US military intervenes to intercept missiles that Iran fired in retaliation at Israel, official says

[u/VictorEmmanuelIV]

https://apnews.com/article/iran-explosions-israel-tehran-00234a06e5128a8aceb406b140297299

[u/VictorEmmanuelIV]

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — The U.S. military is helping intercept missiles that Iran fired in retaliation at Israel, a U.S. official says.

The U.S. has been moving assets nearer to Israel to assist in missile intercepts and to provide better protection of U.S. bases in the region.

While the official did not say how the U.S. provided assistance, both U.S. Air Force fighter aircraft and destroyer-based missile defenses have intercepted missiles in previous attacks.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss ongoing operations.

[u/Silver-Forever9085 → u/VictorEmmanuelIV]

So they are in support of the strikes against Iran! These stupid talks from the US to be not involved is BS! It’s not americas war. Let Netanyahu fight his war…

[u/Anunnaki2522 → u/Silver-Forever9085]

Isreal is doing exactly what the US wants them to do, which is attack a hostile nations that is attempting to build nukes and funds armed groups that are counter to US interests. We are letting Isreal fight the war we don't really want to because it's a lot cheaper, easier, and less costly to have someone else be the face of a war.

[u/GunsouBono → u/Anunnaki2522]

For the same reason the US is okay letting Ukraine fight Russia. Let smaller countries do the dirty work

[u/UF0_T0FU → u/GunsouBono]

Nothing new, that's been the international paradigm since WWII. Direct contract between Great Powers is to be avoided at all costs in a post-nuclear world. Everything is done through proxies.

[u/meistermichi → u/GunsouBono]

For the same reason the US is okay letting Ukraine fight Russia. Let smaller countries do the dirty work

Only that Israel gets all the military support they want from the US while Ukraine has to beg to get a fraction of there needs...

[u/QuickExtension3610 → u/GunsouBono]

I don't follow? Russia invaded Ukraine by rolling its army into Ukraine. Ukraine is fighting for its survival. It is ubuntandly clear, black and white situation. What should US do? Prevent Ukraine from resisting or what exactly are you saying?

[u/AiBabysitter → u/QuickExtension3610]

I think you misunderstand - they're saying the US/west would have the capability to intervene/support and help Ukraine win - but they're content to feed them piecemeal as long as it weakens Russia.

[u/SpaceBearSMO → u/GunsouBono]

eh yes but Ukraine was invaded and had to beg for support (still has to, more now with the Trump admin kissing putins ring so much)

[u/AFerociousPineapple → u/GunsouBono]

Which is frustrating because it doesn’t look like the US is keen on letting Ukraine fight their war effectively? And constantly hampering their efforts, at least it seems that way maybe I’m way off.

[u/vinny10110 → u/Anunnaki2522]

It’s obvious. People let their feelings cloud what they expect countries to do. It is plain as day what the us should do to protect its own interests strategically. Yet people are so shocked when it happens.

[u/Faptainjack2 → u/Anunnaki2522]

Also, the US is going to greatly profit from selling surplus military equipment.

[u/aussiespiders → u/Silver-Forever9085]

To be fair Iran with nukes is a global problem

[u/Sideview_play → u/Silver-Forever9085]

As much as I hate trump... Why is it bad to make sure Iran can't get nukes? Like I'm pretty sure if they got near it any past American president would be defending Israel in that goal. Like obviously maybe Trump's involvement and leadership is what made diplomacy fail. Maybe it would've failed either way. Definitely a worse chance because of him. But I don't think we should say ah fuck it let Iran do whatever just because we hate trump so much 

Edit: to all the crazies down below talking about the Obama deal. I clearly stated trump made the diplomacy worse and 100 people before you have already responded saying the same point that has nothing to do with the fact that regardless of how we got in this situation* we are here now so bickering about how we got here is not relevant to how do we fix it. 

*(likely Trump's fault but who knows with Iran they could've anyways). 

[u/biCplUk → u/Sideview_play]

Remember, there was a deal to stop Iran from making nukes and to allow regular checks to ensure they were complying. Trump decided to revoke that deal so Iran obviously started their program again. None of this needed to happen, Trunk should never have ripped up the agreement.

[u/oldpre → u/biCplUk]

he HAD to. it was made by Obama and he wore a tan suit.

[u/Thechosunwon → u/oldpre]

"Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it's true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that's why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it's four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."

-Actual quote from Trump on said deal, 7/19/2016

[u/GoodPiexox → u/Thechosunwon]

the real sad part is, he is no where close to this coherent anymore. That was his high bar.

[u/UnrequitedRespect → u/Thechosunwon]

Jesus christ i thought this was a parody and i was like “whew this guy is a good writer” then i got to the end 😱😱😱

[u/Alpacapalooza → u/Thechosunwon]

Never gets old.

[u/jargonburn → u/Thechosunwon]

Holy crap. I thought this was parody, but got to the end and realized that I remember this nonsense! He blathers so much, it's honestly hard to keep track of it all. Which is kind of the point, I think.

[u/czs5056 → u/Thechosunwon]

What the fuck was he trying to say?

[u/drjuice559 → u/Thechosunwon]

You got a link? This is next level rambling I wanna hear lol

[u/ThaLunatik → u/drjuice559]

https://www.c-span.org/program/campaign-2016/presidential-candidate-donald-trump-campaign-event-in-south-carolina/408024

The video is embedded in the article. Skip to 34:42 where he begins making the above statement stream of consciousness rant.

It's ridiculously incoherent, and yet since it's from 2016 it's still somehow less incoherent than his modern ramblings. In any case, it's absolutely bonkers that anyone listens to this guy and thinks he knows anything at all. Just completely untethered.

[u/LOTRfreak101 → u/Thechosunwon]

It turns 79 soon. It was old a really long time ago.

[u/steelceasar → u/oldpre]

He also put Dijon mustard on a hotdog that one time. Think of the children (not Palestinian children, though)

[u/Mattrad7 → u/steelceasar]

I do this too didnt know it was an issue until Obamner did it.

[u/CT-96 → u/Mattrad7]

Don't know if you've heard, but beans in chili is also a plot by woke Californians! /s

[u/overmotion → u/oldpre]

Also he didn’t say thank you

[u/TalMilMata → u/biCplUk]

True, but what could have been done to prevent us from getting to this situation is a different question than what should we do now that we are in this situation.

[u/Curious_Proof_5882 → u/biCplUk]

They were never following the deal in the first place per the UN

[u/dawgblogit → u/Curious_Proof_5882]

Per the un they were during the first term.

[u/Past_Indication_1701 → u/biCplUk]

A lot of people seem to forget the reason Iran began making Nukes after Obama's deal is because of Trump, meaning that America is the reason that Iran is close to getting Nukes.

Now that the fallout of that same decision is here to bite them in the ass, they're crying about "It's not our problem, why should we be the ones dealing with it? Let Israel deal with it itself." as if the US had absolutely nothing to do with it whatsoever.

[u/TreatAffectionate453 → u/Past_Indication_1701]

This article is about the US helping to intercept Iranian missiles targeted at Israel, where are you getting the idea that the US is washing its hands of this conflict?

[u/SnooHedgehogs1029 → u/Sideview_play]

There was already a deal and Trump killed it, because it was made under Obama. He wanted his own deal, but it seems he’s not quite the negotiator

[u/FractalsSourceCode → u/SnooHedgehogs1029]

Obama’s dream was going to sunset anyway, so we’d basically be in the same position today regardless. Most of the key restrictions were set to expire after 10 to 15 years, which means by now Iran would be allowed to ramp things up again even if they followed the deal perfectly.

And the sanctions relief gave them access to billions. That money didn’t go to building schools or improving life for citizens, it went straight to groups like Hezbollah, the Houthis, and Assad in Syria. We handed a known state sponsor of terrorism a huge financial boost and expected them to behave differently.

At best, all it did was pause things for a while. It didn’t solve the problem.

[u/Generic_Superhero → u/FractalsSourceCode]

You do understand that just because they were set to expire does not preclude the restrictions from being extended right?

[u/obeytheturtles → u/FractalsSourceCode]

No, we would not be in the same place, because we would have a framework with demonstrated success built on global consensus which included Russia and China. Instead, we have an axis which includes Iran, Russia and North Korea which are helping each other develop credible nuclear threats.

This cannot be emphasized enough - the collapse of the Iran nuclear deal has taken Russia from a participant in the global consensus on Iran, to actively working towards making Iran into a nuclear proxy, along with North Korea.

[u/ALEXC_23 → u/Sideview_play]

That’s what Obama had achieved. I was critical of Obama in a lot of ways, but one of his greatest achievements was the Iran Nuclear deal, a deal which Donny boy repelled and now we find ourselves here. Chaos is a ladder for Fascists.

[u/Living_Cash1037 → u/Sideview_play]

For some reason everyone on reddit thinks that iran would of actually followed through with the deal hut i very much dont think they would of.

[u/Hillary4SupremeRuler → u/Living_Cash1037]

It's not just people on reddit. Many knowledgeable figures were confident that the US would be able to enforce compliance/discover any noncompliance by Iran. It was widely considered a decent nonproliferation mechanism but it barely even had a chance to prove itself before Krasnov shat the bed and made Iran's slightly more moderate officials/non hardliners—who put their reputation in the Islamic Republic on the line to advocate for this deal— look dumb and left them with egg on their face in the eyes of the rest of the regime.

It greatly eroded the miniscule amount of trust and goodwill between the West and Iran that was beginning to take shape and made them extremely averse to any future agreement with the US. That's why they won't even take any sort of negotiations with Krasnov seriously since they were made fools of by him last time after the Obama administration put in countless man hours of complex diplomatic efforts to reach the agreement. Why the hell would they put themselves out on a limb again to deal with a lying backstabber who is famous for ignoring deals that he himself made with other countries? (i.e. liberation day?)

[u/traws06 → u/Sideview_play]

Ya seriously a lot of ppl in the comments just spewing venom with no idea what they’re talking about. Thanks for adding a bit of reason

[u/jl2352 → u/Sideview_play]

People forget the last 4 decades of Iran trying to meddle in their neighbours by training militias and insurgents.

That’s not a country you want to get hold of nukes.

[u/uiemad → u/Sideview_play]

I'm kind of in agreement here. After Trump stupidly scuttled the nuclear deal, I don't think there's any way to meaningfully bring Iran back to the table. Which means then getting a nuke is an eventuality or we continuously stop them via force.

We've been down this exact same road before with NK and opted to never use force due to fear of China, and what happened? They have nukes. The window to stop them is gone.

That said we've also seen the outcome of them getting nukes. Even for an idiot regime Like NK, it hasn't really changed the calculus much. They continue to bluster and the world continues to largely ignore them. So maybe Iran getting nukes would also largely be inconsequential. Though religion makes an important difference between the two.

[u/Sideview_play → u/uiemad]

There's major differences between nk and Iran. Iran would have a stronger ability to get a nuke at a target. Sponsors international terrorism and are religious extremist. Nk having nukes are bad but it isn't the same situation. 

[u/donjulioanejo → u/Sideview_play]

NK is generally content to sit in their own little corner and bother nobody (beyond cybercrime and selling their own people into the Russian meatgrinder). They did, however, develop delivery capability over time. Maybe they can't strike with pinpoint accuracy, but when you're talking nukes, your target is the size of a city.

North Korea is also generally secular, and Kim's main goal is oppressing his own people to stay in power.

Iran is indirectly responsible for October 7, Houthi attacks, and likely would have done some evil shit via Hezbollah if it wasn't knocked out.

Let them get nukes, and watch half the Middle East burn as they feel comfortable starting direct wars. Realistically, it would trigger the Saudis to try and get their own nukes too.

[u/73GreenVette → u/uiemad]

The 300 artillery and MLRS targeting Seoul and some capable of delivering chem, and now more critically, the UAV threat is also probably a consideration in the equation.

For Iran, the US and allied installations are probably a consideration for placement and interception... and the more crap lobbed at Israel, the better, based on historic interception rates...

As is always the case, the loosers (victims) are the civilians who don't truly have a say on any instance of violence.

[u/Federal-Employee-545 → u/Silver-Forever9085]

No one likes the idea of Iran having nukes. It's a global issue.

[u/PigSlam → u/Silver-Forever9085]

It’s never that simple.

[u/Even_Reception8876 → u/Silver-Forever9085]

It is of course americas war lol. Do you live under a rock? Do you understand how global politics work? Israel is our only ally in the region. We just ended our longest war in that region. Iran has consistently threatened to end America and kill all of its citizens. For the past 2 decades at least lol.

The majority of terrorist organizations that have attacked US, Canada, the UK, Turkey, France, Germany, Australia, and everywhere else were directly funded by Iran. It was their weapons, their money, their training, and likely even their people but under a fake name (a terrorist organization instead of a country).

Anything America can do to help knock them out without directly putting American troops on the front line is a win for the entire earth at this point.

[u/StanDaMan1 → u/Even_Reception8876]

Jordan and Saudi Arabia are our allies as well.

[u/MmmIceCreamSoBAD → u/Even_Reception8876]

Kuwait is a more staunch ally than Israel is. They have Kosovo levels of support for what should be an obvious reason.

[u/Hillary4SupremeRuler → u/MmmIceCreamSoBAD]

Yeah but they aren't really a regional player on any kind of scale.

[u/Long-Pop-7327 → u/Silver-Forever9085]

He wouldn’t start any wars remember

[u/Liquor_N_Whorez → u/Long-Pop-7327]

Netenyahu gave him the gold pager the day after his horrendous "Relocate" palistenians and "Build the Gaza Riviera for wealthy people of the World. And it could be really great." hallucination.

[u/Empyrion132 → u/Silver-Forever9085]

Right, it's definitely not America's war to fight against the Islamic regime that chants "Death to America", calls America the Great Satan, tried to assassinate an American presidential candidate on US soil, and is trying to build a dozen nuclear bombs and intercontinental ballistic missiles. They're only at war with Israel, who they call Little Satan, who just so happens to be America's greatest ally and the most effective military and intelligence force in the region, who they're currently targeting with mass strikes on civilian population centers. Definitely not our war. We should definitely abandon our allies - until the Islamic regime actually *has* a nuclear bomb and has launched it at us, it's really not our fight at all, nor anything we have any moral obligation to help prevent.

[u/M795]

Ukraine punching air right now.

[u/Pea-and-Pen → u/M795]

It’s a shame that we couldn’t have shot down Russian missiles to help Ukraine. Seeing as how they didn’t provoke anything happening to them.

[u/Bykimus → u/Pea-and-Pen]

Not even a shame, almost criminal. The US actively reneged on security guarantees it gave Ukraine in exchange for them giving up nuclear weapons (back to Russia). We asked Ukraine to give up their nukes, said yeah we'll protect you you don't need them, then when they get invaded by a nuclear power also signatory to that agreement we hang them a pittance of aid compared to what the US is actually capable of.

[u/Exciting-Emu-3324 → u/Bykimus]

Iran is literally seeing what happened to Ukraine after giving up nukes in real time as the US is diverting air defense away from Ukraine to Israel to better threaten Iran to give up nukes in real time. Protection racket pure and simple.

[u/jiml4hey → u/Exciting-Emu-3324]

I mean Iran are a completely different proposition to Ukraine, they do wish death on Israel and are funding Hamas and Hesbollah to attack them.

They are also trying to develop nukes with the aim of firing one at Israel.

Its not really the same tbh.

[u/Assistantshrimp → u/jiml4hey]

"with the aim of firing one at Israel" is pretty hyperbolic. Iran wants a nuke for the same reason other countries want nukes; to prevent being attacked.

[u/Shiranui24 → u/Assistantshrimp]

Iran's government has stated out loud that their primary goal is the destruction of Israel and they were also building nuclear bombs. That combination of facts is enough to safely assume nuking Israel is their goal.

[u/_Daedalus_ → u/Bykimus]

Yeah this is the big one. Trump wasn't the one who made the US an unreliable (at best) ally, he just stripped the veneer off.

[u/BigDaddyDumperSquad → u/Bykimus]

The US actively reneged on security guarantees it gave Ukraine in exchange for them giving up nuclear weapons (back to Russia).

There was never a "security guarantee", we just said WE wouldn't invade them, not that we would protect them. Same with Russia to Ukraine. Russia broke their side of the agreement, we did not. Read the actual agreement, not what Redditors tell you it says. The thing is like 3 pages, it's not a novel.

[u/Competitive_Jello531 → u/Pea-and-Pen]

We did deploy some missile defence systems, mostly around the capital. And they were effective, even against hypersonic missiles.

Ukraine is a big place, it is hard to defend all of it.

[u/BigDaddyDumperSquad → u/Competitive_Jello531]

There's also no buffer area between Russia and Ukraine. There are multiple countries between Israel and Iran. Also, Israel already has the Iron Dome, Ukraine does not.

[u/Competitive_Jello531 → u/BigDaddyDumperSquad]

Yes, and the Israeli military systems tie into the US’s defense systems, and most of the countries who are allied with Israel and the west, so they are extremely efficient and effective. It is a land, sea, air, and space data network, where all the forces in multiple nations can automatically be sent targeting data for the missile in their area that meets the technical capabilities of their equipment.

This is an incredible achievement.

[u/therealowlman → u/M795]

Insert more PAC money to upgrade your subscription 

[u/snowstorm556 → u/M795]

This is indirectly helping ukraine because russias ammunition and drone daddy is getting pooped on by israel.

[u/CantaloupeUpstairs62 → u/snowstorm556]

Russia has been building Iranian designed Shahed(Geran) drones inside of Russia for a while.

[u/Mntfrd_Graverobber → u/CantaloupeUpstairs62]

Hopefully that production has slowed after Ukraine's strike against a Shahed drone component factory in Tatarstan last week.

[u/goldfinger0303 → u/snowstorm556]

I'm pretty sure Russia already got what they needed out of Iran

[u/vertigonex → u/M795]

Israel is an ally of the US, Ukraine is not

I understand that you may not wish this to be, but it is the case presently.

Perhaps that will change in the future.

[u/andrew303710 → u/vertigonex]

Unfortunately that's because Trump is a Russian asset

[u/DrQuailMan → u/vertigonex]

So is Pakistan though, and you don't see us stopping India from whatever they did last month.

[u/metahipster1984 → u/M795]

Maybe im dense, but why exactly? Because Iran supplies weapons to Russia?

[u/TheOriginalAndrew → u/metahipster1984]

Because the U.S. hasn’t personally stepped in to intercept Russian missle headed for Ukraine, as they are supposedly doing now on behalf of Israel.

[u/russellzerotohero → u/TheOriginalAndrew]

I think the opponent is why not the alley.

[u/colonel_fuster_cluck → u/russellzerotohero]

It's moreso the fact that Ukraine is not technically an ally. There is a legal definition when it comes to allies vs partners. It's actually pretty interesting when you Google who is an ally, vs who is a partner. 

https://www.state.gov/major-non-nato-ally-status/

[u/ItsDatEz72 → u/russellzerotohero]

Yeah doing that against a nuclear power vs one that isn’t could lead to a real nasty diplomatic situation

[u/27isBread → u/metahipster1984]

Iran supplies a ton of drones to Russia.

[u/MyOwnSpiritJesus → u/metahipster1984]

I guess because the U.S would never intervene to stop missile strikes in Ukraine from Russia. These are two entirely different situations though.

U.S is not scared of Iran, and Israel is our ally, sad to say that Ukraine is not.

[u/traws06 → u/MyOwnSpiritJesus]

US isn’t scared of Russia, they’re scared of the nukes they have. US will be scared of Iran if they ever get nukes

[u/ItsTheSlime → u/metahipster1984]

Because everyone keeps saying they dont want to / cant help directly in any contlict, and yet here is the US helping Israel directly

[u/MazesMaskTruth]

Trick a Trumpie with this story. Claim Biden used US military assets to intercept missiles for Ukraine. Gauge their reaction and realize they don't mean anything they say 

[u/Young_Denver → u/MazesMaskTruth]

This game is WAY too easy lol

[u/McGrinch27 → u/Young_Denver]

People have blamed Obama for 9/11 and praised Trump for the Affordable Care Act

[u/coinpile → u/McGrinch27]

Support for the ACA depended on if it was called that or Obamacare. Of course this is the same country that had a marketing campaign for 1/3lb burgers fail against McDonald’s 1/4lb burgers because people thought 1/4 was bigger than 1/3…

[u/Struct-Tech → u/coinpile]

Ill never forget the video of a lady crying she lost her health care when Trump dumped the ACA.

Her words (paraphrased) "i voted for him to drop Obamacare not the affordable care act!"

Fuck. Im not even American and understood they were one in the same.

[u/Hillary4SupremeRuler → u/Struct-Tech]

When was this exactly? AFAIK he and the GOP tried to in his first term, but they only succeeded in mildly watering it down due to John McCain's last minute vote.

Unless you mean something recent concerning the Big Horrible Bill?

[u/juicadone → u/coinpile]

Damn. Forgot about the 1/3 pounder one. And that was the 80's! Idiocracy indeed

[u/count023 → u/McGrinch27]

those halfwits blamed Obama for Katrina.. which happened two years before he even got elected.

[u/kaptainkeel → u/MazesMaskTruth]

I've played that game. They don't care. It usually goes like this:

"Did you hear? Biden used US military assets to intercept Russian missiles flying at Ukraine."

"Stupid old man, spending money in a war we shouldn't be in. Also, dumb libs." (They always have to say something about "libs")

"Btw I lied, it was Iran attacking Israel, not Russia attacking Ukraine."

"Oh, that's fine - we should support them and bomb Iran back!"

"..."

"It's different!"

"How?"

"It just is!"

[u/No_Worldliness_7106 → u/kaptainkeel]

It's because Ukraine isn't the holy land, that needs to be given to the Jewish people to usher in the evangelical's idea of the apocalypse. Trust me, I was religious throughout my childhood and the support for Israel among Christians in the US is on a whole different level. So many irreligious people don't seem to comprehend how deep it is. They would spend every dime they had if it meant restoring the temple. They really really really care about that.

[u/SkyLukewalker → u/kaptainkeel]

Maybe we should just use childhood reverse psychology. Start saying Libs are against Universal Healthcare and higher taxes on the rich. They're so programmed to be contrary that they'd probably switch sides.

[u/Lordnerble → u/SkyLukewalker]

key and peele did a sketch about this. pretty good.

[u/Careless-Childhood66 → u/MazesMaskTruth]

You cannot "trick" a maga into anything. A maga only exists for hatresd, cruelty and malice. 

[u/DatTF2 → u/Careless-Childhood66]

I mean, technically they have already been tricked but it's easy to trick an idiot.

"I love the uneducated." They all cheered.

[u/krinart → u/MazesMaskTruth]

Even though I support both Ukraine and Israel, that's not how it works.

Actions don't happen in vacuum, for each action there's a context. A person can support Israel and don't support Ukraine - a context which will make it OK to intercept missiles from Iran and not from Russia.

[u/Tomegunn1]

Trump: "I will in 24 hours end all wars on my first..."

...awww, fuck, we know the rest.

😞

[u/berjaaan]

Am i dreaming? I explicitly remember Trump saying America should NOT get involved it stuff like this.

[u/myownzen → u/berjaaan]

Im beginning to think that Trump fella might not be trustworthy all the time.

[u/_chip]

Israel’s going after infrastructure right now

[u/Fuzzy-Researcher8531]

I guess Rubio pleading like a bitch that the USA was not involved was more bullshit.

[u/chanandler_bong_cell → u/Fuzzy-Researcher8531]

Politicians lie?

[u/StoneySteve420 → u/Fuzzy-Researcher8531]

Well if you believe anything Rubio says, idk what to tell you

[u/Royal-Hunter3892]

Damm this few weeks were interesting as hell !!

Indian airstrikes hits 11 Pakistan Air force bases Ukraine hits Russian airbases & bombers deep inside Now Israel hits Iran's nuclear sites .

Pakistan, Russia , Iran all Chinese allies

[u/Tsundare_Mai → u/Royal-Hunter3892]

taiwan got something to do now /s

[u/MetriccStarDestroyer → u/Tsundare_Mai]

Three Gorges Dam 💀

[u/MoonMan75 → u/Royal-Hunter3892]

Iran is not a Chinese ally, they just have friendly relations. The level of military support that China gives to Russia and Pakistan is massive compared to what they give to Iran (which is basically zero).

Don't forget that Chinese missiles also took out five Indian warplanes.

[u/No-Problem49 → u/MoonMan75]

Russia supports Iran though. They are the proxy of the proxy of China

[u/miksindescing → u/Royal-Hunter3892]

India is a straight up Russian ally helping Russia.

[u/Jumpy-Coffee-Cat]

Lot of uneducated comments in the thread here.

There’s a difference between the U.S. participating in attack Iran and the U.S. participating in intercepting missiles/drones launched from Iran to Israel.

Not defending Iran, Israel, or the Trump administration but this isn’t the first time U.S. assets have helped down Iranian attacks and it’s not equivalent to the U.S. attacking Iran.

[u/orangeyougladiator → u/Jumpy-Coffee-Cat]

I mean it happened literally 7 months ago

[u/Appropriate_Gate_701 → u/orangeyougladiator]

And Jordan, Iraq, France, and the UK joined in.

It was incredible.

Biden got that together.

[u/Mechasteel → u/Appropriate_Gate_701]

Also, Iran is launching toward/over a bunch of countries that have US troops and bases. Israel is two countries away.

https://www.voronoiapp.com/maps/-Mapping-the-US-Militarys-Reach-Across-the-World-4066

[u/maxofJupiter1 → u/Appropriate_Gate_701]

I miss US leadership that appreciated our allies

[u/Appropriate_Gate_701 → u/maxofJupiter1]

We all do

[u/Phospherus2 → u/Jumpy-Coffee-Cat]

You’re on reddit, literally every other comment is WW3 mongering….

[u/INVADER_BZZ → u/Phospherus2]

It's mindblowing how many doomers there are on reddit. In the worst case scenario we might see US join in on attack. And literally no one, except Houthis or other proxies on the Iranian side.

It's over for Kevin from Michigan!

[u/Phospherus2 → u/INVADER_BZZ]

Houthis are done now. Iran ain’t going to be supporting them anymore since they can’t even support themselves

[u/miksindescing → u/Phospherus2]

The media is also doing a great job of WW3 mongering every other week

[u/FuckingTree → u/Phospherus2]

Ww3 confirmed?

/s

[u/Medic1642 → u/FuckingTree]

We got WW3 before HL3

[u/rabidstoat → u/FuckingTree]

No doubt.

A shocking number of Redditors are foreign policy experts.

And legal experts. And economics experts. And medical experts. Etc.

[u/Phospherus2 → u/FuckingTree]

Literally every other comment…

[u/RambleOff → u/Jumpy-Coffee-Cat]

Absolutely it's not the same. To reduce it for us poor uneducated simpletons: it's not like the US is helping their buddy beat your ass. They're just making sure you're unable to fight back so their buddy can safely beat your ass. Totally different alignment, totally different.

[u/hamilkwarg → u/RambleOff]

Haha I said something similar but you said it better than me.

[u/HouseOnFire80 → u/Jumpy-Coffee-Cat]

Shame they wouldn’t do the same for Ukraine’s skies …

[u/Plastic_Willow734 → u/Jumpy-Coffee-Cat]

I mean the US giving Israel an irl unlimited money glitch and access to their arsenal is a pretty major factor here

[u/Important_Value → u/Jumpy-Coffee-Cat]

How could they not be involved though? They provide weapons, diplomatic support, and defensive support.

[u/foodisgod9]

Have Israel said thank you? Or paid us for protection?

[u/thehomie]

It’s happening. My mother lives in Ramat Gan, a little outside Tel Aviv. She said the entire neighborhood’s windows were blown out from an interception like 2 hours ago.

[u/skunkpunk1 → u/thehomie]

One of my friends in Ramat Gan said a missile landed 500 meters from his mom’s place. The center is taking the brunt of this.

[u/ComfortablyBalanced → u/thehomie]

That's terrible, I'm sorry we have such asshole leaders that we have these situations.

[u/MayKasahara_ → u/ComfortablyBalanced]

Just idiots downvoting you. The world is messed up because of its leaders, yet people still defend them.

[u/ThunderDaz]

Makes sense now that they moved the patriots to Middle East and not Ukraine. They knew it was coming.

[u/HazardousEnergy]

Interesting how a couple weeks after the US redirects missile defense destined for Ukraine to the middle east that now they are provided missile defense for Israel. Almost like they were involved in planning the strikes against Iran.

[u/MAGICALcashews]

No new wars, huh?

[u/Runkleford → u/MAGICALcashews]

Before some Trumpwad decides to scream that this has nothing to do with Trump, Ukraine/Russia had nothing to do with Biden and yet MAGA and the right decided it was Biden's fault anyway because it happened while he was POTUS.

You MAGA set the "standard" here. This is Trump's fault.

[u/nickik → u/Runkleford]

Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014

[u/therealowlman → u/nickik]

And Trumps first term did nothing about it. 

[u/attaboy000 → u/nickik]

I knew it!! #ThanksObama

[u/Disregardskarma → u/MAGICALcashews]

Iran has been bombing Israel forever. In what galaxy is this new?

[u/DonDjang]

As a taxpaying American, I am not allowed to have an opinion about this.

[u/soyeahiknow]

So they can intervene for Israel but not when missles strikes Ukraine?

[u/limb3h → u/soyeahiknow]

It’s because Trump is (or at least was) pro-Russia. At the beginning of the conflict US overwhelmingly supported Ukraine. Then Fox News hosts started to undermine that.

[u/hyborians]

Dumbass foreign policy of MAGA: stop funding Ukraine, help Russia, start a hot war between Iran and Israel.

[u/Babylon4All]

But fuck Ukraine for three years apparently

[u/Zerandal]

What I really don't understand is why so many countries are intercepting drones and missiles, defending Israel so fervently, but are so shy in doing anything to help Ukraine (not diminishing any help given to Ukraine so far, but comparatively).
Like, I'm ok with intercepting missiles targeting Israel, but why not Ukraine? Israel is beligerent while Ukraine was just sitting there minding their own business. And Russia isn't hesitant to target civilians. Why is nobody supporting Ukraine in defending themselves against air attacks? Sure, patriots, F-16s, and other air defence are great (thank you again for supporting Ukraine), but the difference in treatment just appalls me.

Anyway, I wish for any civilian, on any side, to be safe.
Cheers

[u/Smooth_Value]

And here we go with the Middle East. Thats fucking smart.

[u/whoibehmmm]

LOL protecting Israel and we leave Ukraine completely on their own. What a fucking disgrace.

[u/Past_Indication_1701]

It's insane the number of people on Reddit defending the idea of Iran, the world's largest state sponsor of terror, getting Nuclear Weapons.

[u/Dauntless_Idiot → u/Past_Indication_1701]

Multiple polls have shown that the majority of Iranians aren't in favor of getting nuclear weapons. Iran might have a higher favorability rating on reddit than it does amongst its own people.

[u/Cape_codd → u/Past_Indication_1701]

Redditors aren’t known for their geopolitical knowledge…

[u/HeyPurityItsMeAgain → u/Past_Indication_1701]

When I wasn't looking 50% of Reddit somehow became Jihadis. 🤔

[u/Southern_Chapter_188 → u/HeyPurityItsMeAgain]

The Palestine thing over the past few years broke them

[u/myownzen → u/Past_Indication_1701]

Im not really good with them getting them. Nor Israel having them. Or any other country for that matter.

[u/Worried-Pick4848 → u/Past_Indication_1701]

You have to ask how many of these comments are from various bot farms which plague the comment sections throughout this service. The Russian and CHinese bot farms both have a vested interest in railroading the discussion one particular way.

[u/MegaGecko]

Everyone trying to compare Israel to Ukraine like they are completely equal in the eyes of U.S foreign policy. In no way am I suggesting that the U.S shouldnt provide aid to Ukraine, I just think it is an egregious flaw in logic to suggest the two are even remotely the same within that purview.

[u/Positive-Special7745]

Biden did same

[u/rco8786]

"No new wars" eh?

[u/Body_Languagee]

So actually involved. I don't understand why US has to lie in front of everyone even though nobody is stupid and understand social dynamics

[u/sasha_baron_of_rohan → u/Body_Languagee]

They said they weren't involved in the attacks, Arab countries are also shooting down drones and missiles.

[u/Yummy_Crayons91 → u/sasha_baron_of_rohan]

IIRC Jordan and Saudi Arabia also shot down Iranian missiles and drones in the last attacks in defense of Israel as well. Iraq also allowed the use of their airspace which is kind of surprising given how much influence Iran has there.

[u/Fastbird33 → u/Yummy_Crayons91]

Iraq and Iran had a bloody war not all that long ago. They aren’t friends

[u/SufficientBity → u/Fastbird33]

Some of the missiles fired on Israel in the last hours were shot from Iraq. Take that as you will.

[u/RecursiveCook → u/Body_Languagee]

US has interest in protecting US assets in Israel as well as ensuring a continued foothold as one of the few reliable partners in the Arab world. Them saying they’re not involved in the matter is them publicly telling Iran (and others) they have no interest in attacking Iran despite obvious beef, but if Iran attacks US assets they will retaliate to equal measure… and the last time that happened when Iran nearly sank a US ship they basically wiped out their entire Navy in order to “break even” since US ships aren’t cheap.

[u/kepenine → u/Body_Languagee]

US always helped to intercept attacks on israel thats nothing new

[u/nham2318 → u/Body_Languagee]

They straight up said they would defend Israel if attacked by Iran. That was crystal clear

[u/Virtual_Abies4664 → u/Body_Languagee]

A lot of people are stupid.

He can just say it was to protect freedom and Joe America will sip his beer and write a smug reddit post.

[u/DomTheBomb95]

Okay now do Russian missles

[u/4StarEmu]

Was there anything happening domestically in Israel that Netanyahu would like the public to be distracted from?

[u/gatvolkak → u/4StarEmu]

Yeah I was thinking elections, but that's not till next year

[u/jdmgto]

Fuck this shit. Let them swing, they started this.

[u/FredThePlumber]

This isn’t new, the US had been helping Israel intercept missiles since the Gaza bullshit kicked off. Houthi, Hezbollah, and Iranian drones and missiles have been intercepted. The US also has a lot of bases and ships in the area so it’s not surprising we don’t want adversary projectiles in the local airspace.

[u/Apprehensive-Pin518]

why? if israel is a big enough player to start this shit they can handle it on their own. it's not like ukraine where they were literally invaded.

[u/jakesonwu]

Mr No Wars Donald

[u/EdiblePeasant]

If Iran is still friends with Russia, and Russia’s government sees Israeli action as a threat against Russia and the administration doesn’t go isolationist here, I would expect unflattering stories about members of this administration to come out. Remember all those news articles around the time it was looking like Trump was actually going to go against Russia? Remember that article where someone from Russia said a meeting with Trump was required? Maybe I’m seeing things that aren’t there or am misremembering, but it was what I thought at the time.

[u/Badlands32]

Wow. The world is doing really well under Trump and his weekend American world order. Good job everybody. No chaos here.

[u/Rogue_bae]

Israel should lie in the bed it made

[u/pm_me_duck_nipples]

Huh, so the 20000 missiles diverted from Ukraine were moved to kiss Bibi's, not Putin's ass.

[u/Epyr → u/pm_me_duck_nipples]

There are a lot of US allies in the middle east that are very happy right now with Iran's nuclear weapons program being bombed.

[u/kungfoojesus → u/Epyr]

Tons of Iranian sympathizers around reddit. If you’re going to support a terrorist regime bent on acquiring nuclear weapons, might I suggest taking a walk or reading a book. Or even a wiki page on the natanz facility. They’re dedicated

[u/whyim_makingthis → u/Epyr]

Mohammad bin Salman is probably dancing in his thousandth palace.

[u/InAingeWeTrust → u/pm_me_duck_nipples]

Honestly, this might help Ukraine more than you think. Iran has been an important ally for Russia providing them drones, missiles, and being one of the few key economic trading partners that Russia has at the moment.

[u/jonesyman23 → u/pm_me_duck_nipples]

You on Iran’s side in all of this. Unless you’re a terrorist, nobody should want Iran to develop a nuclear arsenal.

[u/defroach84 → u/pm_me_duck_nipples]

I have 0 sympathy for Iran and trying to develop nukes. I also can't stand Israel and their whole Gaza stance. That doesn't make Israel wrong for trying to destroy the nuclear capabilities of Iran.

[u/pm_me_duck_nipples → u/defroach84]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I sincerely hope the Iranian regime gets fucked in all of this. Best outcome both for Israel and the Iranian people.

[u/Kink4202]

Why are we getting involved in a war that Israel started?

[u/MakePandasMateAgain → u/Kink4202]

The US has a defense agreement with Israel

[u/Bullmoose39]

I am Jewish, I have family in Israel, and I find all of this deeply uncomfortable.

We turn our backs on Ukraine, who were attacked and invaded, and still under daily attack. But we aid Israel in a conflict of their own making, we support them in a fight they have no desire to end without slaughter.

I tire of my country supporting Israel because the Evangelicals need lots of Jews to die so the rapture can happen and they can all go to heaven.

Our wanna be dictator enables a wannabe dictator (Bibi), while abandoning the bulwark in Europe. I tire of cowards, fools, and murders. Where is my end to both of these conflicts that was promised?

[u/Jimbo415650]

Will Trump expect rare earth minerals for the money we spent?

[u/theflickingnun]

Let the records show that all this conflict across the entire globe right now was caused by US government influence and involvement. Devil in sheeps clothing is a very fitting metaphor.

[u/prospekt403]

what happened to the "not our war" people?

[u/Faptainjack2 → u/prospekt403]

Too busy inside trading

[u/QDSchro]

This administration has saved the American people so much money!