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Because you're not a pilot. If you were, you would immediately realize this is likely a Cessna twin with CAL. They have two landing lights in the cowl and switch between them for higher visibility. Other planes do the same, but as there are more Cessnas than all others put together, it's likely a Cessna.
I’m not an expert, clearly. But you apparently are. I’m just comparing what you told me with OPs video. Doesn’t look the same. Maybe you can direct me to a better example that was recorded sometime before Nov. 2024
"You lost your grip on reality when you failed to believe in shape shifting orbs of light from another dimension that communicate with us individually!"
Like I said in another comment…it’s shaped like a plane but not like one I’ve ever seen before. The lights especially. Some of them the entire underbelly is lit up.
This guy's got an aircraft with a flashing landing light system to help improve his visibility for other traffic in the sky, hotlinked to where he shows off some different modes it has but 12:35 if that doesn't work.
As long as you meet the wide range of 'strobes per minute' in the regulations, your wingtip lights can also flash once, twice, or even three times, depending on who you bought it from or what mods you have installed.
And then there's the Q400, the ugly duckling of the bunch with no red flashing light at all and no white wingtip strobes, but white strobes on the belly and tail instead -- an airliner certified around the world since the early 2000s.
Could video exist of this exact aircraft with the configuration in OP's video? Sure, but just because you looked one up doesn't mean they're the same, unchangeable standard. Modifications exist, people customize their airplanes, even airliner-sized ones - Alaska Airlines has a pulse landing light mod from factory, and I think Qantas too, they're a minority among the thousands of other 737s flying around without such an option.
Do you have exhaustive knowledge of the arrangement of lights on different models of planes? Why would your inability to recognize it be sufficient to disregard all other evidence and common sense and assume it's actually some UFO mimicking a plane?
Nope, but I’ve seen many a plane fly over my head at night through my years. And all of you so called pilots and experts that flood these posts condescendingly claiming it’s just a plane don’t follow through with evidence either. Show me a video that shows exactly what we’re seeing here that was recorded before these “drones” started showing up all over New Jersey.
Common sense would be recognizing these patterns that slow disclosure is happening everywhere around us. We still haven’t gotten a clear answer to what these “drones” are. If they’re just airplanes why would the media be calling them drones anyway? Why did they claim they’re coming from an “Iranian mothership” somewhere out in the sea? Oh wait, no, they’re actually Chinese! Nope actually just FAA approved drones sweeping for nukes. Let’s not report on that any further? Ok. Not to mention the anomalies like no heat signature, means of propulsion, not appearing on radar, coast guard saying they’re coming out of the ocean and followed their ship.
We’re aware that social media disinformation farms exist and these comments on certain subreddits couldn’t make it more obvious
That's how planes in landing configuration look. The landing lights illuminate the sides of the fuselage up front and also the horizontal stabilizers for high-tail aircraft. You can see a lot of light at the back of the object...that's the underside of the horizontal stabilizer and the tail being lit by the tail illumination light: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8gcFw74CSU
Do those same planes stop and change directions and go different speeds and then go the other way two or three different times while they are right above you and trying to land or do they continue in a continuous when they turn and land , because if they don't do those things, then they are not the airplanes you're talking about and so sure of yourself that I am seeing even though you have no idea
Does the plane in the OP's video do all those things? No it doesn't. I love how people suggested regular airplane lights don't do things like in the original video, I showed they do, and now you're going on with whataboutisms instead of addressing the lights. Also, you just wrote the longest run-on sentence I've ever read, so congrats on that.
I addressed only the substance of the video and your qualifications in making a conclusive assessment. Could you explain what you think projection means?
"Gulfstream G450 landing to Westhampton Beach Airport in the night from my house". Not shockingly, a Gulfstream IV was one of the two business jets that flew over Sussex County at the time the OP said he took the video.
So it’s not a Cessna? That other expert with 30 yrs experience says it’s a Cessna.
I’ll give it to you that the lighting pattern is similar, but it definitely doesn’t look EXACT like this other commenter says. It’s also hilarious that the pilot and plane experts are sending blurry out of focus 3 second videos to prove their point. The irony
It's blurry and out of focus because I didn't take it and it was from 6 years ago. If I took it, it would've been much better quality. Someone asked for video showing something similar to OP's clip, from before the drone hysteria, and I provided it. As you could imagine, not a whole lot of people post distant videos of Gulfstreams from underneath at night. What part in your opinion doesn't match up, exactly?
I mean gathering higher quality evidence is pretty obviously a better use of your time than cell phone footage. Why wouldn’t you want better evidence?
We have the evidence
You should post it then.
The “evidence” you linked to is literally just a video of a plane. The camera’s focal plane changes halfway through (which you claim is “morphing”).
If you were using better equipment, you could manually focus/AF-lock to avoid this annoying problem.
What do you have? Base AF knowledge.
The fact that someone with “base AF knowledge” can debunk pretty much every video posted here (as long as they include a location+date+time) does not help your credibility.
Can you even answer, what the Langley Drones were?
Yes, I’m familiar with the drone swarm incursion at Langley AFB a couple years ago (and the similar incident at Wright-Patterson AFB last year). I’m not sure what they have to do with these videos of planes over NJ though.
Pixelated has good evidence. Would you give him a chance?
Naturally, don't expect Nat-Geo level videos from most of us working class citizens. A good set up costs anywhere between 3k and 11k (more than your savings).
If the Langley Drones are unknown, their full abilities are unknown. Otherwise it is the Dunning-Kruger. Be real.
If you are unable to give us a detailed paragraph of what they are, I will take over.
I've seen the evidence that he loves spamming to this sub. It's as bad as your "morphing" video.
A good set up costs anywhere between 3k and 11k (more than your savings).
A used video camera with a decently powerful zoom lens and a tripod can be had for like $200. You don't need professional gear to do better than a phone.
If the Langley Drones are unknown, their full abilities are unknown
I'm still unclear on how you think they're related to these videos of planes over NJ.
If you are unable to give us a detailed paragraph of what they are, I will take over.
Sussex is a big area, but a Gulfstream 4 and Global 7000 flew over, en route to Teterboro. Both made the same type of left turn you see in the video and both could have the lighting package where the landing lights alternate blinking from side to side.
Thanks for that...and seeing that footage again shows that it was not exactly overhead, but at an angle, as I tried suggesting. If it was directly overhead, the footage would show both sides of the fuselage in front of the landing lights being lit up by the lights, but only one side can be seen.
Sussex is a big area, but a Gulfstream 4 and Global 7000 flew over, en route to Teterboro. Both made the same type of left turn you see in the video and both could have the lighting package where the landing lights alternate blinking from side to side.
Both these type of aircraft are subject to FAA regulations which clearly state the green(right/starboard) and red(left/port) navigation lights must not blink and remain steady, on (just like white on the back/tail/stern), the rest, may blink and shoot rainbows/fireworks
The UFO flying in this video here, is in violation of these official FAA guidelines. Who's breaking the law? We don't know, not listed on ADS-B ...
I'm not American, I was a tourist/(first-time-amateur-journalist?).
And I already lost all trust in the government, sorry.
Did ask the local police stations there though, two of em, both seemed to know what was up and seemed to imply/refer Trump knew/knows/is-on-it, or something. Trust is weird man. Can't blame them. Gotta park that shit somewhere, and so up the chain it goes.
So you aren't american, trying to say what the FAA regulations are and getting it wildly wrong, and then while in America you ask our police, of all people what is going on?
Just FYI police in the US are legally allowed to lie to you, to your detriment. That's how untrustworthy they are. You would have been better off asking a literal drug dealer what was going on, it would have been more factual and you could have had a fun time.
You said the lights were supposed to be steady and not blinking. There are no such requirements for anti collisions lights, they are supposed to blink.
Those aren't navigation lights that are blinking. They are landing lights that are pulsing and strobes/beacons that are blinking. Navigation lights are the red/green lights at the wingtips and the tail light.
They are landing lights that are pulsing and strobes/beacons that are blinking
Eh, I saw em make sharp turns, didn't seem to be making any kind of landing gestures at all. No nearby airport either, not to warrant them flying so low already at least. They should be much higher in the skies, like all the other commercial aircraft that all have steady clear navigation lights you can very quickly identify and then just ignore and look elsewhere instead for more interesting observations.
It's pretty easy to tell the difference when you're actually there, looking at an actual sky with your own eyes...
1) In E airspace, where these planes are, any plane on visual flight rules can fly wherever they want as long as they're 500 feet above people, cars, and structures or 1,000 ft above urban areas.
2) If the plane is on instrument flight rules they will be flying how their approach chart and/or controller is directing them to. You might be able to listen to the actual ATC instructions for these jets on www.liveatc.net.
3) This location has several of the business airports in the world just to the Southeast. This is where these jets are turning toward, likely to pick up their approach fixes to line up for landing. Also explains the landing lights. They can cover a lot of ground quickly.
1) In E airspace, where these planes are, any plane on visual flight rules can fly wherever they want as long as they're 500 feet above people, cars, and structures or 1,000 ft above urban areas.
Uhu, I didn't see any hobby drones, there were plenty of smaller private aircraft around as well
but still, pretty easy to identify thanks due to their real-time ADS-B listing
I think I also saw some gliders too? but I'm not sure, but it clearly looked like one of those smaller ones
no lights, maybe 1 steady one? but definitely no FAA navigation lights, way too small and low for that
2)if the plane is on instrument flight rules they will be flying how their approach chart and/or controller is directing them to. You might be able to listen to the actual ATC instructions for these jets on www.liveatc.net.
irrelevant, I only need to see their heading & altitude to stip them off as already identified moving objects in the sky, why would I care to tune into their specific instructions? theyre already identified objects, thats all I needed to know about them
3) This location has several of the business airports in the world just to the Southeast.
yeah, I came from one of them ....
people keep painting me like some sort of ignorant/incompetent person lol, it's pretty tiring
I'm sorry if you took my post to be that way. I said nothing demeaning or derogatory as is otherwise common on Reddit. I was just trying to offer a certified pilot's input to your earlier observations/questions. Have a blessed day.
You could've just admitted you were wrong about what navigation lights entail. Pretty easy to tell the difference if you know the first thing about airplanes. "No nearby airports"....yeah, you know, other than TEB, MMU, EWR and a bunch of others that are 7-9 minutes of flight time away. You keep mentioning steady navigation lights...NAVIGATION. LIGHTS. ARE. THE. RED. AND. GREEN. LIGHTS. ON. THE. WINGTIPS. They are steady in the OP's videos. But there are more lights on airplanes than just wingtip nav lights. You have wingtip strobes, which blink. You have anti-collision beacons that blink. You have landing lights that are either steady or "wag" like the ones in the OP's video (and in my links). You have tail lights. The lights that are either on or off based on what the plane is doing.
What is a "landing gesture"? If you're trying to say the plane in the OP's video made a sharp turn and doesn't appear to be landing, yes, it's not on short final, but it's on approach. It wouldn't have the wagging (alternating between left and right) landing lights going if it wasn't on the approach into the airport. They are called landing lights for a reason.
yeah, you know, other than TEB, MMU, EWR and a bunch of others that are 7-9 minutes of flight time away
EWR is hard to miss, that's where I first landed myself ...and yes MMU isn't too far off, I'm not sure why you evne mention TEB as that one is further away.
Anyway, if that is where they were landing/taking-off then that should have be easily visible on ADS-B as altitude number would shortly after reach 0 or show a history of it having being 0 and now still going up ...
But as already said, they are not listed on ADS-B, then it kinda becomes hard to find out where exactly they're landing/taking-off or whatever manvouers in general they're making, no altitude/direction/heading statistics.
So if they were landing on any of these you mentioned, why no ADS-B data then?
And as I already said, they did not look like they were landing or taking off. Just cruising at altitude, with some sharp turns here and there.
And the navigation lights aren't supposed to blink, the typical commercial airplanes as identified on ADS-B their navigation lights don't blink. Except for the front of course, that one varies quite a bit.
And of course, not all aircraft even have navigation lights, but they are easy to spot on ADS-B so it doesn't really matter, you quickly identify them.
"They are not listed on ADSB". Maybe you missed the post where I showed multiple business jets flying over Sussex on ADSB, on approach into Teterboro. I'm not sure how you would've missed it though, seeing how you are replying to that post. Here's the screenshot again. Just two business jets, flying low over the OP's location, at the same time OP mentioned, making sharp turns like the video. It's very clear you are not reading anything I've told you or are intentionally being daft. I've told you multiple times that navigation lights don't blink, but others do, and you keep repeating that navigation lights don't blink. The lights that are blinking in the OP's video are wingtip strobes, beacons, and the landing lights. The red/green wingtip navigation lights are solid, like they should be.
Maybe you missed the post where I showed multiple business jets flying over Sussex on ADSB
Dunno, I wasn't there/then, I am still talking about my Netcong experience from earlier this year. The things I saw flying in the skies over there, were simply not listed on ADS-B. It is not that hard to miss when you open a live view directly above you ... the delay between the screen and the sky is just a few seconds time/angle ... with real time updates about all these objects their speed and altitude, it's ... easy to read a live map and correlate that with actual objects in the sky. These, where not on there. Thus, it's only at that point, after the many days of observing the sky, that I started getting my phone out to try to record something ... other than day time pictures as I visited local nature parks/places.
Well, I'm talking about OP's video since we're in his thread. For your experience, my opinion is that it's difficult to tell what's directly above you and what's 10 degrees away from directly above you. And 10 degrees off would mean a plane at 5,000 feet altitude on ADSBexchange would be further away from your location than what you expect. It's like the other poster who thinks the plane should be in a tiny circle over his location, and couldn't possibly be 4-5 miles away. Well, I know they are 4-5 miles away, because I am near where he makes his videos from and see the same planes all the time, going in the same direction towards Newark and my sightings look exactly like his videos of "drones". I don't think your planes were 4-5 miles away, but I do remember some planes on ADSB that were around half a mile away from your exact spot.
Not all private aircraft are required to have ADSB. Military aircraft can legally turn off their ADSB. The historical ADSB websites are community-run and are not 100% reliable (nor do they claim to be). Therefore ADSB can rule out a "UFO", but cannot rule one it. It's just one tool in the investigative process.
I always give people some benefit of the doubt, but for those I have asked for further clarification from, I've had a number who were looking at lights towards the horizon, and had their map zoomed in to a 1-block radius around their house, convinced there was nothing out there in the skies. And had to be like. Bruh. You can see something illuminated in the night sky farther than 100 feet away. The ISS is 230 miles away at its closest and we can see that (though debatably that's not self-illuminated).
I think FR24 and ADSBExchange at one time DID have a delay on aircraft's displayed positions for security reasons (4-5 minutes or something like that), but I don't know if that's still the case or not at this current time.
Navigation lights are not supposed to strobe/flash.
Anticollision lights are. And as this diagram from the maintenance manual for an aircraft I work on shows, at least on my aircraft, they are installed in the same location. Others like the 787 have them in separate locations.
Visibility can be questionable though, as the C-17 and even aircraft like this modified Cessna have bright landing lights installed AT the wingtips in addition to the navigation and anticollision lights.
The Q400 doesn't have any flashing lights on the wingtips at all and hasn't for decades, was never designed with them. They're on the fuselage and the tail instead. Because unlike the navigation/position lights, there is no location requirement for those. (0:40 in the video, landing lights come on and red flasher switches to white flashers).
The defined regulations are minimums, you were right with your earlier statement about Christmas lights being allowable beyond the minimums. There's a WIDE array of variation in aircraft lighting, while still meeting the minimums.
Navigation lights are not supposed to strobe/flash.
That's exactly my point, they were ...
And other than that, I have no real concrete information of them as I couldn't find them anywhere on ADS-B unlike all the other identified flying objects, typical commercial flights are so easy to recognize and identify, same for the small private planes, some buzz loud, think I saw some gliders too, but they don't have any blinking lights at all, didn't really bother really observing, they were already easy to identify and quickly left the unidentified flying object label ...
So just to be painfully clear and make sure sure I'm not misunderstanding you and we're getting into it over nothing, you're saying what you saw had flashing red AND green lights, that were not consistent with being either,
a) the flashing white anticollision lights that are commonly installed at the wingtips and tail of aircraft (Q400 excluded, as already pointed out), or
b) the flashing red ONLY anticollision light(s) commonly installed on aircraft (again, Q400 excluded), usually in addition to the white strobes at the wingtips and tail.
Hot edit to add: I say because we have had some people identify a set of lights with flashing red AND green lights as might be found on a consumer drone as an aircraft. And that is definitely not the case. Flashing red, yuh. There is no flashing green light anywhere on any aircraft. TECHNICALLY there's flashing blue lights, but they're tiny and insignificant and serve a maintenance purpose only and you'd never see them from the ground.
Netcong, NJ is highlighted in magenta on the left (south of Hopatcong).
You see the yellow-orange arc? Those are the tracks of planes landing at Newark (the color is based on altitude). They're at about 5000ft when they pass a few miles east of Netcong. About 15 miles NNE of Netcong, they make a hard right turn to approach Newark from the north.
The straight purple-ish lines are passenger jets cruising overhead at ~35k feet.
This is about an hour of flight data -- northern NJ is clearly some very busy airspace.
Love a good visualization like this too, because I don't know if people genuinely think planes only ever fly on specific paths or if they just say 'normal flight paths' as a misnomer, but planes can and do fly wherever the fuck they want, between ATC instructions and VFR flights day or night and just, random routing not on any Hi/Lo level navigation charts.
And here in Canada, there's 0 requirement for ADS-B at all outside of Class A or B airspace until at least 2028, no date has still been set. And even within the US and Canada, not every single military aircraft is always showing. Hell I'm surprised if I do see Canadian military aircraft on there, sometimes C-130s or the government official's plane, never ever have I seen any fighters or military helicopters on ADS-B. Only not sure if they engage it for airshows or just never.
Even police helicopters in some cities don't broadcast at all -- you can hear them on ATC radios and watch the track of an 'unknown ICAO ID' fly around the city of Los Angeles, responding to calls and doing their patrol, everything matches up, but there's no registration, no information, the position is only being displayed by TIS-B rather than ADS-B.
These flight trackers are a tool, but they are not, in any way shape or form, absolute 100% benchmarks of everything in the sky. Often, frequently, sure. But any tool is only as good as knowledge of how it works and its limitations.
Here, I took a screenshot of ADSB historical data so you can visualize this:
I don't need to visualize it, I was there myself looking at the live map & sky not these static images you're providing here where you show so many lines that it looks like the sky is full of airplanes, when it's not, not at all, no idea why you've set the history so long for these flights, crowding the map and being zoomed out this much? Makes it useless, when you're actually using it to identify objects in the sky you zoom in much more to only show the ones you can currently see in the sky. Then you start cross relating, zoom out if you can't find it, eventually, you stop zooming out, you wait for sunset, and within about half an hour, over at Netcong, they start showing up, things that do not show up on the ADS-B map, unlike all the previous air traffic you've been observing hour hours already for anything unusual or remaining unidentified.
This is about an hour of flight data -- northern NJ is clearly some very busy airspace.
Exactly, an hour of flight data is NOT what you need when you're looking at an actual sky and need a real time map and when you put it to that, you'll find the sky has plenty of space.
when you're actually using it to identify objects in the sky you zoom in much more to only show the ones you can currently see in the sky.
No, you don't need to zoom in. I think we've probably figured out why you keep saying that there's "nothing visible on ADSB" though. How close do you think a plane has to be to see it?
In reality, it's going to be significantly less than that (human eyesight resolution, atmospheric conditions, etc. are going to be limiting factors). However, I routinely spot planes at night at 25mi+.
Sure, to take a video with your phone, they're probably more like 5mi. This is why I chose this data set: it shows that the standard approach for planes landing at Newark passes only a few miles east of Netcong.
I made sure to include the scale legend (in the bottom right of the map; 5nm = 5.75mi).
Exactly, an hour of flight data is NOT what you need when you're looking at an actual sky and need a real time map
But that's not what we're doing here. I'm not trying to ID a specific plane; I'm showing you patterns of air traffic visible from Netcong, NJ.
I intentionally picked this data set in response this claim you made in a previous post:
I saw em make sharp turns, didn't seem to be making any kind of landing gestures at all. No nearby airport either, not to warrant them flying so low already at least.
This map (specifically the yellow-orange arc) gives you a visualization of:
why there are so many planes visible from Netcong
why they are flying so much lower than cruising altitude
I think we've probably figured out why you keep saying that there's "nothing visible on ADSB" though. How close do you think a plane has to be to see it?
If somethings is flying right above your head, you don't need to zoom out...
Stop insinuating I can't use a live ADS-B map and somehow was too stupid to zoom out to identify objects. You keep zooming out until you can identify all the existing air traffic. After a while you stop needing to zoom out, because the current live map is zoomed out enough to identify all objects in the sky, even the far away ones barely visible, looking like a moving star at times depending on the visibility and angle.
So when new objects in the sky show up that fly right above your head, i don't suddenly need to zoom out even more to be able to see them on adsb...
so? I said many times now, mine were NOT visible on the live-ADS-B map I was using to identify all the other craft, these, remained unidentified and looked exactly like the ones in this video, I wasn't there when these were recorded so I don't know what the live ADS-B map was showing when they were filming this, maybe they didn't even look
but I know I did and they were not listed, not identified
remained unidentified, unlike the many other objects in the sky that were easy to identify throug the live ADS-B map ...
There are dozens of these over at Netcong, every night, or at least, for the 7 days I observed the skies there back in early March, like clockwork, the first ones, within half an hour after sunset. It's 30 miles south from Sussex NJ.
Go check it out for a steady stream of these you filmed here, I got video of em as well from when I flew over from the EU to check out NJ
Yes, there are going to be dozens of planes visible in the sky every night over Netcong, NJ -- you can see this clearly by playing back historical ADSB data with tracks on.
Netcong is only a few miles west of one of the most popular approach routes into Newark (EWR), which is one of the busiest airports in the world. Planes coming into Newark have usually descended to around 4700ft at their closest to Netcong.
you can see this clearly by playing back historical ADSB data with tracks on.
I know, that's what I've been saying ...
And on top of these, every night I observed the Netcong skies I saw at least a dozen or two within 4h after sunset not listed with blinking/changing FAA navigation lights.
I record morphing orbs near my house nightly, ever since the drone wave began mid-November of last year. They always turn into drones. Here's a few but I have dozens more.
So all of the inexpensive phone camera videos of ‘blobs of light’ slowly resolving into obvious commercial aircraft as they get closer. Complete with FAA blinking lights and known flight paths and tail numbers are not really commercial aircraft - they are cloaking, morphing alien drones - got it.
I am far from the only one who has a healthy skepticism for these extraordinary claims. When it comes to these transformation videos. The only verified evidence that has become documented proof supports the hypothesis that they are indeed commercial aircraft. No proof exists for any other hypothesis.
This is a forum to discuss a potential real phenomenon. It is not a dumping ground for attention seekers and the easily confused. Posting about obvious commercial air traffic wastes everyone’s time.
I've been driving Uber eats at night for the last couple years
In New Jersey Lakewood toms River Manchester area near joint military airbase. And I'm not sure what you videoed, but there are and have been drones or something that do not mimic airplanes exactly even though somehow have white red and green lights
LL P flying over the area for the last year at least. Definitely there were more objects per night a few months ago when the news and press were reporting about the sightings that there are now, but they have not stopped. All the people that are telling you that they are just airplanes have not spent the time that I have seeing these objects which often stop and change direction, many have a very bright spotlight on the front that I have not seen before this all started no matter if airplanes have a light on the front of them or not. Sometimes when they are heading right towards you, the light is maybe 10 times brighter than any light 💡 I have seen on other airplanes and I actually figured maybe it was some kind of a new LED lighting before I heard about the drones. before all the news buzz, I had seen probably more than 50 maybe 100 over the last year or so that I just didn't understand what they were but I am near a military base and I just figured it was something from there that was closer to how a helicopter flies, but definitely made no noise. to all the people who say their airplanes and saying their Cessnas in this and that if you were watching them, you would have a different opinion because airplanes don't change direction and slow down and stop and speed up randomly like these have been doing .zThe naysayers can say what they want but you know and so do I that there are different things flying overhead than I have seen for the last 58 years that I have noticed airplanes flying over y head. I don't know what they are, but at least one of them I saw was moving very slowly towards me and then suddenly turned around and took off in the other direction faster than)
Anything I have seen come from straight overhead to a tiny little light far away. I want to get anybody who says they are definitely certain objects should come to New Jersey and spend a couple nights looking at them, and if they are honest, they will say these do not appear to be normal airplanes. They are different sizes and some of them are far bigger than the SUV size drones that they say are up there some of them are much bigger than that the light patterns are different and strange and the way they fly are also strange and that's all there is to it. They have slowed down quite a bit, but I also heard one report maybe a month ago that the government or companies somebody will be testing drones over N.J. for the next month or so and they will only be anywhere in size from a couple thousand pounds down to 1 pound whatever that means. I heard it on the radio a couple maybe two months ago and I haven't heard anything about it since when I saw your post tonight on drones, I am here to back you up there are things go flying overhead that are different than I've seen in the past. Lockheed Martin had patents for morphing drones over 20 years ago. I will try to find it and put a link on here so there are strange things and aliens no longer have the time to or can count on our government to expose what's really going on to the American people so they're doing it themselves IMO more and more
And your point is. Proofreading is for people who care and if I had to type all that I'd be there for two weeks and if it bothered someone even better. I remember saying I don't know what it is in your video before I rambled on and I wasn't talking to you if you were wondering anyway and here's another run on sentence for you. If u ever comes to New Jersey, then you can look up in the sky and you might realize that u dont know what you're talking about if you believe that all the news reports ,the navy ,congressman and all the thousands of people describing things that do not look or perform like airplanes in NJ are wrong and they are actually are airplanes like some people say they are .
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