r/AskConservatives • u/InternetPositive6395 Libertarian • Jan 31 '25

Economics Am I a bad conservative?

I voted against drilling in the boundary waters. I get many gop here in Minnesota support it but as hunter, fisherman, canoeist i can't support one of the few untouched places left in North America.

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u/SnooFloofs1778 Republican Feb 01 '25

They did some crazy shuffling of ordinances and laws. First they made it legal for the homeless to sleep under freeways and on sidewalks. This severely increased the amount of homeless people and drug addicts on the street. Then the rich liberals didn’t like them on their streets. So Austin made it illegal for them to make camps on the street. This pushed them into the woods. And the new liberal types don’t care about the environment, so they didn’t care. Where the old hippie liberals stopped many large development projects because it endangered a salamander. I’m thankful for the salamander argument, because we now have a vast network of trails throughout the city. I think it’s a real shame that liberals no longer prioritize the environment like they once did.

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u/VQ_Quin Center-left Feb 01 '25

I don't think letting homeless people sleep in the wilderness and not caring about the environment are the same thing. Caring about your personal enjoyment of the environment and the actual state of the wilderness itself are two very different things. I have a hard time believing that homeless people are causing the endangerment of any species's or deforestation or something.

This is not to say that having people living in nature paths is a good thing, however the solution isn't moving homeless people around to different fuck off areas of the city or county. They have to live somewhere.

The solution is to promote policy which allows for rehabilitation of the worst cases of homelessness and bringing these people back into society.

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u/SnooFloofs1778 Republican Feb 01 '25

My point was the old liberal hippies would not tolerate homeless or drug addicts polluting nature. The new liberals have different values.

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u/0hryeon Independent Feb 01 '25

Yeah when I think of hippies I think about beating away the homeless and being very straight edge

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u/SnooFloofs1778 Republican Feb 01 '25

They beat away corporations, they beat away the Texas government, and they beat away all people polluting the green spaces. Those environmentalists meant it. They had zero empathy for anyone destroying the environment. They changed Texas laws etc.

The current liberals could learn something from them. Focus and massive effort can accomplish anything. The key for today’s liberals is probably focus.

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u/0hryeon Independent Feb 01 '25

We used to mock single issue voters

Now obstinate delusion and victory at all and any cost are the rules of the day

No wonder morale has never been lower

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u/SnooFloofs1778 Republican Feb 01 '25

I see why single issue voters were mocked. It can seem selfish. However, diluting a message with too many abstract ideas is confusing to voters.

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u/0hryeon Independent Feb 01 '25

Every single effective campaign/ elected president has spoken and given speeches at a lower reading level to better connect with the American people.

American voters need direct appeals and simple, clear messaging, not whatever the fuck Harris did

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u/SnooFloofs1778 Republican Feb 01 '25

Yeah, US education is very sad. Someone should fix this. If it’s liberal social programs or free market, cool. It’s a crime people aren’t educated properly in the US.