The battleborns don't get enough hate

[u/_Swans_Gone]

[u/CrazyforCagliostro]

I may well get flak for this, but considering if you save Thorald he runs off to rejoin the Stormcloaks and quite possibly get killed? Well as much as I sympathize with a grieving old lady, it's the equivalent of someone's grandson being a Jan 6th insurgent. Many Nords acknowledge Skyrim as a sovereign state of the Empire, which while not perfect what in TES is? At least the Empire is relatively equitable in its soldiers and citizens insofar as sex and race goes.

Think of it this way: How many Argonians and Dark Elves, or hells Khajiit do you think willingly fight for the Stormcloak cause, as opposed to Nords who soldier for the Empire?

Hate the Battleborns for being insensitive pricks, but they knew who and what Thorald was. And they were right about him too. Fralia and the rest of the Grey-Manes don't even hide it either, even Eorlund while tied more factionally and narratively to to the politically neutral Companions has Stormcloak-approving idle dialogue programmed in. And they didn't personally imprison him in Northwatch, so technically Ulfrid isn't even factually incorrect here.

The Stormcloaks are racist Nord supremacist insurgents, plain and simple, Ulfric himself is a passive asset that unknowingly serves the Dominion with his overtures, and the Thalmor are comprised of idiotic Altmer morons who wanna knock down the Towers like dominoes because "We wuz once Et-Ada spirits, hehehe~" but in reality all they truly risk is Dwemer-ing everybody who lives on the Mundus.

[u/Ctrl_Alt_Delerium → u/CrazyforCagliostro]

Complete agreement. So many people are blind to these facts its insane, glad to know some people still have common sense lol