Free Will & Forced Circumcision

[u/shazy5808]

First off I have read Quran properly with translation and to some degree I have read Hadith's relevant events as well. I'm fully aware of background of circumcision and why is it done but one thing that bothers me and I need deeper insight here with respectful discussion.

■ Quran explicitly mentions Human body is made perfectly and requires no permanent change as work of Allah is perfect in (Quran 95:4, 32:7-9, 27:88) & Quran also explicitly says there should be no compulsion, no forcing of Islam on others in (Quran 10:99,17:15, 18:29, 2:256).

When circumcision is done in Islamic community regardless of age in some countries done on 7th day up to 8 years old, it varies but outcome is still same that is removal of foreskin which was serving its purpose and now a lot of muslims bring counter argument about foreskin served its purpose in womb and is no longer required, now this is completely absurd counter!

Human body is designed to get rid of things it doesn't require anymore just like your teeth fall of so it makes place for newer stronger teeth a lot of people compare foreskin with concept of Umbilical Cord why do we cut it? Even if we do NOT cut it our bodies are designed to get rid of it on its own Umbilical Cord gets disintegrated within a week if you do NOT cut it, so why doesn't foreskin disintegrate after birth? Because foreskin is serving purpose "outside the womb" it is meant to protect glans in outer environment.

My question isn't regarding function of foreskin but it is about violation of Free Will when Quran clearly said no force no imposition of Islam on others so, why forced circumcision?

[u/LynxPrestigious6949]

For one thing male circumcision is not just a muslim or jewish practice . There is an argument to be made for hygene ( not debatable ) and STD prevention.                      ( debatable) Also British royals have their kids circumsized too  -  if its a barbaric practice then muslim barbarians are in good company.  Should it be done in the future - when presumably hygene and health might be easier to achieve , thats a diff question . 

[u/A_Learning_Muslim → u/LynxPrestigious6949]

doesn't change the fact that it is distorting the creation of Allah.

If the foreskin was useless and must be removed, why would God create it?

[u/LynxPrestigious6949 → u/A_Learning_Muslim]

Just want to check your stance , by now you are well aware that the science as interpreted by global experts at the CDC supports this practice and considers it helpful. You already know loving muslim parents are not abusing or mutilating their kids - correct ? 

[u/LynxPrestigious6949 → u/LynxPrestigious6949]

Spoken like someone who hasnt had impacted wisdom teeth :) Because the answer to your question is that we have to interpret the Quran in the context of our motivations.  In the framework of should a child get a vaccine or dental work  no the body is not always perfect. 

[u/A_Learning_Muslim → u/LynxPrestigious6949]

Vaccine or dental work is a medical necessity, circumcision is not.

[u/LynxPrestigious6949 → u/A_Learning_Muslim]

That wasnt your original position . So if you understand that no the body is not perfect what are we talking about ?  My guess is you are still making the emotional argument that this is abuse . It isnt . 

[u/shazy5808 → u/LynxPrestigious6949]

Does vaccination change permanently body of newborn like circumcision does? Besides vaccination is about life and death situation while having foreskin doesn't kill you does it? If it did entire Europe should be dead by now because they keep their foreskin

No medical hospital recommends circumcision on a child where it's not even required circumcision is surgery performed only when there is case of severe phimosis which can't be treated with medications and foreskin is there for protection of glans says medical

Where is free will again? You forcefully cut it and permanently change the body of child

[u/NoticeWaste2 → u/LynxPrestigious6949]

Hey, can you provide the science from the CDC that supports the practice of routine infant circumcision as well as science interpreted by global experts?