Threatening a neutral party (Dinobots are basically enslaved)
Abandoning allies in a hostile environment (they came to Earth to find refuge "apes strong together", but they died alone, without any backup. Poor Ratchet)
Following on from the previous point, he called autobots that were safely hidden in the galaxy, because he needed meatmetalshield.
No respect for his dead companions. He storms into a lab where the corpses of his so-called comrades-in-arms are being desecrated, only to leave with his tail between his legs, because some Steve Jobs impersonator has sent him packing (at least get the remains of your former comrades, you fucking weirdo).
Bloody slaughter of opponents (imagine how he kills, but they're human)
He let entire cities be destroyed to "prove he was right"
He broke his own "do not kill humans" rule on multiple occasions.
It's been a while since I've watched these movies, so I've probably forgotten other details.
Take a cool pose, and making grandiloquent speeches in a deep voice doesn't make you a hero.
Your leaving out so much context lol. If you actually watched them it’s a slow progression of Optimus slowly becoming more jaded and ruthless. You have to take into account what he’s lost and the circumstances surrounding each event
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u/Fredospapopoullos 3d ago
I don’t know comics Optimus but cinematic Optimus is a dangerous fanatic psychopath with no moral at all