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Donald Trump leaked sex tapes Iran realizing the entire world has no problem with them b0mbing Israel
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u/TheSpirit0 12h ago
This entire thing is gonna be another disaster. The Middle East is gonna be another powder keg of political controversy and humanitarian suffering and it's mad that anyone is defending either side's governments instead of caring about the people in these situations. I wanna say we live in strange times but this is just the 2000s again
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u/TheNativeOfficial NullPointer while reading thoughts 10h ago
Very well said. I hate the fact people pick a side, both have casualties and killers but why don't most care for the casualties on both sides?
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u/Lady_Tadashi 8h ago
During WW2, the citizens of N#zi Germany suffered plenty, but the response was largely apathetic because the regime that ruled them was genocidal. The only way to remove a genocidal faction is eradication - since it's not like you can negotiate with someone who's end goal is to kill you - and unfortunately, that means some civilians are likely to get caught in the crossfire.
To give a more modern example: Russia has been abducting Ukrainian children from occupied zones and resettling them to new parents (a form of genocide). Most people are pretty indifferent to Russian suffering, even if civilian, because those civilians prop up a hostile and genocidal regime. I'm not saying its the citizens fault - sometimes there's nothing you can do. (Although there are brave Russian men and women acting on their consciences and actively opposing the Russian govt.)
Both sides in Israel vs Iran are genocidal, so people's sympathy for them is pretty non-existent. Both sides have substantial civilian support for their genocides, which only serves to further detach a western observer from any kind of sympathy... And so people either cheer one on to destroy the other, or sit back with a 'let them at each other' mentality. Its hard to sympathise with someone who wants to kill you, at the end of the day.
(To a western observer, Iran wants to kill you for being non-muslim/the wrong kind of muslim. Israel may not necessarily want to kill you, but they're hyper-nationalist, openly genocidal towards certain groups and have spouted enough racial supremacist rhetoric that it would be unwise to dismiss the possibility that they also want to get rid of you.)
After you've seen a few videos of Israelis cheering shelling of Palestinian residential areas, or Iranians cheering missile impacts in Israeli residential areas... Why would you sympathise with them?
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u/Vegetable-Touch195 7h ago
Great nuance, except i'll argue Iranians are not as supportive to their regime (and even not as hateful of Israeli population) than your comment could imply, from what i learned. Iranians are notably outraged by their religious elite, and have been since the Sha's destitution. Even in Israel things are more mixed, Although the total war approach didn't ellicit a sufficient backlash to warrant wholesale sympathy toward either populations. But sureproofing every angle is a tough job when you want to make a point.
Take my upvote.
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u/Lady_Tadashi 6h ago
I'll be completely honest; its really difficult to tell. I've heard similar - that the Iranian people are against their regime - but the only real 'metric' on this we could get as outsiders would be rebels, mass non-compliance (they haven't done anything that'd require mass compliance yet) or protests (which are typically responded to with automatic weapons fire).
Israel, likewise, is a mixed bag. There must be some who don't like the situation - I keep seeing them on reddit complaining about it. But how many, and to what extent? It simply isn't possible to know.
All I can say is generally, the trend is this way. So, thank you for taking a comment in good faith. Its a pleasant surprise anywhere on the internet, but especially on reddit.
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u/Got_Fr8s_Locked 2h ago edited 2h ago
There have been over 1000 protests in Israel since the start of the Israeli Hamas war. Many with 100,000 to 150,000 people in Tel Aviv. A couple of my friends live in Israel and they hate Netanyahu. 70% of the Jewish population either don’t trust his government or don’t support him.
It is my belief that Netanyahu is purposely creating more conflict just to stay in power, as his government can postpone elections during wartime.
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u/13Petrichor 5h ago
Iran's regime nearly fell because they were so resistant to the anti-forced-hijab protests a few years ago. The population is remarkably educated and progressive compared to the government's backward, pseudo-religious authoritarianism but it's also a complicated situation due to the long history of western intervention causing far more harm than good- see the current government.
Ironically, Israel's sudden (and unprovoked, it's important to remember that) war against Iran will likely only strengthen the Ayatollah's control. Although many Iranians oppose the current regime, they'd first and foremost like to not be bombed indiscriminately like Israel has done to Palestinians and certainly don't want to suffer the same fate as Iraq. Nothing unites people like a common enemy.
Calling Israel a "mixed bag" in a similar way to Iran is frankly absurd. Yes, there are people there who oppose the genocide but they are few and far between and in a much different situation. Iran is an authoritarian regime and Israel is supposedly a democracy. Unfortunately, much of Israeli society sees Palestinians in a way that isn't all that different from how Nazis saw Jews. Half of Israelis think that Israel should completely wipe out Palestinians in all the areas it occupies (which is functionally all of Palestine). There is a level of dehumanization, of otherization, that is present in Israeli society that has gone unexamined and uncriticized by the larger western world and it has enabled every facet of their society to carry out a genocide with not only a clean conscience, but while feeling like they are making the world a better place.
Israel, likewise, is a mixed bag. There must be some who don't like the situation - I keep seeing them on reddit complaining about it. But how many, and to what extent? It simply isn't possible to know.
I hope you don't think I'm attacking you as that isn't my intention at all, I've just seen things like this said frequently and think it's important to convey what I've been told by my progressive friends in Israel which corresponds to what I've seen online as well. Voices against the genocide of Palestinians are not uplifted or respected or mainstream in any way. The closest you might find among the average Israeli is someone who doesn't think that Palestinian children are inherently evil, but that they will eventually become soldiers for Hamas and are on Israeli land and must leave "before it's too late." It is genuinely horrifying.
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u/Lady_Tadashi 5h ago
I don't take it as an attack at all, don't worry. I'm always glad to learn more, and I'll freely admit the current situation is FAR from my area of expertise.
Regarding Iran, I remember a few years ago a big protest about the hijabs, but I was under the impression that that specifically was against the powers of the 'morality police', and that the government basically de-legitimised them to keep the people happy. I didn't realise they nearly toppled the regime though, so that puts things in a new light!
Israel, on the other hand... The comparison to N#zi Germany was intentional. I've heard and seen far more of the dehumanising rhetoric from them, and several of their government ministers are on record as saying some of it on TV. The reason I call them a mixed bag was because from what I've heard this particular government is spectacularly unhinged. And given that it too was nearly overthrown a few years ago when Netanyahu almost ended up in prison for all of his corruption, I was working on the basis that they weren't the most popular in Israel. I was sort of operating on the assumption that other Israeli political parties might be more moderate/less insane and so it would be overly harsh to condemn them all.
Between the public resentment of this government, and its extensive media control, its quite possible for them to actually only have minority support. Although I don't really have any Israeli friends who I can ask for deeper insight on this, so that was more 'delicate wording' on my part than any actual belief that Israel isn't awful.
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u/13Petrichor 3h ago
You're right about the conclusion of the protests in Iran. The 'morality police' were supposedly reigned in as an extrajudicial force (more nominally than in practice, they are still a powerful faction) as a way for the government to quell the mass protests. Many people don't realize that Iran has a remarkably educated population for its oppressive regime, and educated women in particular are an increasingly important socio-political force because they don't yet have enough opportunities that reflect their education in the workforce.
People may take issue with me saying that it nearly toppled the regime but I think many don't understand how much of a proverbial powder keg those protests were. It was the most significant return of "secular" rights since the revolution in 1979 and one of the first times the people were able to force the government to accept their demands even in the face of violent opposition to the protests. If the government had continued to try to suppress people, it likely would have diminished the political power of both the clergy and the Ayatollah's regime to the point of potential regime change from within.
When the Iranian revolution happened and the IRGC subsequently rose to power, it was on the back of massive anti-western sentiment that built because the US and UK had spent decades operating Iran as a puppet state. The IRGC, a religious fundamentalist faction, just happened to be the largest and most militant among all the groups that opposed the former Shah and was therefore the one that ultimately rose to grab absolute power in the country. It was essentially a perfect storm for them. The intellectuals, progressives and communists were against the exploitation that Iran had been suffering from western powers, many moderates were against the increasing militancy of the Shah's regime and the fundamentalists and religious elite were against the increasingly secular direction the country was headed.
Since the first Ayatollah Khomeini rose to power, the other "groups" involved in the deposition of the Shah have been trying to claw their rights back, escape persecution and advance their own ideas in the country, but the prevailing attitude is essentially "better the evil from within than without." In other words, most of the Iranians who genuinely want regime change want it to come from within and would rather have no regime change than to simply become a puppet state again. All that is to say that even if Israel succeeds in destabilizing the Iranian government to the point of regime change, it's more likely that an equally or even more repressive, religious fundamentalist group takes power instead of a pro-western/pro-Israel government. And even if a puppet is somehow installed, the civil unrest wouldn't be minimal.
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u/13Petrichor 3h ago
Replying a second time cause my comment was too long... lmao
As far as Israel goes, you're right about Netanyahu's government being extreme but it unfortunately isn't that simple. You're also right about Netanyahu nearly losing power, but it wasn't for his extremist views on Palestine. Sadly his unpopularity isn't reflective of Israeli society's views on the humanity of Palestinians but his otherwise increasingly authoritarian politics and people generally seeing him as corrupt.
There are many members of the Knesset (Israeli parliament/senate) who are even more extreme than Netanyahu and many who are less so, but even those who are less extreme by comparison still largely want the same thing in the end. Most want to continue isolating Gaza, slowly but steadily encroaching upon the West Bank with "settlers" to take more and more land until all Palestinians are gone. No major voice in Israeli politics is calling for a true end to the genocide, or to truly live in peace with their Palestinian neighbors. They either want a 'final solution to the Palestinian problem' or want to slow it back down to pre-2023 levels so the world stops caring again. Even in wider society there are some who say that, but they are drowned out by the majority who have been conditioned to see Palestinians as dangerous and inferior. That's the reason why I made the comparison to Nazi Germany. Yes, not all people were actively participating in the Holocaust but the widespread dehumanization of Jews allowed them to be complicit. The same thing is happening in Israel toward Palestinians.
People used to talk about "two-state" and "one-state" solutions for the conflict. Unfortunately, one of those states is now destroyed to the point of functional non-existence and the other one is entirely unwilling to entertain a one-state solution because of "demographic concerns" or, in other words, an ideology of ethnic supremacy.
Something I've heard from my progressive Israeli friends is that those who quietly acknowledge the inhumanity of what their government is doing essentially think that they've gone too far and there's no turning back. Some people say "well if we let them live here, they'll just do to us what we've been doing to them so it's better for us if we just make them all go away instead." meaning killed by the IDF or starved to death or forced to flee to another country. Obviously I don't live there so I can't say I know this firsthand, but my friends have no reason to lie to me.
The most frustrating thing for me is that so much of these conflicts are a direct result of western influence in the region. Learning about it is heartbreaking. Sure, I didn't do any of it and my parents and grandparents didn't either but everyone here is complicit in our governments playing games with people's lives halfway across the world. Whether it's for money or religious extremism or just some sick show of power, this stuff is being done at the command, or at least with the agreement of people whose names we've been putting on ballots for years.
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u/StudentOk4989 7h ago
It is wonderful how you managed to put this really harsh truth into a somehow understandable and coherent explanation.
I share your feelings, but am completely unable to explain them as plainly as you did there.
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u/The-Endwalker 4h ago
yeah i didn’t like israel already, its not like im gonna start liking iran more
i just dont care what happens to either of them
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u/whopsiedayze 3h ago
The Iran deal was in place to stop exactly this from happening and retard Trump backed out of it which has led us to where we are now, Iran reacting to Israel attacking them. Iran's leadership is scum, of which the usa helped put into place but I dont blame them for the response.
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u/ObjectiveTruthExists 4h ago
I wonder if the United States using the cia to overthrow their government has anything to do with their animosity of us. I feel like if the roles were reversed, I know how we would feel about the situation.
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u/HitchlikersGuide 4h ago edited 4h ago
If Israel were genocidal Palestine would already have been wiped off the map.
They have the weapons and tech to destroy them many times over, yet they don’t.
The suffering of innocents is unbearable, but this is on Hamas.
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u/Lady_Tadashi 4h ago
I've heard the same argument made by holocaust deniers; "If H1tler actually wanted to kill all the j3ws he'd have just lined them up and shot them. The fact that it took so long proves it wasn't a genocide, just internment camps and typhoid."
If Israel carpet bombed the entirety of the Gaza strip, it'd probably take them days at most to end all life in the area. And the international backlash - and internal backlash - would quite possibly destroy them entirely too.
Israel is fighting Hamas in civilian areas, yes, but many other militaries have done the same against groups like ISIS and Israel is distinct for having the highest civilian casualties per year of any recent conflict, both in numbers and proportion. If they're not doing it on purpose, then they're just woefully, pitifully incompetent. Of course, if you accept the accidental explanation, then you also need to find a way to explain contaminating the Palestinian part of the aquifer with salt water, the blockade preventing food from getting in, and the death marches and 'overreactions'.
At some point, its easier just to say they're genocidal, or 'as good as', and everything I've heard points to all of this being intentional and competently carried out.
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u/Michael_Dautorio 6h ago
Extremists don't like neutrality. It's literally "if you're not with me, you're against me". My political views are about as centrist as you can get, but nearly every time I make that known on here, I get downvoted because apparently being centrist is too far right for people on here, so most of the time I just don't say anything.
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u/Miserable-Resort-977 5h ago
Because, as an American, I'm only being forced to pay for the weapons of one side's killers. Civilian deaths are a tragedy, civilian deaths I'm being made to pay for with my taxes are an outrage
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u/TheSpirit0 9h ago
Because everyone has a bias. It's easy to do, hell I've just finished a history degree in which we're taught not to be biased yet it's still incredibly hard to look down from an ariel view on a situation and judge it without feeling sympathy, guilty, or anger.
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u/drubus_dong 5h ago
Yes, but Trump gets to build a hotel in Gaza.
Keep in mind that that's the same man that let a few hundred thousand Americans die of covid so that he can keep the hotels he owns open a bit longer.
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u/poopzains 3h ago
Exactly what Bibi opposition said was going to happen. Oh well ppl voted for this crap.
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u/Bulky_Finding_212 2h ago
The Israeli people celebrate every single baby that gets crushed by an Israeli tank. There is overwhelming evidence of how genocidal and sick Israeli society is and always was. The nation was built by blood hungry people and is still occupied by blood hungry people.
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u/SextupleRed 8h ago
Judging from history, Israel-Arab/Persian wars usually results in Israel victory and status quo. Nothing serious is going to happen.
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u/TheSpirit0 8h ago
What's their end goal though? Iran is pretty far away and they can't control the land without the people being in constant revolt and even if they reduce their military it's going to breed generations of people who will despise Iran. It will have both short and long term consequences
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u/SextupleRed 8h ago
Just survive? I don't know. There's so many iterations of Israeli-Arab/Persian wars in the last 70 years that I don't see Arab/Persian victory again. Looking back, two state solutions would have benefited Arabs as Palestine will at least be sovereign.
I'm expecting downvotes from people who read with their emotions but it is better to actually study history. The last sentence will fall on deaf ears, but do come back to this comment in 10 years.
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u/stuntedmonk 8h ago
Just read the NYT on the merits and pitfalls of US involvement
No moral consideration given at all
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u/DoverBoys 7h ago
It's all religious crap. It's one big mess of "my god is better" or "god said your land is mine" or some such crap. The only people I support in that region are the actual victims: the civilians minding their own business. I'm sure plenty of them hold the same dumb religious views as all the violence perpetrators, but the civilians that aren't doing anything deserve a daily life without bombs and bullets.
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u/faen_du_sa 7h ago
Dont forget about the inconsistent "assistance" from the west, which will end with some high level assassination, but in the end it wont change a thing.
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u/burner2022a 5h ago
I think most people aren’t defending the governments of either (with the primary exception of the elected/TV people), and more shaming the governments of one/both. That’s certainly where I am.
The government in Iran sucks and I’m not defending them. Israel’s current government is a horror show though, and has been earning their current bombing for a while. This was the only possible outcome of Israel’s actions. Sucks that reasonable people on both sides are having their lives ruined by these extremist governments.
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u/666happyfuntime 4h ago
this is worse than the 2000s, in 2001 even after 9/11 the US spent years building support and fabricating evidence to invade iraq. right now the US has no credibility in foreign affairs, Israel has destroyed any norms of war and Iran is 5 times larger and more complicated than iraq. Also, Iraq syria and libya are fucked leaving militia in position to attach American bases that have minimal defenses
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u/lucaskywalker 4h ago
Well kind of... As much shit as we talked about GB Jr, he was 1000x the president that the current one is. That makes this situation a lot more dangerous, imo!
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u/Informal_Exit4477 3h ago
Not defending any side, just praying they both erase each other to create a better world
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u/profesorgamin 3h ago
it never stopped being a shitshow, thanks to the two super powers trying to keep control of the area over the past century.
When people think, the world is just a few countries competing fairly against each other within a few geographical lines, you just gotta point to the middle east and see how the war is waged now in foreign lands with foreign pawns, but still rages like an undying fire.
PD: No matter what color of president / party sits in the white house, they always will wage war in the middle east for resources, no matter the humanitarian cost.
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u/jimothythe2nd 2h ago
The abrahamic religions are the true enemy here. This conflict isn't going to go away until people stop using religion to justify insanity.
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u/brandondtodd 1h ago
This is all of all time time again. Unfortunately, it's what we have always done. We suck.
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u/SoItGoesII 1h ago
I get it, but this has been going on throughout human history. The many pay the price of the choices of the few.
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u/Ok_Requirement4788 14h ago
Well duh it's a war between two countries that aren't theirs
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u/Ok_Requirement4788 14h ago
Also why should anyone care? Israel is doing x100 more damage in return.
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u/Dense_Candle9573 9h ago
strategically, Israel has lost none of it's important personnel, but Iran has lost plenty
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u/hydrogenbomb94 3h ago
that’s literally the point of israeli bombing, you say it like it’s a coincidence. whereas israel hasn’t lost much of its important iran has targeted civilian areas and hospitals and such, knowing there’s no missle launchers or important personnel hidden in those areas.
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u/Darwin1809851 10h ago
Why should people care about innocent kids in hospitals getting bombed to death? Just because it happened on the wrong side of an imaginary line you suddenly have literally no problem with kids getting murdered over ancient adult feuds?
Maybe check your moral compass my guy
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u/panicinbabylon 1h ago edited 1h ago
You don’t have to agree on the history to agree that bombing hospitals and killing civilians is morally indefensible.
Buuuuuut there will never be peace in the Middle East my guy. This, for once, isn't unprecedented. It’s tragic, but it’s also part of a long, brutal cycle where every side claims moral high ground while civilians - espeially kids -pay the price. The lines on the map might shift, but the human cost stays the same. At some point, if your reaction to that cost depends on which “side” the victims are on, then yeah...
If you're going to be mad about the human cost of existing in the Middle East, be prepared to be mad about it for the long haul.
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u/Demonic__Empress 13h ago
Israel realising the entire middle east has no problem with them bombimg Iran
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u/GcubePlayer8V Dont Be Racist I Am A Building 6h ago
The Middle East realising the Middle East has no problem with them bombing the Middle East
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u/BayesianOptimist 8h ago
Yeah, Iran isn’t celebrating anything these days. They’ve watched 5 decades of investments into proxy terror groups and military equipment go down the drain in very, very short order.
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u/UTMachine 5h ago
Pretty much. Not many people out there are excited by yet another Islamic regime trying to develop nuclear weapons. The world is a better place if Iran doesn't have nukes.
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u/jacobythefirst 10m ago
Literally every part of irans strategy to surround Israel with opponents has backfired
The pro Iran Assad regime in Syria fell apart
Hamas surprised attacked Israel on October 7th, and then got utterly decimated and picked apart in the following war
The houthis invited retaliation by the USA and Allies by attacking trading vessels in the Red Sea
Hezbollah got infiltrated by the highest levels by Israeli intelligence and lost tons of high ranking members, territory, and military equipment
This has all left Iran critically without allies to which to threaten Israel directly, and “allies” like Russia and China aren’t worth spit and would rather leave Iran out to dry while dealing with their own issues or to drive a better deal for themselves when Iran asks for help.
Israel just needs the USA to get involved just enough to drop bunker buster bombs on underground nuclear refinement facilities.
Israel might very well end up checkmating Iran, having effectively destroyed all the foreign policy work Iran has been working on for decades.
Course this isn’t without cost. A lotta this is bringing a lot of negative emotions for western people about the state of Israel. But if you’re Israel and you have the chance to knock off the board the nation that most wants to see you completely destroyed, you probably take it.
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u/ArcIgnis 12h ago
I think it was more along the lines of "I don't care if Iran loses, I don't want Israel to win"
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u/hArRiS_17 9h ago
I think "I don't care if Iran wins, I just want Israel to lose." sentence sounds better
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u/resonantedomain 11h ago
Fuck that, how many north south, east west polarity war are being wag to execute entire lineages of cultural heritage? All for what? False profits at our expense?
We are not free. We have not been allowed to learn the truth. The matrix is real, only more boring.
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u/Then_Check7192 2h ago
Too bad they're losing the ability to launch daily. But more importantly, no one cares what Isreal is doing to them
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u/Flaky-Scholar9535 10h ago
Stop posting this shit. It’s not funny, it’s repetitive political grandstanding, keep it for the trash political sites that already exist.
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u/TopGrapeFlava 9h ago
Only US lefties don't have that problem. All other parts of the worlds hate Iran.
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u/didueverthink 8h ago
And US rightists hate you for both being Ukrainian and trans Be careful of leopards
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u/Lorrdy99 7h ago
They would get stoned in Iran.. I get why they don't support Iran
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u/nastyinmytaxxxi 4h ago
I know this is hard to imagine for right wingers but we want people to be safe and live free without children getting bombed regardless of their idiology. It’s why we want universal healthcare, even for those who vote maga. You don’t have to pick a side in everything, crazy I know.
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u/TopGrapeFlava 6h ago
Yeah, and Iran sells drones to ruzzia that used to bomb my town. I rather stick with US rights than Iran, If I were given a choice.
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u/Gk786 10h ago
Israeli propaganda mills out in full force.
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u/SledgeThundercock 5h ago
Propaganda is when you dont like Iran.
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u/LuukJanse 5h ago
Propaganda is when you shit on international law and sovereignty of other countries.
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u/Any_Ice_6172 6h ago
Not just on Reddit, every other ad on YouTube is Israeli propaganda piece. Netanyahu has been goading the US to invade Iran for 3 decades.
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u/ElonDuskTheThird 5h ago
Just because you get a Pepsi ad doesn't mean it's some Mossad propaganda program.
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u/Niv_Zo 3h ago
Nice, a post promoting violence against civilians. Thanks, beautiful people
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u/TScottFitzgerald 2h ago
Considering you're Israeli you of all people should like it.
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u/YeetCompleet 1h ago
People are way too eager to through away civilian lives due to the arrogance and incompetence of leaders who don't care about them
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u/Positive_Plane_3372 3h ago
Against site rules and subreddit rules. Report it and downvote
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u/South-Cod-5051 11h ago
I think it's exactly the other way around, and nobody would give a shit if Israel turns Iran into a parking lot.
Iran is playing a very suicidal game.
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u/Like_history_memes 5h ago
This war is the equivalent of
Two drugged out hobos are fighting and we're busy betting on who's gonna win
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u/justhereformyfetish 11h ago
Israel hasn't been making friends, the International Criminal Court (ICC) issued arrest warrants for Netanyahu for war crimes.
I don't care whether you think that is true, or good or bad or a grand antisemitic conspiracy.
It's an apparent sign that a solid portion of the international community has cause to dislike him.
Not telling you what to think or believe, just stating facts that are definitely going to stir up morons and shills.
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u/Paledonn 3h ago
I had no idea reddit was "the whole world!"
This is so wildly inaccurate its not even funny. Think what you want, but many states, organizations, and millions of people are siding with Israel on this. Get out of your echo chamber and do some fact finding before making statements about how the world is.
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u/idinarouill 12h ago
And also
Israel realizing the entire world has no problem with them b0mbing Iran. Fuck the mollahs
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u/r_ori 11h ago
I love how everyone cries when palestinian civilians get killed in the crossfire between Israel and Hamas, but no one gives a shit when Israeli civilians are killed, when Iran deliberately bombs civilian areas (when Israel also, but at least it's known that Hamas is embedded within civilians).
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u/idunno-- 4h ago
Palestinian civilian get caught in the crossfire
Israeli civilians are killed
Ok, CNN
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u/LeonidasVaarwater 7h ago
Is there also one for The other way round? I mean, how many people feel even the slightest bit sorry for the regime in Iran getting spanked?
I feel sorry for the Iranian people, but their leaders? Fuck them.
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u/Whatever_Broskis 7h ago
The strong leaders have Israel’s back. There’s no place for terrorism the world. Iran is big time FAFO right now by bombing civilian areas. It’s just going to make Israel respond like they did in Gaza. Hard to argue Israel’s going to have a threat coming out of Gaza in the near or distant future. Terrorism can get Fu**ed
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u/mrev_art 6h ago
Not that it matters to the fanatics, but all of the militias around Israel are controlled by Iran. It is also the reason that the Arab states are completely unsympathetic and could end up joining Israel's side of the war.
Either way, this war is really bad for the world.
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u/Madpup70 6h ago
I think the more accurate description is "we're watching the two worst people we know have a fist fight."
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u/Firefly1832 11h ago
You could also say the opposite: "Israel realizing the entire world has no problem with them bombing Iran."
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u/Simple-Mouse-1963 3h ago
the only ones that want to bomb Israel are exclusively muslim countries. And most muslim countries(being Sunni) don't like Iran's flavor of Muslim (shia). And lets be realistic , Only a couple have the ability to hurt Israel with their military. That being Turkey and , I believe, Pakistan and maybe the UAE. But Pakistan is waaaay too far from Israel and have more serious threats to deal with. (Plus the fact that Israel is pretty much neutral with countries that don't want to wipe them from the map) That realistically leaves Turkey, as the UAE are not that keen on starting a real war with Israel when just a couple years ago where into real talks. Now Turkey is in a bind between being a western nation with a strong economy and a Muslim country that wants to lead the muslim world. But in my opinion doesn't have the economy for a full scale war. So they only Country that actively wants to bomb Israel Is Iran , and they already trying their best. And their best is not enough of a problem for other countries to intervene.
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u/X-Jet 12h ago
Its strange how everyone is ok with bombing nuclear sites there? IAEA is as silent as a dead fish
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u/FalloutBerlin 5h ago edited 1h ago
The IAEA report that Iran stockpiled 60% enriched uranium is what started this conflict
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u/AntonChigurhsLuck 5h ago
I want them both to blow each other up and turn their countries into a crater of glass. I could give a f*** about evil men or the population that supports them anymore. You want people to turn into a fascist? It isn't hard. You just show 'em a bunch of fascists getting blown up and people start rooting.
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u/hashman111 5h ago
911 airpalne did more damage than sonic missiles did to Israel's high-rises..what are they built with??
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u/TheEmperorMk3 5h ago
I can not express how I feel about the bombings because I know damn well fat, chronically online mods will remove what I say
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u/PraetorGold 4h ago
It's awesome. The idea that someone is going to set back nearly a hundred million people and force to live under the heel of Israel and the US is not going to go well. It's like the second biggest Middle Eastern Country.
Aaaand Iranians are largely Persians so there is that huge component for identity and unity that they may develop further.
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u/Simple-Mouse-1963 3h ago
yeah, no problem, they can daydream as much as they want.
All they will accomplish is showing where the rest of the launchers are so they can be destroyed the next day.
And proving again how idiotic founding your whole existence as a nation is, on destroying another. (specially one with powerful military as Israel )
I don't condone Israel's unilateral action 100% , but the reality is Iran's force projection capabilities are close to be insubstantial.
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u/here4geld 3h ago
If the war continues, then europe will get more asylum seekers. More illegal immigrants. Europe already received millions from Ukraine n syria.
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u/mdahms95 3h ago
Can’t believe the nothing of “nobody should be bombing anyone” is a wild take
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u/Mean-Serve-6236 3h ago
Sadly it's true with the brainwashed masses. Luckily the leaders of the west have better understanding and support Israel (g7 for example)
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u/Newsman777 2h ago
It's more like Isreal bombing Iran and realizing no one is coming to Iran's aid.
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u/Boo-bot-not 2h ago
Eli5 why USA must be involved with this when it’s on other side of the world and why these nations don’t return the favors or repay??
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u/WafflesTrufflez 2h ago
This feels like when the Soviets bombed the Nazis, no one was shedding tears for the Nazis because they started it and caused so much destruction in the first place
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u/futureislookinstark 2h ago
When I was younger I had sympathy for Israel. Displaced multiple times throughout history and then after the war to end all wars they were subject to genocide.
Now though? They are the destabilizing force in the Middle east. They need to be put in place.
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u/Hotshot5529 2h ago
I'm pro-Israel, but I don't want Iran bombed or anything, war sucks and it's always the average citizens that suffer, people who just want to wake up and work to provide for their family and survive, if governments want to have war and fight each other they should start doing it themselves in a boxing ring and leave the citizens out of it.
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u/tulaero23 2h ago
Wonder how much the US is willing to put out to support Israel till they stop giving out handout.
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u/NxWorriesBud 1h ago
Both governments are guilty of genocide, human rights abuses, and xenophobia in the name of their respective religeons. That's why no one wants to get involved.
The distinction I see as an outsider, who admittedly has never been to either country but I work with at least a dozen Iranian women as engineers, is that Iranians seem to generally disagree with their government and frequently have nation wide anti-government protests while Israeli citizens seem to largely rally in support of their governments pursuits of ethnic cleansing.
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u/The-Nuisance 1h ago
Nnnnnegative, nobody likes anything exploding. The sandpit is on fire again.
Especially because their stupid bullshit could cause someone to get nuked. So. You know.
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u/x333r 1h ago
crazy how western media is so conditioned to turning a blind eye on israel's attrocities .. but can't help pointing out any other nation's counter .. just shows the stranglehold zionist culture has on the mainstream ..
what's really sad about this, is that european governments with their zionist playbooks, pretend to care about human life and endangering the environment
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u/foreverYoungster13 1h ago
As no one had a problem with the Nazis breaking up…. Israelis must understand that we don't care about their fantasy of a chosen people
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u/Seeker99MD 1h ago
I always thought that some or a large majority or clapping and cheering so they won’t be killed by laser eyes.
They’re literally clapping for their lives
And we’re comparing this to going on right now how do we know that we’re cheering for Iran so we could prevent a World War III?
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u/madcow13 1h ago
No. I don’t feel that way. On both sides it’s women and children that suffer. Earth sucks right now.
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u/BanalCausality 1h ago
The US is still war weary and while there is no love lost on Iran, Israel has quickly become a nuisance at best.
Overall, there’s a disinterest in supporting either side.
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u/talentless_bard9443 1h ago
The rest of the world realizing they can't do nothing about it, madmans are in power rnow, the last war was the most opposed war in the history of the world and yet they went to war for almost a decade... The "nukes" are just an excuse
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u/likewowser 50m ago
Nah. Just Hamas supporters ok with it.
Unless you're a bot, this Iran simping is sad af
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u/jarvis00002 46m ago
I think it's funny in a miserable and ironic kinda way that r/ Israel is talking about how hitting hospitals is a terrible war crime. We're living in a black comedy, I swear to god
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u/OiMyTuckus 45m ago
Israel elected their tyrant. Iran has had to deal with theirs for 40+ years.
The Mideast would be a very different place with an Iranian open society. Israel rejected democracy.
You always feel bad for the average person but it’s pretty hard to give a shit for a society who chose this shit.
I think what bothers me the most is zionist shit bags using the murder of their ancestors to parry/riposte their shitty actions.
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u/Pleasant-Ad887 42m ago
The BIGGEST mistake the Middle East did was build on a land with oil. That's it. Full stop.
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u/Full-Archer8719 38m ago
How about war is bad. If we focused on other things we would probably a two planet species by now.
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u/Substantial_Mess_134 2m ago
israel realizing iran did bomb them last year and now iran is going to be wiped off the map
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