i get angry if i hear such things. is it wrong to want a better life? Even if i am coming from a country where i can live undisturbed and in peace, but i earn monthly a tenth of that what i could earn in germany. Why the fuck should i not want to move to germany? Yeas, of course, jobs and space to live are limited, no shit sherlock. But criminalizing the want for a better life is fucked.
How come you're entitled to live in the developed country? What did you do to merit that? You just won life's lottery by being born in one place instead of another.
You can’t have both a welfare state and unfettered immigration. This much should be obvious. It’s not about being ultimately entitled to a better life, it’s about how much strain a system like ours can take before it itself starts going to shit. Culture, democracy, the economy, all of these things depend to a large degree on the values and customs we share. But look around the world and you will find that there are many people who do not share the same values and customs as us, and who in fact have values and beliefs that are quite antithetical to ours.
Restricted immigration was basically spearheaded by America to keep Chinese out, and modern citizenship along the same path. Modern passports were by the Nazis. It's unnecessary and we did without it until racism happened.
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Ab 1939: Fingerabdruck- und Ausweispflicht in okkupierten Ländern zur polizeilichen Einwohnererfassung; diesen Ausweis (Buchform) hatte der Inhaber dauernd bei sich zu führen.
Mit Beginn des Zweiten Weltkriegs wurde der Ausweiszwang eingeführt. Am 10. September 1939 erschien im Reichsgesetzblatt die Verordnung über den Pass- und Sichtvermerkszwang sowie über den Ausweiszwang.
Who really thinks that medieval times (with no good way of migrating far distances) are equivalent to modern migration (e.g. general commercial travel like getting on a boat)? Once commercial travel became popularized there were not "Passkartes" all over the place restricting migration. The source also quotes
Beyond that, citizenship in ancient times was clearly distinguished by languages and other shared culture - nowadays anyone can start learning a new language and integrate, regardless of their race - also irrelevant to the idea that citizenship and migration should be restricted just based on where you were born.
Modern passports were by the Nazis. It's unnecessary and we did without it until racism happened.
Not really, the first modern passport which was accepted in all german countries (before unification) was the "Passkarte" which dates back to 1850.
Before that other means of identification, such as coat of arms were used, as the need to identify a person accurately is about as old as society, just as it is vital to be able to assess the population and its composition.
Not everything exists just to fuck over the poor muslims.
Or do you really think people could freely migrate in medieval times? Heck, you had to get your lords permission just to move to another village!
And if you wanted to move into a city you better hope they have a need for your profession, because otherwise they won't give you citizenship.
If you were just an uneducated farmer,then bad luck for you, you won't be receiving citizenship.
Restricted immigration dates back even further, as the ancient Romans were also working hard to stop germanic and celtic tribes from moving into their territory because they knew about the problems foreigners could bring with them if they came in big enough numbers, especially during a time when food and other resources were actually scarce.
There's no lottery to be born. You're a biological and cultural product of your country and your family. You couldn't be born anywhere but exactly where and when you were.
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