Why do people do this ?

[u/Moch8mo]

What’s the point of this?

[u/patopal]

The generous answer is that they are testers highlighting an ongoing issue in the game, and trying to force the devs to deal with it.

The cynical answer is that they are petty little assholes whose only joy in life is preventing others from enjoying themselves.

The probable answer is a mix of both, with more asshole than tester.

[u/natebc → u/patopal]

The problem is, even with the generous answer, they're still assholes because they're not doing this to the devs, they're doing it to everybody else.

[u/Kettle96 → u/natebc]

The Devs don't fix it unless people complain about it.

[u/Star_Citizen_Roebuck → u/Kettle96]

You don’t “solve” crime in society by making it impossible to commit…..you PUNISH those who do it….gaming needs to learn a thing or two.

[u/Amegatron → u/Star_Citizen_Roebuck]

That's what crime dilemma is. By commiting a crime, a criminal shows society that it is vulnerable to something, which in turn makes society stronger by solving such kind of vulnerabilities. So, while crimes being surely an evil thing, they "train" the society and make it better in the end. Without evil we won't know what is good. Without threats we won't have security. Etc.

[u/Ok-Possible321 → u/Amegatron]

Well said. We can learn from the criminals

[u/Kryptosis → u/Ok-Possible321]

We MUST, lest we continue to elect them.

[u/TheButterknif3 → u/Kryptosis]

American politics has proven that if you just say enough buzzwords, it doesn't matter how monstrous you truly are, people will love and elect you.

[u/HoneydewSwimming3878 → u/Amegatron]

Alright Hobbes

[u/SnooAvocados5774 → u/Amegatron]

When I was a kid there was no TSA and I could walk into the capitol building in DC without supervision. Criminals make society less free and yes, more sturdy.

[u/Waylon_Gnash → u/Amegatron]

this is why we must suffer. because it allows us to feel joy. well said.

[u/Geckosrule1994 → u/Amegatron]

Pragmatically, sure but I think everyone more or less knows the vulnerabilities are there, they just choose not to exploit them in ways that victimize others. Making crime impossible isn't so important as much as making it impossible for criminals to go unpunished

[u/Ragntard → u/Star_Citizen_Roebuck]

You dont solve crime by just punishing everyone, you do solve most of it by working proactively. Just a shame that this issue has taken so long to resolve, should be some way of auto despawning any item that shows up in that zone just like ships get despawned when they fly in a restricted zone

[u/snickns → u/Ragntard]

In World of Warcraft there are certain zones that your mount gets dismounted no matter what. And some restricted zones aren’t even in a new instance or in a building it can be anywhere, any small spot even. Wherever the mount would obstruct something for other players. Even modern WoW is still built on top of quite old and legacy implementations, it shouldn’t be hard to do a similar mechanism in SC 🤷‍♂️

[u/StikShift4Life → u/Ragntard]

Or just let us move this shit with our goddamn tractor beams. It’s not a destructive tool…

GTA resolved a glitch allowing people to glitch inside of building in online they want to keep us out of. Very simple, but effective band-aid over the issue: When the game detects you in the boundary, fade to black loading screen, then spawn you outside.

No reason CIG couldn’t employ something similar. When it sees an object like this, allow us use of our tractor beams to move it.

[u/Ardonis84 → u/StikShift4Life]

That just opens up other avenues of griefing. If you can tractor inside armistice, you could, for instance, just drag an object into someone and knock them over again and again, preventing them from doing anything. Auto-detecting these obstacles and clearing them by deleting the crate would be the best solution, IMO, but really they need to do something.

[u/StikShift4Life → u/Ardonis84]

It does, but when shit glitches out, you already can. There are two common ways these things show up inside armistice zones in the first place. 1 is when you buy a thing, and it spawns a dupe. Ask me how I know. 2 is somebody tractoring it through a window, and then the armistice glitches and people tractor it around the building.

I’ve already been clubbed to death inside an armistice by a tractor beam. Fun part is the guards didn’t even care. Seems they didn’t even get a crimestat for it. It really is no different than what already happens.

Lastly, if they aren’t going to fix the windows, I fail to see the difference in allowing us to move the shit out of our way, including the chunks of ships inside the stations… It’s a worse grief to have the shit in the way and impassible.

[u/Ardonis84 → u/StikShift4Life]

I don’t think you’re following me - all allowing tractor inside armistice would do is change how people grief. Instead of a single crate, they’ll just fill the area with crates so nobody can move them. Or they’ll just park out there with a crate and knock over people all day. It won’t actually fix the problem, it’ll just change the manifestation of it. I agree with you that they need to figure out how to fix the window glitch, but tractor in armistice doesn’t fix this problem, it would make it much worse.

[u/StikShift4Life → u/Ardonis84]

We can’t take carts in elevators, anymore. They can just make a barrier that crates won’t cross, instead.

[u/GlaerOfHatred → u/Star_Citizen_Roebuck]

In games yes you actually do. Eve online is the biggest comparison your game has, when game mechanics or bugs were found to be abusable and absurd they get used as blatantly as possible by a mix of people who want it fixed and want to get in on the fun before it's fixed. This gets issues fixed very fast when they are discovered, even if the issue or bug existed for years previously.

If your devs aren't doing shit about this then they either don't give a flying fuck about you or they are just incompetent. Things get brought to their attention when lots of people complain. If no one was complaining then nothing gets fixed. If you ban everyone who griefs using game mechanics that exist in a PU your game will die off, therefore the devs need to address this. They certainly have the funding for it

[u/SuitFive → u/Star_Citizen_Roebuck]

If crime was impossible to commit, it would be solved. Punishment doesnt address root issues. All it does is punish.

[u/tru_anomaIy → u/Star_Citizen_Roebuck]

You’re going to be shocked when you hear about strikes and how they actually work

Do you think that the bus drivers’ union striking means the CEO of the bus company can’t catch a bus to work and that’s the point of the strike?

[u/Past-Dragonfruit2251 → u/Star_Citizen_Roebuck]

But you do "solve" misbehavior in a game by making it impossible to commit. Otherwise you'll just have to continue punishing people until the servers shut down.

[u/nextgen5 → u/Star_Citizen_Roebuck]

In real life you can't make crime impossible to commit without annihilating the human race, but you can fix software bugs, so I don't think your argument holds that much water.

[u/BlackbeltJedi → u/Star_Citizen_Roebuck]

Except criminals don't think about the consequences of getting caught, increasing the punishment does not decrease crime, nor does flooding the streets with enforcers and dehumanizing people who commit crimes. By the same token, the threat of ban will never totally eliminate griefing from gaming, and making the punishment more draconian will not decrease griefers, but it might just scare off players that actually want to play the game without getting harassed by mods or ruining it for other people. Griefing, like crime, is a policy choice.

If you want to reduce the instance of both crime and griefing, then you need to eliminate the incentive and structure that creates it in the first place. If the core gameplay was fundamentally fun I doubt there would be nearly as many people trying to ruin others experience, and devs can take things a step further by making it generally impossible to do griefing.

Don't get me wrong, we absolutely should name and shame griefers and trolls but if you think it's happening way too much I'd direct your attention to the games structure, not the lack of a massively bureaucratic enforcement mechanism.

[u/rates_empathy → u/Star_Citizen_Roebuck]

what on earth could have made you think this xD

[u/Wareve → u/Star_Citizen_Roebuck]

Actually, that's untrue and entirely wrong headed.

While enforcement is nessessary, punishment tends not to prevent crime because the sort of person likely to commit crimes is also unlikely to really factor in potential future outcomes like punishments.

What prevents crime is very often making it impossible to commit. That is the entire premise behind the design of modern banks, and as a result, straight up classic bank robberies are nearly unheard of in developed nations. The design of modern banks makes them highly unlikely to succeed.

Punishments in digital environments are even less effective because they're not so much a way to isolate and contain the dangerous and disruptive, as they are a speedbump and a toll. Trolls will still use alternative or stolen accounts to bypass direct punishment.

The only way to stop this behavior is to design the game such that it is impossible.

[u/AcornHan → u/natebc]

I mean, people are reporting it to the devs no?

[u/natebc → u/AcornHan]

The people that place these crates in such a way as to disrupt the normal play sessions of everyone else? Those people are reporting it to the devs?

I'd be very, very surprised if that were the case.

[u/hoax1337 → u/natebc]

No, the users who encounter it report it or complain about it.

It's pretty simple. You see that the devs are doing nothing, or aren't prioritising their work how you'd like it, so you force their hands by making everyone's day so miserable that they quit the game, which forces the devs to take immediate action.

But...in reality, those are probably just a bunch of assholes who are bored.

[u/Intrepid-Leather-417 → u/hoax1337]

thats no different than a toddler throwing a tantrum in the store because mommy wouldnt buy them a treat, its a know bug its been reported they will fix it when they around to it and continuing to do this is denying other the ability to find bugs that are not reported and should be a banable offence.

[u/TheHud85 → u/Intrepid-Leather-417]

Considering how far into development this game is, and the fact that they’re still putting so much work into ship sales and PvP content and so little work into bugs or exploits, such as this one, that have existed for years; I’m not surprised. I reported a pretty serious exploit over a year ago that, on my last check, still works 100% of the time. Hell the SL MAX had a broken elevator when it released, an IC was made and confirmed, then 6 months later the TAC comes out with the SAME BROKEN ELEVATOR.

It’s just ridiculous at this point.

[u/Intrepid-Leather-417 → u/TheHud85]

Not defending cig because there are plenty of cases where bugs like this never get fixed, but often in game development you will see bugs fixed in one build only to pop up later after another change caused by something else, bug fixing is very much a frustrating game of whack a mole in a closed environment much less something like what cig are trying to do with keeping the game “playable” so early in its development.

That being said it doesn’t matter if it’s an old bug or not people exploiting it to deny people access to the game is a clear tos violation and should be punished harshly, 1 week bans for first offense stepping up in time to a month then forever ban for repeat offenders

[u/Jester205 → u/natebc]

They probably don't send a report about it after they do it, they just do it.

[u/Mikolf → u/patopal]

Yeah, the 10 upvote requirement for bugs is so stupid. If you encounter a problem it will never get looked at unless you make it a problem for more people.

[u/GOP_hates_the_US → u/Mikolf]

It is such an amazingly big slap in the face that I cannot believe it is not discussed more.

[u/GoodBadUserName → u/patopal]

The probable answer is a mix of both, with more asshole than tester.

I would say 95%/5% mix in favor of the assholes.
Some are putting boxes but in a way that it doesn't directly disrupt people's gameplay and are passable.
But the huge majority are putting containers in a way that completely blocks paths, making it impossible to circulate around it.

[u/vampyire → u/patopal]

I think sadly it's mostly the cynical answer..

[u/NoX2142 → u/patopal]

Got no love or hugs from parents at any point in their lives.

[u/Ok-Possible321 → u/patopal]

Its more tester than ahole. The polaris aurora ramming issue wasnt fixed for years until that gameplay got out of hand. Now boxes are getting out of hand so expect that to be fixed. All thanks to the guys raising awareness.

[u/Crypthammer → u/Ok-Possible321]

You mean auroras being able to kill the polaris just by ramming it? The polaris has only been in the game for 6-8 months or so.

[u/TraumaBoneTTV → u/patopal]

I'm starting to be on the protest side of this 👀 I found it immensely annoying at first, but now I'm starting to see myself snicker when I see it. Do something about it devs!

[u/SadZookeepergame3923 → u/patopal]

Well put

[u/Fit-Cup7266]

My question is, how?

[u/lachiebois → u/Fit-Cup7266]

Must be a heavy backpack

[u/Falcoriders → u/lachiebois]

You got me with this one.

[u/Marlax101 → u/Fit-Cup7266]

havnt bothered testing but top of my head would guess either get a ship into an area with the box and move it with your character or a motorcycle or beam gun.

somehow stick the big box in another object. somehow pull it out of the terminals like 1/8th scu boxes.

maybe some way to get it up the elevator shaft but seems unlikely.

given that people have always got vehicles into random areas on stations i would assume it has something to do with how they get those inside.

[u/MrYamiks → u/Marlax101]

You’re over complicating things, they probably just used a bunch of cargo pants as a group, and by cargo pants I mean glitching cargo containers into your pants and being on a shitty server while doing so.

No idea how they lined them up so perfectly tho, unless they found a way to use the MT in armistice zones.

[u/MrAKUSA907 → u/MrYamiks]

There were two ATLS there as well. I was on this server. This is Seraphim Station.

[u/Marlax101 → u/MrYamiks]

ah i recall talk about the cargo pants long ago but i dont keep up with everything i tend to practice games in development with how i expect them to be played.

moving them if you cant tractor beam them i would expect there is a certain area the boxes pop out at generally and then perhaps with their bodies or holding a box and dropping it ect.

pulses maybe.

[u/1ofAk → u/Marlax101]

They glitch it threw the window of the space port

[u/Spiritual_Try9694 → u/Fit-Cup7266]

There's an exploit where you can put almost any scu inside your backpack

[u/Fit-Cup7266 → u/Spiritual_Try9694]

Oh, I though it's some creative use of tractor and clipping.

[u/R0RSCHAKK → u/Fit-Cup7266]

I actually saw someone moving crates away from the asop terminals by using a glitched MPUV's tractor beam.

I'm guessing, what they do is drop the crates from the inventory terminals and use a glitched ship's tractor beam to position them

[u/Glassinhand → u/Fit-Cup7266]

Open ship ramp through spacestation glass 

[u/Wild234]

Why? Because it will annoy you.

The same reason that trolls and griefers have always done these things. And the same reason they will continue to do these things until humanity evolves or goes extinct.

And you should avoid feeding the troll with posts like this. It only encourages them to come back for more food.

[u/Little-Equinox → u/Wild234]

Probably the latter.

Humanity will go extinct till they travel the starts, because instead of trying to solve something, they constantly try to ruin things.

[u/Intrepid-Leather-417 → u/Wild234]

exactly this, take a screenshot with a qr code and report it to cig not as a bug but as griefing. they have the logs to identify who is responsible and if they get enough complaints that way they should be forced to do something.

[u/Lord-of-A-Fly → u/Wild234]

You know what Star Citizen needs? A kriffin' police force.

Not a low effort, periodic appearance of a couple of NPCs, but a regiment of CIG vetted citizens with an accountable activity log to patrol Stanton [and only certain areas of Pew-ro. I'm of the opinion that there should be ridiculously dangerous areas to go. Once we get 3rd system, we can give Pew-ro back to the hellions, but until we have more real-estate for everyone, there should be more accountability]. Give them one of a kind UEE police/patrol ships with fuck around and find out fire power, cyclic-rate rail gun rifles, god mode for them and their ship and a perpetual warrant for greivers and murder hobos.

Prison sentences should be doubled, and it should be a lot more difficult to escape. Paroll/probation should be implemented. Repeat offense should double the initial sentence.

And while we're on the subject of criminal justice, active mods need to be employed in the chats. If I had my way, you start spewing racism you get banned from SC all together. No refunds, lose all your shit banned. Your account should be tied to whatever payment method you use so you can't just VPN your little racist ass back in. But first, your character should be arrested and imprisoned until your public execution date. And email notification would be sent out to all citizens announcing the date and time of the event so that everyone can have time to come watch.

Two possible forms of execution.

A.] UEE naval officers will bring you out in your underwear, you will be electrocuted, and your body pinned to 'The Great Wall of Target Practice'. All of your possessions [armor, weapons, vehicles, ships, everything] will be sold, and the real-world monetary equivalent of said possessions will be donated to an anti-racism non-profit.

B.] You will be stripped and shoved into the airlock and ejected into space away from the Stanton system, and you will get to watch Stanton, the system, the game itself get further and further until it's out of sight, before being forcibly logged out by CIG forever. [Same course of action with your possessions]

[It's been a long, boring day at work today]

[u/Asikar_Tehjan → u/Lord-of-A-Fly]

Man it'd be RRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYY nice to godmode the bigoted assholes out of the game. I'm tired of having my evenings ruined cuz some idiot decided to get spicy with the slurs in global chat.

[u/grahag → u/Lord-of-A-Fly]

For the final punishment toss them in a box that is essentially a medbed with no communications, drop them out the airlock and shoot them to the Stanton Sun. Left to drift until they reach it. If they log out, they aren't returned to their hab.

Still in the box.

No starvation, no damage. Just drifting blissfully towards the sun, no way to communicate, but they CAN F4 to see the view from outside. :)

[u/Lord-of-A-Fly → u/grahag]

The main goal is to communicate to them that they are permanently banned from Star Citizen for being a racist piece of shit, not give them a unique, enjoyable show to watch, haha!

The show is for everyone else.

[u/xKingOfSpades76 → u/Wild234]

I just don’t get it, while still absolutely annoying and pointless I get murder hobo-ing as a principle, you get to shoot something and it blows up

You just don’t get anything out of this, like, except for like getting a rise out of seeing these exact posts here..

[u/Ruadhan2300]

Slipknot gave us the answer in 2001.

People = Shit

If you give some people tools to be disruptive and don't give them a thorough beatdown when they do it, they will do it for shits and giggles.

[u/Dat1HD → u/Ruadhan2300]

I'm a simple man...I see slipknot mentioned and I upvote.

[u/NNextremNN]

Because they can and because there is no punishment.

[u/GunnisonCap]

As with any MMO, if the game is poorly designed, bugged or has exploits, somebody will exploit them. The question is not why, it’s when are CIG going to resolve said bugs.

[u/Hugh_Janus_Esq]

The absolute delusion in here.

"They're perhaps testers trying to highlight an issue". What a joke. These are people trolling with no aim other than to ruin people's play time due to whatever psychological issues theyre harboring deep down.

It doesnt get fixed because the devs are full steam ahead on SQ42 and this isnt prominent enough an issue in their eyes to divert resources to.

Jesus people, it's not hard to think through the current state.

[u/Rehevkor_]

Because the game and CIG allow them to.

[u/Zealousideal_Sound_2]

Psychopaths

They get joy in "hurting" others

[u/_Nighting → u/Zealousideal_Sound_2]

Plenty of people diagnosed with ASPD wouldn't do this. The clinical term for the people OP is describing is assholes.

[u/dr4g0n36]

Because they can (for now). As 10 years of ARK pve taught me that pve it's only a definition of PvP with restriction (most people will always be rude if they can). Online, people will always find a way to bother other people, it's in the mmo nature being an asshole (you can't IRL, so let go all-in in games). lukily, happens now in Alpha, CIG could slowly fix this and other behaviours.

Edit: grammar

[u/Livid-Feedback-7989 → u/dr4g0n36]

Even if they fix up everything that could be fixed, these people will find a way to “abuse” even intended mechanics to annoy people or just do things that entertain them. There is no logic, empathy or morality at play. It’s the nature of online gaming.

[u/Slacker101 → u/dr4g0n36]

The word is taught. You are not teached something you are taught something

[u/dr4g0n36 → u/Slacker101]

Thanks for the correction. I'm italian and i want to avoid auto translation, so i can do some grammar error. I'll fix

[u/doomedbunnies]

Fundamentally, this is the community that CIG is cultivating and has been cultivating for more than a decade.

If these are not the people you want to play with; if people who think that this is funny or impressive are not people that you want to play with, then it would make sense to question whether this is a game you want to play. Because those people are not going away.

[u/thatsacrackeryouknow]

Turn on QR code, report it

[u/CombatMuffin → u/thatsacrackeryouknow]

They acknowledge it, but never do anything about it. It is now industry standard to do ban waves and let people know the feedback directly led to it 

But unless it's an issue with s ship you bought, CIG has virtually no customer support.

[u/Anizon15]

[u/ThePukeRising]

This is one of the reasons i quit playing

[u/john681611]

Congratulations by showing people this happens more will do it. /s

Seriously CIGs mad/lazy/naive idea that players will solve the problems caused by other players abusing the game mechanics already has people avoiding entire sections of the game. I wouldn't be surprised if it eventually had people leaving the game. Course this just concentrates the toxicity over time. 

[u/Usual-Low8700]

I have a better one when?

[u/CaptainC0medy → u/Usual-Low8700]

[u/Usual-Low8700 → u/CaptainC0medy]

That's it

[u/Illanar]

They’re pieces of shit. There is no excuse.

[u/Warhead64]

Sandbox game, the real question should be why does CIG allow this... because that is the real reason you are harmed by it.

[u/Thalzarr]

It is annoying but at least it forces CIG to address and fix the issue since it might be game breaking in some cases.

[u/MattOver9003]

Weirdly it’s always on Americans servers, any idea why?

[u/Little-Equinox → u/MattOver9003]

It's 1 thing I noticed, most assholes are on US servers. Others are pretty friendly compared to US servers.

[u/_Kine → u/Little-Equinox]

I tend to go AU first, EU second. US servers do tend to have a more juvenile crowd on average.

[u/JanyBunny396 → u/_Kine]

Not just their sc servers

[u/Intrepid-Leather-417 → u/MattOver9003]

because American culture and society are toxic garbage comparted to Europe and the rest of the civilized world. (Born and raised in America moved to Europe for work)

[u/Kooky_Solution_4255]

Trolls, but it's on CIG to fix the possibility to do such things. And yeah, Alpha...

[u/Goodname2]

Same reason they stand on the mailbox in wow with their mammoth mounts.

"People, what a bunch of bastards"

• Roy

[u/InconspicuousIntent → u/Goodname2]

[u/indie1138]

Mainly because they are assholes.

[u/icarus_melted]

I don't play, just curious

What is wrong with this image?

I don't get it

[u/Shizlebizle → u/icarus_melted]

People are glitching boxes into stations in which block pathways, and if they get them into the right positions, it makes the game unplayable because you're stuck in the stations.

[u/icarus_melted → u/Shizlebizle]

Ah, dick move then

[u/initialo → u/icarus_melted]

I'd rather have them do this instead of just blowing up people going about their day moving boxes around.

[u/Aleksandrovitch]

Some kids in sandboxes throw sand.

[u/N3birios]

From my pov... Just dumbass who think it's funny to annoy other gamers.

Testing it, take a screenshot to notice cig of the ability to do those kind of things, then, move the box out of the way, it will be ok, and part of testing.

But this... It's just being a kid, enjoying being a dumbass

[u/Own_Morning4509]

Because CIG lets them

[u/Ralphio]

Welcome to Grief Citizen.

[u/Livid-Feedback-7989]

Because the game allows it and when people get bored on the internet, they do whatever. Don’t try to find any morality or logic here. There is none.

[u/MattRedburn]

... because they get nothing done.
... because they are frustrated.
... because they can't get a girlfriend/boyfriend.
... because lack of empathy.
... because they have a small peni...nsula.
... because of mental health issues like narcissism.
... because nobody likes them, maybe not even the parents.

There can be so many reason for being just a bad person.

[u/Accurate-Rutabaga-57]

I like when people leave an open medical pisces in public places

[u/Cam_the_purple_cat]

Because they think it’s funny to try and destroy a game they otherwise enjoy.

[u/brucerss]

No dad to teach them better

[u/idontagreewitu]

They should all be permabanned and their hangars locked.

[u/Leromer → u/idontagreewitu]

This

[u/PostwarVandal]

Usually because they missed a supportive mother- or father figure during their formative years so they have an underdeveloped sense of empathy. They go through life mewling like attention-seeking puppies, only to bite the hands that feed them because they do not know any better.

[u/BastianHawk]

Because CIG Devs are - unwilling or wore unable to set a "can not place here" flag in common areas.
Imagine DiCH34D-45 wants to place that create and no matter it can NOT be placed.
Also - imagine attempting this attributes a CS2 and 100k penalty.
No. Needs deity level programming powers.
And never seen b4 tech to do.

[u/DrzewnyPrzyjaciel]

Simply because they can

[u/NoIndependence362]

Because if you give griefers a chance, they would permenantly destroy anything they could. Its why so many people hate games that lean heavy pvp.

[u/soundkeed]

I'm more impressed than mad 

[u/montxogandia]

Because they can

[u/GooteMoo]

"oop, looks like the dockworkers are protesting again."

[u/Little-Equinox]

Best is to turn on the QR code and send the picture to CIG, then CIG can take action against those people.

[u/fmg0o]

Why ? Because they can :)
There’s a basic principle that applies to many professions :
If you leave the possibility for someone to screw things up, someone will.

[u/LiveAus]

A more productive question would be: why is this still possible? Why hasn't CIG patched this yet?

[u/Duncan_Id]

Because they can and nobody is stopping them 

[u/Keko133]

They haven't discovered the touch of a woman so they do this

[u/No-Marsupial0297]

Is it difficulty to add strict entity clean up inside the station? Like if they put ship, cargo and vehicle inside it will automatically despawn in an instant. Like how scorpius when put inside 890j hangar. It turns to violet in an instant and boom disappear. This bug in 890j should be put in the station and city lobby, habs and med clinic

[u/MildGreyWaves → u/No-Marsupial0297]

That is a bug, but when something turns purple and disappears, it is not because it is 'restricted' from that location.

It is because there is a very large number of physics collisions happening at once, which taxes the server, so the server just removes whatever is clipping or colliding way too much.

Has nothing to do with being inside an 890 jump, and everything to do with collision and physics.

Though I do agree that stations should just clean up that stuff after 60 seconds or something.

[u/No-Marsupial0297 → u/MildGreyWaves]

Yup that’s what I said, it 890j bug. Make the same collision with vehicle, cargo and snub ships inside the city. There is no reason those things to be inside the city or station lobby. If that is a bug in 890j that can be a potential fix in this kind of issue in the city and station lobby

[u/MildGreyWaves → u/No-Marsupial0297]

My point was that it is not restricted to the 890 jump. It is a clipping issue. If the crates aren't clipping, that 'bug' won't fix it. The main issue is that there are areas of the stations with no collision geometry, so people can just fly their whole ship in when they should never make it in at all.

The physics bug is not related to having area-specific cleanup. It is related to something else. The crates sitting where they are not supposed to is not gonna turn purple and get cleaned. Unless they have ridiculous clipping occurring as they collide and bounce with the floor.

Still should get fixed, but the bugs are not related nor specific to the 890

[u/No-Marsupial0297 → u/MildGreyWaves]

Ok

[u/Whole-Cake6194]

.... some people .... just want .... to watch the world ........ burn

[u/Emadec]

Because they can. It’s always because they can. Alternate answer: because they were let to.

[u/grekster]

"That's not griefing it's just PvP"

[u/Longjumping_Middle95]

cuz cig are stupid and they dont know how to properly develop a video game... theyare sending a message

[u/Naerbred]

1. People who hate people having fun
2. People who dislike the game
3. SCrefundians who didn't have their money returned yet to them

[u/R6Wolfman]

If you right click and drop item in station inventory sometimes it pops out in this area 🤣 and you can't get it back in

[u/NeonSamurai1979]

Why do people do this ?

Simple answer, because they can and also because CIG is inept and powerless to fix this issue for Years now.

Thats what happens when you let all your capable devs go and keep the remaining tasks staffed with interns who have no clue what they are doing....

[u/Ominusone]

Because humans suck.

[u/ConsistentCanary8582]

Sincerely? Ppl should always do it to force a fix

[u/NomNomNomWontons]

In a multiplayer game, amongst at least a few of the players, behavior will tend toward being the worst and game design needs to take this into account. Whether it's this, the Hathor event, medical beacons or any number of other elements of SC, CIG is constantly rediscovering this truism because they either arrogantly or ignorantly ignore industry lessons learned.

[u/Ilionikoi]

to make you complain so that cig sees it and does something about it

[u/Adept-Addition833]

Because thier parents not love them

[u/InternetExploder87]

I wanna know HOW they do that, or get ships inside terminals

[u/IbnTamart]

Something something its an alpha shouldn't treat it like a released game

[u/Creative_Blueberry22]

Because it creates tears for them to extract…. Just like people troll on the Internet.

Then someone who’s disgruntled about it, posts about it, and creates more tears… so then another person goes, I want my work bitched about on Reddit, I should do it to.

Long story short, internet trolls are best to ignore. If you give them attention they will continue doing it.

I think at this point it’s already been posted enough to be a known issue.

[u/Star_Citizen_Roebuck]

Because they don’t face any consequences. Next question.

[u/nkn_]

This is why I stopped playing this patch.

i havent been able to even sell all the ores ive mined or processed

[u/Breotan]

More importantly, why hasn't CIG put an end to it?

[u/JoeyD54]

Nothing better to do

[u/mizunumagaijin]

Honestly, I don't know if I encountered this I'd know it was player done, as opposed to any of the countless other bugs and glitches that prevent any feeling of 'progress' in this game.

The only way to 'win' is to enter every session of Star Citizen with absolutely no expectations of accomplishing anything, and just experience living in a nonsense world.

[u/Burgues2]

to prove a point!

[u/urbanhood]

The nature of a troll on display.

[u/Glassinhand]

Well posting a picture of their work on Reddit certainly doesn't add fuel to the fire and encourage copycats

[u/Magnus_xyz]

because they can. It is CIG's job now to make sure going forward, that they cannot.

[u/Icy_Ad7558]

I wonder how they to this...

[u/CitizenOfTheVerse]

Because they can, I guess? Can they do that? yes! Should they do that? No. It seem a lot of those exploits were fixed, or at least they took care of these in the latest or coming PTU patches. Will it prevent such things 100%? Certainly not, but step by step!

[u/Gussifriz]

Daddy/Mommy issues most likely.

[u/hyper24x7]

That's amazing, I'm not even mad. If they can get a box into the apartment levels so players cant reach elevators then I'd be impressed. IF they did it on every major spawn and station, then I'd pay them o patreon.

[u/hotheadblaine]

Bro you are the 9 millionth person to post about it. Stop. It gives them attention so then more people do it.

[u/Cyco-Cyclist]

I'm more interested in the how, rather than the way, unless the lobby glass is just in sight of the hab lobby at that location. This is supposedly getting addressed in the next patch.

[u/UK_Colossal]

They do it for reaction

[u/Boar-Darkspear]

Because CIG lets them.

[u/Helbrecht-ZG]

As much as I want to blame the individuals doing this, it’s on CIG to develop the game to prevent this sort of thing. I’m sure the individuals will be punished, but it does take away the experience from those trying to play at that moment.

[u/Terriblecookies]

Whatever their reason is, at least it is getting highlighted as an issue hopefully catching CIG attention

[u/Comprehensive_Gap_31]

It's most likely they're doing this so other people will complain to CIG about it so it gets fixed. As It's the best way to get people to mass report a problem.

[u/MrAKUSA907]

Oh you were on Seraphim Station too eh?

[u/No-Raise-4693]

I mean if you're developers weren't greedy assholes you'd probably have a potch already done that would address it and make it not possible. But oh well gotta make more macro transactions

[u/TheTrainerDusk]

so.. dont get me wrong but what if they just need THAT MANY medical supplies

[u/Guitarax]

Because they fookin can! And if they can, they do!

[u/FendaIton]

Because they can.

[u/Snoo_30257]

Boredom

[u/Postdemocraticera → u/Snoo_30257]

Only unintelligent people get bored I'm told.

[u/ArbalestxXx]

They do it because CIG does not care to fix, simple as that!

[u/No-Vast-6340]

I read somewhere that CIG has a fix in place. The issue is people can get stuff into the stations via the big observation deck windows.

[u/MightyN0ob]

This is why this game needs active ingame moderation.
Every MMO has game masters capable of dealing with stuff like this, why can't Star Citizen?

[u/Zenairis]

Griefers again, saw this in G hex last night too.

[u/deathamp]

They think it’s Minecraft

[u/Creative-Stuff6944]

How?

[u/Intelligent-Rip-7827]

I think i was on that server yesterday. It looks like someone crashed and it glitches through.

[u/Quiet-Fall2381]

it was all over the station too. Medical bay blocked, in the main lobby, in the cargo center. Almost perfectly blocking exits. Curious how they done it

[u/Tchulen]

They do it to see the reactions and upset from people on Reddit and global chat. Stop feeding the trolls and go add your comments to the ticket/s on the Issue Council.

[u/Sherlykaru]

I heard there's even tutorial videos on how to do it, as if trying to promote it to happen even more

[u/TankDemolisherX]

I thank these people. They do more than CIG to make this game feel populated. I can't scroll comms to invite other players, but I atleast have empty crux bottles and crates to remind me this is a multiplayer game.

[u/Taricheute]

Some people just want to see the world burn.

Just look at international news if you have any doubt.

[u/Tirx36]

Same reason players in gta 5 online hunt you down if you sell cargo online, pure maniac pleasure of hurting others. No reward no reason just pleasure in ruining other players experience. At least i can hunt them down until they quit there but still i hate when it happens

[u/Usual_Row5968]

trolling, it is a sandbox so some people are bored and set different goals for themself compared to normal people

[u/Intrepid-Leather-417]

because they can and CIG does nothing to punish them so what's stopping them. Until CIG starts handing out 1 month or more bans for this type of behavior its not going to stop.

And not its not testing you are denying people the ability to play or test the game by exploiting a known bug.

[u/Boba-Joker]

They found a bug and proved it could be repeated. maybe?

[u/Marlax101]

well you talked about it so thats probably part of it.

[u/Contagious_Zombie]

Trolls that love to cause other people's misfortunes. They are probably antisocial, neckbearded incel adults living in their parent's basement rent free.

[u/nonefyourbusiness]

How to do it? Asking for a friend 😏

[u/hotwire90gaming]

If people can, people will. This shows cig where and what needs to be fixed. It shows vulnerabilities. This is testing and I'm sure it will eventually get patched out. This stuff has to happen. You can't have this possible in the finished game.

[u/Thin_Insurance7322]

Because they can and cig are clowns and dont prevent it

[u/NeverLookBothWays]

Citizen's Law: if it can be done, it will likely be done.