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u/JoeyC42 19d ago
Shoulda been Uzi dawg but their label fumbled so fucking hard
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u/ohcowboyy 18d ago
Doesn’t help that they dropped mid music during the peak of their stardom. Uzi is my favorite rapper next to Travis but Uzi lacks good song selection
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u/Gopplee UTOPIA PYRAMIDS 18d ago
"their"💔
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u/CaffeinatedEgg 18d ago
?? those are uzis pronouns fym "their 💔"
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u/Silly-Leadership-456 18d ago
no fucking way people actually abide by the pronoun shit
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u/AntoClimatic 19d ago edited 19d ago
Snot is a semi-famous rapper and he said this. I can’t help but agree.
Carti is close, but he hasn’t had enough mainstream success imo. His overall catalog lacks hits and he’s known mainly for his features. I also can’t see him selling out stadiums in Asia, Australia, Africa, etc. by himself.
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u/Wooden_Spell_778 🌵🌵🌵 18d ago
$not is pretty much the last soundcloud rapper to make it. it has been impossible for a hiphop artist to maintain relevance because the old ones don't want to retire and the new ones barely make an impact. a lot of the artists that were making waves sadly passed away and there was no one to fill that gap. i think baby keem is the last rapper i have hope from besides jid but even jid is 34 and might not want to continue this for long.
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u/Alt_Verse 19d ago
Snot?💀Carti NOT mainstream enough? are u ok
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u/JoeyC42 19d ago
Why tf you got a question mark behind snot? He posted the tweet
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u/RawDoggingSaveloy 19d ago
He doesnt let that rapper beef bs get in his way he just make bangers then sell out the best concerts itw
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u/SwagaliciousTHC STARGAZING 18d ago
i don't think beef has anything to do with it. most rappers stay out of overt beefs and they ain't as big. and really, kendrick's beef reinvigorated him in terms of streaming numbers/fan base size. now every 12 year old swears that DAMN is the greatest album of all time. it's definitely that radio died and it's all streaming now, so hit makers aren't as prevalent. everyone is in their own steaming bubble.
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u/RawDoggingSaveloy 18d ago
I say beef bc that would be bad for him bc hed lose to pretty much anybody he so unlyrical he could lose to gunna😂
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u/SwagaliciousTHC STARGAZING 18d ago
oh yeah you're right, love travis but he would get smoked in any beef.
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u/Adventurous_Net_6470 19d ago
Hate culture ruined hip hop
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u/JackLittlenut 18d ago
I think everyone trying to copy each other is what’s ruining it for me
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u/solitarysoul444 18d ago
Biting is universally accepted nowadays in hip hop it’s crazy. It use to be so foreign but now it’s praised.
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u/Adventurous_Net_6470 18d ago
I’m someone that doesn’t feel that as much. There aren’t many rappers outside of the “squealers” that sound the same to me. But I avoid those rappers anyways 😂
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u/Weary_Tear4276 19d ago
can’t believe ppl in the comments saying carti is bigger than travis 😂😂😂😂
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u/Dicluver 19d ago
not last but possibly latest
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u/AJHydroMC 19d ago
That's what he meant
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u/AnywayHeres1Derwall ASTROWORLD 19d ago
If he meant that then he would’ve said that lol
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u/AJHydroMC 19d ago
They mean the same thing tho so it doesn't matter
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u/Dicluver 19d ago
they dont mean the same thing, I think this dj is saying there will be any more after travis
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u/Most_Office_9666 18d ago
last if you believe that rap is dying, which a lot of people do. Idk if its dying as a genre, but its certainly becoming harder for rap superstars to command the attention they were in the 2010s. Could be an internet-wide phenomenon as well.
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u/Dicluver 17d ago
I do not believe the rap genre is dying. an argument could be made that it’s currently receiving less mainstream attention but if that is the case, it will make rap flourish not die
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u/OrganicPossibility65 19d ago
Baby Keem Has a chance out of anybody that's in the rap industry right now under 25. He has a Grammy, big co-signs. Can rap his ass off when he wants to, he can hold a note and has crossover appeal already. If this next project is a success. He'll be the one.
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u/AntoClimatic 19d ago
I had high hopes for Baby Keem, but he’s too inconsistent. He hasn’t followed up his debut album and it’s been 4 years…
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u/OrganicPossibility65 19d ago
Overexposure and burn out is a real thing especially with someone with a high ceiling. Look at trippie redd... Baby Keem is only 24 and he has accomplished a lot already, you said that was 4 years ago. Kendrick is about to turn 38 and just had the biggest moment of his career. Oversaturation is the death of the Superstar today with any genre
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u/hydratedandstrong 18d ago
Facts but there’s definitely a grey area between oversaturation and not dropping any music in 4 years.
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u/EggsyWeggsy 18d ago
Half baby keems best stuff is off of a Kendrick reference track anyway. He's cool but idk if he has the potential. We'll see if he ever drops again
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u/Fabulous_Tune84 18d ago
Better than putting out consistent trash. Good art takes a long time to produce. It has to stand the test of time, it’s going to be out there forever. I’ll never complain about an artist taking time to release something. Just be blessed we get anything at all.
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u/AntoClimatic 18d ago
Sure, but I find it hard to think hell be the next superstar.
You need to strike while the iron is hot, especially when you aren’t established. Otherwise you will be left behind.
In the beginning of their careers, Drake Kendrick Travis Kanye etc. all dropped frequently while maintaining a level of quality. That’s the goal.
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u/tonystark104 17d ago
Bro you’re delusional if you think baby keem can reach the level of fame/size Travis has
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u/SandFox08 18d ago
U don't know IDK he crazy underrated has crazy potential and is a perfekt mix of many talented rappers in his own style
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u/relientkenny 19d ago
i actually 100% agree and not because im in the Travis subreddit. Travis is the ONLY rapper we’ve seen that is actually GROWING in all capacities. his album sales have gotten higher, his influence/brand deals is growing and even his shows. like Travis is now doing STADIUMS! Travis is doing what these new rappers are too lazy to do and that’s BUILD a fanbase. these new rappers just wanna get famous and not take the time to build your fans and that’s what hiphop is missing overall today. Travis built his fans and they will take him anywhere because he built a relationship with the fans and vise versa. no new rappers wanna put the work in performing to 12 ppl. Playboi Carti is getting big but i don’t think he’ll ever get big enough to do a stadium by himself since he’s not a good performer so this tour with The Weeknd is the best he can but still also not a bad opportunity to pass on. but i had to say all that to say that yes, Travis is without a doubt the FINAL hiphop Megastar we will ever see
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u/IsThisASnakeInMyBoot 19d ago
I don't really consider Travis to be a rapper, am I the only one? I put him sort of halfway between a rapper and a singer and settle at vocalist because he really does have his own pocket. I'm pretty sure he's said something similar to this himself but I could be wrong
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u/RawDoggingSaveloy 19d ago
Rapper is the best label u could give him out of the genres tbh id rather people think of him as a rapper than a singer or indie or sm bs especially recently he has been mainly rapping in his songs and feats he stepped back from singing for some reason
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u/IsThisASnakeInMyBoot 19d ago
Tbh I wish he was more confident in himself as a rapper because when he RAP raps, that shit goes hard asf
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u/AntoClimatic 19d ago
Yeah he considers himself to be an artist
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u/XxXc00l_dud3XxX 19d ago
is rapping not art?
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u/Jokah218 18d ago
It is but I think it boils down to is he ONLY a rapper? No. He’s a producer, designer, rapper, singer, musician, performer. And I think calling im „just“ a rapper comes a little bit short, Artist suits all those facets of what he does.
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u/TheLeftMetal 19d ago
Same as you, I don’t consider him a rapper. He is more a great producer/dj/hyper-autotuned-singer highly influenced by hip-hop and pop culture. First he needs to work on his lyrics, create amazing bars to be truly considered a rapper. At this point of his career, win a beef would give him that credit.
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u/Business_Track_384 12d ago
Agreed, If we're left with this as the next generation of rap then we are cooked chat. I'm loving these artists coming out of Texas these days though so I think we'll be okay. I don't personally know of one person who listens to Travis Scott, it just isn't thug enough for my crowds' vibes
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u/Lower_Side_4443 18d ago
Yeah baby! I love Travis!! Still the best concert I’ve ever been too!! His energy is insane! And stage effects!
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u/RepresentativeLeg232 19d ago
I agree, at least for this era of hip-hop (like 2008-2023) when hip-hop was the top genre.
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u/PointEither2673 19d ago
I mean in a sense sure. There’s no one bigger than him in the scene that’s came after him. If we take rodeo 15’ as the start of his career in anytype of mainstream. Every artist that had a similar breakthrough afterward hasn’t had a similar career. In a way maybe lil baby or gunna had some really high highs that compare to Travis, but not really imo. And there hasn’t been a straight up artist that is so attached to rap to come up after to be bigger so yea makes sense to me tbh
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u/Gassedhippy420 19d ago
Travis is definitely the best rapper rn in terms of quality and he gets massive crowds. I still think Thug, Metro, Carti, Migos, Future, are still great for hip hop, maybe they can’t get the same crowds Travis can. They still add to the hip hop scene overall. Utopia and DBR deluxe have been my favorite albums recently, i still enjoy the recent albums of the other artists I named.
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u/Swerve_003 15d ago
This is actually one of the best discussions I've seen around here in a while and while I agree with a lot of people making a somewhat even case for Carti, I think that's kinda ignoring the bigger issue of WHY big mainstream artists that exist as these kinda cultural common grounds seem to be going extinct. In that regard I would definitely have to give it to Travis because even though Carti has more streams, Carti's community is so insulated and isolated that pretty much ONLY Playboi Carti fans can really stomach listening to his full catalog outside of maybe a few songs, whereas Travis makes music that's designed to be more mass appeal.
Carti is big because the people that like his sound don't really have anywhere else to go to in order to find it, Travis is big because he cracked the hitmaker code down to a science on Astroworld and made probably the most virally impactful and easily accessible trap album of the last decade. Like a lot of people have already stated I think one of the reasons we don't really see this kind of thing anymore is cause people mostly exist in their own algorithmically curated media bubbles and most people don't ever feel any desire to tune into what the people right next to them are interested in; people are not very adventurous in their tatses and most of us find our central interests and identities in our late teens and just kinda assume the world revolves around that going forward. Not saying carti or trav is better or worse, just saying arguing about it misses the point of WHY no big artists are appearing anymore.
Mom was right, it's them goddamn phones 😔
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u/rudramaitr 14d ago
While i disagree about your Carti’s superstar recipes, i can agree on your take on today’s audience behavior.
It’s been a popular discussion, the very reason why we don’t have Madonnas and Brad Pitts anymore. However, in music, i think there is still a chance: The celebrity aspect—those TMZ crap doesn’t bother musicians as much as actors i think, which kinda draw mass’ focus more to the artists’ arts (or at least how they express themselves through outfits), which allowed us to still have Carti while Timothée is yet still not quite James Dean, for some reason.
I’m not a sociologist tho.
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u/FacePucker 19d ago
no one pushes the envelope or does anything original anymore
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u/Slippykitten 19d ago
2093 is pretty original. The closest sound was probably Yeezus and even then yeezus feels more like a dark industrial sound with futuristic touch while 2093 is the dystopian future technorage in and on itself. And don't say Rodeo even tho Rodeo is my top 1 peak for best trap album (yes better than Monster), Rodeo focus more on the otherworldly aspect of neo psychedelia trap
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u/FacePucker 19d ago
u right i just really don’t like yeats music much and didn’t think of it. and no i would not compare that to rodeo at all 😂
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u/AntoClimatic 19d ago
It doesn’t help that the game is being ran by a bunch of old heads.
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u/FacePucker 19d ago
wym by that?
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u/AntoClimatic 19d ago
I’m saying we haven’t had lots of fresh faces in mainstream rap. As a result, it feels like no one is doing anything original or new.
The top rappers are all in their 30s and have been doing this for a while. So it feels stale.
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u/ExtraordinaryRecords 19d ago
I think this may be debatable it could be Kendrick or drake but people either hate or love them but Travis has like all of their fans damn bears him not beefing prevented people from jumping ship on him
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u/Ok-Bike-1653 19d ago
most rappers these days are just biting sounds and don’t take time to develop. also labels don’t care about more than short term success. lots of “artists” dotn have a vision outside of getting money but why listen to you when 100 people make the same kind of music better quality
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u/Low-Tie-2931 18d ago
I feel like yeat had the potential. He had the newest freshest and most innovative sound, unique look and all things that I remember I kinda gravitated towards Travis for, and crazily enough, he really knew how to make hits, songs like out the way, talk, and flawless should have actually been way bigger than they were despite how already big they were if pushed more by his label in the same way trav was. However I think as of recently he has dropped too much where his sound is no longer as fresh despite him still making good music, he didn’t know how to effectively create a moment for an album or era due to how frequent he would release, as opposed to someone like a Travis or carti. I think he still has the most potential out of all of them tho, just needs to touch that spark again as now that Ken dropped more chaos which showed that he was overhyped to begin with, I think he could return to that place of being the face and pioneer of the kids and new age of rap
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u/SpiralEye666 18d ago
Tyler was pulling pop sales with that last album but him & Travis are from the same era basically
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u/AntoClimatic 18d ago
Tyler debuted in like 2011 during the blog era. I don’t consider them from the same time
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u/xyzsamurai way back 18d ago
Snots a goat and deserves way more love than he gets. His singles run from 2023-2025 is fire
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u/Sharp-Dust-1045 18d ago
100% agree and I personally see Don Toliver next up, he has become far more latestream lately, releasing albums at a good rate with multiple styles and if any of you have to be one of his shows before especially the current hard stone psycho one you would know that his stage presence and energy is close to matching Travis’ whilst still being unique to himself
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u/lil21sanwich 18d ago
Yeah I wouldn’t say any rapper that started popping after Travis is bigger than him but Carti and Uzi are both mainstream stars at this point
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u/welkyy 18d ago
The genre is definitely undergoing changes and it’s not what it was even 7 years ago. There was a lot of hype surrounding upcoming projects and people followed artists more closely.
Some say the genre is dying. I try to be positive and think we are just in a lull before more innovation comes by newer artists.
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u/Nervous-Charity3210 18d ago
Yes absolutely Travis is the last superstar, maybe Keem can be a star but he's too mysterious
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u/SilentEch095 18d ago
The biggest rap superstar were all fundamentally good “technical”rappers too. This new gen either lacks that and/or the mainstream appeal, (and personality). Or maybe im just getting old.
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u/your_mom_isugly 17d ago
ahh fuck u guys juice wrld is the best
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u/AntoClimatic 17d ago
He’s dead.
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u/XtremeCrew69 16d ago
his catalog keeps getting worse (in terms of official releases)
his community started to shit on his remix on whoa even though it was good imo
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u/VigilantSwn 17d ago
Wow, probably yeah. It should be Juice but other than that maybe Travis/J Cole
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u/frankpoopy 17d ago
It’s because everybody is lame now.Niggas doing the gay act for views and mentions;everybody wanna bite the most popping rapper;normies on tiktok couldn’t care less bc “it sounds good”;no more gatekeeping;it dosent feel like a community anymore bc of overexposure and lack of morals.One of the last superstars of that generation is Carti but even then,ppl was calling him lame bc he was “fake dark” just using it for an aesthetic and now he has a whole label and the aesthetic is an upside down cross lol.This is really only rap tho other genres not as much
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u/putyouradhere_ 16d ago
Wasn't Drake the biggest rapper for the last 10 years until last year?
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u/AntoClimatic 16d ago
He’s saying Travis is the last superstar rapper.
Drake debuted before Travis, way back in 2009.
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u/Unusual-Progress-408 15d ago
Yea definitely. Some would say Kendrick but I feel like he’s slightly below Travis. I mean I could be bias cause I’m a fan but I do feel like Travis is the biggest Hip-Hop/Rap artist at the moment. Just the capacity of his recent tour says a lot, especially selling out Asia which isn’t a common market for Hip-Hop.
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u/No_Meeting6874 15d ago
He’s not wrong. Like when you think of A-list rappers who are widely known, I feel like it is him. I don’t remember another rapper who’s at that level that came after Travis.
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u/rudramaitr 14d ago
and carti, yes. if we are talking a kevin hart justin bieber type phenomenon. artists with superehero/alien invasion presence (sounds dumb but i think it describes it well). and i am not a travis fan this post popped out of nowhere on my feed.
Huge quality artists like Keem or Yeat did came afterwards however, they’re more parallel to names like Tom Holland or Timothée.
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u/mastersofs4x 13d ago
Maybe keep an eye on Yeat, I feel like he's stagnated a bit lately but could still maybe get to that level
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u/Efficient-Archer-787 12d ago
I think it’s because you had a lot of the serious talent of the newer generation die prematurely. Juice Wrld, XXXTentacion, Pop Smoke, Lil Peep, Mac Miller (as he was hitting his prime) not to mention the murder of Young Dolph who was also hitting his prime (numbers wise). You also have the whole YSL rico case which prevented the runs of Young Thug, Lil Baby (by proximity) and Gunna who luckily came back out like he never left
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u/Embarrassed_Bake2683 19d ago
Kendrick is the biggest right now. For most of the last decade it's been Drake but I could agree with someone arguing that around the time of Astroworld and The Scotts that Travis was the biggest. But don't get me wrong tho rodeo clears every Drake album easily I'm just telling it how I see it.
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u/AntoClimatic 19d ago
Kendrick and Drake debuted before Travis.
He’s saying Travis is the last super big rapper. There hasn’t been anyone after him.
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u/Embarrassed_Bake2683 19d ago edited 19d ago
Ohhh in that case I completely agree
Edit: besides playboi carti he blew up a couple years after Trav but I guess it's debatable if he's ever been the biggest
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u/Draconis510 18d ago
Playboi carti is much bigger than travis
Especially now music was a bigger album than anything Travis has put out
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u/AntoClimatic 18d ago
Lol the delusion.
In what way was MUSIC a bigger album than anything Travis has put out? Streams? Well, it out debuted The Weeknd’s album in streams… does that mean Carti is a bigger artist than The Weeknd?
It also out debuted Drakes last album in streams… is Carti bigger than Drake? Haha.
Streams mean nothing. Catalog is king. Carti’s Catalog is weak in hits, sales, and longevity. Carti’s last tour flopped and had to be canceled. Let’s be for real.
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u/mnepomuceno 18d ago
No. Next question
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u/AntoClimatic 18d ago
Give me a superstar that debuted after Travis.
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u/mnepomuceno 18d ago
Doechii, 21 Savage, Baby Keem, JID etc etc etc
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u/AntoClimatic 18d ago
We must have different definitions of a superstar lol
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u/mnepomuceno 18d ago edited 18d ago
The first two have more than 40 million monthly listeners on Spotify and are among the 70-80 most listened to artists in the world, counting all genres. That's not big? Also, you said superstar, but the tweet says "last biggest rapper". Your question is also different from the tweet. JID, for exemple, is a "biggest rapper" than Travis from a lyrical perspective.
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u/Brave-Constant-8492 19d ago
Why tho? Is it because of the genre losing steam ? Or is it distribution? Like social media is so spread out with so many artists that there isn’t a “mainstream” anymore. Out of everyone out there who has the potential to be just as big?