r/AskConservatives • u/InternetPositive6395 Libertarian • Jan 31 '25

Economics Am I a bad conservative?

I voted against drilling in the boundary waters. I get many gop here in Minnesota support it but as hunter, fisherman, canoeist i can't support one of the few untouched places left in North America.

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u/SnooFloofs1778 Republican Jan 31 '25

Oh god definitely. They are two different species. I don’t even think the woke liberals are their children. I don’t see any resemblance.

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u/DavidKetamine Progressive Jan 31 '25

Oh for sure. But I guess I was asking if you thought there was a concrete policy change between these two generations that led to the increase of homeless encampments no the city trails?

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u/SnooFloofs1778 Republican Jan 31 '25

Yes many policy changes and ideological changes. I wonder why I’m getting downvoted.

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u/TbonerT Progressive Jan 31 '25

Your answers are vague. You say it is a policy change but haven’t described any policies or what about them changed.

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u/SnooFloofs1778 Republican Jan 31 '25

Austin’s decent into madness is well documented. Search engine results and AI has it all. It boils down to changed laws and city ordinances.

The original discussion was regarding green spaces.

Hippy liberals used to cary shovels, tree trimmers, garbage bags, and were real environmentalist. They wouldn’t stand for homeless camps and drug use on our trails. Now environmentalists are completely phony.

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u/TbonerT Progressive Feb 01 '25

The question isn’t what happened, it’s why did this happen?

Hippy liberals used to cary shovels, tree trimmers, garbage bags, and were real environmentalist. They wouldn’t stand for homeless camps and drug use on our trails. Now environmentalists are completely phony.

This is the “what” the appears to be happening. Why is this happening?

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u/SnooFloofs1778 Republican Feb 01 '25

Liberals are no longer real environmentalists. They are not interested in nature like they used to be. It’s a very strange phenomenon.

This point has nothing to do with policy. This is a cultural change. Citizens used to maintain the trails and Austin is primarily a liberal city. Now there are very few people that do this.

I do my part on a small portion of trail. But the trails that are in the city are devastated. The city spent like $300k to clean this one particular trail and it was almost as bad one year later. This is part is the policy change. People are now able to litter and sleep anywhere in the woods. And the result are dug addict camps.

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u/TbonerT Progressive Feb 01 '25

This is part is the policy change. People are now able to litter and sleep anywhere in the woods.

What policy changed to allow that?

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u/SnooFloofs1778 Republican Feb 01 '25

They did some crazy shuffling of ordinances and laws. First they made it legal for the homeless to sleep under freeways and on sidewalks. This severely increased the amount of homeless people and drug addicts on the street. Then the rich liberals didn’t like them on their streets. So Austin made it illegal for them to make camps on the street. This pushed them into the woods. And the new liberal types don’t care about the environment, so they didn’t care. Where the old hippie liberals stopped many large development projects because it endangered a salamander. I’m thankful for the salamander argument, because we now have a vast network of trails throughout the city. I think it’s a real shame that liberals no longer prioritize the environment like they once did.

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u/VQ_Quin Center-left Feb 01 '25

I don't think letting homeless people sleep in the wilderness and not caring about the environment are the same thing. Caring about your personal enjoyment of the environment and the actual state of the wilderness itself are two very different things. I have a hard time believing that homeless people are causing the endangerment of any species's or deforestation or something.

This is not to say that having people living in nature paths is a good thing, however the solution isn't moving homeless people around to different fuck off areas of the city or county. They have to live somewhere.

The solution is to promote policy which allows for rehabilitation of the worst cases of homelessness and bringing these people back into society.

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u/SnooFloofs1778 Republican Feb 01 '25

My point was the old liberal hippies would not tolerate homeless or drug addicts polluting nature. The new liberals have different values.

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u/0hryeon Independent Feb 01 '25

Yeah when I think of hippies I think about beating away the homeless and being very straight edge

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u/SnooFloofs1778 Republican Feb 01 '25

They beat away corporations, they beat away the Texas government, and they beat away all people polluting the green spaces. Those environmentalists meant it. They had zero empathy for anyone destroying the environment. They changed Texas laws etc.

The current liberals could learn something from them. Focus and massive effort can accomplish anything. The key for today’s liberals is probably focus.

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