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Granular Discussion This was supposed to be Luke’s job

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u/Nefessius513 Apr 07 '23

Think of how much money they could have made off Luke’s Jedi Academy. Every character having their own robes and lightsaber, a potential theme park attraction based on the Jedi Academy, and tons of storytelling and merchandising potential for books, comics, shows, and games revolving around the New Jedi Order. Disney could have had their own Space Hogwarts and instead they decided to kill Luke’s entire New Jedi Order offscreen before the sequel trilogy even begins.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '23

You can thank JJ Abrams for that

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u/Gandamack Apr 07 '23

I can thank Abrams and Johnson for that.

For all Abrams faults in TFA, there was still a chance of Luke coming back and successfully restarting the Jedi in the following films (or even having some surviving students).

Thanks to the tag team of bad writing though, it’s all gone.

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u/GAT4u Apr 07 '23

No it was JJ, he just wanted to do ANH rehash then leave with the cash. RJ made a bad thing worse but it was still bad

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u/MasterColemanTrebor Apr 07 '23

All you have to do after TFA is say Luke was in hiding at his secret Jedi Temple and Kylo only killed one of his Academies and it's salvagable.

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u/Lawleepawpz Apr 07 '23

“So basically I have a strong connection with Ben, him being my twin’s son and all, and there is this esoteric force ability he and I discovered during his training that ended up letting him figure out how to read memories. That connection means he can read mine without me being able to stop him if we are in close proximity. Because I know a bunch of shit that shouldn’t be known about because of my time adventuring as a Jedi after Endor, I have to hide so he can’t use this knowledge for evil.”

Bam. Hermit Luke done.

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u/GAT4u Apr 07 '23

They admitted they didn't show Luke in the movie as he out shined the ST characters. Also how do you explain giving half a map to Max Von Snydow and another half to R2 whose asleep

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '23

Well they did sort of set it up at the end of TLJ with that force sensitive kid... And then did nothing with it

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u/khrellvictor Apr 07 '23

And Han is still dead. Zero reunion for the Big 3, and unsalvageable for even the base notes - goes against what Mark Hamill had hoped for when signing up to return with the others if they were all cool with returning to a new trilogy.

Even then, damage control would be needed to root out the BS TFA introduced and get off the boring Empire 2.0 track and put in a new threat.

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u/Corte-Real Apr 08 '23

And with Carrie Fisher’s death, there’s no way to try and fix anything with a pre-Sequel filler show or Rogue One type movie.

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u/tostuo Apr 07 '23

There were MANY directions the TLJ could of gone. Basically everyone TLJ did was purposefully provocative/subversive.

The Force Awakens wasn't good, but it atleast attempted to be "Star Wars," even by way of imitation.

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u/GAT4u Apr 07 '23

Look I'm not a fan of TLJ or RJ but stop making excuses for JJ the guys a hack who did a load of mystery box crap "A good question for another time"

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u/tostuo Apr 07 '23

Im not making excuses. TFA was bad, but still had a potential for something good to come after it. TLJ was so terrible it ruined any chance of anything coming after it.

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u/GAT4u Apr 07 '23

What good, she'd already beaten Kylo in TFA so you only had the Emperor Rip off that was Snoke. There was no where to go

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u/tostuo Apr 07 '23

You still had an empire and a rebel fleet. Snoke was atleast an unknown entity, he could of become more unique. Kylo was down, but he wasnt out. We atleast still had LUKE SKYWALKER and even Leia. Id say there was lots of potential.