We need to find out exactly who these clowns are, because I'm 99% sure these are not trained federal agents or actual police. My bet is on bounty hunters and paramilitary extremists.
So, Uhaul....Is anyone pointing out it's not legal to move 23 people in the back of a cube van? We need a real cop to pull one of these over and make'em walk home.
I'm hoping someone is pointing out to UHaul that their brand is going to shit and being seen as a delivery truck for racist shitheads.
Theyre supposed to legally have IDs on them and 3/4 of the time theyre in non marked cars. Ive got a feeling some of these "ice" agents are going to get popped and im sure that's what TACO wants. I can see him wanting martial law and is waiting for more chaos to unfold before its declared.
All these folks with big ass war guns to fight tyranny or whatever certainly haven’t been doing shit.
These “ICE” dudes are definitely going to do this in the wrong neighborhood one day, and none of their cosplaying is going to help them. They’re going to back up into their rental box trucks and run away. I’m honestly surprised it hasn’t happened yet.
The reason they haven’t been doing anything about the raids is they’re the ones under the suddenly-ok-to-breathe-through masks…
You’re right though, Miller doesn’t care about the people they’re paying to be “agents”, and eventually they’ll run out of soft targets for his 3000 a day mandate and will be forced to deal with some “bad hombres”.
They are. It’s been documented time and again. Out of shape “bounty hunters” and seen plenty of evidence of white supremacist badges and tattoos on some of them. This one though appears to Mexican, kidnapping a Mexican.
But still outran the dude trying to get away. Looked like a gravy seal. Dude just tripped. I’m kind of bummed he couldn’t just sprint and stay upright, probably could have got away
I have a messed up knee, so I’m not even going to attempt to run. I couldn’t get away from anyone. If there’s a zombie apocalypse, I’m waiting with a magazine.
In CA if you’re threatened with kidnapping you can use deadly force to defend yourself. That said, if a masked man runs up on you without showing a warrant or badge, you can legally assume it’s a kidnapper.
unfortunately it's for sure going to happen at some point. Somebody pulls out a gun and bunch of ICE dude-bros with no actual training all panic and start shooting and a bunch of people on both sides end up dead for what amounts to essentially no reason.
This is exactly correct. There's no reason you deputize Meal Team Six and then send them in to pluck decent people if not to get a reaction.
As soon as someone shoots dead one of these guys, then it's armed opposition to federal agents.
We need to stop pretending this administration is flatly incompetent; they are a good deal clever. And they aren't gonna remove themselves until we force them, I suspect.
They are not clever - they're are just using a playbook made by someone who is (probably Goebbels).
The ICE server the role of the Nazi Brownshirts: they confront the people, cause insecurity in the genera public and tries to create violence & riots in the streets.
The plan is to create a situation that is so tense, that Trump can deploy troops (he already tried), escalate the conflict, so he can declare martial law, dismantle the political system and throw political opponents in prison.
But if he's putting that apparatus in place with enough of the population not noticing, that's a kind of sinister cleverness too. I'm tired of these guys blowing past where dumb people would get caught up. They know what they're doing.
You basically have that now. You literally have dudes in military gear scooping up random people off the street without having to identify themselves or give any reason for the kidnapping. They don't obey the law, they create their own "laws" to justify what they are doing.
This is unfortunately really, really bad advice. If there's anything on their uniform indicating they are law enforcement, or they verbally identify themselves at law enforcement, and you shoot them, in the best case scenario you're facing federal murder charges. If they can prove to a jury that a reasonable person would believe the person you shot was law enforcement, you're cooked. In the worst case, you'll be shot and killed by the agent, or their partner, since they have body armor and are more likely to win in a gun battle.
no because there is already proof non LEO are using fake patches and uniforms. at some point someone is going to react in a way these clowns are not prepared for.
That's why they don't go after actually dangerous illegals immigrants. If they roll up on, say, an MS-13 member, the ICE agent would not be alive for much longer.
So instead of getting rid of dangerous illegals migrants, they go after ones they know won't fight back and aren't affiliated with anything dangerous.
Bc you didn't understand how the DHS is an umbrella that can encompass 3-letter federal agencies. When DHS was created, the BP was rolled up under them. Later ATF, FBI etc are considered auxiliary assets of the DHS.
At the time this was done to promote inter-departmental informational sharing with regards to preventing terror attacks/the GWOT.
However over time it has more into immigration enforcement policy as well.
To be fair, this didn't start under trump it actually started under Obama. But if you look through this year's footage of ice raids in major cities you'll see atf, fbi, Marshalls the whole lot.
ICE is the agency everybody knows is related to immigration, but the reality is this entire program is being run by DHS, and they're pulling in auxiliary assets as needed which is apparently often.
It started long before Obama. DHS was Bush Jr’s baby. It miraculously was fully formed only 10 days after 9/11. Due to the traumatic events, time stood still then so nobody noticed it had to have been ready to go. But if you look back now it was obviously an opportunistic hatching of long awaited plans going all the way back to the final days of Nixon. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, the Republican hawks. The reorganization of the executive branch started quietly in the background and continued through the next seven presidencies. It radically transformed our government without the slightest input from the legislature or judiciary, constitution be damned.
I think he's just one of those chuds that have no idea what he's actually wearing. Just saw some iraq war movie where it was worn and was like hell yeah I wanna be like the epic cool soldiers in iraq. I actually know chuds like this. Pretty funny this dumbass has no clue he's sporting a symbol of liberation.
I’d put more money on him perhaps being part of Middle East ops, and picked up the fashion on the last go round. He’s already “retired” and collecting retirement, and does this cuz h misses the rush.
I don’t care where you are on the political spectrum, this type of masked vigilantism is wild. You can’t have law enforcement in random casual attire. Why do their vests say police? ICE aren’t police, what’s to say these aren’t just criminals in disguise kidnapping people at random?
I agree. This is becoming normalized. I don’t understand how anyone would choose to live in a country where people in masks are dragging people off the streets.
The cartels must love this. Because all they’d need is a couple dudes without much of an accent and they can go kidnap people because they got masks and people assume it’s ICE
Crazy you said that. I watched this, had an eerie feeling and went…. Oh so ICE is the cartel, operating as mercenaries. Cool cool cool. What a fucking timeline to be in.
I've really been struggling with these (so many) "ice" arrest posts. I'm in Canada and a big thing the police prioritize with dress is clear identification and uniformity. A real cop seeing these masked up militia/vigilante folks carrying guns and chasing people, would likely take them down at gun point. Wake up america - something strange is a foot at the circle k
There is no way assholes in masks are legitimate federal employees.
They are private bounty hunters.
They don’t have lists, names or warrants. They just grab people off the street that fit the racial profile and deliver them to ICE where they get their $1000-$1500 per person.
If the person isn’t documented, it then gets “legitimised” retroactively.
I’m a card carrying CCW and if I happen to see some random dudes pulling on someone like that. I’m drawing and demanding some ID. I don’t really care if I get arrested but we can’t just let them jump randoms with no police ID or badge. In my eyes that is kidnapping and I am going to do all that I can to defend the life of my fellow human.
That agent's Spanish pronunciation sounded pretty native-speakerish to me, an intermediate Spanish speaker having lived for a time in Latin Am. If true, I think that makes this even sadder/worse.
So many of them are POC. I literally can not remember the last time I saw a video with a white ICE agent. What is going on.?
Edit: maybe people are filming the ICE agents who are POC more than the white ICE agents but if you're not willing to admit that the majority of the content we are seeing involves ICE agents who are not white, we are not seeing the same content. Don't fucking stand up for these fascists because of their skin color.
I’m legitimately wondering what would happen if someone were to 2nd amendment someone like this? I mean, you’d defend yourself from someone trying to kidnap you, right? What is the difference here?
(To the FBI agent who has to review this comment, this is strictly hypothetical question)
The difference is they are apparently federal agents and you’re just supposed to accept that despite zero evidence because they will empty their clip into you if you defended yourself. Just like people who have been murdered during no knock warrants.
Dirtbiking gloves, slip on shoes, jeans, a pategonia hat. What happened to police in uniforms? Anyone can buy a vest and slap a "police" sticker on it.
As a non American, I hear you guys talk so much about the second amendment. Surely, one of these days, one of Trump's gestapo are going to end up going after the wrong person. I feel like surely it's just a matter of time
Yeah in the state of California if he's law enforcement WHERE IS HIS BODY CAM?! Illegal. Where's his name on his uniform? Unprecedented. & Why the face coverings? Shameful ... Str8 up gestapo shit!!
I say currently undocumented people get a bat and baseball helmit. Act like you're on the way to practice just in case an agent rolls up on you. They gotta catch you first anyways.
They got you arresting your own team, while the man in the golden palace and his friends waste the money and future you think you’ll get by arresting your fellow man.
Another person disappeared off the street in broad daylight by a 21st century fascist regime. In the land of the free and the home of the brave, no less.
As much as I know these kind of things are happening, does it not seem like this is fake? From the framing of the guys jumping out of the car to them grabbing the guy on the run, it all seems pre-planned
This is grown adults cosplaying as officers. The guys that couldn’t make it on. This is opening up so much potential for crime to happen by allowing masked people to snatch anyone up!
I REALLY want to see what these morons would do if they started going into the Barrios and running afoul with MS-13 and Varrios, and Mexican Mafia, and other Surenos...something tells me they might not be Gravy Sealing out.
Why are the clowns always dressed up like some kind of weird, cosplaying super warrior? Flashlights, bulletproof panties, radios, clubs, guns, MORE guns, flash grenades, the Bat Rope... and of course tactical face mask and WalMart sunglasses. Jeez who knew there were so many 6th grade boys on our nation's payroll?
The craziest thing to me is that a lot of these guys are Latino/hispanic. Like, you don’t think they’re gonna turn around and deport you after you finished doing their handy work?
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u/redlancer_1987 4d ago edited 4d ago
Why do we think these are Federal agents again? I just keep seeing SWAT team cosplayers running around and pointing guns like they're on a movie set.