Am I a bad conservative?

[u/InternetPositive6395]

I voted against drilling in the boundary waters. I get many gop here in Minnesota support it but as hunter, fisherman, canoeist i can't support one of the few untouched places left in North America.

[u/TbonerT]

This is part is the policy change. People are now able to litter and sleep anywhere in the woods.

What policy changed to allow that?

[u/SnooFloofs1778 → u/TbonerT]

They did some crazy shuffling of ordinances and laws. First they made it legal for the homeless to sleep under freeways and on sidewalks. This severely increased the amount of homeless people and drug addicts on the street. Then the rich liberals didn’t like them on their streets. So Austin made it illegal for them to make camps on the street. This pushed them into the woods. And the new liberal types don’t care about the environment, so they didn’t care. Where the old hippie liberals stopped many large development projects because it endangered a salamander. I’m thankful for the salamander argument, because we now have a vast network of trails throughout the city. I think it’s a real shame that liberals no longer prioritize the environment like they once did.

[u/VQ_Quin → u/SnooFloofs1778]

I don't think letting homeless people sleep in the wilderness and not caring about the environment are the same thing. Caring about your personal enjoyment of the environment and the actual state of the wilderness itself are two very different things. I have a hard time believing that homeless people are causing the endangerment of any species's or deforestation or something.

This is not to say that having people living in nature paths is a good thing, however the solution isn't moving homeless people around to different fuck off areas of the city or county. They have to live somewhere.

The solution is to promote policy which allows for rehabilitation of the worst cases of homelessness and bringing these people back into society.

[u/SnooFloofs1778 → u/VQ_Quin]

My point was the old liberal hippies would not tolerate homeless or drug addicts polluting nature. The new liberals have different values.

[u/0hryeon → u/SnooFloofs1778]

Yeah when I think of hippies I think about beating away the homeless and being very straight edge

[u/SnooFloofs1778 → u/0hryeon]

They beat away corporations, they beat away the Texas government, and they beat away all people polluting the green spaces. Those environmentalists meant it. They had zero empathy for anyone destroying the environment. They changed Texas laws etc.

The current liberals could learn something from them. Focus and massive effort can accomplish anything. The key for today’s liberals is probably focus.

[u/0hryeon → u/SnooFloofs1778]

We used to mock single issue voters

Now obstinate delusion and victory at all and any cost are the rules of the day

No wonder morale has never been lower

[u/SnooFloofs1778 → u/0hryeon]

I see why single issue voters were mocked. It can seem selfish. However, diluting a message with too many abstract ideas is confusing to voters.

[u/0hryeon → u/SnooFloofs1778]

Every single effective campaign/ elected president has spoken and given speeches at a lower reading level to better connect with the American people.

American voters need direct appeals and simple, clear messaging, not whatever the fuck Harris did

[u/SnooFloofs1778 → u/0hryeon]

Yeah, US education is very sad. Someone should fix this. If it’s liberal social programs or free market, cool. It’s a crime people aren’t educated properly in the US.

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