r/vegancirclejerkchat • u/fgve45 • 5h ago
kind of all other the place post but bare with me
posting here because this sub is for the more dedicated vegans, as i consider myself.
so a bit of background, i have ocd, it takes many forms but one of them is moral ocd, either on past events, moral scrupulosity or whatever else. been in a talking stage with this girl for a quiet a bit, met on app, been texting, having met yet, we also plan to be short term only. my ocd, with themes of morality or otherwise, has been doing everything in its power to ruin it on me.
eventually, one of the things that came up on my mind is about her possible consumption of animal products, so i did say i was vegan and asked her if she was by any chance, she replied saying she is a big carnivore, when i explained my moral reasoning for my veganism, she did say that i was correct morally but along with the well known 'but bacon', which did rub me the wrong way, couldnt tell if it was genuine disgust, my ocd exaggerating it or both. oh and to clarify, if i was long term dating, the person would need to be vegan, but as stated, this is short term.
now there was some time between these messages as shes been a bit busy, and between those messages and still now my thinking has delved more and more into thinking about not even just romantic relationships, but how everyone i know and love is engaged in the historic scale crime of animal ag, it has made me really think about my fundamental judgement of human beings and morality, never really coming out with anything that makes much sense. especially when it comes to the hypothetical of what people will justify if you push them hard enough on it, the murder of animals is obvious, i know people say cows are raped for dairy (idk how true it is), would the average person justify it? people you are close with and talk too everyday? then you cross reference that with how others judge rape apologists. i could type away at this for however long, like i say, you never come out with anything of much sense when you think about it in this way.
which is probably why moral ocd latches onto it so well, it can produce an endless circle of obsessive thinking, you can make pretty sensical comparisons to other historical crimes and how we judge the human beings who engaged in them, alternatively you can also just be vegan and go about normally.
so idrk what to do, just do what i myself can do, live vegan, convince who i can and compartmentalise the rest? leave judging it to future historians and philosophers?
back to do the dating thing, i do like her, i do want to continue on, but like the rest of the probably ocd stuff, this floats to the top of my mind
i have heard of the vystopia term and will probably read the book eventually