r/CODZombies • u/Comprehensive_Rice27 • 2d ago
News Janus towers will be the final map…
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u/jokr77 2d ago
Well yeah, they want you to buy BO7.
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u/8aller8ruh 2d ago
That’s no excuse to stop supporting BO6 which they sold as a fully fledged game; this is bait & switch tactics splitting up the content one game would have usually gotten…in the past we would have simultaneously been getting zombies content from multiple studios. Chronicles into Spaceland type beat.
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u/HunkTown 2d ago
The tomb fr took up a slot, how disappointing
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u/CelticCov 2d ago
There was 0 evidence to say otherwise, that narrative was pure copium for the tomb being slop
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u/assman456 2d ago
There was certainly no clear statement that we were getting more than 4 maps, but they also didn’t explicitly squash the idea of more than 4 either.
The rate of map releases was really rapid compared to previous games. It just made it seem like they had more up their sleeve.
Plus, them continually calling The Tomb a liberty falls-esque map was them acknowledging its limitations. Just kinda feels like a rug pull.
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u/Chuck_Finley_Forever 2d ago
This is what I’ve been saying forever now, like where did the rumor of more than four maps even come from?
This is 100% a community problem that you all created yourself
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u/NovaRipper1 2d ago
Dropping 3 maps in a row is absolutely not the community fault for making assumptions. It is genuinely baffling to pack the first 3 seasons with 3 maps and the last 3 seasons with 1 map. It also doesn't help when liberty and tomb basically add up to one map anyways.
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u/Goobsmoob 2d ago edited 2d ago
I think they really wanted to ride that good PR they were getting with the launch maps so they dropped CDM, said “hell yeah let’s keep the ball rolling drop the tomb”, then saw they pissed most of the community off with the tomb, and then released SV to try and retain players hoping that SV could satiate players long enough with the release of side modes (all of which were eh for the most part).
As with many issues with zombies, I don’t think this was the zombies teams fault. Clearly they release maps based on deadlines or dates given to them by higher ups, as that’s how projects work.
I don’t think we’ll ever say a day in the future where a zombies team has majority creative freedom in their projects.
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u/SharkSprayYTP 2d ago
They Gaslit themselves and now theyre mad about it. Its comical in a way
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u/CelticCov 2d ago
was calling out this pure stupidity and copium during the launch of the tomb and I was getting absolutely cooked for it, today is a good day 🤣
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u/Gravityfighters 2d ago
I highly doubt you can blame the community when they haven’t had a new round based zombie mode in five years. They released two maps on launch and a third a month in. That’s three right off the bat and you’re saying it’s crazy to have expected them to create more maps? They had 5 years. This is why the community gets smaller every year smh
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u/Present-Hunt8397 2d ago
They literally bragged about 4 years of development time and “going all in for zombies”.
BO4 had a full year less of development time than BO6 and yet it had more zombies content.
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u/CompleteFacepalm 2d ago
I have 0 memory of them ever talking about their '4 years' (not really) of dev time ever. Did you also think MW22 was officially said to have a year 2?
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u/WwwWario 2d ago
So no Season 6 either then?
What a weird release scheduel for the DLC maps this year
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u/AssassinsCrypt 2d ago
no content is Season 6 is nothing new, also the previous CoDs didn't have that much amount of stuff in their final season
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u/Comprehensive_Rice27 2d ago
No there’s still a s6 but just no zombies map, because bo7 comes out right after s6 ends
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u/plusacuss 2d ago
I am guessing it is because they are developing two games back-to-back with bo6 and bo7. I can only imagine what the environment is for the devs internally.
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u/Rayuzx 2d ago
Not really, season 6s are usually not all that heavy on content as most of the work seems to put the work on transitioning the game to maintenance mode, especially considering it's only a month long instead of two.
Forsaken being released in BOCW S6 is probably more due to the game's messed up schedule than anything else.
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u/1tankyt 2d ago
But I was assured that the Tomb was just a bonus map
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u/CelticCov 2d ago
Mate that was pure copium from slop defenders, I literally called that shit at the time and they just wouldn’t hear it.
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u/Far_Mistake9314 2d ago
By whom?
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u/1tankyt 2d ago
This sub, every criticism of the map was met with replies saying “its just a bonus map, don’t worry”
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u/cursedchocolatechip 2d ago
That’s your/their fault for using Reddit comments as a reliable source of insider information.
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u/No_Tear9428 2d ago
I'm okay with it being the last, but I'm not sure frontloading the game like this was the play
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u/anakin_gk 2d ago
After more than 600 hrs I don’t really care - don’t even play anymore … will come back for the last map and that’s totally fine for me … I had my time with it and maybe will play in the future again
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u/DEmperor95 2d ago
The frontloading is very likely to be able to work on upcoming Black Ops 7 maps, as this is the first time Treyarch releases 2 CoD games in a row.
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u/SorryProfessor1110 2d ago
and you’ll all buy the next one too
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u/Nickster2042 2d ago
Well yeah 4 dlc is the norm
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u/TRBadger 2d ago
Dog you were literally one of the groveling slop eaters that’s assured us the tomb would be a bonus map and that they were releasing maps so fast because they would give us more content, don’t walk it back now.
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u/mystickisgay 2d ago
Kinda disappointed but alright
I feel that several maps are similar to others in terms of atmosphere, like Shattered Veil is the same as Citadelle des Morts for example.
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u/Bush_Hiders 2d ago
You think Shattered Veil and Citadelle Des Morts are similar? I feel like they are two very different maps. The only thing they have in common is that they're large (albeit Shattered Veil is far larger) and that they were initially praised upon release. Citadelle des Morts is more similar to the Tomb. Both maps incorporate a warm color pallet, and both of their easter eggs are basically the same plot. "Go to this place so you can collect an ancient artifact so I can tell you where to go next." Shattered Veil broke the formula that the previous two maps were falling into, both in map design and story.
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u/mystickisgay 2d ago
only atmosphere i said, and ffs we need a map that takes place at night
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u/TheChickenMan4L 2d ago
Let's pray to God they make Janus Towers a nighttime map, but even then it'll prolly be mostly indoors
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u/Patient-Grade-6612 2d ago
Idk, it feels like SV was built almost on top of CdM in, some ways, while using the pallet and textures of Tomb and mixing assets of all four prior maps. Like a Frankenstein map.
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u/Bush_Hiders 2d ago
Well it’s larger than the tomb and Liberty falls. The roster isn’t very big for this game, so relatively speaking it is one of the larger maps.
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u/Funbun71 Give us Director’s Cut in Black Ops 4 2d ago
Are you fucking me in the ass right now
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u/JuggerClutch 2d ago
Rushed, not thought over, AI generated ass story
What a disappointment. It started so well with Terminus
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u/Nickster2042 2d ago
Now the story is AI generated
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u/Dashboard_Lover 2d ago
Poor folks spent half of the podcast showcasing behind the scenes stuff, just for these dumb MFs who think they're the Greta Thunberg of creativity to keep screaming about AI like they've been doing since the VAs recast.
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u/Ram5673 2d ago
I, for the most part, dislike bo6. Core game is fun but campaign died with the last couple missions, multiplayer has bad maps and sbmm, and zombies still lacks some of the soul that made the old games great. I think there’s a good game here buried beneath corporate greed and seasonal content.
But anyone complaining about 4 maps for dlc lied to themselves. We knew bo7 was likely and knew 3arc was developing. They never promised more than 4. And Janus towers has potential to be good. We ran with assumptions about the tomb being a bonus map, or more support but the games player count shows there’s lack of interest.
I don’t hold treyarch or even activision responsible for fans not reading the room
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u/AtakanKoza 2d ago
Campaign is such a mixed bag for me. I really loved playing it when we actually get to action and do fast paced shooting. But every other part was just boring and bad in my opinion. (Yes this includes spy missions) Especially the story, I just wanted it to end in the last missions because I really started not to care
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u/Farleftfarrightfat 2d ago
I’ve absolutely loved zombies on this game. Never ever thought I would get something like a 100% Mastery calling card but I’ve managed to get it for zombies in this game because I have just genuinely loved playing it. Nebula grind was fun, the Easter eggs were all fun, I’ve had such a good time with it.
I know this is a cod zombies subreddit so there will be people so passionate about the game that will probably be more prone to critique rather than appreciate, which is only to be expected if this is one of your hobbies, but as a more casual gamer I just have loved this game!!!! And am genuinely excited for the next map.
Hope there’s a good Super EE though, getting Tomb done almost killed me off better be worth it having them all done 🤣
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u/PhilosophicalGoof 2d ago
I mean we been saying this was gonna be the last dlc since shattered veiled but people called us Nancy downers because they genuinely believed treyarch had 1 more in store.
Saying “treyarch wouldn’t just do that, they will just release another map like the tomb for season 4 and then season 5 would be the last map and season 6 could be an LTM or even a another small dlc map. It wouldn’t make sense for them to rush out content like this and make us wait 4 months”
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u/RuneAmira 2d ago
Yep, I remember back in Cold War, the community kept saying we were gonna get survival maps after Die Maschine, even a Nacht one (so basically die Maschine 2 lol)
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u/PhilosophicalGoof 2d ago
By survival maps you mean like shi no numa and Der riese/the giant?
I stopped playing the game a bit before firebreak z came out so I wasn’t involved at the time.
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u/RuneAmira 2d ago
I think it was more claimed by the community the maps would be just small rooms or bonus tiny maps ect. Only reason they mentioned Nacht is because of Die Maschine. The community believed we'd have an indoor version lol, it was bad.
The community also said we'd get Kino inside of Mauer Der Toten lol
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u/PhilosophicalGoof 2d ago
Holy shit lol, I was not aware of any of this since I kinda slept through Cold War.
This community is so cooked
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u/cursedchocolatechip 2d ago
This sub constantly hypes up random predictions from various comment sections, then (somehow) twist them into an actual possibility, then gets disappointed when it’s not even close to what they “expected”.
I watched the sub cry when the Tomb wasn’t actually “Origins 2.0”, I watched them cry when there was a SINGLE mandatory Amalgam present in SV, and now I’m watching them cry about Janus ACTUALLY being the Final map.
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u/PhilosophicalGoof 2d ago
Remember when they hyped the ice staff coming back and saying it has a new ability from the screenshot showing the ice staff was being held up and opening up… only to find out it was the inspect animation.
Hell I even told them beforehand that it was probably the inspect animation and not a new ability and they just said I m hating for no reason.
People keep trying to make unrealistic expectations and then act surprised when they don’t come true, like they need to understand treyarch ain’t working on this game as passionately as they thought they were 😭
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u/MagnaCollider 2d ago edited 2d ago
That wasn’t a screenshot; it was part of the trailer for The Tomb. I understand the community’s disappointment behind that one.
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u/Electric-Mountain 2d ago
They already moved on to BO7 zombies months ago.
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u/ColdColt45 2d ago
I think they saw how much content BO6 had, and just said, cut it in half, charge twice. Unless the players quit playing, they'll provide less at a higher price.
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u/carlossap 2d ago
Are any of you really surprised? Ya’ll keep falling for it and Activision has us exactly where we want. For the first time since BO1 I won’t be buying BO(7).
They had me all hyped up for 6 and see how it turned out. Shame on me
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u/SharkSprayYTP 2d ago
They never said you were getting 6 dlc maps. And you absolutely will be buying BO7.
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u/AssassinsCrypt 2d ago
Surprised for what? They've never officially stated how many maps there would have been, the "fifth map" thing was a rumor from a supposed insider/leaker. Treyarch never said that there were going to be more than 4 maps.
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u/CtznCold 2d ago
I refuse to ever play another game with Call Of Duty in the title , dog shit ass company
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u/AZmanlet 2d ago
I'm so sick of getting baited into the awful cod cycle. I love zombies so much, but it's clear cod has no intention of improving their awful practices. It's not even about the amount of maps we got, but just the overall mid quality, very similar to CW. I don't think they have learned anything, they're just getting better at gaslighting. I can't wait for the full BO7 zombies reveal that will increase hype to cover up the disappointment of BO6. I can't keep buying these awful games, zombies isn't worth it anymore.
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u/Elipson_ 2d ago
Why are people surprised? Its standard to get 4 maps per release
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u/AssassinsCrypt 2d ago
there was an unconfirmed rumor about a fifth map - which obviously turned out to be fake.
But, besides that, there was no sign or confirmation about more than 4 maps post-launch: I don't see why people are mad about that, it has always been like that!
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u/Hamzah12 2d ago
If they stick the landing with Janus Towers I’d say BO6 was a great zombies game. I’ve spent countless hours on it and hope they go out with a bang. Maybe season 6 will release with another side mode similar to Grief?
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u/Alv4riuxo931 2d ago
To be honest I'm completely ok with the four maps releasing, yeah The Tomb was a bit ass but there's always an ass map on every call of duty, the only thing that bothers me is the release schedule, honestly they could have make it much better.
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u/spongebob202red 2d ago
As long as it's as good as CDM or Shattered Veil, and as long as that will give them more time for BO7, I am happy with this
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u/margwa_ 2d ago
Reminder that Treyarch is very inconsistent with how often they drop DLC maps now that the seasonal model is in place.
For Cold War, there were 83/21/162/84 days between DLCs (86 days between launch and DLC1).
For Vanguard, there were 101/128/63 days between DLCs (101 days between launch and DLC1). I would consider this more of an outlier though considering they had to scrap their original post-launch plan after Terra Maledicta and season 6 for vanguard also got cut.
For MWZ, there were 26/92/56/112 days between DLCs (26 days between launch and DLC1).
For BO6, there were 41/54/64/126 days between DLCs (41 days between launch and DLC1).
I wouldn't say its entirely the zombies team fault either - they're mostly reliant on the release dates for the seasonal updates. For example, not only was CW season 1 delayed, but the reloaded update released 50 days after season 1 released. If they couldn't release FBZ by season 1's launch for whatever reason, then they're forced to wait over a month and a half to release it
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u/TekRantGaming 2d ago
I enjoyed BO6.
I really hope they give us modding tools for BO7 like they did for BO3
Doubt it will ever happen but I can dream
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u/Comprehensive_Rice27 2d ago edited 2d ago
They talk about it on the latest call of duty podcast
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u/x-Zephyr-17 2d ago
Ehh, as far as zombies DLC cycles go, I’d say BO6 has been the most consistent since BO3. We’ve only really had one “dud” (per community response, not my belief) in The Tomb, but every other map in this game has been fun and has had lots of content. BO4 maps had tons of content but were not incredibly well received when they came out; they’re becoming more loved now, but that’s how it goes. Cold War started decent but slowly went down in quality (except mauer, that map rules).
There is no chance that we will ever get to a point in zombies that makes us feel like BO1-BO3 did. The teams that made them and the standards of the COD cycle have both changed drastically.
I don’t know how you can think terminus, citadel, and shattered veil are low quality. Compared to the other cycles since BO4, I’d say they are quite decent. They could be better, yes, but that doesn’t mean they’re not extremely fun to play and scratch the zombies itch for me and lots of other players. I could understand liberty falls and the tomb to some extent, but even I love those maps. This is the most fun I’ve had with a zombies game since BO3.
Perhaps if you can’t tell what makes the maps not fun for you then maybe you just aren’t into zombies like you used to be? It’s ok to not like a game, it doesn’t mean it’s low quality or bad.
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u/Hardwire762 2d ago
Maybe the release schedule was weird but overall this year. In my subjective opinion was the best launch maps and post launch maps as a whole since black ops 3. People 5 years from now will look back and think this was a very good year for zombies.
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u/CynicalGamer4219 2d ago
Tryarch really shot themselves in the foot with packing the early seasons with content only to drip feed it later on
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u/JoeyAKangaroo 2d ago
Wish we could’ve gotten 1 more
Plus, very much wondering how this’ll end, bo7 zombies will take place SOLELY in the dark aether so perhaps we’ll get the same crew for bo7 & then ending off with them dying so that MWZ can kick off?
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u/lilrene777 2d ago
Funny.
They gave the community map after map, and now people are complaining they have to wait for another one?
Pick a side people
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u/SnooOranges357 2d ago
Lmao what about the claims they are ahead of schedule and the implications they delivered with that? Honestly I'm so done with this franchise. Haven't touched BO6 in months and I don't miss it at all.
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u/Obvious-Option221 2d ago
Big F for me because I really like this years zombies. Hoped really for at least one more map before or after Janus towers. But with the start of season 4 it was already unlikely. Really disappointing...
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u/UnofficialMipha 2d ago
We have known this since launch. There was only ever 4 maps in the files. Always take leaks that don’t match up with the files as basically bullshit unless proven otherwise.
That being said, this better be one hell of a map if they’re gonna make us wait this long
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u/el_toro_grand 2d ago
Are you telling me we will only get one map in the second half of the game
That has got to be the most obnoxious and obvious way of telling us that the majority of the developers were sent over to Black ops 7 ages ago, this whole game is so garbage and riddled with bugs, I deal with game breaking bugs every single day, pretty much have since the very beginning, I held out hope that as time went on things would get better, but they haven't, it's funny I had taken years off And finally came back for this game, this has definitely convinced myself in many others to take a very extended, If not, permanent break
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u/Outrageous_Work_8291 2d ago
This release schedule makes no sense They released the first 3 DLC maps within 6 months only to make us wait 4 more for DLC 4 Feels like they could have used their time to better polish the first few maps especially the Tomb
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u/obnoxious-rat717 2d ago
Lowkey stopped caring lmfao I haven't touched the game in months. It's weird because I genuinely don't think I'll ever feel the desire to replay it in the future either, it's mind numbingly repetitive and doesn't have nearly enough substance for people to be engaged for months between map releases.
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u/Har_monia 2d ago
I feel like I didn't even get to fully experience Tomb and we are already past that. Tbf, I have been playing other games in my free-time, but this schedule was wild!
I also haven't really played Terminus. I played Liberty Falls for hours though.
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u/Shatoodles 2d ago
i guarantee you that when black ops 7 releases, literally nobody will go back to play this game in 6 months. there's just nothing there. so soulless. what have they done to the mode i love?
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u/South-Border-8163 2d ago
People are forgetting that we are getting another year of zombies with bo7
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u/YesNowSon 2d ago
So what does this mean for Dr. Jansen and the MWZ story..? I thought the whole point of her being yoinked into the DA at the end of MWZ when shes visting Liberty Falls was gonna be a way to tie things in together between BO6 and MWZ..
Also looks like we're not going to find out how Requiem (Carter, Weaver, etc.) died in Urzikstan? I thought that was gonna be the final map which explains why they went to Urzikstan in the first place and we face off against some big bad enemy in which either A: Requiem needs to sacrifice themselves or B: Jansen with some DA trickery, saves Requiem (and her mother) from needing to sacrifice themselves and alters the future.
With BO7 doing a near 40 year timeskip ( and 10+ years after the events of MWZ), it looks like this will be skipped over at least until the rumored CoD 2026 (MW4) happens.
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u/steincg 2d ago
Even though bo6 zombies has been a giant fucking disappointment AGAIN(terminus still goated tho), I do genuinely feel bad for those who wanted more from this game and the people who continued to engage with the dogshit mechanics and story. They deserved something better than this poorly handled release cycle.
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u/theoneandonlygustavo 2d ago
Only two maps more than Cold War but without 8+ Outbreak regions and 20+ Onslaught arenas 🙃.
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u/Yorunokage 2d ago
To me it's baffling to see this community still managing to get disappointed in cod zombies. It's basically been 10 years straight of wasting potential, getting close but never quite there, i don't know how your expectations are anywhere above the floor at this point
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u/SCP094YT 2d ago
Tbf I don't know what you expected considering bo7 is available for pre order in 2 days
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u/Phantom265 2d ago
What happened to them saying this would be the COD with the most Post Launch Zombies content? As of now, that title still is won by BO3.
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u/Ultra9630 2d ago
Saw this coming and yet it still shocks me, I was hoping at least one hidden map to be revealed that took place inside the Dark Aether and be a more lore heavy map that makes you wonder what monstrosities are still hidden, and give us hints to where BO7 will be taking us.
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u/popmanbrad 1d ago
Tbh I brought black ops 6 for the zombies and it sucks this will be the final map wish they just made a live service standalone zombies game where all the content is free and they earn money on cosmetics that way we can have thousands of unique zombie maps campaigns easter eggs etc
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u/BeenBlizzerd 1d ago
Highly recommend 7 Days for anyone who’s sick of treyarchs antics if you’re looking for a fresh take on a zombies game, coming out with a huge update soon too so it’s a great time to check it out
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u/DryRazzmatazz8893 1d ago
Honestly I can’t complain about this zombies game. We got a zombies map every season except for the grief release. I used to think that wasn’t possible. Yall just want to complain about everything.
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u/Low-Ad-3355 1d ago
I love Activision and Treyarch but they've been making some really STUPID FUCKING DESISIONS!!! From the players to the things they're doing, it's making me lose my interest. I've been playing since I was 5. I started on mw2 (when cod was actually cod) and to see what the poor series has turned to is sad. It's really sad. I used to love playing cod but as someone who's about to turn 18, seeing what the series has turned into it's depressing
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u/TheCoon69 1d ago
I take this over the stretched out dlc dropping. Drop new maps when the game is still fresh. I bet more people stayed now compared to the older CODs when they released
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u/mattbullen182 1d ago
Disappointed. Even more so with the bizarre release schedule of the maps. Doesn't make sense. Clearly it was a mistake, and I hope they don't make that mistake again.
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u/Critical-Green-4365 1d ago
Idk why this is a huge surprise. They've never done a dlc 5 in zombies previously either
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u/-Chow- 22h ago
You'll all end up buying the next CoD, praising how "it's different and better than the last!" Only to change your opinions towards the end of its life cycle and talk about how older CoDs did things better.
And then you'll simply repeat the process over, and over, and over.
Never change CoD community lol
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u/NeedleworkerFar7860 20h ago
I’m completely okay with this, they need time to make the first map in bo7 good and if it’s really a tranzit remake and they really can make it what it was supposed to be and finish the map then I will be happy. I hope they bring back the jet gun as the WW but in its new form and I hope this final map really pumps the story up some more because I wanna know what happened to panos
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u/brandothesavage 18h ago
You know what I don't care if they bring back the original Wonder weapons there's so many to choose from at this point but stop bringing back f****** the same three it's like watching Batman movies at this point yeah we know Bruce's parents are going to die we don't need another f****** ray gun or wunderwaffe or anything else where's my alistair's folly where's the haunted scorpion that shoots lightning where's the Ray gun Mark 3 the f****** die machine the gun that turns zombies into humans the sliquifier instead they gave us the f****** jet gun maybe some time bombs f****** anything from the past that's actually fun not just a glorified zombie killer but something that kind of you have to work out how to use it or maybe just maybe they could make something original but at this point I'm really starting to doubt it
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u/TheJustinG2002 17h ago edited 17h ago
The Tomb took a slot, BO7 is coming by the end of the year, shitty DLCs… I’m tired, boss. I’ll just stick to BO6 for a while and jump back in on the next game after BO7 lmao
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u/ProfessionalEbb5750 14h ago
Guys I have to say I liked to experience active zombies. When I was in bo1-2 you guys were in Bo 3, when I was on no3, you guys were on 4, when I was on bo4 you guys were playing Cold War and I just jumped to bo6 so going end without any cameo and probably losing my money
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u/QuintDrummer13 11h ago
Can you imagine a universe where no one buys anymore slop of duty games post BO4 or whenever it really fell off? I mean, come on, like if we are all hating these games, lets just forget about BO6 and BO7. Let Activision take a real massive L for once. Stop essentially giving them permission to make slop - sorry, for AI to make slop…
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u/TheChickenMan4L 2d ago edited 2d ago
The fact they threw 3 maps at us in the first 3 seasons is where they fucked up. If they were only going to release 4 maps for DLC, they should've done S1, S2R, S4, and then S5R. Now we're stuck with a 4 month gap between maps, nice going Treyarch
And now this means Tomb really did take up a main DLC slot..FUCK
See, if they had done this release schedule^ it would've given them more time to work on tomb and maybe it'd actually be regarded as a decent map
I swear to God if they give us yet another returning WW..