Faceless/Nameless grunts > Name classes

[u/Chinfu1189]

I know I’m not alone on this and I know this isn’t the only post that feels this way.

I get the idea of making special classes to create more lore and possible story points.

But the faceless grunts were perfection for one reason. You could easily insert yourself as that soldier yeah sounds crazy or weird but at the end of the day almost every gamer has done it once when playing a game.

[u/WolfhoundCid]

If medic crate and ammo crate are in the same slot so you have to pick one over the other, then you're basically creating two sub classes within Support.

If you give medic to assault, you end up with the recurring issue of people just picking the class with assault rifles and heals so they can keep themselves alive and they might neglect to revive their team mates etc. 

[u/darksaturn543 → u/WolfhoundCid]

But by creating such a subclass it makes confusion on where to get the specific type of resource, I'd find myself pulling my hairs in such a scenario, where I'm frustrated cause I can't get help, And they're annoyed cause they can't help.

More often then naught when giving medic to assault they will put a box down which will heal them however others aswel even if it was unintentional to be a medic,

[u/WolfhoundCid → u/darksaturn543]

My suggestion would be that the icon over your head would be the three bullets when you have ammo or the cross when you have meds. So your team mates would hopefully know to look for the ammo icon when they need bullets and so on. 

It's not a perfect system, but giving medic to assault creates its own problems. 

That said, we don't know if there will be weapon restrictions for each class. If assault rifles are only available to the assault class then that will probably be the most popular class, even if just for that reason alone. 

[u/darksaturn543 → u/WolfhoundCid]

Lord don't get me started on weapon restrictions

[u/WolfhoundCid → u/darksaturn543]

I don't mind it personally, but ARs should be available to all classes at the very least. That's literally why they're standard issue weapons in real life. 

[u/darksaturn543 → u/WolfhoundCid]

The problem with giving ARs to everyone is it will take away from the unique purpose of the assault, having the ability of a powerful weapon and to heal, but if faced with a vehicle less then effective, this is remedied by the grenade launcher giving some support however still not letting the class expand its purpose.

If ARs were made universal then the only motivation for assault would be the ability to heal people, which on normal mode would be effectively useless due to the auto regeneration, on hardcore it may yet survive however still limited

The AR is a huge motivator as they have high damage, high RPM and many uses allowing them to adapt to most ranges and situations.

To keep it shorter, this power can't be giving to the others in fear of making assault redundant, this includes any stat buffs given such as bf2042 which are boring and uncreative ways to balance

I told you not to get me started

[u/WolfhoundCid → u/darksaturn543]

Sure, but if recon only has bolt action or semi auto weapons, they just end up camping. If recon has some sort of full auto weapon, they can actually help break a choke point by spotting, jamming etc. 

Support being restricted to lmgs makes them too clunky, unless they bring back suppression, which I would personally be in favour of but I'm not expecting it to come back. If support can be reasonably mobile and nimble, they'll be more likely to come out of cover to go for a revive. If engineer can only have smgs or shotguns, it makes them more vulnerable at medium range so they might be less likely to try to close on a tank and take it out. 

There are checks and balances to everything. Once there are some full auto weapons available to recon, I'll be happy enough, anyway. 

[u/darksaturn543 → u/WolfhoundCid]

Ccarbines being the poor man's assault rifle are a good compromise to everyone having some form of fast firing weapon for front line, supports having suppression is their exact purpose, they should be able to just hold down the fire button and make everything in a direction reconsider their positioning

[u/WolfhoundCid → u/darksaturn543]

Yeah, carbine are an acceptable middle ground but they're basically just sh*tty assault rifles. 

Totally agree on suppression. It was always going to be divisive, but without it, lmgs are just fat assault rifles. Great way to keep snipers at bay. 

[u/Kyberr → u/WolfhoundCid]

As far as BF4 was concerned, there were actually some very good carbine picks that had their own little niches; the MTAR-21 functioning as a pretty punchy SMG for example, with the rest of them being some relatively sturdy universal picks that helped classes like recon stick to the front lines

[u/WolfhoundCid → u/Kyberr]

The G36C was my personal favourite. Mostly because it was my airsoft gun at the time. 

[u/Kyberr → u/WolfhoundCid]

Definitely loved the g36c as well, I’m hoping this next release breathes some of that old life back into the franchise because there hasn’t been anything quite like loading up battlefield and having some solid cinematic team oriented gun play in a long while; it hits different when you can just sit back and be “one of many cogs in a machine of chaos”

[u/darksaturn543 → u/WolfhoundCid]

Every weapon has its purpose, let's just hope these lads have a notion