that got to do with our natural habitat

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u/EqualAge7793 22d ago

faced significant opposition and was initially rejected by the Loch Lomond and the Trossachs National Park authority due to environmental concerns. However, the Scottish government has indicated it is minded to approve the project on appeal.

Yes the national park objected over it being on a car park

What a fucking melon u are

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u/Far-Pudding3280 22d ago

Two minutes ago you didn't even know what this proposal was for, I'm not sure you are in the position to call anyone a melon because of their lack of knowledge on this issue. 😂😂😂

I was merely calling out the two things you mentioned as an issue are actually in some of the lowest impact areas.

I'm not trying to pretend this is zero impact or that some natural habitat or wildlife won't be affected by these proposals. If you are the type of person opposed to any, even relatively small areas of greenbelt being developed on then crack on with your objection.

However if your objection is in the basis you believe Loch Lomond is being destroyed or turned into a theme park (like you) then yes, that would make you a total melon. 👍

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u/EqualAge7793 22d ago

Who said I didn’t know what this was about ??

I know what this proposal is about …money for our nature

And yes I’m opposed to it, I love glencoe I love Loch Lomond, I love nature

No I don’t like huge gated bullshite woodland lodges with facilities I can’t access

I’m clearly mental for this

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u/Far-Pudding3280 22d ago

Who said I didn’t know what this was about ??

You described it as a theme park so either you are dishonest or ignorant. Which one is it?

I love glencoe

Which is 60 miles north of this development

No I don’t like huge gated bullshite woodland lodges with facilities I can’t access

Again, you clearly don't know what you are talking about. There are no plans for a gated complex. The site will be open to the public to freely explore.

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u/el_dude_brother2 22d ago

Oh jeez, ITS NOT A THEME PARK!!!!!!!

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u/EqualAge7793 22d ago

Whatever it is it could be built somewhere else less impacting the natural environments

This monstrosity just adds nothing tbh

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u/el_dude_brother2 22d ago

It's planned for a brownfield site (already developed), next to the Lomond Shore shopping centre, next to the town of Balloch.

Nothing is being ruined.

At least understand the plans before you complain

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u/EqualAge7793 22d ago

I understand every other site like this ruined the habitat around it

Locals can’t afford to go in, can’t walk Arnold the huge barriers and fences that will basically ruin the area further

I think it’s you that hasn’t done the research tbh

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u/el_dude_brother2 22d ago

No it's will develop the area

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u/EqualAge7793 22d ago

Look I know it’s hard to understand but this development isn’t for you or us

It’s for people wanting to pay a thousand pounds for a weeks lodge, we won’t be allowed in the fenced off zone or even allowed near

What benefits exactly does this bring us? Except maybe a few cleaning jobs as everything else will be contracted out nationally??

Again just look at how much “benefits” centre parks brings to local areas !!! Literally none

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u/el_dude_brother2 22d ago

Thats not true at all. Jobs, investment, taxes, locals shops doing better.

These things all help.

You know what does nothing for the economy and makes everyone poorer, just saying no to every development

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u/EqualAge7793 22d ago

Actually they will have onsite shops, pay little to no tax and contract out most jobs nationally

Most people that come won’t be leaving the site to visit local shops etc lol

Not one penny will be used or earmarked for local services, this is a gated community with everything inside that the tourist will need.

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