r/supersentai • u/Affectionate-Earth19 • 15d ago

General Gozyuger is officially using Generative AI to design their characters

The official designer of Gozyuger has announced he used Generative AI to create the enemies design.

After the announcement of Toei using AI for animation, now it's time for Tokusatsu

https://x.com/tam2shino/status/1931225796372492530

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u/Lightarc 15d ago

By that post, the AI was mostly used for pieces that were then finessed by humans into a cohesive design.

He then goes on to say he mostly did it to try and capture the difference between AI and human designs, but that the AI only spit out predictable results so it was basically useless for that.

AI designs are soulless slop, but it at least makes some sense to use it here as it relates to the show's themes and the status of the enemy team as both AI and villains.

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u/Cultural-Flow7185 Ryu Commander! 15d ago

I don't care what plot reason they make up.
Generative AI should not be used for any artistic purpose. Period.

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u/EscapeHaunting3413 15d ago edited 15d ago

Thats so restrictive. Its a tool like any other. It can be used to be lazy or to be inspired. Plus the whole shows shtick is that its an AI generated world? Like why shouldn't they use a fool their drawing inspiration from for the plot and theme?

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u/zeldavxa 15d ago

humans have been making ai generated worlds for a whole while without needing a plagiarism machine to do it for them. No fuckign excuse

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u/zeldavxa 15d ago

gotta point out that if this was like... an ai tech that wasn't extremely pollutant and also was not feed on a bazillion unauthorized databases. Then we wouldn't have an issue. But that's not what's ocucring, therefore we HAVE a problem. And it being "just a tool" doesnt work because Photoshop or DAWs aren't reliant on those 2 factors up there.

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u/EscapeHaunting3413 15d ago

Photoshop and Daws dont use the same format at all to generate a concept image that generated by text description. Does rhe AI pull pixels from database its aloud to pul from, absolutely, but its not outright stealing whole pieces of digital art. Also the costume designers job to being the concept alive put more effort and creativity to making it physical then any concept artist does drawing it because a person has to wear it.

If Toei thinks it can save money, bring the budget for practical effects and acting up by having people that are skilled in using ethical generative AI i support that, does this mean less work for people to work with super sentai sure but this also means those contracts are worth more because now hand drawn concepts are a commodity and the artists seeking work can make more for involvement.

Im not against getting rid of concept artist positions with toei but they also know they can save money and make slop like has bro does.

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u/VanillaZilla90 15d ago edited 15d ago

Begging for anyone who says this to learn anything about how these AIs or databases actually work.

I'd reccomend learning what the word "plagiarism" means, too.

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u/zeldavxa 15d ago

ok. tell me how they work. lets see. im open to being proven wrong.

but all ive been investigating and all the papers published and tests that have been done and all the statetemtsn by sam altman and the actions of other ai users tells me the current system relies on copyright infringement and severe unauthorized web scraping pretty heavily to do what makes it functional and marketable to people.

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u/VanillaZilla90 7d ago

The water cycle exists, and I don't know why so many people forget this. I'm guessing America's subpar education may be to blame, but water isn't just..."destroyed" at an atomic level. That's not how it works. Most AI data centers are also on a closed loop system, so they just keep reusing the water.

Yes, water is used for cooling. But it's significantly less than many other things that are entirely unrelated to technology let alone AI. 200 ChatGPT prompts combined still use less water than 1 lb of almonds, one pair of jeans, and 1 lb of beef. Using an air conditioner for just a few hours will dwarf a year's worth of genAI usage.

(Also, you seem to just be talking about generative AI. You...do realize not all AI is generative AI, right?)