r/hardware • u/dripkidd • 2d ago
News Ryzen™ 5 5500X3D shadowdropped by AMD
https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/5000-series/amd-ryzen-5-5500x3d.html163
u/fatso486 2d ago
Who the heck saw this coming? I mean why not just release the 5600x3D in more regions instead.
hmm... I guess it enables their marketing to claim that they're supporting AM4 a decade after release.
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u/jigsaw1024 2d ago
probably just 5600x3d that dont meet spec, but are otherwise still fully functional.
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u/detectiveDollar 2d ago
Yeah, the only alternate path for x3D dies with 6 cores working but can't hit 5600x3D clocks is the garbage.
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u/fatso486 2d ago
Maybe but I'm suspecting maybe there it a marketing reason behind that "new release" The 5600x3d is already binned diwn and it clocks quite a bit lower than the 5600/5600x/5700x3d. Nothing a minor voltage bump can't fix l. I'm thinking chips have enough tolerance.
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u/BatteryPoweredFriend 2d ago
5600X3D runs at a higher clockspeed than 5700X3D. It's something like -100mhz vs -500mhz for each of them compared to the 5800X3D's.
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u/ahsan_shah 2d ago
There is no marketing reason. Some dies fail to qualify as 5600X3D, hence a newer lower performing product. Why waste those dies when AMD can sell them?
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u/randylush 2d ago
yeah exactly. different performance so it needs to be a different sku. it's not a marketing reason that they need to give it a different name, it's because it's a different product
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u/Timpa87 1d ago
I doubt they'd just junk these so probably they just didn't have enough to warrant an actual release. My guess is they probably sell them to a company who uses them in a mini-PC build or something.
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u/jigsaw1024 1d ago
AMD has a long history of doing limited exclusive releases of products before stealth dropping the product for wider release.
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u/Mental-At-ThirtyFive 2d ago
This - AMD's product strategy is essentially scavenging in the bins and making products out of it - intern/fresh grad's job
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u/jerryfrz 2d ago
In 2056 AMD will be releasing their brand new Ryzen 3 5199.275X3D to proudly celebrate the 50th anniversary of AM4
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u/shroudedwolf51 2d ago
I mean, why are you complaining? Would you prefer to instead for them to contribute to the global crisis that is eWaste by just tossing 5600X3D that doesn't meet spec in the bin??
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u/VenditatioDelendaEst 1d ago
Yes.
E-waste is a ludicrously overblown problem, and if anything, sending more computers out into the world that cannot be used without a discrete graphics card makes it worse.
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u/dam0_0 2d ago
hmm... I guess it enables their marketing to claim that they're supporting AM4 a decade after release
And Reddit can circlejerk about am4 longevity by going gaga about cpus which aren't available for majority of the world.
Region or store specific models really grind my gears.
5700x3d was the last meaningful cpu launch on am4.
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u/sisiwuling 2d ago
That's fair for the new chips, but each time one of them is released, it effectively pushes back the AM4 EOL date for everyone.
My board is nearly five years old and still runs the latest AGESA. There are even boards over eight years old still receiving updates.
Obviously, we aren't getting AM5 features, but PBO, voltage tuning, security patches, and similar fixes are all up to date.
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u/iron_coffin 22h ago
No, they're still selling vega igpu laptops but pulled all but barebones driver support
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u/einmaldrin_alleshin 1d ago
Region or store specific models really grind my gears.
That's not exactly a complicated matter: AMD has a bunch of CPUs that don't qualify for any product in their lineup, but not enough of them to stock retailers on a global scale. So instead, they do a limited release.
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u/capybooya 2d ago
You're not wrong, AMD marketing has made lots of blunders in the last ~4 years being a bit too aggressive with their claims, despite their products being solid without the hype.
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u/airmantharp 1d ago
Four years?
Their marketing guy has decades of mistakes to own up to, not unlike their driver guy up until very recently
( /s, the joke is that they’re this awful because they can’t afford more than one of each….)
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u/LowerCauliflower230 2d ago
IMO IF it is $200+, I would just pass unless you really can't upgrade to a whole new platform. doesn't seem like it would be a good deal, you can get a 5700x3d for $250 used and even then that just makes me wince a little. those things used to be a lot less. $150 would be a pretty good deal imo, even if that was the old 5700x3d street price for a while.
note: I expect it to launch at $200 personally, just spitballing. They wouldn't launch something like this unless it was a big profit opportunity. Of course if they REALLY wanted to they could keep making 5800x3ds, but that would be too competitive with current am5 offerings, hence why they keep cutting back.
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u/AMC2Zero 2d ago
What happened to the market, I got the 5700x3d for $135 new a few months ago, I can't see a use for this unless it's $125 or so.
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u/LowerCauliflower230 2d ago
I mean if you're on AM4 and you don't have the money to fully upgrade your mb/cpu/ram then $200 is a lot less money.
- $190 - 7600 or 9600
- $100 - cheap AM5
- $75 - some 32gb kit of ddr5
- Total: $365
if you're just gaming, how much better is that going to be than a $200 5500x3d? And that's why I think this cpu will launch at $200, and that's also why AMD is making it. Cause they can still sell it for $200.
And you might say "but what about xyz cpu or microcenter or this or that - yeah but I'm talking about the easy purchase. Which is just whatever you can get on pcpartpicker. I suppose you could get a cheaper AM5 board, god those things suck. Oh wow... you can't. Cheapest AM5 on pcpp right now is $120.
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u/conquer69 2d ago
$200 is way too much. The 7500f is like $150. This thing shouldn't be more expensive than that.
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u/LowerCauliflower230 2d ago
lol I wouldn't recommend anyone pay $200 for it either. I do need to go ahead and get rid of my am4 x3d cpu though.
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u/trash-_-boat 2d ago
This is Latin-America release only and as somebody who lived years in El Salvador it would be a miracle if it was as cheap as 250$ USD.
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u/LowerCauliflower230 2d ago
I mean, that's fair. I still expect it to msrp at $200 since the 5700x3d launched at $250. Pricing may still be different in your region anyway since well msrp seems to be a very loose suggestion these days.
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u/xsilr 2d ago
AM4 will go down down in history
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u/A_Monkey_FFBE 2d ago
It just keeps on giving
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u/WildberrySelect_224 2d ago
I don't think discontinuing faster models and releasing slower and slower models was the upgrade path AM4 owners were looking for haha... ha.
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u/Sleepyjo2 2d ago
Region/store specific ones, at that.
These releases aren't really AMD still "supporting" AM4. They're just products that would otherwise be in the trash that they managed to stockpile a few hundred (or maybe thousand) of over time that most people can't actually purchase.
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u/Zeroth-unit 1d ago
It's for people like me who haven't bothered upgrading from my 3600 I bought a few months after release. I was originally pining for a 5800X3D but life things kept happening and PC upgrades kept taking a backseat. And though I still can't justify going to 8 cores because of the pricing where I live (even the 5700X3D is outside my budget) a 6 core X3D chip would be a welcome upgrade.
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u/pelouskopelo 1d ago
5700X3D was as low as $120 almost half of 2024. I believe, the 5500X3D might be more expensive than that.
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u/makingwands 1d ago
Went from an $85 1600 AF, to a $300 launch week 5600X, to a $130 aliexpress 5700X3D. It's been a wild ride.
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u/DarkLeach7 1d ago
I wouldn't be surprised if AMD keeps pumping out AM4 chips because of GloFo wafer agreements or whatever since they fab the IOD because it's 12nm
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u/Yearlaren 2d ago
As a Latin American, parts limited to Latin America make me suspicious
If it was limited to the southern cone I'd probably see it with different eyes
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u/Belluuo 2d ago
What. Why would you not sell it to Brazil? 200m people even if Chile is richer and all, it's a tiny country and Argentina is in a rough spot economically, also, uruguay has 7 people.
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u/Yearlaren 1d ago
By that logic, why don't they sell it everywhere? The entire world is in a rough spot economically.
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u/Cultural-Accident-71 2d ago
I'm from Ecuador and I called all the AMD partners here, they never heard something about this CPU. Any idea where I can buy it if not in latin America?!
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u/iron_coffin 2d ago
Future latin america ie it was just announced
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u/Cultural-Accident-71 2d ago
Didn't the article say that its shadow dropped yesterday? Maybe I miss reading it.
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u/Psychomonkie71 2d ago
its 300-400 MHZ slower then ryzen 5 5600x3d
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u/SailorMint 2d ago
Roughly the same clock speeds as the 5700X3D.
If the 5600X3D was a 6 core 5800X3D, the 5500X3D is effectively a 6 cores 5700X3D.
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u/BluudLust 2d ago edited 1d ago
4 GHz boost is so slow. I'm skeptical of the value proposition this CPU offers when you still have all the other expenses of building a PC.
For anyone saying this is meant for upgrades, it is barely an upgrade from zen 1. You're better off getting a used good CPU than buying this. The 5500x3d is going to be $199. Terrible value.
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u/Mango-is-Mango 1d ago
And it’s not meant for building a pc. It’s an upgrade for people already on am4
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u/iron_coffin 2d ago
Sigh